T.R.O.Y. - Deconstructing Pete Rock’s Signature Sound
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Great interview with Pete Rock breaking down the story of T.R.O.Y. - • Pete Rock Shares The T...
hiphopdx.com/news/id.15493/ti...
"Check The Technique Vol. 1" by Brian Coleman - amzn.to/3sKxKsf
Tom Scott's Liner Notes: www.turntablelab.com/products...
Tom Scott explaining that he hasn't gotten paid: www.tiktok.com/@tomscottjazzm...
"The Creator" - Slide to the Side Remix, the one that sounds more Pete Rock-Esque - • Pete Rock & CL Smooth ...
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TOPICS COVERED
Pete Rock
CL Smooth
They Reminisce Over You
T.R.O.Y.
Heavy D and the Boys
East Coast
Hip Hop
90s Sound
Renaissance
Mecca and the Soul Brother
Breakdown
Music History
James Brown
Planet Rock
Producer
Production
#hiphop #peterock #musichistory
Wow...very dope! Thank you for this and for celebrating my brother. My brother and I will always miss Troy...he was our big brother! BTW, the bassline for "A Better Land" was played by Nevelle Hodge...he also played all the keys on Somebody For Me. The sample portion of Better Land was Pete. He did a pause button tape of that beat and several others on Big Tyme!👍🏾🎶🔥👑💯 Once again THANK YOU and please keep DIGGING THE GREATS🙏🏾
Man, thank you - incredible to hear from you, it's an honor 🙏
Your music inspired me to get an SP. Thank you for everything.
I played that Big Tyme cassette in my walkman to school everyday, kids used to be like dont you have any other tapes lol... Mood for love and Somebody for Me were my favorites
@GrapLuvaMr7....Trouble T is missed by alot of Mount Vernon dudes❤❤
"I got ta F L O double U and that spells flow" 💥💥💥
“Deja Vu, tell ya what I’m gonna do /When they reminisce over you, my God”
I get goosebumps every time I hear that.
Industry rule #4080, record company people are shadyyyyyyyy!
Great video, love your work, love this track. Absolute classic!!!
Check da rhyme✌️
"So kid, just watch your back, because they might smoke crack... I don't doubt it, look at how they act."
Off to better things like a hip hop forum
wrong dude 1 JUST GET AN ATTORNEY.....dang... makes me angry....also you can sell your copyrights in the US. And ONLY in the US! Why ? Cuz Capitalism.....wake up folks
"...RECORD COMPANY PEOPLE ARE SHADYYY!", shout out ATCQ. Love these breakdown videos and how sincere this classic song's background is. 💯
Industry rule #4080
Greatest hip hop song, if not one of the best songs of any genre. The melodies cannot help but get you in tune with the lyrics and the lyrics are universal. A masterpiece for sure
Simply the greatest song. A movie in a few moments.
Off the top of my head, nostalgia by Piero Umiliani, One Love by Nas, and maggot brain by funkadelic are the only contenders
I agree it’s one of the best but common’s her is just a love letter to hip hop
@@fettywapsmissingeyeone love is also top 5
You should hear De La Soul’s “Trying People”
Rip to Trouble T. Roy he will always be missed
This song 🎵 has such a deep meaning because one of my closest friends growing up in 92 named Hector passed away at 16yrs old that was devastating but what made it harder to deal with was he told me he wasn't gonna make it to the end of the year. I was hard broken 💔 when he died but he loved the T.R.O.Y. song by Pete Rock & CL Smooth and that song just came at a perfect time for everyone that was affected.... just like it was dedicated to Trouble T Roy ( RIP 🙏🏾 ). I always think of my boy when this song comes on.
Peace
Oh man, I'm so sorry you lost your friend Hector. That's great that this song gave you comfort during an impossibly difficult time - that's the power of music. Much love man 🙏
@@diggingthegreats
Thank you for commenting. You are doing incredible work brother. A national treasure
Condolences to you and your friend's family 🙏🏾👑
This and 93 Til Infinity are my favorite beats of all time. Growing up, there were lots of producers i was a fan of but the one that made me actually start doing it myself was PR. That man makes true art with his equipment.
93 til!
this is how we chill from 93 till!
The way you circled back to that Tom Scott quote at the end of this was nothing short of spectacular. So happy you covered this bro!!
My absolute favorite Hip-Hip song of all time. A pure classic!!!!
There's a few that give u that feeling right off back troy,cream,93til,shook ones one love etc.great comment salute 💯
its up there for sure
Forever #1 for me
Favorite content on the net, never stop being you my man. i was just a rapper before i stumbled on your channel about a year ago, now im glad to say that my next project will be self produced by me with each track being inspired by legendary producers of old.I can honestly say your channel changed the direction of my music and honestly my life no joke. Definitely will never forget it!
Man, this is incredible, thank you 🙏 and congrats on the album!
@@diggingthegreats nahh thank you man. and rule 4080 is record company people are shadyyyyyy
Mecca and the Soul Brother is a classic album. I can listen to it from front to back and love it more each time.
Not better than "The main ingredient "
When Pete Rock and CL were still collaborating on projects I think they have one of the best discographies including their first EP release
This is one of the most soulful Hip Hop songs ever made. I have to listen to it every 3 months, just to remind myself of an era where Hip Hop wasn't lame and everyone had to sound unique, especially the *PRODUCERS.*
And TROY is one of the few Hip Hop songs that can actually make me cry.
my mom showed me T.R.O.Y when i was a kid around 2005-2007. at the time i had never heard anything like it but the feeling it invoked was unlike anything i had experienced before. i had felt nostalgic and sad for things i was even alive to experience (i was born in 02) yet still, it was so heavy to me. RiP Trouble T Roy and thank you to those responsible making the song.
I love that whatever corner of east coast hip hop you look in somehow Q-tip was always there
I'm so glad I grew up in the Golden Age of Hip Hop. This is my all-time favorite nostalgic jam. When I say my mind was blown when Pete Rock said "Take the first letter out of each word in this joint. Listen close as I prove my point. T to the R the-O-Y" it was like the first epiphany I ever had🤯
I still get chills when that part comes up. And for some reason, I remember exactly where I was and what I was doing when I heard Trouble T Roy had died.
Great series! Keep up the great work! ✌🏻
This is one of 3 hip hop songs that literally left me in a trance when I first heard them, not surprisingly, 2 of them are produced by the great Pete Rock.
3. Rather Unique by AZ
2. Welcome to the Terrordome by Public Enemy.
1. T.R.O.Y. by Pete Rock and CL Smooth.
I will never forget when it came on the radio early summer of '92 before I went to basic training. I was in my mom's car with my girlfriend we were parked just about to get out. I couldn't move. After the track went off I was like "Did you hear that?" She looks at me nonchalantly like "Yeah." Some ppl just can't understand or appreciate the genius of hip hop music.
There’s not a song in Hip hop history that has produced more tears than this one. This is the quintessential memorial track for the homies, and family members that have passed on. I’ve listened to it since it dropped in 1992.
T.R.O.Y. might be the greatest rap beat ever.
Thank you KING. We asked you for T.R.O.Y and you gave it to us❤❤❤
Been on the next up list for a bit, and saw the recent comments, so here we are 🔥
Love your videos, man..... The Tom Scott quote reveal at the end made me punch the air!
As for T.R.O.Y.; lyrically the whole song is so relatable...... I still get goose bumps whenever I hear the line "Noddin' off, sleep to a jazz tune...... I can hear his head banging on the wall in the next room" as it perfectly coincides with one of those sweet snare fills. Even after 30+ years, the whole thing sounds as fresh as the day it dropped...... A true hip hop masterpiece. ✊
nice little nod to of the start of CL’s lyrics in your intro, I love little Easter eggs like this you do that only proper heads would pick up! Keep up the good work 😀
Dude, you went IN!!!!!! Awesome video and I love the way you weave the connections between hip hop producers, musicians, samples....amazing how hip-hop pulls from different directions, times, and places...
🙏🙏 Had to - it’s all connected in many different ways
When T.R.O.Y. dropped in 1992, it was an instant classic. There was no debate. Everyone loved it. I remember heads on the block discussing how great it was as we were riding our bikes or waiting for the bus or forming a freestyle cipher.
I remember when I first heard that track when it came out. You know how you hear a song and you instantly know it's going to be a huge hit and considered a classic on first listen? This is one of those songs. And it still holds up 31 years later!
This is probably my favorite song of all time
Dude this channel does not miss! Great choices of songs
At all. Quality over quantity
It's about time somebody who knows their stuff posts something like this. I was hoping to see somebody break down, not just T.R.O.Y. (my favourite song of all time) but Pete Rock and his production style because it is unique and besides Dr. Dre from the west, Pete Rock is my favourite east coast producer who I think not a lot of people talk about and may be underrated to some extent
11:15 RECORD COMPANY PEOPLE ARE SHADYYYY
One of the best Hip Hop records EVER.
The "T.R.O.Y" single cover has been my desktop background photo on my laptop for over 10 years.
As a kid hearing this on L.A. radio stations, I knew there was something special and it gave me a feeling I couldn’t describe. It brought me back to Hip Hop and later built my respect for jazz. Thank you for the breakdown
Another masterful ‘rundown.’ I recently started listening to this song after hearing it… somewhere…. I’m not a current hip hop fan but do love to ‘reminisce’ the earlier eras and how they were often incidental accompaniment to my (so called) life. This was one of them-NYC in the late 80s through 90s, a special time.
You can say that again
80-90’s. NYC was everything. The real 40dukes, Stickup kids, graffiti, golden era HipHop. Chinese food, summer youth/stickup kids 😂😂😂.
You are a blessing to me bro. I still listen to TROY today. I'm from Jamaica and I remember buying that tape for about $150 JA back then high school. You point out the sounds I've been hearing, but you put in writing. Nuff respec'!
One of the best parts of Friday is getting a new Digging the Greats video to put on during work in the afternoon.
I listened when PR when he was on Marley Marl’s “In Control” Radio Show. Pete Rock was killing it. On occasion he would use the SP1200 live on the Air and mix with both Turntables all at the same time. Amazing!
This is top-shelf work, Brandon. Every video you make puts more and more light on these artists and their music and just how much skill, passion and musicianship went into making it. This on top of one of the greatest pieces of music in this genre, a haunting, beautiful track that hits right in the heart every time.
Also, you forgot Tom Scott's "Gotcha," the theme to Starsky and Hutch in the second and fourth seasons. Yes, I had to differentiate. :D
The TROY beat is such an iconic beat, especially the saxophone
This song is like, the quintessential 90s hip-hop track for me. As a pre-teen I first heard it (and De La Soul's Me Myself and I) on the video game NBA Street Vol. 2, and those two songs cemented my interest in hip-hop music. I didn't start seriously listening to hip-hop until MANY years later, but I will always credit those two songs for really confirming that I liked this type of music.
NBA street vol. 2 was my first foray into hip hop music and I will always appreciate what it led me to.
Man i played that Game yesterday. The whole soundtrack in general is just legendary. Best NBA Street Volume ever still💯
Man i played that Game yesterday. The whole soundtrack in general is just legendary. Best NBA Street Volume ever still💯
Dude no way, I grew up playing this awesome game too. Chief Rocka was my other favorite. I remember playing so late until felling asleep in front of the tv
New Digging the Greats? Pete Rock? T.R.O.Y?... Instant watch !
My all time fav rap song. Everytime the intro start i get goosebumps. Been bangin T.R.O.Y since i was like 4 back in 03😂 love my parents for makin me listen to classics and appreciate music
Goose bumps for me every time I hear this song. The same. ✊🏾
Man I remember when I had this cassette back in the days when you didn't have to rewind a song but just let the whole thing just play through from beginning to end finish one side flip it over, play the other side, back to back damn they don't make albums like this no more. T.RO.Y. Wow! did not even know they did not get paid for this classic, it should be criminal what the record company did to these guys. T.R.O.Y. is still in my rotation until this day!!! Never a Hip-Hop song makes you feel what they were trying to convey.
As a french keyboardist/beatmaker/hip hop addict, this channel is a golden mountain , for real sir 😊 keep doing your work, I've learned stuff and things that i wasn't expecting... cheers from the Daft Punk's country 😉v
I truly appreciate this series, and the genuine love for the genre. It’s nice to see a lot of classics, but I would love to see some more unconventional classics like Deltron 3030 giving birth to the Gorillaz, Dr. Octagon starting the “Bear Witness” trilogy, the Prince Paul “Prince Among Thiefs” concept album or the word play and beat switch in “Releasing Hypnotical Gases”. I think these stories will unfold a less predictive influence on the genre as a whole and would be very interesting!
T.R.O.Y. has left an indelible mark on my soul.
Your videos are always a treat. So well researched, so much explanation of history and context and how things all fit together, so well written and thought out, so much thought put into the topics and artists you feature.
🙏🙏 trying my best to do it right and pay respect to the music and the people who made it
This track has been with me all over the planet during my military travels. I love the fact that you broke this down, and filled in the gaps. I actually didn't know the entire story behind Trouble T-Roy. That lil fact slipped by me. Thanks again.
This was when I found out that hip hop could be pretty. + every time since, whenever I hear it, I’m humming it + whistling it for the next few days.
One of the greatest Hip Hop songs of all times made by one of the greatest Beatsmiths of all times. R.I.P. Trouble T. Roy!
Off topic, but Digging the greats should do a video on the sampled song Funky Worm by the Ohio Players and how the synthesizer influenced G-Funk and West coast rap in general lol
An absolute classic, monumental piece of the rap art museum.
One of the standout aspects of 'the chocolate boy wonder's production is the way he made a best sound, ... Complete, full, with no opportunity to sit there and think 'dam, this beat would sound SICK if it had a little of this, or that, in there'.
I remember listening to the 'lots of lovin' remix multiple times and hearing something different that I hadn't noticed previously.
Those tiny little details that just bring everything together made him a God producer.
Thanks for these videos. 👊
The second the horn comes in I get goosebumps every time! This is THE quintessential sound of Pete Rock, well this and maybe the remix he did of PE’s Shut Em Down. Industry rule #4080 record company people are shady
Same here g! ✊🏾
Industry rule #4080: Record company people are shadyyy
Anyone else that noticed how good he is at segways?
The first time i ever heard this song was from a video game NBA street Vol. 2. That game was so amazing and really did influence my taste in hip hop at a young age. I was about 10 years old when i played that game. T.R.O.Y was the main song on all the loading screens. I would never get sick of that song and to this day brings me such nostalgic feelings when i hear it. I absolutly love this track. The story behind it makes it even more special. Thanks...
Déjà vu, tell you what I'm gonna do
When they reminisce over you, my God
… My God
Amazing video! You put soo much info into your videos , and they are made incredibly well on different levels! Even the background beat is dope as hell! Salute
This is a song that can felt in your soul.
Thanks for the trip down memory lane. I was born in 1971. I started to hear this new musical genre called Rap in the late 70’s. I grew up in Brooklyn during the inception and evolution of Rap. I’ve lived through some of the greatest moments in Hip-Hop history. The late 80’s, early 90’s, ushered in a new sound pioneered by a handful of producers. Electronics have played an immense role in the longevity and creativity within Rap music. Keep the culture alive. Stay blessed.
ngl. you've quickly entered my goat list of hip hop artists. thanks for everything that you do. the way you teach hip hop is an art.
Once in a while you discover a channel that you immediately know you're gonna dig. Well, this is one of them.
Love the content, love your energy, love the fact that you are a fellow double bass player (haven't seen her yet).
Keep up the good work, I'm gonna eat your channel in a week and I will crave for more.
Yessir Salute to The Legend Pete Rock my favorite producer!
This song is so monumental. Great video once again. Pete rock and cl are legends...
Absolutely fantastic video as always 🤌🏽. I will always love this song because it's intertwined with my favorite video game of all time NBA Street Vol 2. Literally every time you boot the game up T.R.O.Y comes on bangin. Sometimes I'd leave the title screen on just to listen to the music 🙌🏽.
One of hip hop’s greatest songs.. probably most underrated song in hip hop
Truly appreciate this breakdown! Thank you for your love for Hip Hop and music. We will be still discovering why and how our favorite songs were sampled
I absolutely love your videos and the way you give examples to the details of your story.
You can easily feel the passion you have for the music.
One of the greatest songs ever made.
Great video. Definitely educational.
Pete was my influence in the 90s. And still in 2023, I use Soul samples.
The only corrections are, Heavy D's "now that we have love" is a sample/electronic sound from Third World's "Now that we found love."
The Gangstarr (Work) and Heavy D (A Better Land) is from 70s group The Main Ingredient's "Everybody Plays The Fool."
It doesn't get much better than Mecca And The Soul Brother, what an album.
This song was the one song that can be played at funerals and weddings. It’s a beautiful track created by a amazing producer that produced by feel not by money. You can tell by every composition he put out in the 90’s and 2000’s
Brandon, thanks SO much. This video was a must to do. PR's sound is often a reference point I use to mark a height at which the production quality had grown tremendously. And an excellent threading-of-the-needle by mentioning Premo, Extra P, and Tip...slick hinting of "Illmatic". Good stuff as always. 🔥🔥🔥
Thank you for this. Mecca and the Soul Brother is the most underrated classic in hip hop history. Easily a top 10 album of all time hip hop…
One of my favorites! So excited to see your take and deconstruction as always
Man I just started highschool when Mecca and the soul brother was released. I just remember thinking to myself that the sound I was hearing was like no other. Timeless. The next album the Main Ingredient was phenomenal as well. Keep doing what you're doing man, this channel is awesome
"Record company people are shadyyyyyy"
A friend of mine asked this question years ago and it's one of my favorites to ask as an icebreaker: name 3 songs that you wish you could wipe from your memory and hear for the first time again. Mine are:
3. Pharcyde "Running Away,"
2. Souls of Mischief "93 Til Infinity,"
1. Pete Rock/CL Smooth "T.R.O.Y."
Because Top 40 kiddie-pool rap was the only rap my parents let me to listen to, my favorite artists at the time were Kid n Play, MC Hammer, and Kris Kross. That was until my cousin introduced me to this new level of ocean-deep hip-hop. My taste in not only hip-hop, but music in general, has been on an entirely different trajectory since. Thanks Cuzzo!
P.S. I still have our notepads full of wack-ass rhymes about video games, ninja turtles, and summer vacation
3. Eric B & Rakim "Microphone Fiend" Please dig into any of their tracks.
2. Pete Rock/CL Smooth "T.R.O.Y." Would be #1 but
1. Souls of Mischief "93 Til Infinity," always feels like my first time hearing it.
Plus my son and I had a bonding moment over it, when I showed him where the original beat for J.Cole's freestyle came from.
Now excuse me while I go listen to these on repeat for the rest of the night.✌🏻✌🏻✌🏻
@@TheRealPeterChavez A smoove operator operatin' correctly! "Microphone Fiend" is forever raw. And "93 'Til Infinity" always puts a smile on my face. The west coast flow on an east coast boom-bap beat still feels like kids breaking rules. Reminds me of being young and rebellious.
@@aubreyyoung4610 "The west coast flow on an east coast boom-bap beat still feels like kids breaking rules. Reminds me of being young and rebellious."
Exactly this 1000%
you're a good lesson planner man. as a high school teacher, the set up and follow through on different threads is really well done. appreciated as always
I love jazz and rap, jazz sampled rap has to be the perfect combination of music for my taste and T.R.O.Y. Is one of my favorites. Timeless and beautiful.
TROY is a perfect mix of the amazing beat sample paired with CL Smooth's lyrics. It's a perfect song. gold standard of hip hop.
I've loved this song since I was a kid. I couldn't tell you how or when I even heard it for the first time. I can tell you I've been in love with it ever since though, I know that much.
Back in the day, when this came on at the club... it was over 🙅
In good time this also led me to appreciate/buy the Tom Scott break. Pure magic.
Thanks for breaking down this *classic* tune, you've made an old man very happy-good times!!
dope history lesson of this classic, and song breakdown, subscribed, keep up the good work 👌
I love how Today from Tom Scott is used in the Boondocks' cartoon episode "Riley Wuz Here" when all the emotional climax drops in your face. At that time I was listening to a lot of PRaCLS T.R.O.Y., so it blew my mind and made me look out for the samples. I couldn't believe it when I found out that T.R.O.Y. sampled a cover of Jefferson's Airplane's "Today"
Amazing Pete Rock and Cl Smooth song, second only to The Creator for me!
That sax sample is probably the greatest sample in music history
Amazing video. Also the remake of So Far by your composer is beautiful. It’s the opening and closing cue. Salute!!! That guitar is so damn juicy.
Cant get over that quote from Tom Scott. Feels very surreal to me
Your channel is the best !!
Love your videos; thank you 🙏
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I’m going to reminisce over this video for a long time!
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Love your videos bro 🙏🏾 definitely keeps me inspired 🙏🏾
Oh my GWAD how I love this song!!!
As a kid I loved the beat…
As an adult the words hit me so hard
RIP Heavy D🕊️
RIP Trouble TRoy🕊️
Salute to PR&CL ‼️
@DiggingtheGreats🫡‼️
Your videos are beyond this world. Exceptional!!! I substituted from the first video. Keep up the great work. Do you do your own editing? And do you name any of the background music that is played while you speak???
shared on FB... you are a treasure to Hip-Hop... i name you Hip-Hop Master Librarian! ... Maester!... 🔥😁
Your passion in the production of your videos and your breakdown analysis on these classics are IMPECCABLE!! 💯😎💪🏿... A Masterpiece 🎙️🎶🎙️🎶🎙️🎶🎙️🎶🎙️🎶🎙️
I love this song (and album) so much that i preformed a cover of T.R.O.Y at my school’s talent show.
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The liner notes coming from the Tom Scott album BLEW MY
MIND.
One of my favorite cassette singles. The samples are great.
I love these in depth videos on the pioneer producers of the golden age. Good job sir.
I was waiting for you to do this one, best song ever, for sure.
Thank you
Everytime I hear that crying sax sample....🥺 Huge Thank You to JB's drummer Mr Clyde Stubblefield for creating the sound foundation of Hip Hop music. So many other sounds grew from his drum structure.
Btw I still don't know where the genre name 'Hip Hop' came from...we just called it breaks and party jams when we started playing music in the community centers and playgrounds.
You've got a new subscriber. Well done presenting my fave hip-hop tune of all time. And certified by Grap Luva himself!