Why are There TWO Empty Tombs of Jesus?
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- In this episode Trent tells the story behind the "other" empty tomb of Jesus in Jerusalem.
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00:00 Introduction
00:30 History of the Holy Sepulchre
02:20 Did the Holy Sepulchre ACTUALLY contain Christ’s tomb?
04:20 Protestant Scholar’s Tomb of Christ
04:50 Is the Garden Tomb the ACTUAL tomb of Christ? - Zábava
Fun fact: It’s still Easter! It doesn’t end until Pentecost.
This fact is indeed fun! Alleluia He is risen!
Yup!
Every day is Easter
Agree, this fact is fun and true 😊❤✝️
@@yuefei8711 not really. If that the case, then Easter day will be meaningless. There is one special day for Easter, the day when Jesus ressurected from death.
Christ is risen indeed, to my Catholic brethren. From an Orthodox. We celebrate it in about a month.
Heck ya brother ✝️🤝☦️
5th May 2024
The garden tomb presents that neat, clean facade protestantism thrives on without the substance and complexity and mystery of the real thing. I visited both tomb sites as a protestant. The holiness of the Holy Sepulchre haunted me for years afterward. I couldn't shake the feeling of being drawn to it. The garden tomb loomed as a cruel farce, emblematic of so many other counterfeits I'd come to accept as an anticatholic. I am now Catholic and praying for unity, that we may all be as one that others might believe. Blessings to all!
Traitor
@Crusader1984 The irony of Protestants with "crusader" profile names / pictures always cracks me up.
The crusaders were all Catholic, lol. Crusaders would have called you a traitor to the Church 😂
Sometimes, tradition is more reliable than some research whose only goal is to disprove it.
2 places that Constantine mislabeled were the Burning Bush at Mt. Sinai & the mountain of the Transfiguration. So he was not perfect but who cares in a tourist industry? Millions would be lost.
@@bobinindianaif you think millions would be lost just because they mistook a place, I wonder if you ever believed faith alone saves or not. I guess you don't, but you'll talk crap about Catholics not believing in faith alone.
@@rouxmain934 Thank you for your post! Oh, I apologize for the ambiguity. The millions lost was meant to mean millions of dollars invested in the Chapel of the Burning Bush, or St. Helena’s Chapel along with the dollars invested in the tourist industry itself.
As for the Solas, all Protestants have them in their doctrinal statements in theory. Now of course Pope Benedict reiterated the dogma that there is no Salvation outside of the Catholic Church, which nullifies Sola Fide.
Secondly, Fr. Mitch Pacwa explained in a discussion on John Ankerberg with another guest Dr. Walter Martin that the sinner must become a Catholic and do the obligations of a Catholic but he must also be like a co-participant and do good works to earn his justification. So Protestants do not believe what Catholics believe and that is probably why Catholics have retained the over 100 anathemas against Protestants for the last 500 years. These discussions are on CZcams.
Scientific archaeology along with Biblical descriptions of the historical Mt. Sinai disprove the site selected by Constantine and his Mother in Egypt in the wasteland of the Egyptian Sinai Peninsula. Evangelical scholars favor Jabal al-Lawz in Saudi Arabia as it is south of Midian. However, the Saudis forbid a scientific inquiry. Perhaps Saudi Arabia fears a devastating blow to their belief system if it were proven that Jabal al-Lawz is the true Mt. Sinai.
@@rouxmain934 I apologize for the ambiguity. The millions that would be lost would be tourist dollars trying to visit the site selected by Constantine and his Mother for the Chapel of the Burning Bush, or St Helena’s Chapel. I don’t understand if Catholics control that Chapel or if it all now is Greek Orthodox.
As for Sola Fide, Protestants have over 100 anathemas against them for 500 years. So legally, nothing has changed. Protestants do not believe the same thing as Catholics on Sola Fide as we believe that becoming a Catholic is not necessary for Salvation but Sola Fide.
The desert in the Sinai Peninsula is very severe. The mountain selected by Constantine and His Mother does not fit the description of where the Israelis were nor has anyone ever found any evidence that anyone ever encamped at that mountain.
@@rouxmain934 CZcams keeps deleting my apologies to you about the millions lost. I meant the millions of dollars spent by tourists to visit the mountain selected by Constantine and his Mother. There is no scientific evidence that they selected the correct place. That the site is being questioned is well known amongst archaeologists I should think. I think it has been questioned all my life. Do you know who controls the Chapel of the Burning Bush aka St. Helena’s Chapel?
Protestants do not agree with Catholics about Sola Fide. Don’t you have some anathemas from Trent against what Protestants believe?
Having visited both sites as a Protestant, then becoming Catholic a couple years later, I was initially swayed by the “it doesn’t matter” argument, but when I entered the Church of the Holy Sepulcher and other ancient sites, I couldn’t help but be more swayed by the presence of tradition. The so-called “garden tomb” lacks mysticism; it is peaceful, but everything is perfectly manicured. Contrast this with the ancient stones of the building of buildings. Their “Golgotha” has the site of the Crucifixion in a parking lot - if people had truly been convinced by it, that site would have been saved. A link of my Protestant armor was broken when I saw how the so-called “Garden Tomb” tries to separate Christians from the actual site of the Resurrection by making a diorama. I may not have converted because of my time in Jerusalem, but it certainly helped me see the attitudes of the Apostolic Churches toward preserving tradition versus what I had grown up with. It also helped me to spur my research into the Apostolic Fathers the next year.
It was the opposite for me when I was in Isreal. I felt a darkness and was disgusted with what the Catholic organization had done to the holy sites. I literally felt nauseous at times, especially at the church in Bethlehem. My favorite spot was the sea of Galilee because it hadn't been corrupted by the traditions of man.
@@JesusSaves373because you dont understand that we made the tradition because of the man of christ, if we didnt built it the time q
Would have erased it, you like the ideal jesus, than the actual historical jesus, not because of who he is but because of what it represents, the fact he didnt left a gigantic holy eternal fire, or a miracle that will always hit the spot of the tomb, he left what any man would left whe we leave this world, remains, stones, debri, and so on, we had to hijack that place and build a church around it, or they would destroy it, or it would fade away, sorry if we didnt preserved it by a miracle, and if we did what would that even do? It would just make people fight over to own that miracle, it would become a place of actual idolatry, not of the miracle itself, but of what the power of owning it represents, very clear why we preserved it the way we did, or you forget that it has been almost 2000 years? Thats how people of that time could preserve stuff
@@JesusSaves373 it's not just Catholics that have maintained the holy sites this way.
All the eastern apostolic churches, including Orthodox, value them too.
All the churches that have been around since before 500 years ago, in fact......
@@JesusSaves373oops! Other people are Christians and they have a 2,000 year old Church.
@@JesusSaves373 Brother, I guess it’s easy to feel that way if you are promptly moved by the subtle ideological hatred to the Catholic Church you have been indoctrinated with (either in Protestant or in secular Illuminist tradition), most specifically when you deny it is just there, and you simply can’t abandon those eyes and even try to be fair. Quite frankly, the precise definition of “traditions of men” comes at hand exactly in those specific situations, when the Apostolic origins of the faith and the ones of mere men manufacturing their theology and even their history get to be seen together, one in light of the other. God bless your paths! You know…
_”It is impossible to be just to the Catholic Church. The moment men cease to pull against it, they feel a tug toward it. The moment they cease to shout it down, they begin to listen to it with pleasure. The moment they try to be fair to it, they begin to be fond of it"._ (G.K. Chesterton, Why I am a Catholic).
May the Holy Spirit soften your heart, so that you will can actually know truth, and truth will set you free (John 8, 32).
From 🇧🇷 Brazil with love.
Christ is King.
why are you so antisimite
It isn’t anti semitic
@@euloge996 Stop baiting
Saying Christ is not the King is anti-Christian
The Law should be done today . Well , only if you wanna get into the kingdom . Here’s my favorite verse Revelation 14:12, blessed are those who don’t do anything beside say they believed in Jesus once
So, basically, they ignored archeological and historical evidence because “it was too Catholic.”
There is a lot of evidence that Catholics use that is just not sufficient. empty claims like "Peter was the first pope" and " we are successors to the apostles therefor have authority" or some other stupid crap like that.
@@seanpermann5570no it’s sufficient it just destroys your Protestant beliefs and threatens the tithes you receive
@@seanpermann5570so where was ur faith tradition at the compilation and preservation of the bible?
You can't trust geologists. Most are in the pocketbooks of the Catholic church. Evidence of Catholic manipulation of the field goes back thousands of years. In the early days, they were so desperate to pander to the group, they even tried to convince people that Peter was a rock. Insane!
@@seanpermann5570except Peter was the first Pope.
Maybe it's just personal bias but when I visited both sites, while the "garden tomb" felt so peaceful and evocative, it also felt sterile. The Church of the Holy Sepulcher on the other hand, despite all the noise and the chaos, I was moved to tears by the "presence" I felt.
Cough cough personal bias
Similar experience for me, and I was Protestant when I visited the sites (I’m now Catholic). The “Garden Tomb” felt too-perfectly manicured and like a tourist destination - it even has its own gift shop! - while I could tell that the Church of the Holy Sepulcher was the true site of love and devotion from the many nations of the world.
I had the same experiences when I was looking for the true church. Only Catholic churches moved me to tears.
@@SenorCinemaif course it looks like personal bias to those who don't ever feel God.
@@rouxmain934 you can’t know if what you are feeling is god or just you
I was just confirmed this Easter (I was baptist previously)! In large part because of your videos. Thank you for all that you do!
Welcome home my brother 🤗
Welcome home! Who was your confirmation saint?
St. Thomas Aquinas
@@calebvester6324 Nice! When I was confirmed in June, I chose St. Ignatius of Antioch.
Ignatius was the 3rd Bishop of Antioch. That was where the name "Christianity" came from. @@fallenkingdom-zd8xh
Christ the King has risen indeed!
Nothing claiming to be the tomb of Christ should have the attitude of "IDK maybe it isn't."
"I think what it really means is..."
It's very indicative of Protestantism in general:
"This doctrine is what all believers need to believe, and we should fear hell, lest we doubt it. Unless, y'know, we're wrong."
It doesn't matter where his tomb is. He isn't there. He reigns and rose from the dead. Lets not argue on things that make no difference. Lets celebrate that he is risen.
@@bradwhitt6768 As Christians, the place where our Lord was buried and where the greatest miracle ever done occurred does indeed matter to us.
@@bad_covfefe So it supersedes the miracle that occured?
Basically , the Evangelicals are angry that they have no claim over any of the Sites of the Holy Land so they made up one that does not exist .
lol, I think that’s the charitable way of viewing it.
Just like Protestant doctrine just symbolic not the actual thing, just empty
He is risen. Alleluia
Prove it.
@@dominicpardo4783 search it yourself. There is plenty evidence out there
@@dominicpardo4783 1 Cor 15.
He is Risen indeed!
@@tmcgsf Where?
As a convert to Catholicism from Protestantism, I can appreciate why protestants would want a separate location, since their praise services are so different than traditional worship.
I think it’s pretty cool that they admit that they’re not certain they have the right spot. Like a lot of things with Protestantism, they’re more interested in the sentiment than the exact truth itself. They found something “good enough”, so that they can symbolically celebrate.
But before we are tempted to gloat, we have to lament the fact that the ancient Christian churches sharing the site of the sepulcher don’t get along very well to this day. Shame on us.
most reasonable comment here.
"Traditional" worship since when? The gatherings in Acts would not resemble the typical Roman Catholic mass.
@@swilliams7850 You need to do some studying about Christianity.
@@swilliams7850 if the Eucharist isn't considered a sacrifice by your denomination, then it doesn't resemble the early church. I'm not talking about aesthetics, but the substance of what is happening. It's hard to generalize about what "all Protestants believe" but generally Protestants consider communion to be purely symbolic, and not a re-presentation of the sacrifice Christ offered to His Father. Lots of good books out there on this, if you're interested?
@@cheese9879
I've been a Christian for almost 40 years, and I tend to study some aspect of it daily. Thanks
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"Delusional suspicions" don't sound being like "deep in love"... js
Your wording is very suspicious and sounds one-sided. In either case, it's probably not meant to be.
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As a Protestant, this is the worst of Protestantism. When I first heard about the 2nd tomb, the people running the place couldn’t even make themselves lie & say for sure it was the real site. They said something like, “We can’t know for sure, but it’s nice that WE have our own place”. When you are changing God’s teachings or Christianity history so you can be the one in power, you’ve already lost the narrative completely. I didn’t know anything about Catholicism at the time of this, but I still could smell nothing but 🐃💩. Unfortunately for me, I am terrible at lying, even to myself, so I don’t have any patience for that kind of nonsense. I need to though because most of the laypeople really believe all the lies they’ve been fed. It’s still painful to me when I think of all the great prayers, saints, etc. that have been taken away from me for most of my life; it’s equally as painful for others to hear those things as well. It’s the Ray Comforts who knowingly lie who deserve the anger.
Well ya Protestantism relies heavily on changing God's teachings and Christian history.
That's what protestant do. Protesting!
True Faith + True Reason and vice versa, won't certainly fail to recognize the only "Truth" available to believe.
Protestantism is what you follow!!!!
@@dvdortiz9031
Do you take the due time to read what people write? @southbug27's was being very critical on Protestantism himself.
I have read two comments of you today, and both comments seem hasty and out of context. That this one shows no tagging makes it even more ambiguous.
Christ is King!
Not of this world.
@@asggerpatton7169_especially_ of this world. Heaven is more real than earth. Not less
@@marvalice3455 “My kingdom does not belong to this world. If my kingdom belonged to this world, my followers would be fighting to keep me from being handed over to the Jews. But as it is, my kingdom is not from here.”
@@asggerpatton7169 "of the world" means "has the world as it's source. The kingdom of God does not have the world as it's source.
"Over the world" means "includes the world in it's domain". All things, heaven, earth, and hell, are under the domain of the kingdom of God.
The kingdom doesn't need to be of the world to be in over the world.
Sorry if my wording was sloppy previously
Christ is DEAD!
Christ is King
Not of this world as he himself said it.
Christ is King of Jew and Gentile. For salvation is of the Jews!
Christ is DEAD!
@@dominicpardo4783 "Christ" isn't a name, but a title. If you truly knew about Him and why He has that title, you would understand why what you say here is false.
@@johnmb69 Ok. Jesus is DEAD. Without a doubt.
Jimmy Akin also did an episode on the tomb of Jesus. Highly recommended for those who want to go more in depth.
I'd rather encourage to look up the historical evidences for the sepulcher, and the current new archeological discoveries that were brought to light...
@@therealong His episode does go into the "historical evidences" in more depth.... What "current new archeological discoveries" are you referring to?
@@tonyl3762 It was referred to this unknown second tomb and on a National Geographic's article from Oct 30, 2016 on Jesus' burial tomb. Have you heard about?
I'm glad you like it but not really a fan of akin
@@marvalice3455 Why not?
Protestant here, When I went to Jerusalem I went to the Church of the Holy sepulcher, thinking (and rightly so) it was where the tomb of Jesus. When I came back to the states I saw that Protestants went to the other site and it really had me confused like I was wrong…. Now I see I wasn’t. I do think the traditional Catholic/ Orthodox tradition on where Christ was buried is the most actuate on the basis of tradition. The further evidence you provided helps. I find it interesting that Protestants tend to be very exact about certain things regarding the faith except for this.
A lot of Protestant belief (not all obviously, but a lot) is purely “if the Catholics believe it, the opposite must be true”.
It’s not always explicit like that, but the result is the same
Orthodox here. Have met myriad Protestants, regularly attended youth group. The only thing I have ever found them (inc. Pastors, etc) to be exact about is sola scriptora and fidalus. Beyond that, few can agree on anything.
He is Risen!
He is risen indeed!
The archaeological and historical evidence is clear, the Church of the holy sepulcher is the true site of Calvary and the original tomb of Christ. Of course protestants prefer “ the Garden Tomb”. It makes no difference for them whether “ the Garden Tomb “ is authentic or not. As long as it is not associated with Catholic or Orthodox beliefs and traditions the clear archaeological, and historical evidence can easily be rejected and ignored. This approach pretty much summarizes Protestantism which rejects reason in favor of opinion and agenda . .If protestants want to worship in a false place which is in the middle of a bus terminal in Jerusalem, good luck to them!
Please explain the validity of Mt. Sinai.
Didn't even realize this was a controversy bc anyone who would do any historical research would realize that the holy sepulchre was the true tomb.
I saw a lot of tour videos of the Holy Land these last few days and really made me wonder if protestants even visited at all. The Holy Land is full of Catholic/Orthodox churches and icons. The historicity of the city and apostolic succesion doesn't sound like something they would like to visit either.
@AlbertoLopez, do you think Mt. Sinai in Egypt 🇪🇬 is the place where Moses was given the Ten Commandments? If so, why?
@@bobinindianaYes it's in Exodus. Important place but not really considered the Holy Land per se for Christianity.
@@AlbertoLopez-mn8ms Thank you for your answer. As you know Constantine and his Mother selected the site for the Catholic Church of the Holy Sepulchre in the early 4th century.
They were not always correct in their choices. They misidentified a mountain site in northern Israel. If they chose the Mt. Sinai in Egypt 🇪🇬 where the Greek Orthodox Monastery is located, they made another error. That is a tourist trap. The real Mt. Sinai is now considered to be Jabal al Lawz in Saudi Arabia, which I fear The Vatican probably rejects. However, Jabal al Lawz has circumstantial evidence although the Saudis will not permit scientific archaeology to confirm the site.
Leading Evangelicals like Danny “the Digger” Herman, an Israeli tour guide, endorse the Church of the Holy Sepulchre. It is apparently jammed with tourists so not everyone likes crowds.
The Garden Tomb is nothing compared to the Church of the Holy Sepulchre. However, if Christians encounter Jesus there I'm okay with that. Also, it gives a possible look into how the real tomb may have looked at the time of His burial. Still, the Holy Sepulchre is the right place.
Catholics are the first and only true Christians! Do not call Protestants by our name!
Our Protestant brothers continue a line of thought of "by any means necessary" to convert or contain people to Protestantism. "The ends justify the means." Very sad.
They are not perfect but RC do teach works for salvation and idolatry
Most Protestants accept the legitimacy of the Church of the Holy Sepulture and there are Protestant services that are held there as well
@@Prognosis__this is wrong. Please learn what the Church actually teaches before commenting
@@Prognosis__ nope neither claim is true
@@Prognosis__ Among those who hate Catholicism, 99% hate what they imagine is Catholicism, you seem to be one of the 99%.😅
At Holy Sepulchre, when I reached down to touch the top of the rock (Calvary) I felt a bolt of energy hit my arm. If you go, go at 6am when they open. Very few there at that time. Awesome!
Hope you and your family had a blessed Easter, Trent!
Luke 22:19 Then He took the bread, said the blessing, broke it, and gave it to them, saying, “This is my body, which will be given for you; do this in memory of me.”
John 13:34-35 I give you a new commandment: love one another. As I have loved you, so you also should love one another. This is how all will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
John 17: 20-21 '“I pray not only for them, but also for those who will believe in me through their word,
so that they may all be one, as you, Father, are in me and I in you, that they also may be in us, that the world may believe that you sent me."
John 15:13 No one has greater love than this, to lay down one’s life for one’s friends.
Mark 16:6 He said to them, “Do not be amazed! You seek Jesus of Nazareth, the crucified. He has been raised; he is not here. Behold, the place where they laid him.
Praise God! Happy Easter!
The "Garden Tomb" was also argued to be the tomb by Ron Wyatt. That's all the proof you need that it's not the right tomb!
My reply was censored. Very few think the Garden Tomb is accurate. It has become a Protestant church in effect as Protestants could not hold services at the Catholic Church as Trent himself would probably agree.
Didn't he discover Noah's ark though?
@@MikeyJMJ No. There have been a number of possibilities but no solid scientific evidence for Noah’s Ark. Not sure wood can last outside for 4,300 years.
@@bobinindianawood could also have been taken and used for other purposes, like creating shelters.
@@Sousabird 💯% As you know, the Flood was catastrophic.
As a Protestant, I'd rather visit the Apostolic site over one that is merely "symbolic"
Amen
Get out from the lie you believe and follow!
@@dvdortiz9031not every Protestant branch is a lie some are similar just different versions of reformed catholocism
Happy Easter to you and your family, Trent! I never knew there were more than one church in Jerusalem claiming to have the tomb of Jesus such an insightful video.
And what does that tell you provided that one should look for the objective truth?
@@therealongThat one isn't the real deal and my money is on the one where early Christians wrote "Lord we Came" on it is probably the actual tomb. 😊
@@therealong1Timothy 3:15
Become catholic!
@@mellieg.7543
Of course this "garden tomb" could not be taken seriously. (Hadn't got your comment notification btw.)
@@dvdortiz9031
What are you talking about? I also read what you commented on another post. Concentrate on how to distinguish between the two tombs, 1Tm 3: 15 doesn't tell anything about it. 🤔
Catholics, Eastern Orthodox, AND Oriental Orthodox worship at the right tomb!
Love ya Trent
What difference does.it make?
@@DPK5201 It doesn't.
Even if you were to follow the faulty, protestant belief that Jesus was crucified and buried outside of the walls of Jerusalem and therefore the Church of the Holy Sepulcher couldn't be his burial place; that doesn't mean the tomb, which Joseph of Arimathea donated, wasn't inside the walls of Jerusalem.
Happy Octave of Easter!
God bless!
Vivat Jesus!
The ancient burial sites I Jerusalem are on the outside of the city!!!
I have been in the Tomb where Jesus lay. A remarkable experience. We also had Mass at one of the side alters just before visiting Golgotha and the Tomb. I still an amazed that I actually had the opportunity to pilgrimage to the HolyLand. A dream come true. The Gospels are so much more alive as I can envision the place. The cave in the Garden of Gethsemini is still a surprise inspirational experience. If you ever have the opportunity to go to the Holy Land, go. Preferably with a Church or religious group. Would go back in a minute. There is so much to see.
The garden tomb never made sense to me😂 it's way too clean and kept. Who thought it would be a good idea to make a fake?
Never heard of it either...
Thank you for always speaking the truth in charity! Happy Easter!
For a Protestant, it probably doesn't matter much whether it's the actual tomb if Christ or not. What matters most is how you can meditate and visualize the events of the gospels, which is probably easier to do in a simple cave as opposed to a Church-site. But for Catholics and the various Eastern churches, the real place has a relic-nature to it. The place itself has power and glory, regardless of how easily you can recall the events that happened there. A Church actually better helps Catholics appreciate the holiness of the site, as opposed to Protestants who might see religion and liturgy as more of a distraction from their personal meditation
Happy Easter everyone.
My heart is filled with joy and hope Hallelujah.
I've been to both. The Church of the Holy Sepulchre is beautiful, wonderful, and amazing to go to as the holy site it is.
The Garden Tomb is good to go to in order to be able to imagine what it looked like at the time.
Happy Easter Trent, may you have an exalente day, and may God bless you and your family!!!
The Protestant site has as a starting assumption that many Protestant things do.
" Obviously nothing anyone else thinks is correct"
Thank you very much for the clarification. Helped a lot.
Thank you for this valuable information. Happy Easter!
Beautifully wrought and concise. Thank you.
Enjoyed this video as I questioned why there would be two tombs of Jesus. Thank you Trent and happy Easter to you and your family🙏
As a Lutheran, I'm really tired of being lumped into the same category with people who hate tradition. I've never even heard of the second site, only the holy sepulchre. It would be a dream come true to visit, incense, chanting, and all.
As long as you deny the authority of the Pope, you are a Protestant who hates Tradition.
Well then let’s go ahead and come on over to the Catholic Church my friend! 😊 if you’ve never read the early church fathers id highly suggest it. God bless.
Then stop protesting. Come home.
By this protestant thinking why not throw away the Bible? It was the Catholic Church that through Councils the Canon was selected by the assistance of the Holy Spirit.
By this catholic way thinking why not go back to worshiping Zeus, athena, poseidon.
@@bradwhitt6768 How does that even remotely make any sense? Explain how that logically follows from Catholicism. And dont give me a stupid short answer thats just a few sentences, I want a long detailed response.
The two tombs of Christ are truly are illustrative of the follies of Protestantism thought and the truth of Catholicism. Historical retrieval and literary critique are no match for tradition and ritual. I encourage any Protestant to watch the Jimmy akin episode on the tomb of Jesus.
I'd rather encourage to look up the historical evidences for the sepulcher, and the current new archeological discoveries that were brought to light...
@@therealong snark will get no where friend. Perhaps enlighten us on these new discoveries
I've already enlightened you: to move your butt and do the proper research.@@stcolreplover
@@stcolreplover I didn't detect a serious amount of snark from their reply. They were just pointing out that instead of denigrating and demeaning protestants, you could in fact draw them towards accepting the true location of the tomb by pointing them towards the historical discoveries that support it.
@@workinprogress8978 your snark meter must be broken…
“Denigrating” and “demeaning”? lol. 😂. All I offered is light criticism to Protestant thought and made no disparaging comments to Protestants. Methinks your sensitives are due to having egg on your face. The Apostolic Faith has always pointed towards the correct tomb, I am simply highlighting the erroneous Protestant framework to see the world.
This is so interesting. Thank you for sharing this
Praise God, happy Easter
Fun fact: for Eastern Orthodox, it's still Lent. This year's Pascha is May 5th.
Yes! As I child I loved having two Christmases and two Easters; the "social" one and the holy one. Frankly, as an adult, I still enjoy it! It's a real blessing.
@@NMemone except for many Christians, Christmas on the 25th is very holy, there just might be a social aspect along with it.
Sad fact
I had a run in with a protestant who went to this "new" tomb area and was a little confused. I never knew they believed in a different area for Christ's Death and Burial. After further research I clearly found the Church of the Holy Sepulchre was in fact built on the true location.
It’s an interesting topic for sure!
I visited both! As a believer, it was not a pilgrimage! It was good history but what is important is not where he was buried and rose, but that he rose and is in your heart.
Highly informative. Thank you!
Glad it was helpful!
Viva Cristo Rey!
Viva!
Thank you, this was very interesting.
Hope i visit jerusalem one day!
Cut themselves off from the true presence of Christ to strip away all honor to make a counterfeit
Yep that’s what I call a pro-testant move
I am a Protestant, although I should note that I mean Christian first and Protestant second if you know what I mean. I have visited both sites with a professor at the small Baptist College I attended. We never doubted that Holy Sepulcher is the authentic site of Christ's tomb and just thought of the Garden Tomb as a neat example of what the authentic tomb may have looked like before the Byzantine Church got ahold of it. My trip over there was one of the best experiences of my life.
Great work
Christ is Risen! Christ is King!
Watch Expedition Bible. This guy proves that church of Holy Sepulchre is true burial place of Jesus✝️
What is Expedition Bible and who is this guy?
@@therealong Expedition Bible is a CZcams channel that uses archaeological evidence to prove scripture and historical Christian sites in Israel/Jerusalem are real. It's a great channel, and he has a book on Amazon about it.
@@willw1753
I don't doubt that archaeologists do exactly that, i.e. to uncover mysteries of the past, but their intentions might be different though.
Did you delete your previous comment on the CCC? lol
However, after watching this video, another unknown channel, on the same theme and from two days ago, popped up and I watched it too. Here's the title if you'd like to watch it and then tell what you think:
*Garden Tomb vs. Holy Sepulchre: The Quest for the REAL Tomb of Jesus*
Christ is King! Happy Easter. He is risen!
“Expedition Bible” has a great video on the archeological record of the tomb of Our Lord Jesus. He is Risen Indeed!
edit: for anyone wondering it confirms the true tradition that Jesus’ tomb is below the church of the Holy Sepulcher
Religion for Breakfast has a really good and in-depth video in the same subject. Essentially zero chance the garden tomb is the correct site.
Most Protestants would agree. Most say it was a tomb like the Garden Tomb, the original probably destroyed but might have been at the traditional site.
Case closed.
@@bobinindiana case not so much closed, the evidence for the site of the Holy Sepulcher is far better.
@@mac3441 Thanks. Many Protestants agree with you. Very few believe the Garden Tomb is the actual site but most Protestants believe the Garden Tomb is the type of tomb used in ancient Israel.
No one believes there is any scientific evidence that Catholicism is correct in saying Mt. Sinai in Egypt 🇪🇬 is the actual Mt. Sinai.
800 Evangelicals attended Easter Sunday sunrise service at the Garden Tomb this year. They would not have been allowed at the Catholic site as you know.
@@bobinindiana so they claim it’s the tomb of Jesus because it’s not but it’s sort of like what it might be?
Non-sequitur and also not sure if that’s even true. I’ve never heard any Catholic confidently confirm where Mt. Sinai is.
Protestants are allowed to attend Catholic and Orthodox liturgies and historical sites. They just don’t believe in the apostolic authority these churches claim, and reject our doctrines of the Eucharist, so they couldn’t fully participate in receiving our Lord because of their lack of communion to the church. So that’s a lie they wouldn’t be allowed there.
Settled Protestant here. I appreciate this video and Im glad i watched it. Something that bothers me in the baptist/non denominational culture that I'm a part of is avoiding all things Catholic.
Catholics emphasize tradition so we must scorn it.
Catholics emphasize beautiful architecture so we must avoid it.
Catholics emphasize church authority so we must reduce it. (This one especially bothers me, since Scripture clearly establishes a real church authority).
If we go on and on, we refuse to believe even Lutheran or Reformed Eucharist because it's an inch too close to Catholic.
These things make me want to say: well let's get rid of the Trinity and say Christ is only a man. Let's become Pelagians and say man is inherently good. Let's no longer worship the Father and Son and Spirit at all since the Catholics do so.
I have recently been wanting to look more into the RCC and EOC to see what we Protestants can genuinely learn from your traditions, seeing as any form of Protestant is in itself a tradition however low or high.
I'm grateful that Christ's tomb has a beautiful building around it. And I would hope to visit both sites perhaps one day. Doing a pilgrimage would be absolutely amazing.
I've much to disagree with you about Trent. But this video has been my favorite and I'm grateful that I have no disagreement with you here. Great content
Hi, Antiochian Orthodox here. If you want to look into these churches, I highly recommend the Sedevacantist Roman Catholics and the Slavic/Antiochian parts of the Orthodox. They retain the most tradition/consistency with the past over all. may God be with you.
Trent you should do a review of Jubilee's latest video on Black Christians vs Black Atheist's. One of the Christian's is a Catholic and she did extremely well in representing our faith.
Oh, I've heard about that video! It's awesome to hear that a fellow Catholic stood strong in their faith in such a diverse conversation. I’ll take a look and maybe dive into a review or discussion about it in a future video. Thanks for the heads up and for being part of our community!
I'll go with history and traditions
That's a wise intention. You won't go wrong...😇
As opposed to what?
@@Hokum48protesting, obviously.
@@otineyskciderf I will stick with God's word over man's! I hope no one is insinuating they will take tradition over what the Bible teaches!
@@Hokum48 keep protesting
He is not a God of the dead, but of the living.
My grandmother died while her only child (my mother) was in Jerusalem. My mother knew that the tomb in the Church of the Holy Sepulchre was the more authentic but she went to pray at the Garden Tomb while her mother's funeral was happening on the other side of the world. She went to the garden Tomb because of the flowers and birds and blue sky. I have celebrated the resurrection in both places.
Sad you referenced the Jimmy Akin’s video negating the Holy Fire during the Orthodox Holy Saturday (I’m Catholic by the way), I would possibly have put your video on my Facebook account. Except this, great video, thanks a lot. Jesus is risen!
His video on the Holy Fire was extremely respectful, what did you find wrong with it?
CHRIST IS KING
Let us pray for our Protestant brothers. He's risen!
The fact that all the signs for the Garden Tomb are all in English are a big red flag, like I wouldn't expect a thousand+ year old pilgrimage site in the Middle East to cater so much to English speaking evangelicals lol
Interesting thing to consider!
Makes sense with the map you showed near the end. John tells us Jesus was crucified near the city,
Verse?
@@seriously235 John 19:20
Know your history friends! ¡Viva Cristo Rey!
At as a protestant myself, I would love to visit the garden tomb, and the holy sepulcher, because regardless, the term is empty, no matter where the tomb actually is. Christ is risen!!!
Yes it does matter ! Amen brother ✝️
Poor Protestants. Going to the Holy Land must be tough with the holiest sites in Christendom housed in Catholic and Orthodox churches.
Rest easy, we do not covet your sites. We go to other places to avoid the kind of divisiveness that exists between us. Your Church in Jerusalem is a crowded tourist attraction so you don’t need us around.
Protestants dont do pilgrimages. The sites are historical, not spiritual.
@DPK5201 our Catholic sites are both historical AND Spiritual
@@littleone1656 Constantine selected 2 false sites at least. That stuff is over my pay grade.
@bobinindiana good thing we rely on Tradition, the Bible and the Magisterium and not Constantine to help us determine what is true and what is false.
Thank you, Trent, for this historical lesson. Ultimately, we worship a Christ that overcame death. His tomb is of no significance to me because, unlike all other religious figures, he is not there. He is a God who transcends time and space. He is everywhere.
Catholics claiming the “true” grave of Christ - He is Risen
Just the fact that God Incarnate touched the space is enough to make it significant.
That's a huge reason Christians make pilgrimage to the Holy Land, to walk where Jesus walked.
If the tomb wasn't significant the Holy Land wouldn't be either. Good luck trying to convince anyone of that.
EXACTLY!
As of late many of my Eastern Orthodox friends are even gatekeeping when we celebrate easter sunday.
The date and location are completely inconsequential to the Spirit. The fight over holy lands and artifacts is borderline idolatrous (only Christ knows the heart). These lands and artifacts will eventually cease to exist over time, while the Spirit and Word will live forever.
Alleluia! He is risen!
So much of Protestantism is shaped by a desire to escape Catholicism than by an honest adherence to the truth
No we study the Holy Bible God's Word! his word is truth!
@@Hokum48 indeed, but there are many questions which the Bible does not provide clear answers for, like the location of Jesus’ tomb, which is why you need continuity and tradition
@@champagne.future5248 okay but just because it's tradition does not mean it's truth! It's a non-essential for salvation right?
@Hokum48 traditions need to be examined to determine if they are true, but as we seen in this case, some Protestants are so suspicions and opposed to Catholic tradition that they will try to create their own alternative traditions based on poor reasoning. It’s silly and an indication of the foundational weakness of Protestantism as an attempt to achieve true Christianity.
@@Hokum48Tradition is what kept the Church alive before the Bible ever existed.
As a Protestant, I don’t think the actual location is as important as the fact that He is not there! Happy Easter to my catholic brothers and sisters! ✝️
Idk man, if we're going to make the empty tomb argument to atheists, it might be a good thing to actually know we have the right tomb at all.
Stop protesting. Come home.
As an evangelical, thank you for this informative video.
The academic channel 'Religion for Breakfast' does a good job with this topic as well..
Thanks for the tip! 'Religion for Breakfast' is a great channel for diving deep into religious topics. I'll definitely check out their take on it. Appreciate you sharing and watching!
I was taught sometime ago that Golgotha (place of a skull) was the place where David brought Goliath's head to Jerusalem after their battle. Is there any validity to this or just a rumor of sorts?
Interesting.
It always depends on how the subject (you) evaluates rumors from truth.
I haven’t heard of this before, but then again I’m not too caught up on that sort of stuff. One could maybe reasonably find it probable if they follow Israel’s movements throughout the land, matching with dates and all that. May take some work to map out the journey, but if there were only a few noticeable places people actually around near then it’s possible.
If it’s one of those “this mystic from X years ago who is alleged to have received a vision of this” type of things, then I would be less inclined. Not because I dismiss mystic experiences whole clothe, but I just find those types of claims to be more of an exercise in trying to tie EVERYTHING together in some way when those types of things don’t have to always tie. Kinda like the rumor/idea that Mary had sewn the Temple curtain that Jesus tore on Good Friday when she was a teenager, even though the likelihood of that is verrrrrrrrry low.
@@jendoe9436 I think I understand what you are saying. Scripture does tells us that David did in fact bring Goliath's head to Jerusalem (1Sam17:54). But all that tells us is that the head of Goliath ended up in Jerusalem, not in a specific spot thereof. I was more curious if there is a Tradition in the Church (or of a Jewish context) of using Golgotha as the specific place where the skull of Goliath ended up or if who ever taught me that was just making an assumption.
At bottom fact is that Jesus died and was buried in "one" tomb, as recorded in the Gospels, and after three days, that same tomb was empty, and He was not there anymore...
Christos Anesti! Alleluia!
I mean I think it makes sense to maybe see both? See the garden for a visual idea of what the setting might have looked like during those days, then go to the Holy Sepulcher. A lot has changed in that area in 2000 years.
Very interesting! I’ve never been and would like to go, I’ve seen the pictures of the hill (a Protestant “Golgotha apparently) and always assumed that was Golgotha, this is good to know if I ever make it there and just for meditation on Christ’s crucifixion at home.
God bless, alleluia!
Glad you found the video eye-opening! It's quite something to learn the stories behind these sacred places. If you do visit, it'll surely be an unforgettable journey. Meditating on Christ's crucifixion with accurate knowledge of the sites adds so much to the experience. Thanks for tuning in, and God bless, alleluia!
They are separate from the truth and Jesus.
Catholicism reigns.
Catholicism is the doctrine of devils
Wow remember you will be judged how you are judging!
@@Hokum48that is not judgement but plain truth!
@@dvdortiz9031
Jesus is the truth He said it! Random thought I had when Jewish people or anyone for that matter come to Christ and are born again, are they saved? They will not be converting the Catholic!
I'm protestant and I agree with Trent lol
I've wondered lately what do protestants really protest against? lol
Stop protesting then. Come home already.
@@otineyskciderftell Rome to stop making up non-biblical dogmas like papal infallibility any Marian dogmas. I’d rather lean on the scriptures that Jesus read and the writings of the people HE chose than the traditions of a church government that has very muddy historical record.
@@c2s2942 you do know the "scriptures" were assembled by a pope, right?
@@otineyskciderf No, they were canonised by an Ecumenical Council
Curious fact: the Anglican Communion, when it was more protestant-evangelical oriented, at one point officially endorsed the Garden Tomb, so much that the Anglican Cathedral of Jerusalem was built close to the Garden Tomb. But since the Anglican Communion became more anglo-catholic it has come to recognize the Church of the Holy Sepulchre as the true site of the tomb even if they don't have a designated space for worship there. And I'm not sure about this but I think Lutherans also recognize the Holy Sepulchre since there's the Lutheran Church of the Redeemer a few steps from the Holy Sepulchre.
Per Gavin Ortland in his book about theological hills to die on, this isnt even an ant hill worth discussing.
Ave Ave Christus Rex
In summary, it's extraordinarily difficult to remain pr*testant when you visit the actual sites that are significant to Christ's time on earth, so they have to distract people away from them.
It is fascinating how Protestants think Catholics aren't real Christians and vice versa.
So what do they protest against at the end?
@@therealong The Catholic Church
But in all honestly, how likely is it that all sites in Jerusalem attributed to Christ are authenthic? The tomb is probably the most likely one, but the others…
@@denniselroy4517
I understand that, but WHAT exactly?
Thank you.
Hey Trent! I think at 6:18 you meant that the tomb is located INSIDE the modern walls of the city, but outside from the ancient wall. Just to clarify!
Poor protestants….
Always protesting
Protestants usually have it right 😂
Just teasing brothers
They would have nothing to protest against otherwise... 🤣