Why you DO NOT need to do Squats!? | Dorian Yates Shares
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- As an aspiring bodybuilder, Dorian “the Shadow” Yates never thought he’d compete at the level of Arnold Schwarzenegger, Lee Haney, Frank Zane, and other Mr. Olympia winners.
That attitude soon changed with his monumental success.
Dorian won Mr. Olympia six consecutive times. He changed the bodybuilding industry forever with his physique and insane workouts.
Tune in to this episode and listen to his unbelievable story. You don't have to be a bodybuilder to learn something from this guy.
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Everybody is an expert. I'll listen to the guy that won 6 Olympia's.
Or you can listen to the guys who saw what he did wrong and learn from them. Learn from science and understand how your entire body works.
You could also learn the massive amounts of molecules that goes in and out of your body. As well as health of every single inch of the things that make you lift: from muscles, tendons, joints, to even ligaments.
You could do that. Or listen to a meathead. But hes indeed right... Do not put weight on top of your back, it compress your spine. But if you needed a Mr.Olympia to tell you that, you won't go very, very far in life.
Not everyone feels the need to compete. Lol
There are plenty of experts with very different approaches. If you just listen to one of them you won't get far.
By that logic you should listen to the guy that won 8 Olympia’s.
Bodybuilding is a horrible sport for your physical, mental, and spiritual well-being. You better think long and hard before taking advice from someone who’s only background is from this sport.
Funny how so many people can’t devote time and effort to going to the gym, yet they’ve got regular weekly hours for Netflix marathons... Well, it’s a matter of priorities.
Yeah, I watch only a fraction of TV but train more frequently now
They just don’t really care. Not everyone wants to be more jacked or leaner. And they don’t care to put forth the effort for any health benefits either
Are you of the opinion that everyone’s priority should be to work out? That’s weird
Spending lots of time working out is a potential sign of psychological issues
@@benham3124 every person should exercise a bit. The benefits for combating muscle wasting are immense. You can reap those benefits with just resistance training once or twice a week. Still people choose not to do so.
How can you not love this guy? Nothing better than hearing someone who has deeply assessed experience.
@@davesmith3023 just some guy trying to sound smart
@@davesmith3023 What's funny is I initially misread it as "amassed". Yeah assessed is weird. Lol
Rate him highly, however he doesn’t believe that the holocaust really happened lol like come on Dorian
@@cvdvdfhgh4946 Love Dorian unfortunately he's been listening to David icke to much 😩
@@andreachapman5251 icke has actually turned out to be right about a lot of things.
Do your squats just don’t worry about the numbers. Go deep, perfect form slow and controlled. Gets all the benefit with lighter weights and almost none of the injury risks. People just get stuck on numbers too much, there’s nothing wrong with staying with the same weight and mastering it than to having to try and go up in weight.
EXACTLY, MOST PEOPLE CAN MOVE THE WEIGHT BUT THEY CAN'T CONTROL THE WEIGHT! BIG DIFFERENCE!
Going heavy never worked well for mass
@@Dr.WhetFarts 100% Agreed for me. I did heavy (for me) squats for the first 4 years of my training experience and my legs didn't grow at all. I had to stop because my scoliosis developed to a point that BB squats were too painful for my back. Instead of giving up, I said f*** it and trained my own way. Goblet squats with 15kg, done for cardio like a marathon not a sprint. 10 sets of 15 reps, strict 60 second rest. 2-3 times a week. My legs blew up, grew much more in 3 months of doing that than the previous 4 years of heavy BB squats twice a week. My mates were blown away at my legs.
Heavy works well for pressing exercises imo, but everything else the muscles grow so much faster and bigger doing higher reps. It also is far less taxing on your CNS which allows far greater recovery.
So true. This goes for any compound lift too. Lower the weight, perfect form, slow down and do higher reps
Not to mention saving your tendons and soaring your from higher risk of hernia
Dorian Yates is a really smart, wise, knowledgeable guy. I could listen to him talk all day long.
Experience coupled with honesty always has an undeniable value.
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Yup! True. You should see what he has to say about the holoc**st
However keep in mind all the gains of all these guys are highly influenced by the amount of juices they are under for .i mean advices and knowledge based on his experience is highly biased in the way their body respond to tons of chemical they were taking
@Mauricio Alarcon Unquestionably 100%. I'm my younger years and even dumber than I am now, I tried to follow the lifting advice of the other pros and just got hurt about 2-3 months into it everytime.
Dorian continues to offer some of the most cogent insights into physical fitness and bodybuilding that can be found. Extremely grateful for his contributions to both the sport and discourse.
I agree, he does have a thickkk caulk. I bet you want to try saulking that hammer after getting analFaulked and it's feces-covered.
A masterclass from a humble, articulate, knowledgable and hugely experienced man who has always challenged the status quo - lessons for life
Guy is the definition of integrity, what a Legend.
When Dorian Yates speaks, the information is priceless
Love hearing Dorian emphasize, “No fucking phone”!!!!❤ Should be broadcast throughout gym’s everywhere!!!
yeah ban phones from gyms and watch the serous ppl become beasts and the weak leave!
When Dorian shares training tips, it's best to listen. Thank you for sharing!
Dorian is to me to greatest bodybuilder ever. Not because of his Mr. Olympia titles but because he was smart and wasn't affraide to implement something new in his training lik HIT training and used it to become champions. Yet more impressive is that the understands what kind of a damage professional bodyduilding is doing to your body.and made good decisions at right time in order to switch priorities in his life and keep having healthy and normal life after his carrer, which can't be said for many bodybuilding legends...
I agree! Dorian figured it all out him self threw trial and error
EXACTLY! Dorian was a scientist of his own body and did things his way and still continues to.
I would say he and Mentzer are the greatest Bodybuilders ever in that aspect
I disagree. His body wasn't aestetically pleasing. In my opinion he introduced the big gut.. wide waist era. He was BIG. It more about the gear than the look. I agree he's very smart.. but he introduced very unhealthy bodybuilding standards. I like who he is now.
@@spittfyre365 yup... it seems all these gear heads become gurus after they destroy themselves and after they influenced so many to do the same. Once they start realizing their death is near because of the abuse of PEDs they all of a sudden decide to become "healthy".
"Not one way works the same for everyone. Some people can grow with less weight and more frequency, while others require more weight and fewer reps. Some recover faster, while others recover slower. Try variations, and you will find out what works best for you. It is not advisable to identify with only one approach just because a successful person said so."
Ive been aware of Dorian Yates for quite some time, but I just recently started listening to him. Very intelligent man. He leaves out the ego and the bravado that I see with a lot of other body builders. He sticks to what works.
Very informative.
Dorian Yates is the real G in bodybuilding.
Yes true!!
I love listening to Dorian. He's so intelligent experienced in his craft - yeah, bodybuilding is basically crafting your body, and most of all he's just extremely accurate, there's literally not a single unnecessary word in his advice. I've been working out recreationally all my life and I have had some good results but I've noticed that the progress has slowed down a bit so now I will do exactly everything Dorain has said: negative moves, HIT method, Arthur Jones' book has been ordered and is on it's way :-) I'm super excited. Last few months I have had amazing results but I can clearly see it has slowed down, so that's the moment to apply all of those advices. My main goal is strength, I'm very happy with my current body weight, initially I gave myself a goal to reach 20 full reps of wide grip pull-ups and it's just going slow, I'm now at 13 proper ones full drop full stretch. I can see ot would take me the rest of the year to get there if I followed my own method. Now I want to achieve that in the next 6 weeks. Arthur Jones+ Dorian= knowledge! Honestly just listen carefully, this man is wise, he knows the core of this craft.
Yates gived the absolute best advice
Dorian Yates has me set. I’ve been filming my entire workouts since Jan 1, 2023 and have posted every single one on my channel and the feedback I am able to gather watching myself has been incredible, it’s similar to Dorian documenting on paper but I’ve been filming my every workout. Thank Dorian!
Dorian always tellng it like it is
excellent philosophy...i always try to explain that to people. You don't need time you need consistency
A lot of knowledge in this short video. Thank you!
Spot on! I also find yoga (and stretching in general) useful to counteract the loss of mobility from strict weight training.
Trying to make the Olympic lifts some portion of your workout regimen really helps with mobility, because the lifts require and improve it. Clean, Snatch, Overhead Press in a way that requires thoracic and shoulder mobility, and front squat, and you’ll feel way more athletic and flexible
I am the rare guy who lifts as an adjunct to yoga rather than the other way around and I've learned to be very disciplined about stretching immediately after lifting even if I'm tired and don't wanna.
never really heardf of dorian till 91 his first mr olympia i was in australia at the time , had my own multigym in my garage i read lots of articles about body building since 1984 ,,,and had trained as often as i could ,,,i have a light frame at 5 ft 10 ,,and around 175 but was muscular with wide shoulders and small waist istarted following what dorian was saying and using it ,,,,,,jesus the next day i couldnt move ,,,,it felt strange not training but i resisted till all the soreness was gone my god my strength increased so much ,,,my body weight went from 175 to 215 within 7 months this training if you want to be bigger is the best way to be bigger and stronger i am a similar age to dorian and stopped training in 97 ,,,,,this guy is the goat and needs listenin to ..
Great Knowledge Sir Dorian Yates .
Best interview ,many great questions .
Master Bodybuilder .
Mr Olympia so many times .
Best back in the History ,thick back .
Sir Dorian trained the back from every angle .
I am so happy for Dorian that he found training he is doing and feeling great about .
It takes allot of courage and disciplin to find new training . To do training that is best for the person , training that will give energy , tailormade training is the best .
And to be content with the training that is best suited for the person .
I wish Sir Dorian a Great Training year , to do cardio biking outside , to do intervall training on the assault bike , to do training that tjej Body likes and the joints , swimming ,Ir Sauna , Stretching in Sauna , seeing walking and seeing the landscape .
Much Love from Abel Zorin from Sweden
Give it a rest you twat. Sir dorian😂
Always a pleasure to listen to the professor of body building talk!
So glad I came across this clip and now channel! To hear the legend Dorian speak about how less is more is absolutely re assuring! New subscriber here fella! I look forward to your content 🙏🏼
I have trained twice a week for years with HIT and have had fantastic results. Less is more as they say. It hurts like hell but then I'm not in the gym for long. Great advice from Dorian.
@@lockdowng112 I train twice a week Chest, shoulders and triceps one day legs back and biceps on the other. I use the tricon techniques that you can find here on youtube on the Live Anabolic channel and I swear by them. A good warm up set and then two tricon sets for each of the body parts i.e leg press, thigh extensions, calf press, lat pull down, horizontal row and two biceps exercises one with dumbells and the other with a cable machine and straight bar. The same routine for chest, shoulders and triceps. The strictest form no swinging the weight up or cheating in the reps! Like the man says you don't need a lot of weight and believe me if you are doing it right you do not. Sometimes I use dumbells other times a smith machine for chest bench press and overhead press. The tricon technique can be adapted for any equipment. Give it a try for a couple of months and you will see the results. Max time in the gym maybe 30 to 40 minutes and plenty of rest between workouts. Cheers
More is more. Less is less lol
@@lockdowng112 The King is Mike Mentzer who taught Yates. Check out his book: High-Intensity training the Mike Mentzer way. If you want to seriously get into real good shape and look like a bodybuilder to a degree, do CrossFit.
He says in the video he's doing it another way...how?
What's the alternative for squats?
Jeez, that was the only info I was looking for and he doesn't say.
@@gudgurl That's what I'm wondering too! I'm 68 and my hip and knee are giving me problems. WAH! I love doing squats with a heavy weight but my body doesn't.
Loved Dorian talking about variable recovery here. I was able to get my max deadlift from 535 to 605 in under a year by limiting my deadlift to once or twice a month. I’m not sure that same strategy would have worked when I was younger, but did when I was older!
DY is the King!!
I’ve added a rep(s) to my deadlift every session. Every 12-15 days.
If that strategy works when you're older, it would work even better when you were younger if you could actually stick to it. I'm not sure how you're not sure about that.
@@dmacrolens I’m not sure why you’re not sure about me being not sure, but it sure seems to be a “you” problem because “I” hit my deadlift PR target 😎
Probably one of the best interviews with Dorian ever, thanks bro
Thank you and great video. Really liked Dorian’s contradictory views and applying logic. Validated all my feeling of mobility, movement and now yoga as you get older.
intense, brief and infreqent..... all hail king mentzer
Lifelong fan of Dorian, very honest ….. top 3 all time imo .
Other two are the ones that did it naturally, Simeon Panda and Mike O’Hearn.
Always like to listen to this man! His demeanor displays honesty!
listening to dorian, i can hear and see mike mentzer wright next to him, dorian was taught well. in the early 1990's i had the great pleasure to get to know mike and was educated very well on theory and practical application. never met anyone smarter .....miss them days
Been following his advice for the past 6 months. Made more gains in 6 months than I did in 5 years. Not kidding or exaggerating either. My legs are now huge from training smith machine lunges and hack squats to total failure. One time a week. If my recovery is exceptionally good, I will throw in RDL’s as well the following time. I have made a PR every workout. As well as gained weight and shown meaningful improvements in the mirror almost weekly with no slowing down. If anything the gains keep coming faster because now I’m doing more intense work lifting heavier weights. Really breaking into the upper intermediate level and looking and feeling awesome. Plus old injuries are now no longer holding me back. And I didn’t have to spend hours doing prehab and rehab drills and exercises. I literally just trained all the major muscles to failure in a balanced way. I still have a ways to go but will be updating my progress on here as well as starting my own channel to show my progress
congrats to you! Are you going to the gym 3 times week for a complete body workout? How many reps sets?
what does a typical leg work out for you look like?
I do an upper lower split 3 times a week on Monday/Wed/Fr. I do U/L/U then L/U/L the next week. Rotating back and forth weekly for a total of 6 upper workouts and 6 lower workouts a month. A typical leg workout for me is a warmup of 10 minutes stationary bike, followed by 20 bodyweight squats done with a slow tempo superset with various leg raises. Then I just do 1 set x amrap on smith lunges, 1 set x amrap on hack squat, 1 x amrap on RDL, and 1 sex x amrap seated calve raises superset with adductor machine. That’s it
@@WildmanWalters nice man- i like it- and youre seeing great gains w/ this program?
Why SMlunges vs SMsquats?
Dorian is the real deal with NO BS. Him and Mike were my favorites.
which mike?
@@liveaxll5751Michael Jordan
I remember Dorian in his pomp back in the early 90s, never realised back then there was so much depth to the bloke, serious respect for the man 👌
It’s like a sea of knowledge with this guy. When he speaks I listen.
I could listen to Dorian all day. This interview should be a requirement for every newbie walking into a gym!!
But they hear him tho
Absolutely love hearing about this. I have always struggled with my mobility, and hearing Dorian go through the same experience is very sobering.
Tom Platz screaming, yelling and stress-squatting rn
This dude is brilliant. Everything he says has worked for me so far.
Absolute genius of the sport, just like Tom Platz.
I can barely do 155 with squats because of arthritis. But with the inverted leg press I'm doing 8 sets of 8 with 500 and growing. Of course I realize that I'm not getting the full benefit of squats by working the full chain but I'm getting the results I want on legs.
How can you not do squats with more than 155lbs, yet leg press 500lbs for reps with arthritis. You must have very limited ROM on leg press
@@Matthew-rc1xt No, my range of motion on squats are crap but leg press I can get all the way down. I think it has to do with my spine and hips. On the leg press all the weight is is limited to the hips while with squats all the weight is way up high on the shoulders.
I'll have to try doing some squats and see what I can get up to nowadays; maybe it has gotten better.
@@thunkjunk Has to be a form issue. I don’t see why having bad arthritis would prevent you from squatting when you are doing 500lbs on leg press. Regardless if you’re making gains then no need to change things
@@Matthew-rc1xt He's right, the point of leg machine is to unload the spine. Which can be a limiting factor. We can't really cause hypertrophy for cartilage and spinal structure.
@@Matthew-rc1xt It is possibly form because I have arthritis, yes. I'm not very limber especially my spine and hips.
But yes, I posted to help show that I'm getting gains in legs without squats.
Love listening to Dorian Yates. Such a down to earth and knowledgeable guy who doesn't say crazy sh%t all the time.
I love how he's transformed himself so inspiring
I'm in my late 40's. I used to bodybuild back in the day (late 90's). What i noticed for me on legs (being a small dude)... squats were hard INITIALLY... but once i started leg pressing and doing hack squats and stiff legged dead lifts.... squats came along quick. I also did leg extensions and leg curls but what made the biggest difference was the leg press of course.
I found the same thing worked for me. I assume it's because it's sketchy and dangerous to try and get the last rep on squats but on other movements and machines you can go really close to failure and not risk hurting yourself
@@privard89 Well even if you have a spotter on squats, you're typically wearing a belt and you're just using so many other supporting muscles for balance ... and your back for the weight... core...
With leg press you can really put 100% into your legs pushing that weight up and even use your hands to spot yourself.
Think about how hard it can be to breath squatting with that belt on. It can be brutal.
The greatest and healthiest retired bodybuilders are the ones that dropped their egos and picked up HUMILITY. I think Dorian and Lee Haney are by far the best at this.
Woow.. excellent teacher. Really breaks it down
How to grow muscle, recovery etc.
The beauty of bodybuilding is that everyone is forever a student. Age and body mechanics say so. Just find what exactly works for you be adaptable and wise for the long term.
I actually enjoy squatting now. Took me years of trial and error to finally nail it down. High bar, low bar ect mastering the breathing also being a key aspect. I find one of the most daunting sets of any exercise I do is my last one on squat days. I don’t do a lot of weight maybe 90KG - 100Kg and I try do 20 reps occasionally stopping to breath between reps. Honestly from 10 reps onwards it’s battle of mind over matter but the feeling at the end once you accomplish it is very rewarding and I’ve seen great results from it plus it’s also a cardiovascular test too. It’s true what Tom Platz says that when you think you’re done, you always have 5 more reps in the tank.
Propably going to start doing 20 reps too. 5-10 reps hurts so fucking much and I keep regressing but maby working my way up from 70kg for 20 reps to 100kg would build my legs finally.
@@mikakoivisto6504 I think it would. It's helped me certainly hit some PR's on the days I do try go heavier. It's just that mental aspect of not racking the bar when you are 10-15 reps in and everything is burning and telling you to stop. It's a good feeling of accomplishment when you reach that 20th rep
Yeah , im kind of the opposite. I stopped squating and switched to belt sqauts with a bar in front to hold onto so i could get very deep . It def is mind over matter .
I hit continuous rep failure at 6 reps, then take 5 secs rest between reps and can get another two reps , then take 10 secs rest between reps and get another two reps and quit at 10 reps but im sure if i could just muster the intensity and take 15 secs between reps i could get to 12 reps but havent had the balls to do it yet
I don’t squat at all.. I can’t, I’ve had major back issues and multiple surgeries.. Spinal fusion and a spinal artificial disc replacement. It’s frustrating, but I train for longevity, I don’t want to hurt myself and then cannot train at all.. I’m also 51, so it’s all good. I still train Monday-Friday 😊🤙🏽
Great interview!
Awesome info Dorian!! Thank you!!
Modulating intensity (on both a macro and micro scale) is how I went from "barely being able to jog" to running 20 km everyday. It only took a few months to build up to that. The human body is incredible. And, the body doesn't respond as quickly when you're older, but it definitely responds
Why would you run20km a day? That’s too much!
@@arnoldjenkins5455 "too much" is relative
Running is probably the worse exercise you can do it knackered my body it's really bad for you
@@reckonerstar9172 how so?
@@thomasmnewman96 look it up look up how much weight gets put on your ankles with each stride look at how it effects your knees hips and spine then come back and msg me again
I’ve torn a glute, pulled a groin tendon right off the bone, and had a few back sprains trying to get heavy working sets on squats. Not even prs. I’m 41 and while the squat is one of the kings, as I’ve gotten older I’ve had the most setbacks from that one movement. Connective tissues just don’t want to act right but when I’m able I always go back to them because they feel good if you can do them but I’d probably get way more volume in with hacks/leg press over time with less injuries. It is what it is.
Research about Doug Brignole,he explain, with science what exercises are best for each body part, ..,science base
High volume, light weight (like 15-20kg) goblet squats will still net great muscular size results without destroying your body. In fact it's even a form of active recovery.
@@Klyttorius Bet. I’ve yet to do any free weight movements but I love goblets. Was using them as a finisher before the injury but def agree on their general effectiveness.
I love his personality...humble and confident
Excellent TY!
I noticed that the times that I only workout 3x a week vs 4 or 5, I get better results. I don't typically do HIIT training, but I do use progressive overload and as much weight as I can handle that particular day, at high volume or to failure. I don't spend a long time in the gym unless it's packed and I have to wait for certain machines to free up or I'm doing cardio afterwards.
I'm going to try HIIT and see if I can get even better results. I keep hearing people talk about how effective it is and mention Mike Mentzer, but I kind of just brushed it off as old school bro science.
For me once a week works well
I tried Yoga once, but need to revisit it.
I'm into Mountain Biking too, which I love probably more than the Gym!...LOL.
I also do a lot of stretching and flexibility work these days being 51 now....Where does the time go?!..LOL.
Dorian is known for not Squatting, I'm wondering what he thinks of unilateral training, specifically the Bulgarian Split Squat. I find this exercise more beneficial because you do have to work on coordination/balance too and obviously addresses imbalances. I workout at home and use this exercise more than goblet squats. A bonus is that it elevates my leg power in climbing when I mountain bike. I do notice some added power especially when I have to do short punchy climbs. So it also is a more athletic-centric (for lack of a better word!) exercise!
My quads blew up more from cycling than weight training. I’m sure the sprints and hill climbing played major roles in it.
This is a great video. Good settings too. Dorian is a very intelligent dude
Enjoyed the interview. Entirely agree with Dorian Yates when he says about the little time required for training - if the intensity is there.
I went from training 5 times a week to 3 times and my results were a lot better and I was recovering and feeling a lot better
Full body workouts?
@@londonfightfan8697 chest and back arms legs
Same. I was religiously going 4x per week, but 3 is the sweet spot for me. I do A B A, B A B. Works very well for me.
@@ChrisS-nj3ye Same here, then I swim 35lengths on the days off , great for cardio and shoulders ..
Missing way too many variables to collect any data from this assessment
What he says about the air bike is so true. I do 10 hard minutes 2 to 3 times a week. I hate it, it's brutal but totally effective.
Love this honest truth about training and gym life.
Great interview and insights.
After a few years of getting a foundation in the gym, I switched to his style because of my work schedule, and the improvements are massive. I can train much harder, get my recovery, track progress, focus on my weaknesses, and stimulate growth regularly. It’s wild once you get it down and modify it correctly
Can you be more precise on what your training routine looks like? Thank you.
Don’t forget his body is quite knackered. Also it wasn’t always just apple juice
I see a lot of people struggling with the squat in the comments, for genuine reasons. And people jump in telling them to spend time re-learning squats, stretching, all the different variations. But why? If squats don’t work for someone, why force it? Why spend hours more every week just to force yourself to squat? It’s just one exercise. Chill out. You’ve got mr Olympia here saying he did not need the squat.
Because it's one of the best exercises, duh
Because for some reason people get triggered by people doing a different workout than them.
Fantastic advise thank you
This made so much sense, I've been struggling for a long time and it took 15 minutes to understand the simplicity of building muscle.
The legendary Yates.
Smart man, doesn't bang his head against the wall he finds a way to navigate his barriers and outmaneuver whatever stands in his way.
Bodybuilding philosopher.
Exactly the kind of ppl the world could use right now.
Well said
I started doing squats a couple of years ago with no problems, as my strength increased and I added more weight I started to get lower back injuries/strains. This was obviously due to poor form, I swapped the back squat for the front squat and I now experience no problems
Iam an expert also, front squats put less stress on your spine and Isolates your quads more efficiently!
@@George-zd6rbYou are an expert ?😅
@@michelrood2966 go ahead, ask me!
Not obviously poor form. Squats ARE hard on the low back
I only do front squats too now. I really don't care how much weight I can lift. All I care about is getting stronger safely. Back injuries are miserable
Dorian Yates is one of the most charismatic Mr. Olympias. Very impressive presentation and interview.
Great advice in and out, love working out but there is life outside the gym.
He's always bang on the money is Dorian
Not always buddy, Dorian doesn't believe in the Holocaust.
Say it isn't so
@@jakk221 If somebody can get something so obviously wrong, then he must be a bit thick in the head, do you not agree?
SQUATTING is very hard.....no such thing as a light SQUAT........very hard, very technical (for some), and very rewarding when done correctly. CHEERS MR. Yates 🇬🇧💪♥️🏋️♂️🤘🤘
Please call us when you will be 60 with your entire back, knees and hips ruined, while all the non squatters will be standing up and still looking like muscle freaks.
"No such thing as light squat to hurt yourself!!!"
@@BeneDiv-lu4gx I'm 55 and feel pretty good......oh forgot to mention....I POWERLIFT.
@@christopherseat9871 For now. But indeed the fact that you powerlift negates everything I said. You want numbers, not health.
@@BeneDiv-lu4gx I'm very healthy and cautious. Thankyou. Have a wonderful WEEKEND
@@christopherseat9871 You worship an exercise that will only destroy your body. This is an injury cult. You need to get out of it before you inflict a lifelong back injury on yourself.
Dorian was my hero back when he was on top. I was lucky to be a young guy then and I used his principles. They do work. I still use them today, but with more caution as I am older.
Dorian inspires me , I like his style fast paced, this is how I apply my self with my clients.
Try kettle bells you won’t get big but you will get a great cardio work.Also you get in shape
I'm 54 yrs old and been training since 15. Dorians style of training is great but only in small occasional spurts... especially when you get older. Look at Dexter Jackson and Robby Robinson, They are still training with no injuries. They train with moderate/high volume and moderate weights. We have limits and training "all out" over time will tear down the integrity of the bodies soft tissue, joints, tendons etc
Duh, he clearly said this was doing his “Olympia” training, u people can never understand an interview and always want to put your “expert” spin on it , just shut up and lift
I'm 43 and have been training since I was 18. I found that out the hard way
Your body is like any other machine. The more hours/miles you put on it will eventually wear out.
@@chrissullivan40 Awesome Analogy Thanks for posting.
@2:00. I have a strength training background. I always felt stiff and immobile, and I felt like my ROM was holding me back. I recently started taking yoga routines seriously. I relate a lot to what he’s saying here.
Brilliant…Especially the point about not taking your phone in the gym…👍
I'll be 52 in September of this year. I lift every day. I take a day off once in a while. I feel like a get the best results when I am on that old-school Arnold program. I follow something between the beginner and the intermediate program in terms of split. I am no pro, but I feel like I have fantastic results when I follow Arnonld's programs. I gain weight, I look and feel good, and people turn their heads a lot before I even get my pump started. Consistency seems to be my best friend as opposed to this program or that program. I might consider trying these 3 day-or 4-day "splits" but when I did them before, I couldn't keep them up because I wasn't getting enough physical or psychological situmulation. Also when I go so seldom, it increases my chances of missing days because on my days off, I kind of lose that mental edge that I have when I go every day. Well... everyone is different, so I should be careful about changing what "ain't broke" because of something I hear on the Internet.
If you haven't listened to Mind Pump, I'd highly recommend getting into some of their podcasts/YT videos. Debatably one of the best fitness sources out there, and they speak a lot about working out 2-3 days a week, full body (which is one of the many topics they cover). And as always, everyone is different, depends on age, and as you say: consistency is king.
@@magicalmotivationman Ok. Thank you. I will check it out. I just recently started doing full body everyday. Maybe I could limit this workout to 3 or 4 times per week. Sound like I’m approaching that “magic podcast formula”.
Agreed on the intensity/HIIT views and would note that even most who claim to do 'high volume' etc are only getting a few very high quality sets in and basically wasting the rest of the work/time. Functionally, you're doing a high intensity workout with garbage sets that wear out your nervous system and fatigue your mind and motivation. For 'older' people, myself included, I've altered my workouts to include some more volume because intensity becomes more dangerous from a risk/benefit perspective. Going to absolute failure in your 40/50's is vastly different than in your 20/30's and I can't justify the risks. I give up the potential growth for the higher safety of a more measured approach.
sounds like you know a lot on the subject- interesting comment. so what kind of approach would you think is reasonable for someone in their 30s that's looking to maintain muscle w/ proper diet etc
@@supernice_auto Maintaining implies you're basically satisfied with where you are and just want to keep what you've built. It really depends on what you're looking for. A little more size, polishing the size you have, symmetry, athletic performance etc. You can maintain while having smaller goals you can work toward.
@@qubed222 lets say a little more size
@@supernice_auto Obviously, hard to say without knowing details about what you do etc but I like to change diet first and then go from there. Increase protein, without altering calories, and see what happens. Then you can change calories if increasing protein doesn't lead to any gains. Once you feel like your diet is on point, then play with set and reps (high weight, low reps, long rest vs short rest, higher reps, lower weight and all with high intensity and no wasted time or sets). I liked to do 2-3 warm up sets, which some would call actual working sets, and one maximal effort set. The warm up sets are just to prepare your nervous system and muscles for the set to failure and they should not be intense at all. So for bench, I would do something like 135 for 8, 225 for 2, 315 for 1, 355 for 1, 405 to failure. Just an example, it can change based on heavy vs light days etc. Key thing is to have fun and be consistent. Enjoy what you are doing and the results!
@@qubed222 great response man- i like your approach and yes i've been focusing on increasing protein w/o lowering calorie intake already as a matter of fact- i'm 5'10, 36 years old, 185 lbs and at this point in my life do more cardio than weight lifting, i put on weight/muscle fairly easily but its hard for me to keep stubborn fat off (lower belly) so i've been focusing on more HITT than anything but want to get back to building a bit more in my legs and chest/shoulders
He is not what I expected. He was a monster. Lovely to see
Great stuff
I love the gym… but I have a family, kids busy long hour job and a house to fix.. I DO NOT have time to train without totally physical and mental exhaustion (I’m quite fit)
But… when I do have the odd hour to go I will go.. when I’m not nearly dead tired 😂
Exercise is so important. I think 3-4 hours a week for the Average person would be amazing for them. Just my opinion of course.
Kettlebells are great for parents with little time! I follow Geoff Neuperts programs and I’m in the best shape of my life. 3 days a week 30 minute sessions. Two kettlebells get you a great workout.
Kids need exercise too, even if it's just walking to school, instead of driving.
workouts actually energize you for the day
@@dltguitar6532 I agree! Im up at 5, and do a 6 in the morning workout before work 2-3 days a week. I’m full of energy until about 3:30, then I start fading 😆
Squats are still the king. He had to stop because he injured himself. It works for him not to do squats. They benefit far more than hypertrophy. When done correctly, they strengthen knees, ankles, back, hips. He had an over the top juiced up experience
Lots of people get injured doing heavy barbell back squats....juiced or not.
@@WileyHyena The keys is what you said "heavy barbell". Lower the weight and do proper safe ones
Love listening to Dorian
NOBODY needs to do squats.
But
squats give that look all of the other exercises even combined cannot impart to you.
Now the reason people don’t do squats.
Cause they are HARD to do.
People become afraid to do them. They require MORE FOCUS than any other exercise.
Sone people just can’t focus that much cause even the focus on squats is a commitment.
The reason his hips were damaged is because he went too heavy earlier than he should have.
Let's not forget he's the only successful Mr Olympia in the modern era who trained like this. All the other giants trained and still train for much longer and more frequently. So this is far from the only wisdom out there. For me as a natural trainer Dorian's frequency of roughly once every other day is perfect, but my weight volume and rest periods need to be higher. You need to pick those aspects of any advice that suits you, and be ready to disregard the rest, no matter how much authority the person has.
Nobody cares what u need little Marcus , u r telling complete strangers your little pathetic workout schedule
Absolutely. By his own logic of ‘look at his results….proof is in the pudding’ look at the vastly higher number of successful bodybuilders who got equal and a few even better results that didn’t train the way Dorian did. Also, Dorian paid the price in injuries. Not saying his method of training doesn’t work, of course it does, it’s more the level of dogma HIT enthusiasts can appear to apply is the ‘best’ way to train and not acknowledging that there are ´any ways to reach the same goal, and some better especially for longevity.
@@stevenroberts5741 Agree. What every Mentzer worshipper forgets is he was also among the most stubborn bodybuilders in history. Towards the end of his career he became so obsessed witht the super slow method (eccentric And concentric) he genuinely considered it the only way anyone should train. At bodybuilding seminars he'd get so angry with anyone disagreeing with him he'd leave the room (just like he left the competitive side of the sport entirely after 1980). He obviously had many things to offer, but a few dubious ideas as well.
@@stevenroberts5741 why don’t u actually report the facts and understand what really happened, Dorian admitted his big mistake was training this way 3-4 weeks before the Olympia and wished he would have went to lower weights and high volume , every one of his injuries occurred when he was prepping, depleted of nutrients and of course was taking diff chemical supplements that can easily cause muscle tissue tear , I think people always have a tendency to take a interview and twist it in so many diff directions to fit their own “expert” opinions.
@Dave E ya. It's not the heavy lifting. Heavy lifting has been proven to be far more beneficial than having negative impacts IF you are doing it naturally. They always forget he was on tons of chemical which weaken joints. You are able to lift more faster than your body can adjust to. What you said is 100 percent right bro.
literally said nothing about not needing squats.
Fascinating stuff 👍😊
Great advice
Glad to see that Dorian retired from bodybuilding with a healthy body and a healthy mind.
He retired with thickening of the heart muscle, very few of these guys will retire healthy unfortunately.
you can tell how much gear these guys were one based on how much they lost when they quit. Hes doing yoga because somewhere along the end there he likely nearly died from a heart attack OR his doctor said he is literally a dead man walking with the damage he did with the amount of roids he was chugging, he is basically in the acceptance phase of grief by realizing he did this to himself and must be happy to move along with a new phase in his life.
You say that, but he's still a big guy for regular people. Obviously hes not going to be the super freak he was without the drugs.
Makes it so simple. Absolute legend..
he found it out before others...he didnt waste time doing junk volume.listening to his instincts, observing what he had been doing he became mr olympia.respect
"DO NOT need to do squats".
The EGO lifters have entered the chat! LOL
The injury cult that worships squats and deadlifts as if they're magic. These guys will blow their backs out and still worship the squat and deadlift. It's an injury cult.
Covid taught me that less is more for me. I train 2x a week now for 30-40mins and have way better results than when I was training 5-6x a week. Get in, stimulate the muscles for growth, and get out. The more you do this workout, the more you need to do the next.
How you train?
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 sure pal
@@user-jy6eo2lr7k You laugh, but the dude is correct... I used to hit the gyms 5 days a week for 90 minutes each visit, now I go 2 times a week for 60 minutes each visit and my gains are better and I'm not always fucking fatigued and/or injured... Like Dorian said @10:24 "less is better"
@@--Harley you are NOT dorian yates
What's your point, neither are you and yet his advice will work for you, "less is more"...
Example BICEPS: supinating dumbbell curls, hammer curls and assisted chin up... that's it you're done!
Do this once per week and results will blow your mind.... you're welcome!
Love this guy. WISDOM
Such a cool guy to listen too talking,
Dorian is a legend.