The Key to Muscle Growth | Dorian Yates
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- čas přidán 10. 08. 2023
- Dorian Yates is a retired professional bodybuilder who is widely considered one of the greatest bodybuilders of all time.
Yates won the Mr. Olympia contest six times consecutively from 1992 to 1997.
To watch the full interview, click here: • Dorian Yates: Bodybuil... - Sport
Time under tension is a unintended consequence of intensity
I listened to a great podcast today with the men from starting strength. Basically they’re saying that it’s not possible to get big without getting strong. Dorian was a massive man and he was incredibly strong.
Having the right genetics definitely helps but Yate's use of a number of growth enhancing drugs enabled him to obtain the level of hypertrophy he developed. Just look at him, Zane, Arnold and numerous other top ranked bodybuilders who ceased using these drugs, and what you see are ordinary men who created an illusion primarily by the use of drugs!
What about the cleaner dude. Anatoly he should be way bigger.
Not really. Muscle size does not necessarily correlate with strength and Anatoly is an example of a man with lean muscular development who is extremely strong.
@@vinnygorg5006 What he mean is that muscle size and muscle strength are correlated to a certain extend, if you're training for pure hypertrophy and size, you will gain huge leap in strength as well, but that leap is not as much as when you train for pure strength, and vice versa. There is no one in this world who train for strength and doesn't gain size, but not Olympia size, you have to go through insane hypertrophy cycle to reach Olympia size, Anatoly's muscle are huge by normal people standard, also I heard he deadlifted 200kg in 1 year of training, so I think he either took some juice to aid early on, or has some top tier genetics.
Dorian’s lifting advice combined with Metzer’s will revolutionize your results. I’ve been training to intensity and I’ve gotten bigger faster than ever before
Dorians the Don ,scientific facts laid out to be the Champ you don't need to be in the Gym over an hour
You're right especially when inundated with muscle enhancing drugs.😂
Wisdom that is real wisdom
Thanks!
Lol
Well said!❤️🔥
Exact same thing I did 4 Day's of Training with a Max of one to one and a half hour ! I think the eating is the most important thing than comes training and than recovery !
do you also take plenty of steroids and human growth hormone that's the bit he forgot to mention your not getting anywhere near as big otherwise you can lift all the weights you want
People think just coz u stick abit ov juice in ya ur gona huge the average man ain't gona get no where the size he was without hard graft and dedication ain't no magic pill what does the work for ya
Dorian is 1 of the greatest!!! And he's such a humble guy unlike Arnold
Greatest what? User of muscle enhancing drugs? Do you think you would be so impressed by Yates or Arnold if they weren't using these muscle enhancing substances? You most probably would not!
Vinny is a beta
@@vinnygorg5006 cringe
@@johngoldsworthy7135 I think you have the definition of beta totally wrong.
GENIUS!
Intensity TOT and recovery is key
When a 1 minute video is more useful than videos up to half an hour long chatting absolute shite. Nice one Dorian
😂😂😂 lift all the weights you want for as long as want but what he forgot to mention is all the steroids human growth hormone he took to get that big. 1 minute video 😂😂😂 brilliant
@@yabbadondadda Mate I'm well aware of the drug use within bodybuilding. It doesn't mean those who take gear can't offer advice, just as long as you expectations are kept realistic. At least Dorian admits to the drug use, unlike many of the bullshitters online who give shit advice whilst simultaneously lying about what they take
Yes, they can offer advice but omitting the inordinate role drugs play in the development of their massive hypertrophy, dwarfs their training advice.
@@vinnygorg5006 I disagree. Everything he says in the video regarding the muscles simply growing as a reaction to stress, and the need to lift heavier and heavier to keep progressing etc is all true. He's honest about his drug use but this clip was just about training itself which applies to everyone whether they take drugs or not (results will obviously vary from person to person). He's not saying if you train like this you'll look like me, he's just explaining what actually causes muscles to grow from the training point of view.
However, would you be listening to his training advice had he not acquired his extreme muscle mass by artificial means? Obviously not because he would have been just another muscular guy in the gym.
Furthermore, lifting heavier and heavier does not guarantee more muscle mass in every trainee because evidenced based research shows that lifting lighter weights to or almost to failure results in the same level of muscle mass as heavier lifting, although with less strength development. The bottomline is that Yates. Arnold and other drug induced muscle giants' routines cannot be generalized to work for all or be appropriate for many. Routines need to be tailored to each trainee based on multiple factors.
Dorian Yates a great bodybuilder very smart man
Wonderful explanation
Really? What Yate's excludes in his one minute spiel is the major role muscle enhancing drugs played in his attaining such massive hypertrophy. Without it, his so-called high intensity workouts would have not resulted in such muscularity. End of story.
Regarding the training method espoused by Yates, or any other top bodybuilders, the primary driver in their attainment of massive hypertrophy is muscle enhancing drugs. These professional bodybuilders would gain inordinate amounts of muscularity with many forms of training, whether by ntensity and/or volume, as long as they took steroids and related drugs.
Everybody knows these guys take steroids. We don't need these guys to tell us their skin color to know what it just like we don't need them to tell us they take steroids. It's all the other stuff that contributes to muscle growth without it that people want to hear about. They all take so the question is what's the best methods outside of taking it because they don't all reach the same size with just steroids
Sorry friend, but regardless of the training program these professionals use, they will gain inordinate levels of muscle mass if on muscle enhancing drugs.
@@vinnygorg5006 yeah we all know that. You're not breaking new ground by saying that. The discussion is about the other stuff that optimizes muscle growth outside of steroids. People who take steroids still try to find better ways to build muscle with them the same way people who don't take them find out as well. None of these guys say they didn't take steroids it's like saying water is wet. What people don't know is how much water to drink or what type of water is best for you. That's what the discussion about training and diet optimization is for. You're just going around stating the obvious and aren't changing any perspectives
Perhaps not changing your
perspective but perhaps many others.
What you don't understand is that the exercise regimens used by such drug induced muscle monsters such as Yates, Arnold, and many others is that their training routines are nothing unusual, cannot be generalized to many weight trainees for reasons such as very different genetic types and body structures, and are therefore misleading them to believe that by following their advice, they too will make phenomenal hypertrophic muscular gains. Nothing is further from the truth.
The reason muscle magazines have these drug induced monsters on the covers of their magazines, and have them provide their training routines, is to induce sales of their magazines and supplements by naive trainees who believe that by following these guys' routines and taking over the counter supplements, they too will attain the same muscular results. Unfortunately without using muscle enhancing drugs this will not occur. End of story.
@@vinnygorg5006 again everyone knows they won't get as big as these guys without steroids. They all take steroids, their training regiments vary, that's what's being discussed and that's what people are curious about
The problem is when you plateau at a certain weight. I was told by someone to try periodization. Go back down and do lighter weight and higher volume. I lowered the weight and went back up slowly. First 12 rep range the more weight then 10 the 8 or 6.
It’s especially tough if you don’t have a spotting partner either.
Exactly. How can you progressively overload without a spotter/Training partner?
I just workout to complete failure. Alone
How do these guys say what they say with a straight face? 🙁😒
The major problem in not giving credit to the major driver underlying their musculature attainment, drugs, is that they mislead countless numbers of weight trainees that they too can obtain such extreme levels of hypertrophy by following their training regimens.
Time under tension.
Can you progressively overload when you workout alone?
I can only workout to failure. I see many people have someone to give them that Extra push or pull to achieve progressive overload.
But can that be achieved working out solo?
Yes, go close to failure 1-2 reps in the tank. Take 5 seconds rest then go another 1-2 reps. Repeat until you're giving it 95% max
Thats where the machines come in
@@viihuman4416 I'm a beginner , casual gym attendee and I use machines and always end the last set to failure ....how I do that is once I can no longer do a rep at my ' normal weight ' I lower the weight fail , lower the weight again to failure .....could be all wrong but I walk out the gym feeling I did something that made me turn up worthwhile 🤓
Drop sets
Some people go to failure and lower 20% weight and go again to failure, very similar and no need for help
10 reps 10 sets. By the 6th rep u should be struggling to get the last 4 up with a spotter. Your rest between each set is spotting your partner.
Yep but I train alone at home but you are correct
The most important part of information in this interview was edited out
He's saying very high weight lower preps
So pretty much workout for an hour?
If that 1 minute video too hard to understand, I'd just give up 🤡
Are you kidding? Without the use of muscle enhancing substances, Yates would have merely been just another trainee in the gym, although perhaps somewhat more muscular than some.
@@vinnygorg5006 dude I'm trying to understand but you coming at me with all this words 🤦🏽♂️ break it down for me to understand please 🥹🙏🏽
Its true but he doesn't mention the steriods
Of course not! If not for steroids and other muscle enhancing substances, Yates may have developed a strong physique but absolutely not to the distorted degree he attained.
That's a given with these guys. We all know steroids make you bigger it's the other factors that people are curious about
No my friend, steroids don't merely make you "bigger", they are critical to developing massive muscular bulk!
@@vinnygorg5006 Not his fault , bodybuilding should do like other elite sports drug control.
And all he says is true but you also have tendons/joints to think about
What he says may be true for some trainees but not many others. However your point about issues with tendons snd joints is right on target.
Why though !?
The key to Mr Olympia is steroids + discipline, and supplements. 🤣
I thought he was an americain
I thought he was eastern European
According to him he was an English Skinhead.
You cant beat old school........time of supplements infiniti 1700 & 3000.....also Great Stuff....
Back in the 90s would be in awe of all these guys, Arnie, Labrada, Yates.....many.
Truth is, to look like that comes down to food, exercise, sleep......and the roids........definitely the roids.
Primarily ROIDS and other muscle enhancing drugs! Food and sleep have little to do with the development of such massive hypertrophy.
@@vinnygorg5006the body needs to recover. That's a fact. Roids speed up the recovery efforts.
It's obvious that the body needs to recover but the bottomline is that without steroids, growth hormone and other drugs no way would Yates have developed such massive hypertrophy.
Hmmmm , According to Schwarzenegger the key to muscle growth is SUPPLEMENTS! ( (He says it with a subtle grin and a wink)
In other words can you say STEROIDS!! 😂
All that stuff he said and steroids
he forgot to mention the huge amounts of steroids he took to get that big, you can lift all the weights you want for as long as you want but you don't get that big without the juice human growth hormone just making himself look very stupid
He thinks fans are stupid at that level it's all about the gear.
@@tonyquinlan7341100% they like to try and make every think it's all their hard work they got so big they been all been telling the lie so long they seem think the more they say it the more they themselves and everyone else believes it
@@tonyquinlan7341I think you might be the stupid one if you think nobody knows these guys took steroids.. pretty sure everyone knew that pal 😭