A Miter Gauge that Does One Angle?! - Woodpeckers Exact-90 Review

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    Woodpeckers recently released a brave entry into the market: a miter gauge that does only one angle! It's called the Exact-90 Miter Gauge and it currently retails for $329.99. You might want to check out my previous Ultimate Miter Gauge Review to see where the Exact-90 fits into the landscape but suffice it to say that I didn't include it in the big review because it would have done terribly. No matter how good it is, it only does one angle and it does it for a LOT of money. Because of that, I assumed this review was going to be cut and dry as I just couldn't see the value proposition. But as I spent more time with the gauge I realized that Woodpeckers made a few significant advancements with this product that make it more than just a simple one-trick pony. Here are a few of the highlights:
    - Unique miter bar design that requires no calibration and worked great in my miter slot.
    - Miter bar is extremely long and features two washers to help support wide panel cuts.
    - A Flop-Stop add-on that also helps support wide panels by keeping the fence level when it's no longer on the table surface.
    - A micro-adjustable stop.
    - A simple calibration system for adjusting the 90 degree angle, should it require adjustment.
    - A telescoping fence that rivals some of the longest on the market and features a sacrificial fence.
    As for the negatives, there's really only one: the price. This miter gauge does exactly what they say it does and the panel-cutting functionality means it can do things most other miter gauges can't do without significant modification.
    I have to admit, this product is hard to pin down. It's not really a miter gauge as it only does a single angle. It's not really a panel sled because, well, there's no sled. It seems to reside in some weird hybrid space where it hopes to present the best of both worlds and for some woodworkers, it just might succeed. But for others, the single angle will be a tough pill to swallow and while it does a surprisingly good job with panels, it's not going to be quite as good as a classic cross-cut sled where you have a little more capacity and greater stability (as well as a much larger footprint). In the end, this is a decision I can't make for anyone else, but hopefully I've given you enough information to make the right call for yourself.
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  • @peteblizzard3292
    @peteblizzard3292 Před 2 lety +7

    Have a number of Woodpecker tools. I purchased this "Exact 90" miter gauge. It worked consistently on material under 12 inches. But between 12 and 24 inches, was unreliable in my new Laguna Fusion 2 table saw. I calibrated the gauge with my saw blade to ensure 90 degrees. I used the flop stop (that I love), used both gauge washers, and used it with and without the sacrifical fence. In all cases, I could not get a consistent 90 degree cut for 12-24 inch boards..
    I emailed the issues to Woodpeckers, telling them that I suspected a weak leaf spring in the first two slots. I was called a week later by a machinist. He located a Fusion two table, made measurements, and milled me a new miter bar with tighter leaf springs. Sent to me as a warranty issue (no cost), and the new bar is perfect for all board lengths. Never had this terrific experience with any tool company. Just became a lifetime fan! Customer focus extraordinaire!

    • @Article15Angling
      @Article15Angling Před 3 měsíci

      I love their customer service. You don't need them often, but when you do they knock it out of the park!

    • @kevinroberts9814
      @kevinroberts9814 Před 3 měsíci

      My experience was the complete opposite. I bought their regular miter gauge and, when I got it, I found that the fence extension didn't line up with the main fence. I communicated with one of their reps about the problem and explained that it seemed to be a problem with the rail that connects the extension piece with the main fence. Without any further inquiry and without asking, they mailed me a second fence, which, surprise surprise, was no different than the first. I bought a big fender washer and installed that and it seemed to help a little. The second or third time I used it I noticed it was slipping out of square, and ended up ruining a couple of workpieces. That's when I figured out that the handle screw is the only thing holding the protractor head tight, no detents. Even cranking down on the handle wasn't enough to hold it square when cutting anything but small pieces. Finally, I noticed that the flip stop, which they seem to be so proud of, had cracked right down the middle. I contacted them again through the "contact us" link on their website and never heard another word from them. @@Article15Angling

  • @ChristianN-
    @ChristianN- Před 2 lety +47

    This seems like a very good example of how a company needs to handle a product problem. Something a certain company should take notes on. Interesting video as always.

    • @davido1490
      @davido1490 Před 2 lety

      Is this a crossover between my hobbies or was there recently a woodworking company with customer service issues?

    • @ChristianN-
      @ChristianN- Před 2 lety +1

      @@davido1490 it was a comment on Harvey's reaction to the issues discovered in the previous mitre gauge video 😅

  • @feinschmegga
    @feinschmegga Před 2 lety +6

    After that miter gauge video drama, the woodpecker CEO himself probably packaged that replacement miter bar 😂

    • @Article15Angling
      @Article15Angling Před 3 měsíci

      He doesn't want to feel like Harvey or Kreg 😂😂

  • @BadAppleWoodwerx
    @BadAppleWoodwerx Před 2 lety +5

    I expected the 5 cut method. 😉
    Thanks for the video. 😎

  • @nichartman4688
    @nichartman4688 Před 2 lety +1

    I can personally attest to Woodpeckers' customer service as a nobody. They priority mailed a replacement when a square I bought was bent in shipping, and it was doubly boxed and sent out same day. No questions asked, no need to end the old back. Obviously, you're paying for this service, but it's comforting to work with a company that always stands behind the product.

  • @billbee235
    @billbee235 Před 10 měsíci +2

    After watching your miter gauge review I ended up buying the Incra 1000SE. It was more than I wanted to spend but I’m happy with it as a weekend warrior that just builds stuff for the house

  • @IAmKyleBrown
    @IAmKyleBrown Před 2 lety +25

    Marc. I massively appreciate you efforts to call out and disclose bias. It's an honest approach that is hard to find on the interwebs these days.
    I personally come here because I greatly value your opinion because I've come to trust and respect it. I'm a hobbyist when I have the time, you are someone who has committed his life to the craft. Will you and I always agree? Nope, but I'm a grown ass adult that can observe and make my own decisions.
    Thank you, sir!

  • @MosquitoMade
    @MosquitoMade Před 2 lety +3

    the addition of the TV behind you in place of the Powermatic sign is fantastic, for the record lol

  • @DamianInman
    @DamianInman Před 2 lety +3

    My experience with Woodpeckers is premium price, premium product, premium service.

  • @MakeSomething
    @MakeSomething Před 2 lety +55

    That flop stop is genius!

    • @65BAJA
      @65BAJA Před 2 lety

      Yea, Going to have to try to make something like that for my Incra.

    • @kyleolson8977
      @kyleolson8977 Před 2 lety

      I love the idea of the flop stop, but right now it's still feels like a v1 version. You have to have just the right boards, cuts, and distance off the table. Woodpeckers iterates, so I wouldn't be surprised to see a tweak.

    • @andylong6589
      @andylong6589 Před 2 lety +1

      clamp a block on top? seems to work for me. but this looks great

    • @11211lcb
      @11211lcb Před 2 lety

      @@kyleolson8977 I have this tool and the Flop Stop. There is really no limitation that I have seen so far. It can be placed anywhere along the fence and the size of the board has to be narrower than the length of the miter/guide bar. I don't see any issues with the Flop Stop. BUT the flip stop has an issue, I mentioned that above.

  • @JBLewis
    @JBLewis Před 2 lety +21

    The velocity of Woodpeckers' innovation is pretty amazing to me. The get a lot of points in my book for simply trying things. I admit to being frustrated when a "one time" tool doesn't get a second run or put into permanent production.

  • @kencoleman7762
    @kencoleman7762 Před 2 lety +2

    I purchased the Exact 90 because it answered a problem I was having. I found it to be rugged and reliable. Since I cut a lot of right angles this miter gauge is my go to gauge. I'm glad I bought it. I have never regretted purchasing WP products.

  • @DuongNguyen-gg3uc
    @DuongNguyen-gg3uc Před rokem

    Hello @The Wood Whisperer;
    It is an excellent review.
    Here are reasons for my purchase:
    1. It does one thing and one thing well.
    2. It is tremendously high quality, well built and will last forever aka lifetime deal.
    3. It is made in U.S.A.
    4. Woodpeckers has an unbelievable customer support department which nobody can come close.
    5. It is extremely pleasant to use the tool rather than fighting it.
    6. Pay now or pay more later.
    7. It is a complete dream.
    8. It will bring back your youth and force you to remember amiable whey you were young.
    9. You made it, have earned it and now go spend it.

  • @BenedictMHolland
    @BenedictMHolland Před 2 lety +5

    I love mine. A lot. It's a perfect 90 degree cut. The supports are really long and the rail is the longest I have seen. It's extremely well built.

  • @sharkydiver3900
    @sharkydiver3900 Před 2 lety +2

    Good review Marc. Just want to say I appreciate the opening. A great man learns and grows.

  • @pennyroyal3813
    @pennyroyal3813 Před 2 lety +5

    The mitre gauge that came with my table saw did only one angle - the wrong one. I bought an Incra and it is superb.

  • @inspectr1949
    @inspectr1949 Před 2 lety +1

    Great solution to the bulkiness and calibration issues of a crosscut sled, has my attention thank you Marc for all you do otherwise I would have never known as the price point alone would have otherwise have been a deterrent.

  • @mattmorrisson9607
    @mattmorrisson9607 Před 2 lety +5

    Great video, as always, Marc! I love the extended miter bar, but I think I would rather have something with some more capabilities than this offers, though. Thanks for all you do for our community!

  • @BrickhouseCraftWorks
    @BrickhouseCraftWorks Před 2 lety +2

    Excellent review, Marc!
    You’re absolutely right, it’s not for everyone but, this absolutely ticked all of the boxes for me, and thus, was worth the cost!
    It was nice review to watch and I’m glad to see Woodpeckers quality control step up to address the issue you had with the miter bar.
    - Seth

  • @zacharmstrong5573
    @zacharmstrong5573 Před 2 lety +2

    I can say I have received exactly the same treatment from woodpeckers. I had a delve square that was a little off 90, and they shipped me a new one not questions asked. In the package it also had a hand written note that it was double checked for 90 before shipping.

  • @ronaldsiverd4212
    @ronaldsiverd4212 Před 2 lety +5

    Great review! Thanks for posting it. Like many others, I think the WP tools are fantastic, but much too expensive for the level of woodworking that I do (although there are some red tools in my shop). I had the good fortune of having a machinist for a dad, who made me several fixed angle miter gauges with zero slop and dead-on angles. They are my go-to for common angles, and an Incra 1000HD for others. I have to rig a flop stop for mine!

  • @NWGR
    @NWGR Před 2 lety +18

    Thanks Marc. This is a very nice tool, but not a $329 tool. I'm all for paying good money for high quality tools (I own a ton of dubuque bar clamps, bessey revos, festool tracksaw, etc.), and even love a lot of woodpecker's other tools (their 641 and 1281 squares), but this one is priced prohibitively. This is $200, tops.

    • @falxonPSN
      @falxonPSN Před rokem

      Yeah, they are charging for their name at this point.

    • @csimet
      @csimet Před rokem

      100% agree. My 90 degree setup... I use my original (cheap) saw miter gauge I setup to exactly 90 with a simple sacrificial/replaceable 3/4" plywood strip. I never change it and "made" it fit into my miter slot with no slop. For everything else, I use my expensive miter gauge.

    • @bobbg9041
      @bobbg9041 Před rokem

      The value is in the person who buys it.
      I also belive the market will adjust the price, but like any other company they have figured machining time and materials cost as r&d, there is a reason it priced the way it is.
      You have to figure raw materials cost
      Machining time and what did the cost of the tools cost to buy as well as labor cost, then everything has to go get anodised red, not just any red but woodpeckers red.
      We did parts for the mitilary they had to be a certain green if the parts didn't match the right green they got rejected.
      The rest of the part was perfect. The color was off. Rejected. Funny thing about all that, these parts held explosive charges at the end of the day they were blowen up.
      How many woodpeckers tools are not sold but scraped becuse they are not the same color red?
      The woodpeckers tools will be in your shop for years many people will see them. The owner of woodpeckers is demanding of qulity, he won't ship out bad stuff and will cover it if it is defective. His name or company name is on it. So you have to ask whats the scrap rate becuse for whatever reason not everything made is sold.

    • @NWGR
      @NWGR Před rokem

      @@bobbg9041 I mean, this is literally a one trick pony. You can buy a nice runner from incra or even woodpeckers, and a scrap of aluminum from mcmaster, any metal supplier, or even amazon and put together something just as accurate while saving a boatload of cash relative to materials+time+effort to make something very similar.
      Again, I'm not against paying good money for good tools; I have several festool sanders, a TS 55 and a CT Midi I; but the value needs to be there. A tool asking a high price needs to earn that high price, not coast by on a name brand.

  • @thecutworx
    @thecutworx Před 2 lety +1

    Always like your videos! Thank you. Do enjoy the new approach!

  • @davidwiggins26
    @davidwiggins26 Před 2 lety +1

    I've been waiting for this video! Cannot wait to get mine. Great review!

  • @chrislamb155
    @chrislamb155 Před 2 lety

    Your review sold me... Just placed an order for 2 of them! One for me and another for a friend.

  • @Mark_Wood
    @Mark_Wood Před 2 lety +1

    Wow this looks so much better than I expected. I hadn't even considered it until seeing your review

  • @allenwood5411
    @allenwood5411 Před 2 lety +1

    I own a handful of Woodpeckers layout tools and used their t-tracks in a few projects. No issues with anything I've bought...other than explaining to my wife why I think their tools are worth the cost. However, I can't justify the cost of some of their innovations--such as this tool. BUT, like others have said, IF money wasn't a factor, I'd own way more Woodpeckers products. I love that they are made in the USA and I do think they are well made and of very high quality.
    Thanks for the review!

  • @aclawrence
    @aclawrence Před 2 lety +2

    Great review Marc. Thanks for sharing.

  • @jimadams6159
    @jimadams6159 Před 2 lety

    Great honest review. Although I am in the UK, I have to say I really like the quality and customer service you get with Woodpecker tools.

  • @johnryan1211
    @johnryan1211 Před 2 lety +1

    Thank You, Marc
    I think this was a good review.
    I also agreed with you on the Ultimate Miter Gauge Review. I especially appreciate that you gave your honest opinion of the Harvey Compass MG-36.
    I look forward to more reviews. 👍👍👍👍👍

  • @DKWalser
    @DKWalser Před 2 lety +11

    Woodpeckers' tools are great. If price weren't a consideration, my shop would be full of them.

    • @DirkieB
      @DirkieB Před 2 lety +6

      Isn't that always the case though? :) Goes for me too! Bridge City / Woodpeckers for layout, Lie Nielsen hand tools, Festool powertools and Felder group stationary machines. If only they didn't cost so much! :D

    • @oliphauntsneverlie6227
      @oliphauntsneverlie6227 Před 2 lety +1

      Agreed. This 90* miter is way overpriced.

    • @DKWalser
      @DKWalser Před 2 lety

      @@oliphauntsneverlie6227 I didn't say that it was overpriced. Given the obvious quality of the materials and construction, and given the low volume production run, Woodpeckers may not be making much money on these things. But, even if they are, that wouldn't make their price unfair. If it represents a good value for you and your shop, buy it. If not, buy or make something else.
      Permit an analogy. I used to wear a suit everyday to work. That meant I needed to have at least three serviceable suits and the shirts, ties, and shoes that went with them. Over the years, I bought a lot of suits, shirts, and ties. If money had been no object, I would have had my suits hand-tailored for me. Some of the men I worked with had such custom made suits. Believe me, they were nicer than what I wore. But, money was always, and still is, a consideration. So, most of my suits came from JC Penney.
      I didn't begrudge the tailors in my town the price of their labor and fabric; nor do I begrudge Woodpeckers the price of their tools. JC Penney suits served my needs and I have reasonable substitutes for Woodpeckers products. But, gosh, those tools sure are nice!

  • @christopherrios4138
    @christopherrios4138 Před 2 lety

    I've acquired a number of red tools over the last three years while building all of the cabinets for our kitchen remodel. When I got the emails about this my reaction was "meh - good idea but too pricey."
    Looking at my list of follow on projects after the kitchen is finished, I've got literally hundreds of 90's to cut, some of them on panels.
    After watching your mitre gauge "shootout" and this video, my next stop is the Woodpeckers website to order this.
    Thanks Marc!

  • @SpydieFan
    @SpydieFan Před 2 lety +2

    Love it, not sure if I’ll be getting it, but I’m very tempted.

  • @hansangb
    @hansangb Před 2 lety

    I definitely see beauty in simplicity! Never even knew Woodpecker made these. thanks

  • @rpnp2
    @rpnp2 Před 2 lety +15

    As a machinist that got into woodworking. I find this community is more of tool collector than a woodworker at times.

    • @necrojoe
      @necrojoe Před 2 lety +6

      Eh, any enthusiast community is like that. Guitar players with a wall if guitars who play once a week, people who modify their Jeeps but never go off road, etc.

    • @rpnp2
      @rpnp2 Před 2 lety

      @@necrojoe that’s true

    • @joselrodriguez5999
      @joselrodriguez5999 Před rokem +1

      We machinist are the same. How many lathe live centers do you have? How many mill collet sets? :)

    • @chipsterb4946
      @chipsterb4946 Před 10 měsíci

      OMG you nailed it! I love tools, all tools. Doesn’t matter if I’m setting up my guitar, building amps, woodworking or doing something Tommy side-by-side. Wow! I need another tool for that job! 😂

  • @christinabradley5079
    @christinabradley5079 Před 2 lety +6

    I love this! I bought this as soon as it hit my email. I rarely do anything other than 90s and I am one of those who struggle with a sled. Worth all the money for me and I know my cross cuts are perfect.

  • @arth.4196
    @arth.4196 Před 2 lety

    Marc I will buy one. What just sold me is the slight adjustment you made to align with the blade was so easy. 🔥 🤟👍

  • @372trip2
    @372trip2 Před 2 lety

    Your reviews are amazing and detailed 👍👍 love to see you do woodpeckers new auto scale miter sled.

  • @chrislamb4723
    @chrislamb4723 Před 2 lety

    I want one! Great demo and review - thank you! Also, I too have had amazing experience with Woodpeckers customer service.

  • @n8wrl
    @n8wrl Před 2 lety

    I have one of these squares and love it. Woodpeckers is always very responsive and helpful.

  • @ryancousins
    @ryancousins Před 2 lety +2

    Fantastic review. WP certainly it doesn’t make junk. If I ever won the lottery I’d have one very red wall in my shop.

  • @alexroge6495
    @alexroge6495 Před 2 lety +8

    Now that you have a sawstop, you should get their sliding table thing. It looks like a awesome attachment if accurate

    • @bensonyoutuber7944
      @bensonyoutuber7944 Před 2 lety +2

      I agree, and that is my long term goal. Which is why I am not going to spend much on interim solutions. A shop built sled is good enough for me. Though I see the appeal of the product, and it will undoubtedly be the right solution for some.

  • @aaroncherman7629
    @aaroncherman7629 Před 2 lety +21

    I own one. It arrived a few weeks ago. I like it, for what it is. But, I don't think it's worth the cost. It's supposed to be "calibrated for square at the factory", mine was quite a bit out (relatively speaking). The extension is fairly loose in the main fence - poorly sized, like they just got "close" with the extrusion sizes readily available and went with that. I really like the Flop Stop. Would I buy this again? Probably not at this price point - after $90 shipping (cheapest option) and customs/duties to Canada, this was almost $500. 😵

  • @comsigninc
    @comsigninc Před 2 lety +1

    I have one, but haven't used it much yet. It worked great right out of the box.

  • @stevennachlas9596
    @stevennachlas9596 Před rokem

    Nice review as always! I have sent one of my guys an email at Woodpeckers asking him if the Flop Stop might be compatible with other miter gauges. I own the anchor 1000 HD and it looks like it might work with that. It might also work with my Kreg miter gauge or any miter gauge that has a TTrack on top. At the moment, Woodpeckers does not offer the Flop Stop as a standalone item, but if it works with other gauges, I think they should. I also recently bought the Woodpecker‘s Stealth Stop Miter Gauge which will not work with the Flop Stop. However that is also a nice miter gauge. I wasn’t considering that kind of money for the Exact 90, but you made some good points which are valuable. The fact that this thing is so effective in working with panels makes it very appealing to me and I may very well consider getting one. The longer bar, the two T-slot nuts, the miter slot springs and the flop stop are all great ideas.

  • @MCsCreations
    @MCsCreations Před 2 lety +2

    Pretty impressive tool indeed, Marc! 😃
    Fantastic review!!!
    Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊

  • @mek90703
    @mek90703 Před 2 lety

    Perfect summary of all Woodpeckers products. They are over-engineered and precisely built, and you are going to pay for that. I've never bought a Woodpeckers tool that I've regretted, but a lot of their tools are out of my price range. I would love to have the income to afford the Exact-90, but it's too much for a one trick pony. Your review DID make it tempting though, Marc!

  • @SeanFoushee
    @SeanFoushee Před 2 lety +1

    You nailed it on the reasons why I ended up swallowing the cost and buying one of these months ago. The panel cutting capacity along with the dead on calibration means I don't have to build a special panel cutting sled for projects, my cross cut sled can now be relegated to dado cuts, and I don't have to keep fiddling with my miter bar every few cuts to ensure it's still cutting 90º. Certainly not for everyone, but if you have the need its a homerun.

  • @dangeranger69
    @dangeranger69 Před 2 lety

    this is my favourite mitre gauge channel

  • @richardgarrow9260
    @richardgarrow9260 Před 2 lety

    HI Marc, I have enjoyed this review as I have been looking for a miter guage so thank you.

  • @buckmcdaniel8631
    @buckmcdaniel8631 Před 2 lety

    This is a very impressive tool. It may not be for my home (not that I couldn't use one, LOL), but if I had a business where I needed to cross-cut panels, it would pay for itself in a few cuts.
    Great review! Thank you again. I'm not in a market for a miter gauge, but you impressed me enough to catch and hold my attention in these reviews.
    Keep up the good work, Oh, and get something nice for that wife of yours for putting up with your purchases ;).

  • @aaronk255
    @aaronk255 Před 2 lety +1

    Great video. I already bought it but maybe I should have waited for the Stumpy Numbs rebuttal video. 😅

  • @mattelias721
    @mattelias721 Před 2 lety +2

    Good review, Marc. I liked that you pointed out that this is, from a point of view, a sled-less crosscut sled. I'd be interested in seeing you perform a 5-cut test on that to see how it does. Also, there's a headless figurine on your display wall... ? I believe I speak for all of us here by asking what the deal is with that.

  • @arthurgriffin1210
    @arthurgriffin1210 Před 2 lety

    Great demonstration.
    Thank you

  • @bryanhall9996
    @bryanhall9996 Před 2 lety +2

    Thanks for doing this review!

  • @ChrisHornberger
    @ChrisHornberger Před rokem

    I was unaware of this before seeing this video. I was skeptical. I loved your review and what you showed us. You nailed the reasons it exists (vs crosscut sled, etc). I'm ordering one. Thank you. This is exactly what I need 99% of the time, and without giving up 1/2 - 3/4 of an inch for the bed of a crosscut sled.

  • @chashint1
    @chashint1 Před 2 lety +1

    I only have a couple of Woodpeckers products, I like them and think the money was well spent.
    I like this product but the stainless steel squares are ahead of it on the wish list.
    Thanks for circling around and publishing this video.

  • @peterdavey8348
    @peterdavey8348 Před rokem

    Another excellent review, thanks.

  • @cedopetrina5053
    @cedopetrina5053 Před 2 lety +1

    Woodpecker’s customer service is excellent I’ve had a couple issues with things I got from them and they sent replacements out super fast no questions and I’m not even world famous 😉😁

  • @BW-cw4lq
    @BW-cw4lq Před 2 lety

    Great honest review.

  • @andrewbrown8148
    @andrewbrown8148 Před 2 lety

    Nice review, Marc. I have a soft spot for Woodpecker products and have many of their pieces. I saw this gauge when it came out and was impressed, but then equally depressed when I saw the price tag. Some of their products really hit the mark when seeing the demos, but the price-points are the make/break in determining if it makes it into my shop. (Real CPT Obvious statement thrown in for free) But back to your video, I love how you compared it's "one-trick pony" purpose to the piece that everyone DOES build from the start....a TS sled~! That was great~!!

  • @bestyoutubernonegraternumber1
    @bestyoutubernonegraternumber1 Před 10 měsíci

    This tool was most definitely a flex from woodpeckers that woodpeckers users will buy literally anything they make.

    • @brewtalityk
      @brewtalityk Před 2 měsíci

      have you ever seen their catalogue on their website? They make an absurd number of tools, and their meant for very many different types of customers. They even make router bits now, and at very competitive prices

  • @stevebincolo
    @stevebincolo Před 2 lety +1

    Nice job Marc. Keep it up.

  • @TravisKlein1
    @TravisKlein1 Před rokem

    thank you for this and full analysis

  • @stevengoulet3723
    @stevengoulet3723 Před 2 lety

    Great video Marc! Love the recent deep dives into all things miter fency.
    The question was asked "dunno if Woodpeckers customer service will be as good when the average person call ... ". Speaking as an average person, not in any business relationship with them at all, I can confirm their customer service is awesome. I had an issue with an order, not so much a product defect really, but more of an order gone awry because of a malfunction on their website. They were fantastic, got me fixed up better than I thought possible. Fantastic really.
    Only downside was that, as a result of their great service, I ended up buying more stuff from them... a lot more. I hate it when that happens.

  • @fleurdelune5240
    @fleurdelune5240 Před 2 lety +1

    Very thoughtful review. ❤

  • @TreeOfLifeWoodworking
    @TreeOfLifeWoodworking Před 2 lety +1

    Great video. I JUMPED on this product right when it was announced because of my frustrations of Incra 5000 going out of square quite frequently. Not getting rid of the Incra... but this is for sure my go-to for 90 cuts now

  • @wb_finewoodworking
    @wb_finewoodworking Před 2 lety

    Great review Marc. That’s something I’d love to have for my shop even though I have an Incra 3000 SE and a Miter Express that I use with it. Right now the cost is the only thing holding me back. Perhaps some time in the future I’ll be able to push one higher on my list of tools to buy for my shop.

  • @AdamMuhle
    @AdamMuhle Před 2 lety +1

    I completely agree with you perspective on Woodpeckers products. Their prices are pretty crazy, but the bar for quality they hold themselves too is also pretty amazing. And their niche solutions tend to be pretty amazing as well.

  • @bill40bates
    @bill40bates Před 2 lety +2

    That is very interesting. Most of my angled cut are made on my miter saw, so having a dedicated 90 degree would be nice. Now you got me thinking.

  • @DonsWoodies
    @DonsWoodies Před 2 lety +7

    Although I would never pay that price for something that did only one angle, have to admit there are aspects of it that are great ideas. I would LOVE if Incra would sell a longer miter bar for my 1000SE. Also, that flop stop thingy is a cool added feature. I would assume those nylon bushings can be replaced and the parts would be available. Not the "what, only 90° - worthless" thought I first had when seeing this product. Still, gotta win the lottery first. Thanks for a very informative video.

    • @jimkemerly6636
      @jimkemerly6636 Před 2 lety

      From what I see, if it says woodpeckers on it, I can't afford it, or won't spend that kind of hard earned $$$$.

  • @evasmith2712
    @evasmith2712 Před 2 lety

    Love Woodpeckers products. I have always had a great customer service experience with them.

  • @Blueridgedog
    @Blueridgedog Před 2 lety +1

    Please do a five cut test for square and report back.

  • @truckermelv
    @truckermelv Před 2 lety

    Mark, you always make me want to buy something you speak highly of !

  • @tomherer7068
    @tomherer7068 Před 2 lety +2

    With regard to the double washers keeping the miter bar in the track...went out to the shop and checked my Incra gauges, then researched a few other brands online. What I've seen thus far does indeed appear to confirm that the industry-standard practice is: just the tip.

  • @berniebne8243
    @berniebne8243 Před 2 lety

    I had a 12" saw with sliding table & fixed 90 degree gauge for over 25 years. I did most mitre cuts on a drop saw. I now have a sawstop with sliding table it rarely moves from 90 degrees. I still use the drop saw. I'm lucky in that I have access to a CNC router via an Australian organisation called the men's shed & can cut "templates" that I can place against the fence for precise angles. If a wanted say 11.25 it's spot on using the CNC. I can see this gauge being useful for a lot of people.

  • @11211lcb
    @11211lcb Před 2 lety

    I was an early adopter of this tool. The flop stop was not available when I ordered but luckily Woodpeckers included it when they shipped my unit. Good for them. BUT there is an inherent design issue with the flip stop. Check it for yourself. If you are using the sacrificial fence you move the flip stop to the front grove vs. the back groove. In that position it is some what difficult to "see" and set to the length that you want with it in the down position. You have to index it agains the small 1/16" marking on the front edge of the rule/fence. The easy solution is to raise the stop, flip it up, and then the stop rests across the entire rule/fence. And this is where the issue comes into play. When you flip the stop up it slightly moves closer to the blade, about 1/32". Flip it down and it moves away from the blade, about 1/32". So don't adjust the stop unless it is in the down position. Why does it do this? The flip is attached to a threaded rod that screws in and out when you move the stop up and down. Woodpecker was made aware but was not willing to make a change. I have an Incra 1000HD and I added the longer telescoping fence so that it's capacity is basically the same as this one. But the plastic rules tend to move and more than a few times this has caused problems for me. This Exact 90 should basically never need to be recalibrated once set up for a partucular saw. The Incra flip stop has to be recalibrated every time you adjust for increments less the 1/32".

  • @sergioaparicio957
    @sergioaparicio957 Před 2 lety

    Thanks!!! I am buying it right now!!!

  • @AndreaArzensek
    @AndreaArzensek Před 2 lety

    Woodpeckers stuff is always impressive, price and quality wise.
    Also I'm so thankful for owning a European sliding table saw.

  • @charlied7886
    @charlied7886 Před 2 lety +1

    Like others who've already commented, I really appreciate & enjoy the innovation as well as the problem-solving aspects that Woodpeckers employs into their offerings. Speaking for myself, I don't mind paying premium money for a premium American made tool that's designed to last a lifetime especially considering that as a long time professional I rely on these tools for their inherent accuracy & long-term cost savings in labor. My personal gripe is regarding not only Woodpeckers but many other hand tool companies & the amount of aluminum that is present in more & more current offerings. Aluminum is great for extruded fences & the like but is absolutely horrible for any hand tools deemed for high accuracy. Yes, it saves on costs & is good considering rust prevention but it also damages very easily turning your $300 tool into expensive paperweights.

  • @michaelvandergrift133
    @michaelvandergrift133 Před 2 lety

    have the original jesses miter and this one. both precisely serve a use in my shop.

  • @csimet
    @csimet Před 9 měsíci

    I have a version of that! It is my original miter gauge that came with the saw (vintage 1969 Craftsman 113)... I adapted the rail to fit the slot perfectly (now adjustable), locked it down to exactly 90 degrees and added an extra-long extended fence & stop block. Total cost...

  • @JoeK0322
    @JoeK0322 Před 2 lety

    Just ordered that puppy! Can’t wait to put it to use.

  • @hhanger1
    @hhanger1 Před 2 lety

    Marc, I got one recently, although I didn't spend nearly as much as you did, and it's the bee's knees. I seldom do miter cuts at the table saw so it's worth it. BTW, I also have the Incra 50000 for I when I need an angle. Best of both worlds.

  • @waynerutledge8802
    @waynerutledge8802 Před 2 lety

    Great video, very informative, as usual. Question, how wide can you go on the panel?

  • @charlesgibbins
    @charlesgibbins Před 2 lety

    I like it! I rarely cut angles with a miter gauge. Would work well in my shop

  • @harleywood9588
    @harleywood9588 Před 2 lety +1

    Nice review.

  • @jeffb5858
    @jeffb5858 Před 2 lety

    I bought one of these because I felt like my incra 5000HD sled was too heave to pull out for a couple of cuts, and I was avoiding using it. The flop stop really sold me on it. I will say, though, that using the flop stop on a 23.25" wide panel can be tricky. You have to engage the flop stop before backing the panel up, and if your saw blade is up, you wont be able to position your panel for the cut.
    To overcome that, when I need to cut a very wide panel using the length stop and flop stop:
    1. Lower blade all the way
    2. Set panel against length stop.
    3. Engage flop stop securely
    4. Pull panel back to clear blade.
    5. Raise the blade to cutting height.
    6. Cut the panel to length.

  • @MMWoodworking
    @MMWoodworking Před rokem

    There are a lot of features on this that I would love to see on others. I like the micro adjust to square it, and I would love that on others. I am a huge fan of the spring system, especially if they can be replaced if they did ever wear our. I will sometimes pass on really good products if they have no way to replace parts that may wear out.

  • @jayelwin
    @jayelwin Před 2 lety +1

    OMG that rack of parallel clamps!

  • @spencerbass7142
    @spencerbass7142 Před 2 lety

    Good review.

  • @abbylx
    @abbylx Před 2 lety +2

    Could you show storage solutions for the miter gauge. Tips on storing precision measuring equipments.

  • @ironwood1621
    @ironwood1621 Před 2 lety

    Very interesting product.

  • @Hatchmade
    @Hatchmade Před 2 lety

    The woody the woodpecker placement on the screen was gold. 😂

    • @woodwhisperer
      @woodwhisperer  Před 2 lety

      I'm glad someone finally commented on it. lol

  • @BeaulieuTodd
    @BeaulieuTodd Před 2 lety

    Have one. Love it. Don’t care about the price. I wanted a simple, smallish, lightweight gauge for quick cross cuts. I have the fancy incra, as well as the sled 5000. I have a tool addiction, for sure.

  • @robbyflair3552
    @robbyflair3552 Před 2 lety

    Very cool, thanks!

  • @chipsterb4946
    @chipsterb4946 Před 10 měsíci

    Woodpeckers customer service: I ordered a router table fence right before I had a bad farming accident in 2020 and hurt myself pretty seriously. Fast forward to a month ago - I finally opened the box, assembled the fence and couldn’t find the clear plastic bit guard. When I called Woodpeckers and explained, thinking a reasonable reaction would be “Sir, it’s been 3 years…” the lady on the phone couldn’t have been more pleasant. They sent me a replacement immediately free of charge.
    Yes their tools are expensive, but customer service like that is worth it IMHO. However, I’m not paying over $300 for a 90 degree miter gauge. Not even close.

  • @solowfrful
    @solowfrful Před 2 lety

    As a professional cabinet maker, I’ve found the Woodpecker line of tools to be quality, well designed, and expensive. With that said I’m a firm believer in “you get what you pay for”! I do purchase the ones that suit my needs. What I also like is that they are made in America, and are made from billet aluminum when other companies are using plastics and composites. One product I purchased was the coping sled, when it came out several years ago. It worked great and did so as expected. My only gripe with it was the base was made from HDPE, and would bend when you allowed too much clamping pressure. The result was some bad joints! To Woodpeckers credit, they redesigned it using an aluminum base. I like the fact they are willing to take a second look at a product trying to improve their tools. Every time they come out with a new “One Tine” tool, it’s worth a look. I wish their introductory pricing was better. Mark, I enjoy your videos! Keep up the great work and I appreciate your honest opinions.

  • @cheeseisgreat24
    @cheeseisgreat24 Před 2 lety

    Custom Cabinet makers with smaller floorplan shops will love that. After you’ve cut your sheet goods down into smaller sizes, that first 90 degree cut needed is such a pain if it’s off by more than a tiny bit. Having something that can lock in to that measurement and just always be there every single time you use it means you waste less on stupid errors.

  • @LutherBuilds
    @LutherBuilds Před 2 lety +3

    Something I rarely see talked about when it comes to miter guages is the ability to convert them into crosscut sleds. You can easily screw a 1/4 sheet of 3/4" plywood to this to make it more stable and functional. In that regard, it makes this a very attractive option. Once you add the plywood, you can turn it into a super Cross cut sled with t-tracks and hold downs that have the ability to cut 45's.

    • @Jeff-fs3rn
      @Jeff-fs3rn Před 2 lety

      NIce point, this is an impressive miter guage.

    • @11211lcb
      @11211lcb Před 2 lety +3

      For less money, about $180 you can get a Dubby crosscu8t sled that accurately sets up to cut miters.