424BHP BMW N57 330D! BIG Turbo, Intercooler, Downpipe + Remap!
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- čas přidán 24. 07. 2021
- A car that does it all?
This BMW 330D estate has plenty of boot space, great MPG and now with 424BHP (316KW) & 660FT/LBS (894NM) what more would you want?
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Excellent customer reaction, big cheesy grin as you give it the beans, you guys have made him very happy, great sleeper, Rj in Oz
It's great seeing someone happy with their car love it 😊
"works a treat", now there's a quote. 400+BHP that's smiles all round. Thank you lovely vid.
Great work guys, Also have a 330d and would definitely take my car to these guys. Imagine what power it would of made with the upgraded injectors/pump! What an engine
These guys seem really trustworthy customer satisfaction looks really important to dark side.. great video lads
The smile on the customers face says it all Great work lads
I watch a lot of videos about tuning cars etc, and I would say that you guys are up there near the very best I've seen with regards to enthusiasm and knowledge. Probably out of my budget tbh, but if I had the wherewithal, I will be coming to you for any mods. Truly excellent videos and info. Many thanks indeed.
Cheers, we just try to keep customers happy and this is the result!
Video creation is on another level now, great work guys!
Went in a stock 530d when they first come out the level of torque was off the charts from my small petrol 4 pot world.
I enjoyed seeing the customers feedback. Wouldn't mind seeing more of that kind of thing in the videos.
This happened by accident (keen owner!)
@@DarksideDevelopments can you remap a mercedes diesel?
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That Turbo is a work of art 😍
Great vid. Again you keep doing these 330d upgrade vides and it’s talking me out of the 335d xdrive
Just waiting for the tool to do my HPFP, and then I’ll be running the first full dark side upgraded 530d in Australia (that I know of). Will keep you posted when I do a Dyno run.
where are you getting it done? i'm in sydney looking for a tuner for the 530d
He was genuinely over the moon with his car, the smile says it all on the first pull. When I eventually decide on my next car (a8 4.2 tdi, a5 3.0tdi, 335d/330d etc etc) I'll be coming to you guys , best in the business.
335i/d getting very rare now
Mid sentence “you need some screen wash as well” - nice one Ryan 🤣🤣
great vid as always !!!
Great stuff lads👌
Speaking of economy, have you done a comparison of a eco map and performance. Just to show the difference in torque curve and power band ect. Also a short video of how to improve mpg with any tips, mods, or adjustments to the car ect. I would love to see you do that 😁👍
Had a stage1 remap done on my 16 plate 335d and added a larger intercooler to keep the temps safe. Now got 420bhp and 754Nm torque. Its a beast and a joy to drive. Averages 36 around the doors and actually does 45mpg on a run although the fuel computer actually says 48.7
We don't see those figures on our Dyno but they don't half shift!
Is that with dpf removal?
@@TheCinderellaman10 EGR and DPF Still in place
@@trevorshields7347 can’t be 420bhp tbh if you still have the dpf since that a big limiter, probs around 380-390
If you’re mileage is climbing, it’s worth doing the main and con rod bearings
I wanna hear this thing from the outside, sounds great!
Wow you know your stuff brill👍👍👍
Brilliant video, I feel like bringing my stock 330d sport to you guys for a little upgrade.
Top job I would be more than happy with that 👍🏻
A good insight in what a good well tuned 330 will do , good vid
Ive now decided i want one of these
The car is a beast the m3 disel with double tourge.💪💪
Got one of these turbos going on a 1.7L dv6 hdi/tdci engine with a supercharger
Please keep developing the N57N. I'd love to see what this car would do with the larger injectors and pump.
Don't worry, we have plans in place!
@@DarksideDevelopments Wonderful! My '18 (last year for diesel here) US Spec F15 will be watching intensely from a distance.
Please excuse the mustache, i was going to a 90s party after :')
Amazing work guys, thanks again! Looking forward to coming back in a few months!
What's the deal with the headlights? They don't look like LCI as they have different indicators, looks pre-lci.
Also, don't go M50D injectors and HPFP on a manual as I found out. Need to then upgrade the clutch and flywheel, but no one makes a upgraded dual mass flywheel to handle the power and torque.
As mentioned in the vid, this power is the best bang for the buck, anymore and then you need to start spending money everywhere for the car to handle it.
@@kaisergurdeep Check out some of the N54 Clutch upgrades as they do fit :)
@@ianm077 I ended up getting a twin organic disc clutch fitted which handles the power, but still running stock DMF. The DMF judders the car in 6th at 2k rpm if you floor it, if you apply power more gradually not an issue though.
I'm running 500Hp+ and 1,000Nm+ on my manual E90 330D LCI N57. It's stupid fast, but regret going M50D parts, should have stopped at the level in this video, which is more than enough power.
@@kaisergurdeep Hi Deeps, Yes i think power wise im happy with where its at right now. only thing im definatley going to add in there is a LSD just help keep the power down. Head lights are DEPO V3's straight swap plug and play! can get them off of sites like M-Style which are UK based
@@ixMike001975xi yeah only upgrade left for me to do now is the LSD too.
Currently running:
Wagner intercooler
Turbosystems hybrid turbo
Twin organic disc clutch
Straight pipe
Meth injection
M50D injectors, HPFP, sensor
F30 M-Sport Brembo brake calipers
Stainless lines
E90 M3 master brake cylinder and servo
Birds BMW suspension (Bilstein dampers and Eibach springs)
H&R anti roll bars
E90 M3 control arms
Swirl flap delete, clutch delay valve delete, egr delete
I have a F10d and have ordered/installed all of these parts aside from the coilovers from Darkside but have struggled for so long to find a reliable diesel tuner. Wish you were around my block.
great video
Still happy with my m57 still reliable and still goes off the clock!! Would like to drop it off to you guys one day to see what can achieve
I wondered the same for my M57. It’s a M57-2 if that makes any difference but I’m not sure. I always thought the N57 was the weaker one out of the two.
@@johnlever6696 n57 it is weaker especially bottom end they like to spin main bearing.
I’d love this engine in a Z4!
I never really considered having my stock F10 530 tuned, but man... after this video I'm seriously considering it. 😅
I mean, stock is 258 horses and I'd really be happy with 350 or so just to keep things safe for the gearbox and the drive train.
Too bad I'm long ways away from Barnsley, United freakin' Kingdom. 😢😂
Who knows, maybe one day I'll swing by when I make my pilgrimage to IOM TT because that's on my bucket list.
Thanks for the great video chaps, nicely done! 💪
We do offer remote tuning as well! Drop us an email to sales@darksidedevelopments.co.uk with vin and we can see if it's compatible
Would love to see you do something similar on a 35d with xdrive, evil
I'm full on petrol mad the power top end is crazy but when I get bk in the P.D I realise how much I'm not filling up compared to a tuned golf
Wicked build, have you had many n57 come in needing chain doing? Did you map the box with xhp?
Not had any issues on N57. Yes
“I service it myself every 6 thousand miles”.
Looking at the air filter that got removed - yeah, looks like it.
Be interesting to see stats on this car 0-60, 1/4 and a 1/2. Probably wouldn't be far off the stock M cars.
It will beat stock m cara to 60. In 1/4 mile it will run behind but still be very healthy
2872.....f10 turbo......nicely......on this bmw...perfect configuration...
Love your videos, was a JLR technician myself, i learn a lot from you coz you go deep into details and R and D, At 16mins25 you mentioned timing chain… N47 known issue, iam planning to buy an N57 e91LCi similar to that one, would you recommend a chain replacement+ that double sprocket gear at 150k miles? Sorry for my English iam a frog trying my best.
N57 is OK ;)
6:32 is an example of why ERG is the worst way to bring emissions down.
If the EGR System on a modern car looks like that id imagine most 15-20 year old diesels with this system still on them are just plugged solid.
People in the industry told me to disassemble the EGR System and clean it every 50-60.000 miles and/or change the EGR Valve. You are mad is what I said.
That is not a simple job like changing spark plugs or performing a regular service (oil,belts etc). Id have to order up a seal kit, cleaner and probably new parts aswell.
Having that done at the dealership would be ideal but imagine the bill... A full service of the EGR System should be in the regular service intervals when you lease a car or buy new.
If you ever get the chance tell the same people to plumb a hose from their arse to their mouths and see how they get on being fitted with an EGR valve recycling their noxious gasses...same principle and not very pleasant for the end user.
11:55 xD i almost choked on my lunch
Videos like this make me want to consider a 330D touring 😍 p.s. would you guys ever consider touching Merc diesels? I know the OM651 has a lot of potential but no one's really explored them, and the country is littered with them in all sorts of applications
Can't do the mercs!
@@rytiskurcinskas7179 kack
thoughts on experimenting with the quad turbos from the newer bmws? worth it over a big single?
Too complicated for their own good!
Makes me wonder what you guys could do with my 150 B8 Passat Tdi...
I enjoy watching the bmw content, as from owning one. Be good to see n47n content 😌 for 2013 ect. Don't seem to be much on the market or very pricey
I would love to see an in depth video of the Powergate.
Its coming!
Looks great up to 60mph when you stopped accelerating....😇😉
I'd love to see what you can get out of the N47 engine.
I'm wondering what's the mpg like , after all those modifications ?
Thank you 😊
Similar if driven the same!
I'm on stage 3 . Wagner intercooler. Straight pipe etc. How much does a stage 3 remap and fitted hybrid cost? It should hit 380bhp? I don't want to spend the money on m50 injectors and pump atm. Also is it true it takes longer to spool up on a hybrid. Making it worse around town but better on long straights? Thanks
We don't work in stages like generic mappers, who use smoke and mirrors to charge you more. Please forward your email and reg and we will send you the details.
Usual Darkside customer road test-face 😮 😀
Lol
Do you guys ever fit oil/air separators to the modified TDI's like this? Something like the Mann-Hummel ProVent? Also, any chance we can see the before/after dyno chart? It's hard to tell the gains from these upgrades without knowing where the car started. Cheers!
We never ran this stock but it would make stock figures!
If this package is around 3.5k I’d really consider doing it, imagine 900nm with the top down that would be mentall!!
It’s more like just shy of 10k with VAT and labour costs
Ignore me, didn’t realise it was on stock injectors and rail pressure sensors!
Im at 340rwhp in my 3l diesel its an isuzu diesel not a bmw and im 14k deep in performance mods doing it all my self im making a bit more torque but still this package is insane value
So how much would fuel economy be affected with normal driving? Let’s say it usually does 45mpg on a 20 mile drive, mostly 60mpg single carriageway, would the mpg be similar?
Usually very similar
Would u guys be willing to include rough or exact spend on this in terms of parts and then labor including tune? If you could give a breakdown that would be really great as I’m looking into a base car to do similar setup thanks very much
If you drop us an email to sales@darksidedevelopments.co.uk, we can give you a breakdown with updated pricing
Alright mate had a few problems with my bora tdi st pd . I have pd 150 hybrid turbo my pipe that connects to egr valve as I'm still running egr keeps popping off on the hard pipe as it's the standard pipe for the egr . I have your side mount kit . Do you do a uprated pipe for egr pipe as my one a bit short and the clamps keep popping off under full boost I have tightened up as much as possible. And seems all good for now but it will do it again . I want to be able to build up enough back pressure so wen exhaust is on I don't lose all that pressure with straight pipes and I don't want decat as I'm still on standard exhaust . I will also need free flow sport cat. Down pipe and nice system. I can bring to you now as I'm off in 5 weeks I drop her off so we can do the bits and Bob's done now as we been talking a while now . And a power run if all possible to see wat I have now . As I think I got about 200 bhp plus . As before new turbo and your intercooler kit I had 175 bhp at fly wheel all on standard bits . And a revo remap . And she is a lot faster than before . And wen you get it and we meet hopefully if you are impressed you can help Me finish. My nan raised me and helped me get the car so it means alot as she has passed away . And she never got to see the car complete . Thank you . I have tried to phone but your phones are still off . Bloody covid
Email us but we won't tune that turbo
When does that system start to spool? Your graph starts at 2.000rpm. Not that I'm planning to get one but just out of curiosity. I just love good torque from down low that doesn't rub out of revs upwards. A good punch of torque but not uncontrolled.
Love the Mk3 Mondeo 2.2TDCi. Unluckily they have a big issue with the injectors. But the power band is a dream. I like PD engines too but the torque just comes too aggressive and they run out of rpm so quickly
Boost starts at super low RPM but below 2k it's a bit slower
@@DarksideDevelopments hey thanks for the reply. If you'd hold it below 2000Rpm and hit the throttle. Will it eventually spool or is that just too low? Like going down the motorway in 6th gear
Absolutely awesome videos guys, im looking at the 330d and 335d how reliable are they when tuned plz
As long at they are looked after properly, they are very reliable. We've done a 430 and 435 both very similar spec and they been running for years
430 - www.darksidedevelopments.co.uk/bmw-f32-430d-n57t-3-0-24v-cr-ga8hp-70z-zf-8hp-8-speed-automatic-455bhp-750ft-lbs/
435 - www.darksidedevelopments.co.uk/bmw-f32-435d-n57z-3-0-24v-cr-ga8hp-70z-zf-8hp-8-speed-automatic-424bhp-690ft-lbs/
@@DarksideDevelopments thank you guys, really appreciate the help
I'd be well happy with that an'all. How much did it cost out of interest?
Email us for an accurate quote!
I have a 330d xdrive F30 2014. Love the car but so frustrating being here in Ireland as theres so few places that do mods to cars. Wish I was closer to these guys
only a ferry away!
@@DarksideDevelopments yes it's very tempting. If I decide to go for it I'll give you guys a call.
yes yes yes darkside do u guys have the graphic for the intercooler graphic and can i buy it or make my own
You have to buy our cooler!
Best bit , head rest
Is there a big difference in proformance going from m57 to n57 with this turbo?
Could explain the differences?
Injectors are much better on N57
I guess its always worth doing a compression test on an engine before putting one of those turbos on? Probably not worth changing rings ect with every turbo upgrade?
It's not always necessary to do one, we can normally tell if there is anything serious during road tests and logging, then we can decide if we need to do one
Pro turbo, and turbo systems 335ds regularly see 530-570brake, yes some M50d parts help but it’s worth it. Probably not enough to get it sub 8 100-200 though
What m50d parts are used? Off the x5 m50? 374bhp Tri Turbo engine?
@@vp5 hpfp, rail sensor, injectors. Some have transplanted Quad turbo M50d into 335d shell.
@@one40i19 the b57 is quad turbo. Can't believe anyone has put that in an e series shell yet
@@vp5 f30, should have clarified
Would be interested to know if you could do a dyno run with & without swirl flaps activated on an m57 engined vehicle to see if it actually increases torque below 2000rpm by any meaningful amount or they are just there to help with the in cylinder mixing of egr gasses
Regards
It's hard to notice when driving but we are looking to doing a test comparing them with and without
@@DarksideDevelopments
Thanks for reply
As I hardly ever exceed 2000rpm it would be interesting to know if it would be beneficial if I was to reinstall my swirl flaps for better low rpm drivability & fuel consumption
Will keep an eye out for your findings
Regards
Great video. Would similar results be possible on the X3 F25 30d with the N57D engine?
Should be able to! We've got a blog on n57 tuning if you want to check it out - www.darksidedevelopments.co.uk/Blog/tuning-the-bmw-x30d-n57n-n57d30a-30-diesel-engine/
Would have been nice to see the fitting
Are all the changes you did to this car compliant with passing an MOT? What sort of ball park are you talking for a similar job on a 125D?
Best to email us, any form of modification should be an MOT fail
I have a manual... reading clutch specs and engine power left me only with the sachs zf engineering clutch with the sintered plate. However this sucks to drive... What to you guys think about this engine, the power output and what clutch to use because clearly now i want to downgrade the clutch but still upgrade the engine.... I'm screwed !!
Please email our sales / technical team - sales@darksidedevelopments.co.uk and they will hopefully be able to help you :)
What was rear wheel power/torque? It’s odd that you UK guys try and convert it to fly because it’s an educated guess at best I would’ve thought?
It always works out fine. When you buy a car it's rated at the flywheel
I’ve got a 530d with an M572 and I want this power.
Injectior is the limit
what i wonder with alle these mods qith flap and egr deletes is if they will get through emissionstest in germany. if they retain the dpf it should do, or am i missing something?
I think it will be fine but power lower
@@DarksideDevelopments thx, yeah thats a obvious one. more restrictive flow, higher exhaust temps are the first ones that come to mind.
Yes, egt is always the limit!
Dream would be a 550d with tubular headers and 4 vgt turbos.
Also on m57 (because of 2 intake manifolds) after removing swirl flaps , what about adding a single throttle butterfly before the manifold ?
Not sure their would be much benefit
Thanks for the vid looking to upgrade to a BMW , been looking at 335d or 340d, but now i have seen this vid ,what would be a good family and sleeper got 20 to 23 bags + a kidney bean , that's buy car and come to you for your mod list, if I go a 330d would that be doable ? had to ask, any info would be good. thank PJ
How about a 430d - czcams.com/video/7KpZtXUQXqk/video.html
400bhp should be achievable with that budget on any of the vehicles you are looking at.
Was this all with stock HPFP, rail pressure sensor and injectors? Impressive numbers!
Yes, full specs here - www.darksidedevelopments.co.uk/bmw-e91-330d-n57-3-0-24v-cr-ga6hp-26z-6-speed-automatic-424-4bhp-660ft-lbs/
Straight question Im very interested in that mode , but is that can beat stock c63amg. 0-60,100-200?
I have 2015 f36 3.0 and dont know what to do sell it or keep it. Any advise please.
The C63 might be quicker over 100mph, not sure!
The swirl flaps of the N57 don't break and fall into the cylinders. That was only the case for the M57 before revision. Don't be afraid of them with a standard setup. They give you more torque for low rpms.
Bits do break off. And the motors fail. They are only open at low loads so won't give torque anywhere that matters. They are for emissions only.
Torque issue when Flaps have been removed does not count on a stage 2-3 tuned car ;-)
Congrats, great job as usual!!
Why is this E91 N57, doing better figures than the F31 N57N? This doing 424hp and the F31 doing 411hp…
Different fuel system mainly. We might have an N57N doing more power that this now :-)
Thank you for the answer. Keep up with the great work!!👍🏻
@@DarksideDevelopments Can I squeeze around 400hp without an M50d fuel pump on the N57 ?
Would the E93 be ok with this kind of power? Apparently the roof mech cant handle too much torque?
Where are you getting your info from? Do it and find out and don't forget to video it just incase
@@DarksideDevelopments heard it from someone in BMW apparently thats why they never made the E93 as a 335D. Again, not sure but I am keen to try
Any long lasting issues with that torque in the 700nm rated zf gearbox? Would love to hear from the company as i cant trust anyone and everyone online, cheers
They are super strong!
@@DarksideDevelopments im gonna take that with everything in my soul telling me to go 'MOREEEE' hahaha
e90 series 335d was m57 only they did not switch to n57 after facelift like in 330d so maybe that should be taken into consideration when deciding between maped 335d and bigger turbo 330d
So the only difference between the pre lci e90 335d and the lci 335d is the gearbox?
Coyld do with my auto box matching to map thats on it as it seems to hold slightly shes a 330d as well lol
Buenas amigo , esa clase de turbo de rodamientos se tienen que refrigerar con agua ?
They aren't cooled by water , no
Can i make a video request please ? I would love to know Darksides views on the best 6 cylinder diesels to modify and get the biggest power from. I love both VAG and Bmw, I've had 4 VW's and loved the lot. Love the 640D and the A7 with the v6 Bitdi but what does Scott and the Darkside lads think on subject? Thank you and i hope to see a vid in the near future #darksideforlife
Quattro is better for winter! Sound is better from Audi. BMW makes power a little easier and tuning is a little easier!
@@DarksideDevelopments im leaning towards Audi as there's so many bimmers on the road these days and i don't see too many A7s running over 400 lol
@@DarksideDevelopments would you say the single turbo version is just as capable as the Bitdi ? Better spec and lower price tag on them, same with the Bmw 330/335 etc i imagine
Wonder how well a manual car would cope with this kind of torque, tempting to go for a similar build with mine
Ive got an e92 330d manual, the box is only rated for 600nm, mine has been mapped to 600nm/300bhp, has 186k miles and 0 issues. Bet it wouldnt last as long, but i think it would do 800nm fine.
@@hello7533 oh nice thanks for the info, I’m thinking of asking if they’ll do me like a stage 1+ so emissions bollocks deleted and upgrade the intercooler to keep the temps down
The BMW boxes are all super strong!
Thinking of N57 swapping my W124... I'll definitely need to keep you guys in mind for some pointers. Sadly, I am on the other side of the globe.
We ship worldwide!
Bro do a om606 or om648 swap
@@6208ccm already has an OM606 NA. I'm putting a 606 turbo in soon. Using a Turbo systems Stage 4 M57N2 turbo, Kangaroos Team VNT manifold, EDC pump, Baldur's DSL1 ECU, water to air intercooler, 10R80 trans... Building a custom dash... Way too much, but it will be fun to do, and even more fun to be finished with.
Hello Darkside Developments.
What sort of power can you get out of a Audi A4 b8.5 2016 3.0 TDI 272hp original.
Email us, 400+
@@DarksideDevelopments Nice. Thanks for the answer. You guys are the diesel wizards 😁
What is the all in cost of this package (all said and done - parts, labour and remap)?
Email us!
hi i take it the dpf has been removed if so whats the smoke like ? bad or only a little amount
No smoke!
Not being picky here as i love your channel...but surely there should wing guards to protect the paint when youre working on it ?
To protect the wings from the technician's tummy? I'm sure it's fine.
Full English between him and the body work
@@med86win Possibly even in a fresh barm.
@@curbyourshi1056 breakfast bin lid 😂
@@med86win Aye, knowing NorfMen. 🤣😂🤣
Is there any kind of discount for handing in our stock turbo for this big turbo? Or are we better off selling the turbo ourselves?
Drop an email to sales@darksidedevelopments.co.uk
Why not an N57 pumped up ,,slightly " in your R6 project? Probably lighter than the V8 or is it too long? I mean the V8 diesel adds quiet a bit of weight.
Nah, gotta be a v8. Sure the n57 is great, but its not really what you want in a 'supercar'
Straight 6 too long!
@@DarksideDevelopments ok. Thanks for the response.
@@hello7533 I understand that but you also don't want to spoil the car by adding too much weight.
Isnt there an issue with taking the egr cooler off the n57 resulting in frying the head????
This is certainly a myth!
How would the 335d compare tuning wise?
We need to test a good turbo first!
Hi guys quick question I have a f10 525d (3.0) is that the same as a 530d engine? Also it’s got 225k on the clock would it be safe to mod it or would it be a ticking time bomb 🤣
Drop us an email with the VIN and we will check this further - sales@dark-side.co.uk. Mileage is not an issue as long as the components are in good condition and have been replaced when needed. The main issues are usually clutch, flywheel and turbo but these can all be replaced.
I’m intrigued. I have a 120d 181bhp & it’s decent performance. It’s slower than my e46 330ci but not much. How much do I need to spend to make the 120d rapid? Or is the 2litre too small etc? I’d love to know.
I had a copper d remapped & I genuinely think it slowed it down. I’d be genuinely grateful of some feedback
Drop us an email to sales@darksidedevelopments.co.uk and we can give you a list of parts and costs including labour and a rough estimate of power figures
@@DarksideDevelopments thank you 🙏