276BHP & 465FT/LBS BMW 118D N47!!
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- čas přidán 12. 05. 2021
- After installing our GTB2260v turbo kit to this customers BMW 118D N47 we soon found the limitations of the stock fuel system. Eager for more power we worked with the customer to find the necessary upgrades to overcome these limitations!
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Figures:
GTB2260V w Stock Fuel System - 200bhp & 285Ft/Lbs
GTB2260V w Metering Valve - 209bhp & 325Ft/Lbs
GTB2260V w MV and Injectors - 253bhp & 410Ft/Lbs
GTB2260V w Injectors and Pump - 276bhp & 460Ft/Lbs
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this are the insane builds im here for
I love a bit of functional jank, props on the 6cylinder rail. Works and is cost effective 👍👍
I volunteer My 120D N47 for said future testing. Your welcome
So my 120D was written off, still want it? Engine is in pretty good nick XD. Off to get an A5
@@BroSisMCgamers what alloys did you have on it 👀 looking for some for mine!! Ahaha
Great job and work, I saw a german tuner do this on their 318D's recently and push about 270 with Hybrids and 600Nm Torque. Looking forward to the content to come.
What's his name?
At last someone explaining what can you do with n47 to get more power! Amazing, so many of these engines and so little information about going past stage 1 or 2....
Great job, and thanks for sharing your knowledge!
Very good work guys really inpressed keep up the great work 💯👍
Oh I need more of this!! So many N47’s out there not so expensive either to play with. We’re lucky to have a really nice N47D20C variant which supposedly doesn’t snap or it’s harder for it to happen and seeing this gives me great confidence tbh...
Is that true? I have N47D20C, was worried about chain but if they don't snap ill just keep ontop of maintenance
@@JayVXRif it was made after 1st March 2011, it shouldn't snap apparently. If it was serviced every 10 000 km, it should last.
Turbos are also different between 118d and 120d. Exhaust part is 4mm thinner on 118
the 6cyl fuel rail looks so funny :D
x3 2.0 tow car has had its chain done, sounds ready :D
I've just had my 318D mapped by a very small company in Norfolk just want to be sure the figures of 200bhp and 285lb ft are about right. Love the videos by the way.
Torque sounds low and power highish?
@@DarksideDevelopments thank you for your reply. What figures you normally get from a healthy low mileage N47? Just for comparison.
Its all turbo depending but 190's and well over 300 torque
@@DarksideDevelopments I dint think the torque would be that much different. I suppose the only way to find out is to get it on a rolling road.
My 116d made 204hp and 330 nm with you guys om standard turbo and injectors but did have egr delete and downpipe so very happy with my car. Very excited to see what I make after I get the turbo kit, injectors and pump
Sorry 330 ft lb torque
Have u done big turbp?
316d e91 on a cill map 167 hp and 420nm
Awesome job great use of parts bin of bmw and you know the mapping is a,aging when it resembles the side profile of the car itself 😂🤣
These chains do okay once big power? I ran my n47 at 230brake for a while, without issues after chain changed. But not sure how after going above this?
hey guys , im guessing since thats been done on that 1 series we can do the same thing on the E84 x1 18D if so even more of a reason to get down to yous
I've got a 2013 r58 mini cooper SD with this engine and while it's already had a driveway/laptop remap, I'd love to do some more to it. Main thing i'd be concerned about is the amount of heat generated in such a tiny engine bay. I suspect it would make any kind of open air intake a bit of a problem
Make a partition for the intake/custom air box and plumb in some tubing to the lower grilles 👍
I’m tempted as I have a paceman as a daily but same issue with bay
its not just the timeing chain on the N47 engine you need to look out for its the HP fuel pump as well! can go at any time whether you have full BMW service history or not.
Misfuel is biggest killer of any cars HPFP
such a shite design chain went on my gf mini cooper d 1.6 chains at back aswell big job went on motorway aswell so got rid. none serviceable chain with a shitty plastic tensioner.
would like to see ye do a video on swirl flap deletes need mine doing on a 2012 octy vrs but not sure about full motor removal etc
Make sure the software sorted!
My old 118d stage 1 manged to do 155mph crazy
i would absolutely lend my 123d for development XD
Yessssss
Nice work. Do you know how much power can stock m47tu (110 kw) take, they say version m47t2 out of e90 have much stronger internals. Thanks
We don't know for sure, these are still alive!
What do you think of the tuning potential of the new generation B47 engines? I believe some polish chap dropped one into an E30 and got it to 345hp
I think it's good, will give the Mini everything we can!
Absolutely mental from an n47
Wonder if the 1.6 diesel mini (also n47 but n47n) can be pushed this far 🤔
Maybe not this far!
No bc the 6 cil rail would go through the shocktower 🤣🤣
Nice torque, way over 600nm 👌. It need is quite weird that the clutch is slipping in higher RPM, did you manage to find the reason for that?
I'm wondering about the timing chain, do they not give any greef, in the long run, after that has been replaced?
I've been looking into these before I "fixed" a 1.6cr 6R polo with a mk6 gtd engine and transmission, but ditched the 1series due to the timing chain problems...
Clutch not changed yet I don't think!
We in states don’t get to enjoy the plethora of diesel options. Kinda sad don’t you think?
Enjoying your content. Thanks
You get the V8s, we get the diesels...
Maybe when you have realistically priced fuel you'll get all the diesels
@@DarksideDevelopments True, but I like to have fun going around corners 🤔
I've been meaning to do this but my 118D has 97k on it. I have a donor 330D after the chain snapped. Can you use the M57TU2 injectors in the N57. I have a fairly new turbo in it. Fancy filming customer brings in one working car and one wrecker donor leaves with two wrecks ;)
118d has Solenoid, 330d has Piezo. If the 330d injectors are perfect we will buy them!
Hi Dark side , I've once enquired thru you guys about a 335d engine swap & was wondering now if this is something you'd set up in my 60 plate 118d e82
Its a conversion that right now we don't have the capacity to carry out, sorry!
Should play with my friends 123d see what you can get out of them
Would you recommend getting timing chain done before any of this even if there is no chain rattle?
It's your choice, they are meant to be for life but not worth risking it if its high mileage and are having a lot of work done.
Hi, would you be able to install this setup on 2016 toyota avensis estate, same engine n47? Thanks
Not sure, would have to look
Do you have issues keeping the bottom end in one piece? we have been having a nightmare with our 123d and it's not even tuned.
That sounds like oiling ect
Would just replacing the top timing chain be alright with a remap. ?
Not sure!
how many KM/Miles has the car drove? My 318D E90 LCI has droven about 21 000 km. Is it to late to start tuning it? Will it kill the engine? And what can i do to keep the engine from getting destroyed from tuning it? My engine sometimes feel pretty tired and im worried it will kill the engine by starting to increase the power. Would really appreciate some replies and ideas.
This had about 100,000 miles. Get a new timing chain, clean the ports and let it have it!
Hi guys again
Can you tell what are the best upgrades i can do for my 118d? That will increase power
Also if you could sort them from simplest up that would be great
I was thinking doing a injector upgrade but dont know if thats a good place to start
Got a tuning guide here for you - www.darksidedevelopments.co.uk/Blog/tuning-the-bmw-x16d-x18d-n47-n47n-20-diesel-engine/
Drop us an email to sales@darksidedevelopments.co.uk if there's anything else you'd need to know
Hey guys, have you done anything with the 123d N47. I have heard there is a lot of potential in the engine but not seen any real facts about what can be done.
We had one, lots of issues but quick with a tune! - www.darksidedevelopments.co.uk/bmw-e81-123d-2-0-16v-cr-n47s/
Do somthing bmw 25 N47D20 218 HP
Man this is hella tempting to explore. I have a 2010 118d E87, stage 1 map with egr/dpf delete. Doing around 190 right now. Noticed on the website it says to contact regarding the turbo kit, can you get/make them still?
Yeah, should be able to. It's just to contact for a lead time on making them. If you drop us an email to sales@darksidedevelopments.co.uk with reg/vin and we can help you out through there
How does everyone get to mexico during lockdown🤣👍
So I have a f30 318d witch has the solenoid injectors, I have a set of piezo injectors from a f30 320d would I have to change the ecu? A guy in Belgium (SVRmotorsport) tunes the exact same car as mine and says it’s been fitted with 320d injectors but doesn’t mention the ecu? Any help on this would be very much appreciated tia
Drop us an email to sales@darksidedevelopments.co.uk and we'll be able to give you a list of everything you'd need to do depending on what power you want and supporting mods you have/need
Reckon you could do the same to R56 Cooper SD N47?
Yes
Are there more differences apart from the injectors to the 316d ? Because I’m just doing the timing chain and am planing some power mods
I can’t really find anything on that topic because no one is actually tuning a 316d
Please email us with your registration, our sales team will reply with all the parts you need to make some extra power
Looking to get more power out of my 318d , gonna get a turbo and what injectors would you reccommend ?
If you take a look at the spec on this car you should need the same!
On a 2006 320d m47 auto, do you know if the auto box is a weak point (if tuning the engine) as much as the Internet suggests?
Auto is strong!
Yes the auto gearbox on the m47s are really strong my have over 550.000km and still going really well
Hi after remap on my 118d 2008 egr and dpf off.I have 4560 and 4570 error when I make acceleration I cant find problem
Hi, please drop us an email - sales@darksidedevelopments.co.uk
I have the F20 118d (63 plate) would this kit work for mine? Or would it be different 😁
We might need to adapt the Downpipe, email us the VIN ;)
do you fellas do the timing chain? if so whats the rough price for it?
We don't get involved really
What kind of gains have you had with the performance camshaft on these ?
Depends on the supporting mods but normally 10 - 20bhp
And how much is this typical set up?? Is it possible on a N47 twin turbo???
Stock 123d makes 250-260 with deletes and tune.
I have a BMW e82 118d how much would it be for this build ? And amazing work yous are the best in the business in my opinion keep it up 😊
Drop us an email to sales@darksidedevelopments.co.uk for the cost
I have the same car and the same question? Please could you let me know how much this build is?
It would be helpful if you’d state approximate cost if someone wants to do it.
Email, it changes too often to say
Is the N47 on F32 still has chain problem?
Less so I believe
I would like to put a 320d turbo on my 318d e90 lci but the 320d turbo connector has 5 pins and mine has 4. How can I adapt the connections?
you need to swap the actuator
I have the exact same car, completely stock, how much would it cost in total to get it to this point?
Email us please!
I’m new to the whole car tuning scene. Is this also a re-map? Thanks.
Yes, it has one of our custom remaps
That fuel rail would drive me insane. Messing with my OCD! Couldn't you have pinched something from a later engine that would most likely be running more rail pressure as standard?
You need an extra inlet port
@@DarksideDevelopments Those newer rail which appears like stainless but its not really stainless weld really good. Did some of them for 2200Bar, no problems. Old rails which were cast thats other story.
What sort of power can be got out of the m47 120d ?? Is 300 easy to get to
please email with your reg. sales@darksidedevelopments.co.uk
Also. can we please get some more 20d content cute
same but injectors are better
I have 118d on n47 too, after installing turbo from f30 that produce in stock 184hp i cant get more power than about 200hp too. Yes the reason was in fuel, computer says that high pressure pump cant do enough pressure, BUT! the reason was in low pressure relay, in 118d low pressure pump gets only 8 volts in all rpm, i installed this relay from 520d and everything becomes more better!
The fuel pump controller was faulty on this but pump still won't deliver enough fuel.
@OnePT23 For the first all relays are similar, you can simply remap it with other software, but it was easily to me to put relay because used one was very cheap. I got normal 8-14 volts depend on rpm and of course full pressure that pump can do,. Old relay do only 8 volts always, because it is enough for 143hp.
turbo from f30 184 are plug and play or it need custum (i have a 118d n47)
@@mrmizou001 youll need to use your old actuator, the hardest thing is to reweld actuator traction to new position. Turbo is absolutely similar. ive done it all in my garage, its not very hard.
Victor, do you know the Part Number for the low pressure fuel pump controller? you said 520d, was it e60 or f10?
isnt the tubular manifold laggier?
Nope, better flow is never laggier
Can I install injectors from 120d to my 118d? And does it fit without reworking? I would around 230km... Intercooler already bought :) I'm still thinking about the turbo with the f10 184km...
No they are totally different!
Are there any injections from another engine that fit p & p? I heard that with the f10 530d they fit ... some version of the 530d is said to have solenoids
How much would this work cost start to finish? (Roughly)
6 or 7k?
That’s bloody great how much power you’re squeezing out of them but why would the customer tune a 118d instead of just getting say a 330d?
would be cheaper as well, and much greater potential
Weight
Well, could be annual tax in some countries, i have a 118d in Romania and i pay 30£/year, a 330d would cost me around 400£/year.
Insurance, tax, handling ect.
@@BVA5485 in finland diesel tax on my -00 525d e39 is 850euros a year +insurance ~700euros and diesel costs 1.4 euro a litre
So hos much is safe numbers on tuning a 118d with stock internals, just a remap and maybe dpf/egr delete?
We've seen 280bhp without any issues.
www.darksidedevelopments.co.uk/Blog/tuning-the-bmw-x16d-x18d-n47-n47n-20-diesel-engine/
@@DarksideDevelopments thank you! Much love from sweden!
Would adding the bigger injectors from a 120/320 and a remap add decent gains?
This has the GTB2260V, Upgraded Injectors and Pump then tuned to suit.
@@DarksideDevelopments what injectors and what pump was used on this install ???
how much power can a 18d make with the stock fuel system+lpg fuel system?
Depends how much LPG but I don't like it for anything other than low loads. If you can fit bigger injectors or pumps LPG is not required.
@@DarksideDevelopments So I can't use it as an easy upgrade without putting more stress onto the diesel pump and injectors?
If upgrades exist don't bother
Can you run upgraded hybrid turbo at stage 2 engine ECU without upgrading injectors? Worth?
Yeah, you can do. got a tuning blog here for you showing the different steps on tuning N47's - www.darksidedevelopments.co.uk/Blog/tuning-the-bmw-x16d-x18d-n47-n47n-20-diesel-engine/
What sort of money is the kit for the 320d e90 it's the 181hp model
Drop us an email with the VIN and we can quote on the correct parts for your model - sales@darksidedevelopments.co.uk
Is it possible to get the clearance or dimensions between the head and the outer part of the turbo or manifold (whichever is largest)? I like the look of this but in my car the engine is sideways...
What car? Email and we can send!
@@DarksideDevelopments Its a Mini 2.0 Cooper SD. From what I can gather its pretty much a 118d engine turned sideways.
If this kit won't fit we will make a kit!
@@DarksideDevelopments See this is why I like you guys. I'll give you a shout Monday.
What do you need to do to get so much power out of a n47? I’m asking because I’m interested in modding my n47 to such a crazy amount
Look at the spec ;)
Darkside Developments are there any problems with reliability? What about the transmission? Thanks
It gets abused and is still OK!
Darkside Developments nice thanks. Keep up the interesting and informative vids. Love your stuff
how much mate to put the bigger injectors and a remap in 118d. 65 plate.
Drop us an email to sales@darksidedevelopments.co.uk with reg/vin and we can have a look for you
so as i can see it from the website its nearly 5300 euro for parts a plus the price from the remap would you be able to tell us who much you cahrge for the remap please ?? i only priced the
turbo kit
cp4 fuel pump kit
injector upgrade kit
arp head stud kit
????
Drop an email to sales@darksidedevelopments.co.uk with reg/vin number to get the cost
want to get my 68 plate m sport 120d re mapped stage 1
You can drop us an email to sales@darksidedevelopments.co.uk
Do you deal much with the focus st tdci? It's basically a pug 2.0 engine , cheers
No Ford or PSA!
Psa scrap😂😂😂
About how much did it cost in total to get it to that much power?
please email us for the options - sales@darksidedevelopments.co.uk
What 6cylinder engine is that rail from is it 330d
We sell the kit
~290bhp with no cams or head work?
Yes
Have you had any experience with the 123d? What potential is there in one of them?
250s realistically, we had one for years!
@@DarksideDevelopments would you recond the 123d is better the 120d ?? do you know if it has the same timing chain worries ??
What kind of mileage does this car have that you're working on, looking to get my 120d done but on 130k
Condition is more important!
@@DarksideDevelopments well looked after, although haven't needed the chain doing on it surprisingly!
I’m in the same position but I’m at 160k mileage full service history pulls smooth, fast for what it is, think the engines opened up just had a new turbo too🤣
did need to remake colectors or just replace old turbo with the 2260 i want to make project 120d with 2260 can you help?
We sell all the parts, check the description!
@@DarksideDevelopments i will make my build only with 2260 550x230 cooler and stock injectors for 250hp set
Please do one with the 8hp gearbox instead of a manual
This year only had 6hp
Oh, the 8 speed is so nice. Pity the post 2008 engines aren't designed like the M47/57 family
Indeed.
Why, Im from Portugal. This injectores you use is from BMW 330d right? Is the only compatible to this motor right? I get stage 2 on my but i need more fuel, the fuel of 118d os very low, and someone tell me os not all compatible to my motor, i need more information if you can tell me please. And if i put the injectores i can take more power? Or i need put the fuel Pump too?
Email us!
Please email us with your VIN
Timing chain next blog
its already had one!
What engine did you guys get the bigger injectors from? do ones from MXX engines fit?
We sell them. Those don't fit!
@@DarksideDevelopments how much would the injectors be and how much to fit?
I wish my 2005 320d had 320 hp.
What fuel pump an rail is this running
www.darksidedevelopments.co.uk/products/complete-cp4-fuel-pump-upgrade-kit-for-bmw-n47-engines.html
can i put injectors from a 120d in a 118d and will that increase power ? thanks for any info
No, they are completely different
@@DarksideDevelopments thanks!!
👍
And Exhaust 3”inch ?
3" is tight
My 116D M Sport N47 with 154k on the clock with custom map made 191 hp and 424 nm from 117 hp and 262 nm, all it has is a Pipercross panel filter.
Not all dynos are equal don't forget
@@DarksideDevelopments its been on another dyno and gave very similar results
and M47 ?
Similar, we do a kit!
Will this be legal in Germany ?
It's not TUV approved.
I reckon this at ~630NM 1.3 ton would be a match for a traffic light challenge against your SQ7 ~1050NM 2.2 ton? 😜
That would be interested to see
Rolling challenge. This would get absolutely battered from the lights by the sq7 because its rwd.
How's the reliability and fuel consumption after all this?
Its not broken yet, consumption is good!
@@DarksideDevelopments i guess it's depends on how you drive also
This is true of stock cars!
@@DarksideDevelopments is better to do a straight pipe or replace with sport exhaust?
What Would you guys consider to be the power limit to be in terms of tuning potential?
All budget dependent, 300hp without taking the head off roughly.
Intake and bits isn't on the specs ???
It's in the turbo kit!
@@DarksideDevelopments do you sell it separately for the n47 ?
We could!
Hey, what do you think about the 318tds (m41) engine? Are 200 bhp achievable?
Not tuned any of those!
Its 6 cylinder brother barelly makes 150kW realiable so it may be possible.. for week or two at most. Dont bother with prechamber BMW engines, they just suck. Did tens of those, also 200kW on 325tds.. did not last long tho. :)
I’ve a n47 118d and I’d rather just buy a 330d tbh. The reliability issues with the chain puts me off tuning it entirely.
330d is much heavier
@@DarksideDevelopments what about squeezing the 330d power train in the 1 series? Possible?
@@DrCrunkMusic yes it’s possible and has been done but a lot of work
@Pork N Cheese not a 1 series but yeah like I said it’s been done
n57 330d's need to change the chain anyway.
Price?
Drop us an email to sales@darksidedevelopments.co.uk with reg/vin and we can let you know price including labour
So. Everybody is probably wondering the same: What does it cost?
6k maybe?
6k haha just buy a 335d 👊🏽
still won’t be a big turbo 20d 🤷♂️
Can we please get some videos with 123d please ?
I've had one, really good diesel, it pulled like a train, now I have the m235i, which is in other league