5 top tips to STOP keyless car theft (protect your Range Rover)
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In this video I talk about 5 tips to help prevent keyless theft of high end luxury cars. I use the Range Rover as an example, but the tips are very applicable to most cars.
00:00 Intro
00:29 Disable keyless entry
02:09 Faraday cage box
04:23 Faraday cage pouches
05:43 Physical barriers
08:49 Identification & recovery
10:50 Conclusion - Auta a dopravní prostředky
Just frustrates the hell out of me that i paid £80k for this car and i have to turn off some of it's features out of fear of losing the entire car... what is this world coming to...
A fool and his money are soon parted.
Give us black Peoples better jobs and take us from the hood and we’ll stop.
Still Worth It To Have Such A Lovely Car..👍
Once you've bought it and parted with your cash they don't give a crap
Just buy an old School Steering wheel lock. It only takes an extra 30 seconds to arm / disarm, and is a good self defence tool should someone attempt to car jack you.
Novell idea, how about a key hole in the door and a key hole in the dash so you have somewhere to put that massive key. Use the key to unlock the car and start it. Forget all this wireless stuff, all it does is make it easier to steal. Pretty tough to steal a car if you cant get into it.
Many years ago, I had repeated unauthorized entry to my vehicle. I superglue'd razor blades to hook and loop velcro and attached it to the underside of the door handles and hood release. I never had the problem after locating the fingertips (3 in total) and blood down the side of my car door and on the ground. I removed my devices and rinsed the driveway well while giving a fresh wash to the car! Us Marines aren't known to play!😎
Holy sh1t, actual fingertips?
Indeed, devil
@@zeropointenergy777 Is that a compliment or disapproval? 🤣
Kinda sadistic
I love you
About 10 yrs ago after a spate of car thefts in the area my mate started putting his dog in the car at night. One night he was awoke to screams and his dog barking, went outide and found big patch of trouser material with a lot of blood on it, dog came back 10 minutes later tail waggy and a big grin on its face. 4 hrs later police came round accusing him of having a dangerous dog. Thief had gone to hospital for quite a few stitches and had complained to the police. Showing the CCTV saved the dog from being put down and thief was knicked
Typical , karmas a bitch
So many in the comments don't understand - just turn off the keyless entry function. They'll be an option in your car's onboard system to do it. Also worth noting that several manufacturers have now brought out key fobs that deactivate after a given period of rest. Hence, they're inert after resting and can't be bridged. Both our new cars have this functionality.
Thanks for that! I'm looking at brand-new second-hand cars. I'm considering a Camry, but they all have keyless entry and keyless start. I'll have to find out if the keyless entry function can be turned off.
Thanks for this video, it was extremely informative. I've brought a brand new car a couple of days ago and it has a keyless entry option. I didn't even know what it was until I saw your video. I'll make sure I switch they off straight away and invest in a Faraday box 👍
No need for the faraday cage, you can turn off the key fob so it won't transmit the signal. On my Toyota, I hold the lock button and press the unlock key twice.
Modern thieves can unlock and start new cars without the need for a signal from your key, rendering the need for a Faraday box. I speak from experience. I believe from my research, thieves who have access to a powerful diagnostic tool/computer programs can create a key wirelessly from their devices and then start the car via the OBD port
@@AsceticFocus any tin box will do - biscuit tin etc , even just wrapping your keys in alfoil will stop them piggy backing your signal.
Get yourself an immobiliser and tracker with a steering wheel lock as a visible deterrent. This keyless function is something that doesn’t seem to be particularly desirable from a customer point of view and seems to make the cars insanely simple to steal.
@@AsceticFocus .. not quite so. U just have TO UP the anti...
OBD II Port Lock OBD2 Connector Lockout Prevents Access to Vehicles Computer Through OBD2 Connector..👍..
And all u have to do after that is simply take OUT UR battery FROM UR fob. Cant detect keyl . That's what my car say when my battery is drained.
And last but not least I purchased a brake pedal lock. .. it's not that sturdy so I'm going to hone depot TO HAD some length with wood so it snuggle in to the floor. so it cant move. Not even the pedal.. ..
They will have to bring the flatbed to get it.. 😊 just saying.
Thansk for video. I never see people in expensive cars putting steering wheel locks or putting any ballards to stop car being stolen. They want to feel rich and conveniant all the time without the whole fuss.
If I ever get keyless car I will install some for of engine cut out ( non factory immobilizer,cut out switch or /and multi lock pin to lock gearbox).
The manufacturers should be held accountable. They can't now say they are unaware of this major flaw and yet they keep producing vehicles with this flaw but even more puzzling is that people order keyless entry and pay more for it...
Hey bro I’m from high Wycombe and a big fan of range rovers and own one, thank you so much for your video, really helpful.
Specially keeping the key safe, I will definitely do that, as I just leave it in the hall way, we’ll done!
Regards AJ
A couple weeks ago a car was stolen from a residential car park in the Cressex area. The owner used a Faraday bag. My theory is that the thieves have now upgraded to using a CAN Bus injection attack. They access the CAN bus via the head lights and send a data packet telling the car's computer that the key is present and validated. It then opens all locks and allows the engine to be started by the thieves.
What can owners do to defend against that?
@@bornachfit a ghost immobiliser. £500 all in.
The manufacturer should be sued for poor security they should recall and fix it what happened to old key and lock there should be fingerprinted scanner to start car and code to start car
Don’t wanna go down fingerprint road, people be getting fingers cut off
Range Rover deny there’s anything wrong with their keyless entry. Yet they are stolen here 1-3 a week, without any keys…… Range Rover official comment to me “we can’t be expected to beat the thieves getting cleverer”
Well there you go, Cop Out!,
I'd like to see a new player to join the industry and give these same old car manufactures a wake-up call for them to change, just like what Apple has done to Nokia and Blackberry.
Very informative, thank you!
Thanks for the useful tips namesake, priceless. I heard you say you've never heard of people stealing you car while you are shopping and wanted to advise that this is the predominant method that is used in South Africa. The house security out there, especially in the cities, is like Fort Knox, so the easiest place to steal you car is while you are out shopping. Someone follows you carrying what appears to be a laptop bag and this is the signal booster/relay for the key fob signal!
Wire in a kill switch take forever to figure it out.
Wow …. I would have never thought of this! Soo crazy. I would have been an easy target. Now I will be more observant. Thank you
My car was even stolen WHILE I WAS AT THE GYM in London England.. And yes they 100% follow you and scope you out
One time codes will defeat that.
They should have 2 factor authentication at least as well as making it impossible to hack the OBD port or CAN bus. It’s negligent engineering and class action lawsuits should be filed to force car makers to get serious about theft prevention.
@Bryan-fn6lp Brilliant comment.
1000% agreed. The ongoing car thefts over the past, too many years, needs to be stopped.
I'm extremely shocked and angry that the car manufacturers haven't nicked this yet. All the info is there in your comment... now, come on, engineers, get this situation to a non-issue!!!
Too many folks still haven't a clue their car is a high risk for theft.
Faraday boxes etc stop working after awhile.
Here in canada the theives are following car owners, copying the key signal, then just scope out the car to find the best time to just take the car.
You can turn your wheels, add a steering wheel club, add a port lock, install a non gps tracking system and still...if the theives really want your car bad enough...roll up a flatbed to steel it that way.
This world is so far crazy it never going to right itself....just saying. And yea, I know a few who has their cars stolen.
🙏🕊🐾
Another tip, 007 style, tyre-spikes line across the driveway and 3 bollards. It’s taking more than that in the Uk these days but it definitely will do the job.
As soon as I bought my new Land Cruiser last year I bought a Faraday box and pouch and put both the land cruiser and our BMW keys in it. I actually put them in the pouch then put the pouch into the box for double blocking security, just in case. While not as bad as other countries car theft crimes are increasing in Japan now and here the number 1 stolen car is actually Land Cruisers I think followed by Mercs, BMW and Audi's.
Very helpful. I've gone through 3 Faraday Pouches for my RR.
Initially I couldn't start the car if the key was in the pouch. Over time this stopped working and I could start the car even when in the pouch.
Gave Up Using The Pouch, It's A Tight Fit for the Key And Flattened The Key Battery!.
Faraday pouches do not wear out.
Funnily enough, you must be wrong because I've had two do exactly what the guy here is describing. Pouches just stopped working after about 8 months. Get a new pouch, key no longer works when in the pouch again.@@rogerphelps9939
All very good tips. Thanks for sharing.
When I was shopping for a new car in 2018 I asked the sales guy to show me only the cars with physical keys. I bought a Subaru with an old school key.
Some very good tips, thanks.
DIY key fob Faraday cage.
Tuna can as the container, large tuna can as the lid.
Wrapped in aluminum foil because tin cans typically have a coating that prevents good electrical connection between the container and the lid.
I mean if you can afford a Range Rover, surely you can buy a cheap faraday box off of Amazon. Good idea though.
Use a high end quality brake pedal, or accelerator pedal lock and put the lock barrel towards centre console or buy 2 one for each pedal, very good items.
Its no bother for me, great items 👍👍👍👍
Thanks for the super helpful video.
Mercedes (Keyless Start at least) - just click LOCK twice (Lock-Lock) as you walk away. The red LED on the key fob will blink a long blink, and then the entire key fob will go to sleep.
When sleeping, the transponder is OFF and will not respond to "Relay Attacks". To wake it up, just walk towards the car and press Unlock as normal.
Do this Lock-Lock to your spare key too, the one left in the front hall.
Easy as pie. The Lock button will wear out twice as fast, but the battery will last for years.
The Faraday pocket pouches can also be used to block RIFD theft for yr credit cards!
In Africa we have an auto engine cut out built into the car that can only be avoided by pushing a hidden button somewhere near the driver - usually under carpet or the side of the fascia. If this button isn't pushed, the car cuts out. Not high tech but does the trick!
In America we call that a kill switch.
Cheap and simple, always best 👍👍
Doesn’t work on an EV
How many African countries have you been to?
Wonderful, thanks for the tips. I keep my smart key in a safe pouch, in the pocket of one of my many coats in the mud room by the garage. The heck if I'm going to bring the key to the bedroom everyday ; )
Great video , thanks. I am planning to install a kill switch .
He is helpful to both the thieves and the owners.
Number 1 tip, if you have a garage.... get rid of all your collect junk and park your car inside the garage. 😅
I use a small biscuit tin as my faraday box. My car allows keyless entry. So to test the effectiveness of my tin I simply put the keys in and went to the car and tried to enter the vehicle. If entry cannot be achieved then the box is acting as a faraday cage.
Very informative video.
Great advise I’ve ordered 2 boxes
Nice one Anthony 👍 better safe than sorry!
Iv often thought this myself 😤
A D V I C E
A biscuit tin is cheaper lol!
Excellent advice 👌
Your the first person that explained this the correct way , I do have one question , what if some has already gotten your car key remote signal but have not stolen the car yet would doing these theft preventative step still work?
Rolling Codes prevents this (codes used only once), but some reports say that some (bad implementations?) have been cracked (can be predicted, extrapolated).
If you have a Range Rover it probably won't start anyway, so it can't be stolen. Brilliant!
😂
The issue with making car theft harder is, that they turn to hijacking and catch you as you reverse out of your driveway. The issue with disabling keyless entry on Toyotas, is that you have to do the procedure everytime after a key is pressed on the remote - so that defeats the purpose.
Superb! Thank you.
Good tips Felix, thanks from the states... Hide an off on switch for your fuel pump or starter, you asked for thoughts 🙂.....
Great video, thanks
You had me wondering where you second box is! Thanks!
I have a range rover and use a Disk Lock which is approved by thatcham . The police also approve this steering lock.
The thieves attended to steal my car attempted to break the disk lock barrel and could not do it. Steering bars are in my opinion a poor alternative to the disk lock. As can be forced breaking the steering wheel.
thanks for advice greeting from 🇩🇴
Great video.
I had my Range Rover stolen last year using the relay method I have just bought a new Range Rover and use the faraday box for my new key I’ve put the key I kept from my stolen Range Rover out of view near the front door so if they try again the signal from the old key will mess with their heads they will get a sign all but think their equipment is faulty. 😂
In South Africa they do follow you in the super market with relay devise so rather be cautious. Use the pouch all the time.
I just pulled the gutz from my '23 Chevy key fob, switched the battery out with a small lithium battery and charging module, and added a switch between the battery and the remote, no need for a Faraday box or pouch
I will be making an aboriginal leather necklace to house the remote
The remote only need to be on for a few seconds when you unlock and start the car and when you lock and arm it
no need to be broadcasting the signal for someone to record the signal from your pocket when you are out and about
I've ordered 2 pqcks for my new car, and my sister and my daughter, and my hubby.
Another good tip....
Land mines in your drive. As well as stopping thieves, this has the added benefit of keeping dandelions at bay.
Be sure to tell the postman, though, or your letters will get a bit messy.
Useful, though tried disabling the keyless entry on my L405 and it didn’t work - realised that it was because I was standing outside of the car. Tried it whilst sitting in the car and it worked - might be worth making that clear…..
…open the door?
GREAT video & advice,, My tips on protecting my pride & joy,,,, l have own a Range Rover sports for 4 years now, they are the highest stolen cars in this country,,, LV car insurance will not insure this type of car anymore, as they told me they were losing too many,,,,,,, let's just be honest, if you can afford one & drive one, then you need to immediately spend a little bit more money getting it more fully protected,,,,, (1) disconnect the keyless function,, (2) always put a good steering lock on always,, (3) always put keys in a mission darkness pouch,, (4) get 24/7 tracker company tracker fitted,, (5) get a ghost 2 immobiliser fitted,, l know nothing is full proof,, but you want to steal my pride & joy,,,,, l will not make it easy & you will work bloody hard for it,,, 🤣
if someone is so brazen to come into your house for your car keys they will bash you over the head if your keys are by your head, trust me
Well in the US we have the 2nd amendment and in my state of Texas we have permit to carry and be aware when u sleep dont sleep too deep and have that iron ready 😉
@@johnblack4915that sucks to be honest 😂
@@Ali-zv1yk 😄
Right the first one is best disable keyless secondly buy a obd safe have it hidden then put a dummy one in its place with a 12v feed to blow there diagnostics up cost about 600
Someone needs to make a system that has Face ID and if it doesn’t recognise you it locks the door and blasts the peppa pig theme song bass boosted at 100 volume
Exactly, we need fingerprint or faceid features in such expensive cars. We have them for less expensive laptops and phones!
Question:- first tip - if you turn auto unlock off when you come close to the car or by touching the door… how do you start your car? Doesn’t it work the same way?
When they use those relay units don’t they scan your house for the key to 1. Unlock the car without the key and 2. Start the car without the key?
Wondering if it’s just stopping them from getting in the car only? As I’m guessing your key still works inside the car?
Great video though!
What about the Ghost immobiliser?
They use the relay to get into the car and then connect to the OBD to program their own fob. The car makers should be able to design the OBD to use an encrypted connection with MFA.
Hi Felix, Nice video thanks. However, I have a 2018 Vogue SE and the 'disable keyless entry' in your video didn't work for me .....until I went through the same procedure with the drivers door open !😀
You can put a chain the alloy wheel spoke and lock with a padlock and also can put it through a kettle ball weight.
Your comments were interesting, however I have one question for you please, in that do not all these expensive high end vehicles come factory installed with vehicle tracking systems? I would at least expect them to be or am I wrong? I would be very interested to know please.
Many thanks.
My mum had power switches installed inside the garage to disable power to gate and garage door, physically, when they retire for the night. She thought of that one decades back and it's clever.. get an electrician to do it, it's like just turning off a light switch when you close your garage door for the night.
She must have met my Gran ! not only did she do that , but she had a power roller shutter at the TOP of her stairs so if anyone got in at night they could ransack the downstairs but she was safe in her upstairs rooms.
@@robertcroft8241 Now that's clever too, make upstairs a safe room! Nice one!
You could put an intelligent home timer on it so you can turn it on and off from your phone without going to the garage (and hide the switch in the garage better) and/or automate it so if you don’t want to have remember every night or forget to do it, it turns off after your bedtime and back on in the morning. If you are out very late one night and it is off when you get home in the car just turn it on with your phone from an outside location where your wifi is available
Also don’t press a button on the remote over and over especially in the same place - for example pressing lock 2ce or more. A potential hacker near by has better chances of breaking the digi cypher with multiple outputs from the key fob
#this This is a great point you make!
People should be mindful of the fact that Faraday pouches and boxes are not forever, some pouches stop working after a month or so. I tested pouches that no longer worked, then decided on a box, in case sliding the fob in/out compromised the lining. My not cheap Faraday box was tested after 3 months to find it allowed me to start the car with the key in the box, despite careful use. There must be a plethora of people who would discover their Faraday box or pouch no longer works. Unlock the car, return the key to the pouch or box, get in the car and try to start it. I now use a Defender pouch and replace it every month regardless. £3 a month for peace of mind knowing the fob is protected from relay thieves. Nothing worse than believing your fob is protected from relay theft when it is not, and your car is not there one day.
Great vid mate! I wonder why manufacturers don't include a faraday bag pouch, surely its a quick win for all
You'd think so Mike! Although perhaps that would mean the manufacturers would have to admit their systems are not very secure...
The dealer would say "Sorry your car got stolen... wanna buy another?"
I keep saying the same thing. They are so cheap and when ppl pay big money for their vehicles..they should supply everyone
An on/off switch would be better.
Signal timing checks to ensure the actual fob is within required range of the vehicle rather than being relayed would be a nice method.
Another method would be for the fob keyless entry/start features to turn off when the fob is stationary for a few seconds.
Faraday bags / pouches are useless they leak signal degrade v quickly . And lead you into a false sense of security .. . Experience talking here .. .
Avoid them .. they are not the answer .
What do you think of the Security company Ghost
Get A ghost 2 immobiliser fitted. 🧐👌🏻👍
*Good show.*
After 18 months of use the Halfords Faraday pouch was found to be defective, this I found out by accident having started and parked the car with the key fob in the pouch. Repeated tests proved the pouch was no longer working. Subsequent investigation revealed that you regularly need to test the pouch for reliability if you carry it around and put in and out of a pocket. Felix how do you reset the Land Rover key remote to enable keyless entry once disabled?
Is there any point in the Faraday box/ pouch if you disable keyless entry?
Can we recover keyless entry function or it will be gone forever?
What helps me is a $8 driveway monitor which if anyone walks on my driveway an alarm sounds in my house telling me someone is in my driveway.
I encourage everyone to remove the fuse for your OBD port so thieves cannot connect and create a new key fob. Just hide the fuse in the car to reinstall if you ever need it.
Well I just figured a way around this after watching two videos on the subject. they ( thieves) will simply drive up next to you at a stop sign or down the road. get your info and wait until you run into a pub.
Take the engine out after driving it an keep the engine in your bedroom an just re fit it next time you drive it
I think if you are going to have a car like this you need a garage, ask your insurance company if it will reduce the premium were you to garage the vehicle. Having a tracker is recommended and well worth the money. As with anything of value you need to think of the security element and cost. An isolation switch could be useful to have and if fitted properly might pay for itself. Keeping keys inside your home is something to look at, maybe a decorative safe built into the the wall and given a fake mains cover for example. The spare keys should be accessible but not in an obvious place, maybe with a neighbour you can trust. Technology can be bypassed so take that into consideration. A krooklock might be handy so the handbrake cannot be released without a key. Take professional advice and also ask the local police if they have any information to assist you.
Insurance do ask where the vehicle is garaged, but they are asking what zip code you are parking it in. I was licensed in all 50 states, and none offered a discount for parking it in an actual garage. I suspect, this is due to the vehicle leaving that garage and being parked anywhere.
Yea I got my car stolen yesterday…. Should have done these
Put a heavy chain and padlock around the steering wheel then down around the pedals.
Range Rover SVR along street has one. Small inconvenience to the owner.
Has been looked at several times by thieves but they can't be arsed not to mention its under high end cctv sending notifications to the owner and behind a bolted gate.
6. use the garage if u have one and its big enough..not for dumping crap you dont want in the house, not for a spare room but for housing the car..out of view..if you dont have one and have the space and money...get one built
7. ford cortinas in the 70's took longer to nick than range/land rovers in modern times..i think it was 6 seconds!!
Or you could get a Ghost II immobiliser, which prevents the vehicle from being started even with the key unless various buttons in the car are pressed in a bedpoke sequence.
They can still get the car, I live in an expensive area in Essex and people with gist alarms still get the cars stolen
@@leonhenry4861 fact
This is annoying as I’ve just paid £500 for a gost 2 to be fitted I have a tracker and kill switch hisdden also
But they have gps blockers also 😮
@@Nellsta buy a disc lok and also look into anti shatter windows.... You can add that effect to your glass.
Good ideas - but what about ways thieves use to steal these vehicles without utilizing your FOB- pick the lock , once inside they download the security code from the car port under the dash and transfer it to a new FOB- I saw a video of this and it was done in 3 minutes
Hi folks. Turn your wheels into the curb. Or just make a new habit to always park ur car with turning ur wheels before shutoff plus use a steering wheel club too.
Install a port lock AND an engine immobilizer plus a kill switch.
Install a tracking system... NO GPS... that can be disabled by theives...such a simple cut on antenna = no more gps!!!
Turn off the fob signal every time ...
Look at your car....now picture it gone....yea, do all u can to layer deterrence so u can always see ur car!!!
God bless all 🙏🕊🐾
I disabled keyless entry on my Evoque. Caused the battery to go flat because for some reason it caused the rear number plate lights to stay on without me realising it. Had to call out Land Rover Assist twice. Re-enabled keyless entry and now OK. Know of same thing happening to another Evoque.
What!! That is completely bizarre. Good old Land Rovers.
Get a kill switch or even two …. Works every time …. Nam Jamaica
The best free way to keep your car safe, especially on holiday if you have an automatic transmission if you remove an essential MOT required fuse, the horn fuse for example, the car can be started but won't let you take it out of park so can't be driven. There is no way a thief will know why its not shifting gear and they will have to give up.
Good tips.
Security is always a compromise between strength and convenience. The stronger the security the less convenient it is to use it.
I solve the problem of car theft by welding all the doors shut and removing the engine. It's not convenient but the car's never been stolen... 😂
Tip #6 Don't go to Liverpool
Nice one
I just pull the motor out every time i park. Works a treat.
Transponder keyless entry is such a security issue that I'm surprised it's even legal for vehicles to have the feature, for the same reason why all vehicles must have an immobiliser. (At least that's a legal requirement in Australia.)
Install a Ghost £350 + vat inc installation Custom Ice (on the A406 Hall Lane Chingford) used them for 30years
Everyone should get a ghost immobiliser
Need to be aware that the people who install imobilisers sometimes do other jobs on the side, if you know what i mean. Hahaha.
People will wear a hood and avoid letting their face being recorded.
Setup cameras to look at cars driving up to your house, angle the camera to capture the number plate.
The best anti-theft system is the IGLA, which requires to touch some switches in sequence once you enter the vehicle, otherwise the car will NOT start, even if the thieves have the key! The other method is to hide a cutoff switch to the fuel pump! Less expensive than an immobiliser systems!
i have a faraday pouch which is good and use it, i have cctv and automatrix tracker, what i fail to understand is how on earth can possibly MISS OUT the main thing thats stops the thieves from driving off in your car - A GHOST IMMOBILIZER, it is almost impossible to bypass and any thief hellbent on trying to remove it, will have to do enough damage to the cars electrical system to render it undrivable anyway
felix, have you overlooked something, when you open your car, and are driving, surely anyone passing maybe in ques of traffic car get your frequency from your incar device, can you once started your engine put the key into a faraday pouch, but would this switch the engine off.
Yeah I thought the same thing, can't they wait for you to come out and get the frequency but I suppose that's why you have the other features
With the chained gates how does the postman visit?
Both/all boxes/pouches need to be really well hidden!
Check on a Ghost II immobilizer system
great tip do what i did leave UK , here in New Zealand my Range Rover much safer, locked in garage.
Lucky man! New Zealand is a paradise it seems :)
Thank you for showing me how to put a key in a box, but do I have to use my right hand or will either do?🤪
Cover the VIN on the dash. So it can't be read from outside the car. OBD lock.. or install dummy OBD port. Yes.... keep your vehicle keys away from car in a faraday box. Spare keys should be hidden and with batteries removed.
On an S class, a quick double press of the keyfob "lock" button turns the keyless system off... any key fob button press turns it back on....do it when you put your key away... painless
You did not mention Ghost Keys. Do you consider this a deterrent?
No keyless entry to my car after this :>
You might already throw your smartphone, tablet & computer, since your personal data can be stolen at any moment.
Fear is not the right motivation to stop using a feature.