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Ranking the Top Lacerda Board Games in our Collection
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- čas přidán 16. 08. 2024
- Join Anthony and Frances as they rank the top 6 Vital Lacerda board games from their collection.
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7:37 Number 5
14:24 Number 4
19:06 Number 3
24:17 Number 2
32:16 Number 1
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Kanban is my favourite of the series and other than escape plan its probably the easiest to grok. You really need to give it a try!
I am sure you guys gonna like Kanban EV a lot. It's our favorite Lacerda
Yeah we need to try it.
@@AntLabGames The theme in Kanban EV works in a really strange way (for us at least). I agree with you that the car theme does nothing for me in a sense. That must be one of the worst themes you can put in a game to attract me. But the theme in the game is so strong in a very elegant way that it totally works for us, even though we don't like cars at all. You should really try to get this new version to the table. I was so pleasently surprised by how the theme worked in my favor, despite it being about cars.
Yeah, Kanban EV #1 Lacerda
Weather machine #1💯❤️✨
The Gallerist is my favourite too - great theme, lovely components, complex but understandable (& thematic) gameplay. I’m looking forward to Weather Machine.
Same here!
1.Kanban EV
2. On Mars
3. Weather Machine
4. Lisboa
5. Gallerist
6. Vinhos
7. Escape Plan
Inventions might be 3 or 4 once it comes out.
Love your #1. Whenever I play I want to play it again once the first play is done. We recently got another Lacerda game, and when we play it more it may be my new #1. The two you are missing were a surprise! I thought you had them.
Wish we did and look forward to acquiring them.
I'm taking a look at your #1. I'd never heard anyone rave about it before, and I love your phrase "it makes you feel like you are a gallery owner doing the job of owning a gallery" or words to that effect... TYSM
You won’t be disappointed by this one.
My favorite Lacerda game is Lisboa because that’s city where I live, fantastic game.
Thank you so much for this video 👍
Thanks!
CO2 the only game of his I’ve played and I love it. Gonna have to pick up another. Always like the look and theme of Lisboa
That’s a winner for sure!
I am like you all Vital Lacerda games dominating 6 of my 7 top games of all time with Gaia Project/Terra Mystica being the only other up there with those Heavy Weights. Here are my rankings:
1.) On Mars
2.) Kanban EV
3 .) Weather Machine
4.) Lisboa
5.) Escape Plan
6.) Vinhos 2010
7.) The Gallarist (Only played three times, you all have inspired me to keep being it out to give it a few more shots.)
I am not a fan of Co op games so I have not tried CO2: Second Chance
Also, I am in game five of Weather Machine and wondering if it will make it to my second spot. It is sooo satisfying to chain four major actions together in one turn. I think I like the games, with the exception of Kanban EV , that allow you to take more turns than your opponents with good planning.
I recently tried out Gaia Project and I have had so much fun!! I’m a big of Lacerda games as well but I haven’t tried out co2 or inventions
#1 Kanban OG. #2 On Mars. Kanban used to be overwhelming, but now plays quickly (was 3rd game after Catan, and Power Grid).
Yeah we need to play Kanban EV
This was great. Thanks for putting it together.
I've only played 4 Lacerda games so far and my ranking is 4) Lisboa, 3) Weather Machine, 2) Kanban EV and 1) On Mars 🔥 A friend of mine has Vinhos & The Gallerist, so I hope to try those too in the future👍
Awesome let us know your thoughts after you play them.
I own only two Lacerdas. On Mars is fantastic, but to me, Kanban EV is even better! Great video! Thanks, guys!
Kanban EV playthrough coming real soon!
@@AntLabGames I’ll watch that for sure! Funny how almost everyone in the comment section has Kanban EV and On Mars right next to each other, whether they’re at the top or at the bottom. Since you obviously love On Mars, you’ll probably love Kanban EV as well. The game hasn’t really changed a lot from the first editions, but it feels like looks and presentation are important to you, as they are for me. I haven’t played the older versions, but the rulebook has a small section with the few changes. I’m currently waiting for the upgraded metal cars and the Upgrade Pack for Kanban EV. They were sent from the US on July 27th or something like that, and they landed in Norway this weekend. Just waiting for the shipment to arrive…
I tried Kanban online once, but have to try it again as I wasn’t ready for that weight of game at the time. My wife and I have and enjoy CO2, even though we don’t win. The one on our list to try next is The Gallerist for sure! Thanks for the great list and suggestions!
Thank you!
I agree, I love the Gallerist. It is not the heaviest by a long shot, but it just sings to me and is heaps of fun. You guys need to try Kanban EV...it is so good. Ranking these is tough...all of them are great games. Would be interested to see how you rank Mindclash Games or games by Stefan Feld.
More lists are in the works.
Hello Anthony hello Francis, I have just watched your big box Lacerda top 6 and first of all I would like to congratulate for your awesome great review and comments on this ingenious game designer. I am a proud owner of the CO2, the Gallerist, Vinhos, Kanban, Lisboa but I don't have Escape Plan and On Mars. I totally agree with you that the Gallerist is Lacerda's best board game. You really feel like a gallerist, the theme is really perfectly implemented. In the second place ranks Lisboa then I would say Kanban, Vinhos and the last, CO2.
You're really do a fantastic job giving your highly appreciated comments and reviews to the boardgamer community on this planet.
And, as well, the way you present your game analysis and playthroughs is "unique".
I wish you a very merry Christmas enjoying a lot crunchy games these weeks. Big Hugs ! Your big fan Wolfgang
Thank you Wolfgang! This means so much and have a wonderful Christmas as well!
The Gallerist is also my favorite. As an Artist who's sold photography to galleries I'd tell you its so informed by the process. I'm preparing to explore Lisboa as I've never played it. I also completely passed on Weather Machine and On Mars. I just didn't like Weather Machine but I am intrigued by On Mars, I just think it's hard to take that game to the groups I play with, heck thats why I don't play the Lacerda's I own.
And I am crazy excited about the new one coming supposedly this month. I think it's goign to number 1 for me.
For me it would be:
1 The Gallerist (son to be struck down by Inventions)
2. Kanban (also very much the way auto makers work in my experience with Ford, Honda and GM)
3. Vinhos
On Mars will probably eventually come into my collection, but CO2 and Escape Plan are a pass for me. And Weather Machine is a hard pass. Lisboa is a strong maybe.
Good video! Here is my ranking of Lacerda’s games:
1) Kanban EV
2) On Mars
3) CO2: Second Chance
4) Vinhos
5) The Gallerist
6) Escape Plan
I haven’t try Lisboa and Weather Machine yet.
Man we really need to play Kanban based on all these rankings!
The only game I own besides Bot Factory, is the Gallerist. It's a beautifully executed game, with lovely components. Lacerda games are definitely not for the feint of heart, but they are worth it.
got the top two :) the number one game was what got me into lacerda and i remember anthony's solo video on it as one of the reasons i bought it!
Awesome!
I think your ranking is pretty spot-on with mine out of the ones you listed, although I haven't played The Gallerist yet. Do you prefer the 2010 or 2016 rules for Vinhos? And co-op or competitive for CO2? My rankings of the ones I own:
1. Kanban EV
2. Weather Machine
3. On Mars
4. Lisboa
5. Vinhos (2010 rules)
6. Escape Plan
7. CO2 (competitive mode)
Kanban is my top too!
We prefer 2016 rules and cooperate for CO2
Love the Gallerist! Currently my top fave as well but still need to play Weather Machine and Kanban EV.
I haven't played the Gallerist, but would like to try it. Weather Machine may pass On Mars as my #1 Lacerda I've played
I knew you number one. The reason was one of the other possible ones is too new and the other I don't recall you guys doing a video on it. Also your number one I believe it is the best at two.
Good deduction!
My top list
1) co2
2) kanban
3) on mars
4) the gallerist, vinhos ^^
5) lisboa
6) weather machine
7) escape plan
0) bot factory. I love this.
Nice! The Gallerist is an awesome game. Always love to play it. My informal ranking would be: 1. On Mars, 2. Kanban EV, 3. Lisboa, 4. The Gallerist, 5. Weather Machine, 6. Vinhos Deluxe, 7. CO2: Second Chance, 8. Escape Plan - but it's close among the top titles, and I enjoy them all.
We enjoy them all too and it is so hard to rank them.
Really entertaining video, thank you. I have all my Lacerdas at No 5 in my top ten. The best one is the one I just played😄
Thank you!
Of the ones I played:
1. On Mars
2. Kanban EV
3. Weather Machine
4. Vinhos
5. Lisboa
Great list. My rankings are Kanban, The Gallerist, Weather Machine, Lisboa, Escape Plan, CO2, On Mars, Vinhos. I’m biased to the ones I have developed.
Hey Paul! We really do need to try Kanban EV.
Nice video. My ranking: 1. On Mars 2. Lisboa 3. Kanban 4. Escape Plan 5. CO2 6. Vinhos 7. The Gallerist. With the exception of The Gallerist I seem to rate them similarly to you - the theme of The Gallerist maybe didn't click with me. The top three can switch around on any given day, as can the bottom four. Haven't played Weather Machine yet but looking at playthroughs I imagine it would be somewhere in the middle. Vital is both mine and my wife's favourite designer and our top ten lists would have at least three of his games in (they would all be top 50). Thanks for your work.
We clearly need to try Kansan EV and see where it fits.
Omg!! The gallerist it's my favorite Lacerda game too!!
Awesome!
Vinhos is, in my opinion, pretty straight forward to play. Definitely best at 3. The Wine Fair piece is a bit clunky to be honest
I have never played CO2 or Escape Plan, but I can almost guarantee after your comments that Kanban EV (one of my favorite Lacerdas) is one you would like better than either of those.
I love Lacerda games and I understand the need to rank them but also apologize for lower ranking games…because they are all excellent. I usually tell people my favourite is Escape Plan because it is quick and fun and easy to teach people so it hits the table a LOT. Vinhos and Lisboa are also high ranking because I find them relatively easy to teach and simple for people to pick up and get into. But I think On Mars is lacerdas best game and I always want to play it more but length and complexity to teach means it hits the table less. Kanban is fantastic and my wife and I love it, but we tend to play it in bursts because of how fiddly and how many bits there are to set up. Gallerist is somewhere in the middle for me. Great game but it just doesn’t compel me to play it over the others.
If Lacerda designed Monopoly, he would have 8 pages dedicated to establishing an LLC 🤣🤣🤣
Kanban Drivers Edition was my first Lacerda game and I honestly didn't like it. It was ugly and busy. After playing On Mars and Lisboa and loving them, I went back to Kanban EV and ended up loving it. Kanban EV just feels so different with Ian's art.
The gallerist is an amazing game indeed, but Kanban is still the best one for me; and I see it remaining like that for quite a long time.
I own a 1st edition copy and prefer that art to the new EV one. I know the board is busier and hard for new players. But EV feels futuristic for what the setting is, due to its colour palette. But I will say the speech bubbles system for meetings is way better than the original sits.
Feeling more and more like we need to get a hold of Kanban EV.
Your number 1 is the only one that I own. Escape Plan and Vinhos are on my wishlist. I've got Bot Factory coming from the Kickstarter. I'd love to see your rankings for Alexander Pfister.
That may be next!
Bot factory is the llittle brother of kanban. Is awsome...he have energy of kanban but he play to 45mn/1h. Kanban 2h30~3h. It s à great introduction in lacerda 's world ^^
I love you, guys. Regards from Poland.
I have Vinhos and I feel like The Gallerist feels the same. Your creating value then selling it. That’s why I’ve hesitated to get it.
Great list. Actually all the Lacerdas are so brilliant that it's really tough to rank them. For me On Mars tops the chart only because i like the theme the most. Otherwise On Mars, Lisboa, Kanban, The Gallerist, Vinhos, CO2 are all brilliant (haven't played Escape plan).
Czekałem na ten film. Fajny ranking. :-)
Thank you!
Kanban EV is really great you guys should really get your hands on it... out of all the big box Lacerda ones it's in my top 3 of his games and i originally didn't think i'd like it. My least favorite of his is Escape Plan... we really mostly play these games at two players and that one i'm not that keen on at two.
We are going to get Kanban at some point for sure.
i would like to see a top list of your favorite designers
That’s a sure possibility
Kanaban EV is my favorite. Mostly because it plays great solo. These games are to niche and hard to to get to the table frequently, so solo is important.
We will be doing a Kanban video very soon.
My ranking is a little different - I like more open & I typically play Lacerdas at 3-4p:
1. Lisboa
2. Vinhos
3. Gallerist
4. Weather Machine
5. Kanban EV
6. On Mars
7. Escape Plan
Unrated (due to no plays): CO2
Escape Plan I just don't love & is the only one I sold. On Mars may be a little unfairly low, but I need to re-learn it in order to play it again and I don't find myself wanting to and no one ever seems to request it.
Interesting ratings. I appreciate the difference at a higher player count.
Very surprising that you have the gallerist above on mars and lisboa and even more surprising you dont own kanban or weather machine hehe. Would agree weather machine lisboa-ish bit a little stronger imho. Not sure how anyone could like or dislike on mars and kanban ev differently as to me they operate very similarly (not thematically).
1.On Mars
2. Kanban EV
3. Weather Machine
4. Lisboa
5. Gallerist
6. Vinhos
7. Escape Plan
8.CO2 (justnot a fan of co op)
My list:
1. Lisboa
2. The Gallerist
3. On Mars
4. Escape Plan
5. Vinhos
6. Kanban
7. Co2
Very close to what you have 😮
Very close indeed!
So sad that Kanban EV didn’t make it. It’s my favorite Lacerda! 😢
We just have not played it.
Lisboa is my personal Favorite Lacerda. Gallerist is probably my second. 🖤 -Nathan Biangel
Hi buddy! Lisboa is excellent for sure. Such a tough group of games to rank.
@@AntLabGames oh I totally agree!
Totaly Agree with your Number 1
✌️😊
Great video. Which one would you recommend for solo?
For solo I think Vinhos was my favorite but ranks low comparatively to other Lacerda games.
Kanban is my favourite Lacerta - brilliantly thematic, and doesn't feel like work to me, but I don't do that kind of work. 🙂
We are interested in it.
For Vinhos, do you play the 2016 vintage or the OG? Oh and please do similar list for MindClashGames!
We could do Mindclash, but we don’t own a few key ones. We could do the ones we have though. It would be a short list lol.
I was always interested in Escape Plan, but I really really dislike push your luck. On Mars would probably appeal to me the most. Ever play it solo?
I have yet to try this solo, but have heard good things.
1) Lisboa 2) Wheather machine 3) Gallerist 4) On mars 5)Kahnban 6)Vinhos (only 3+)
I've never played one but would love to try one. Which one do toy think is the easiest to get to the table as far as remembering to rules?
I would say Mercado or Bot Factory to start.
Did you factor in player count when determining your order? We have found that our ranks vary if factoring in 2 player only vs multi player.
Yes this is our ranking as it pertains to 2 players.
@@AntLabGames I think all of the heavy Lacerda games are better with more players because of how interaction is handled in most of his designs. CO2 (not the cooperative mode) is a good example of a game that feels a little "flat" with 2 players. The Gallerist is a good choice for number 1.
Primordial might be the word you were looking for 😅
That’s the one 😂
The challenge and difficulty to stop climate change in CO2 is very much on theme.
Agreed! It’s just not always fun to lose.
I’m working on getting all the VL deluxe games. I’m smarter for just owning them.
That’s for sure!
Kanban is his absolute best
Hmm. I put Escape plan on the bottom. Gallerist and Lisboa top for me. The rest in between. Weather Machine is too much work IMO.
I guess I'm missing out on something good. I've not been a Lacerda fan, but I've only played Lisboa once and did not like it. Now I'm wondering if the person who taught it to me did not teach me right. All I've ever heard of these games are great things. Maybe it's time to take a second look! And yes, Anthony, there is a game (good game) in TMB. 🤣 Thanks for the video.
Maybe we need to sit and play a Lacerda Ken.
Do you have a playthrough video of On Mars you can link? Searching CZcams is horrible. Thanks!
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@@AntLabGames you're awesome, thank you!
Ok i have to ask about the gallerist. This is a game that my group loved then after 3 games we found a game breaking exploit with one of the patrons. It has been a while so i dont remeber which color but basically they are over powered and if you get more of them you just become unstoppable. Now the fix i got from lacerda is dont play that way but why would you not? Havw you guys experienced this and if so how do you stop it?
Have not experienced this but am intrigued…
@@AntLabGames My group has played a couple games (3p and 4p) where we found several players aggressively hoarding Investors (brown) and fast cycling the contract bonus that offers 2+1 money for every Investor + Collector.
My big concern is with the mechanic that allows a player to voluntarily eject a Collector when selling art and choose to align the contract card on the Investor bonus. This oddly powerful option ensures several things:
1) The player doesn't need to eject Investors so is easily able to hoard his pool, denying other players, and reap in large rewards each time he uses the bonus
2) Collectors are NEVER in short supply while Investors are
3) Collectors are not as valuable as the specialist visitors. A Collector helps increase artist fame, which inherently is an action that will often benefit MULTIPLE players; the other visitors only ever benefit the player holding them.
4) The acts of buying art -> gain contract -> (use Investor bonus if avail) -> sell art -> use Investor bonus... does not inherently advance the game clock very quickly. Any time an action exists that is both demonstrably lucrative in victory points and is the slowest to advance the game clock is screaming of a game imbalance.
Would love to hear from other folks who have played the game if they have experienced similar or have other viewpoints.
The counter we were told was try different strategies, but if you have one that always wins why would you not use it?
@@randybookmanI haven’t played the game, but to me, the most important thing is to have fun, not to win. I constantly try out different strategies in games I play a lot, to see how that will work. I may not win as much as some other guys, but I am constantly having so much fun. Of course, I prefer winning to losing, but I think I prefer experimenting to winning. The way you describe this, it seems like its not really fun playing that way, so why would you? 😂 Like Vital Lacerda said. If its a problem to you, play differently.
@@oschiott True, but I also don't think anyone plays a game to lose and it's not fun when there is one strategy that will always win. Experiment all you want, Gallerist has that problem. Ever play the original few acres of snow? Similar issue till someone fixed it. I would love to play gallerist again, but ever since that was discovered, my group won't touch the game anymore. It makes me sad.
@@randybookman I understand your feelings, and I’ve noticed that in a couple of games myself, like in Scythe and Tapestry, but they fixed those issues in later printings. It can be really annoying, especially when you play with guys that won’t like the experience if they don’t win. They will of course try to play optimally every time. I’m sorry if it ruins the experience for you guys, and I hope you can come up with, or find, some house rules to help you enjoy the game again. That’s what games are for, at least to me. Fun!
CO2 is the only Lacerda thays stuck around in my collection 🤣 That's only because it's the only that didn't TOTALLY feel like work to understand lol.
I am curious, do you mostly play these games 2p or with more?
Yes, about 85% of the time we play with 2.
No Kanban EV or Weather Machine?
We don’t own either yet so we couldn’t put them in our rankings.
CO2 must be played as COOP game. It is an amazing experience
Agreed!
CO2 sounds like you're going to work and the game board looks like a powerpoint slide.
Indeed lol!
How do you like Escape Plan at 2p?
Prefer it at 3+
I was excited to try Lacerda but after a slog through Lisboa, I think his games just aren't for me. A bit too heavy for my tastes.
They are heavy for sure!
No Weather Machine? ☹️
Wait until the end…
Weather Machine was my first Lacerda. The art and premise had me day one. Now I’m interested in On Mars. Love everything you guys do! 👍🏽
Weather Machine is a solid design buy still The Gallerist, Lisboa, On Mars and Kanban EV are a better games so recomend to try it before choosing the newest one
@@staaniach21 yeah none of the other theme’s interested me. The art and theme of Weather Machine was what drew me to getting it.
@@staaniach21 I disagree
kanban?
Co2 is also my least favourite.
And btw, you just described exactly why i hate so much Robinson Crusoe 🎉😄 thank you. I have the same feeling about that game.
Ha glad I’m not the only one!
Not a Lacerda game, but your comments on CO2 reminded me of Captains of Industry. I really like so much of what that game does, but the abstract circular board design really hurts the experience.
Imo On Mars is his best game and it's not difficult at all.
I really REALLY wanted to love CO2, but it just didn't work for me, and I have stayed away from the rest of his games because of this one.
You are missing out on some incredible games. CO2 is our least favorite.
@@AntLabGames I'm sure, On Mars look great but I was worried about the reasons that I didn't like CO2 may mean that I don't like heavy euro board games and I didn't want to spend the money to take that chance. I may have to reconsider though.
Lol Didn’t realize that my wife and I don’t play any real boardgames.
Don’t discount what you do play and enjoy! These happen to be some of the heaviest board games in the hobby so they are certainly not for everyone.
Co2 theme not coming through? worst graphics? what?
So many yawns, Momma needs a nap! I miss those days, but at the same time I don't.
Haha you nailed it! Baby boy is not a great sleeper.
I think CO2 is supposed to be difficult and punishing reflecting the actual challenge of climate change.
Rank Lacerda … easy. All Last! They are terrible games.
Disagree!
Nothing more annoying than 90 seconds of waffling before announcing the name of a board game. This video could be 5 minutes shorter and be SO much better for it.
Others would disagree.
@@AntLabGamesYes, I agree. I like the suspense, trying to deduce what games you’re talking about. Keep the format!
On Mars is my favourite, although it’s supposed to be his heaviest it just makes the most sense to me . I’ve backed weather machine, but it looks really complicated, I’ll be hoping for some good play throughs 😊
Weather Machine is good and I think it may be lighter than On Mars. Only slightly though.
Weather machine is much simpler than On Mars. Closer to a lighter Kanban.
@@Bullsnboards I’ve never played Kanban
Weather Machine is a beast to comprehend, probably as hard as On Mars, but it is sooooo worth it. If you love On Mars you will love Weather Machine.
I have play weather machine solo, and it worth so well. Just now i bought and play kanban ev solo. I love weather machine more.