Keyless Car Theft: 3 EFFECTIVE Methods of Car Anti Theft
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- Keyless car theft is STILL very common! In this video, I will show you 3 Car ANTI THEFT methods (WITH PROOF that THEY WORK!) that will prevent vehicle theft of your keyless Entry car using a keyless repeater. Often referred to as relay theft or a relay attack.
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Although keyless entry is convenient for owners, it was inevitable that keyless car theft would emerge, with car thieves using a keyless go repeater to intercept the signal from your car keys. Thankfully, there are now some really good car anti theft measures that you can employ
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Keyless Car Theft: 3 EFFECTIVE Methods of Car Anti Theft
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Watch the video and it will show you 3 car anti theft THAT WORK:
1) Tin box with lid - Simple but effective car anti theft prevention from a car thief!
2) Faraday pouches - Buy a good one and it will block the keys’ signals and give great theft protection for your keyless entry car!
3) Disable keyless entry - Most manufactures include this feature built in. It takes seconds to use and is great stolen car protection.
I hope the above helps to prevent keyless car theft of your pride and joy! Keep safe out there!
00:00 Keyless Entry Car Theft Prevention
00:10 Keyless Go Car Theft Prevention
00:20 How many cars stolen USA 2021
00:30 Keyless entry anti theft
00:42 Car Relay Theft Prevention
01:07 Keyless Entry Faraday Pouch
03:43 How to Disable Keyless Entry
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I use the faraday shields you have mentioned and a steering wheel lock. I have also covered the vehicle vin number at the windshield location so that it cannot be scanned and used to program a key fob for entry by the thief. They can do this in a mall parking lot and use an air tag to track your vehicle to your driveway. and use the fob they have programmed.
Hi, I never thought about the VIN being on display and the information helping the thieves but that's a good point! Did you know that on the latest Iphones and IOS software update, that the phone will tell you if an air tag is following you? I met a friend for a drink and he was carrying an air tag and after a few minutes my phone buzzed to warn me that I might be getting tracked! Cheers, Phil
Car manufacturers should improve the key fob by simply put an on/off button on the device.
There are other methods, for example a one minute timeout on the key fob. To reactive it, push any button or penetrate in the narrow zone around the car where you can open the door.
Or simply stop emitting signal as soon as the key fob exits the zone.
All of these methods would have the side benefit of saving by much the time life of the battery.
All good ideas above in your comment. It does seem like there are a lot of easy ways to fix this but manufacturers seem to be really slow in reacting.
Car manufacturers ate crooks themselves, as well as dealerships. Anyone who is super rich cares about noone but themself. Charity shouldn't be done to be seen by men. That's paraphrased from the Bible.
@@ReviveMyRide I find it hard to understand why the people who have had their cars stolen due to this defect have not initiated a class action lawsuit against the manufacturers. Undoubtedly this would result in a sudden and not-surprising "realization" among the manufacturers that its an issue they need to address immediately, not whenever they might maybe get around to it in ten years or whatever, as seems to be the case now. Or maybe there are such lawsuits already, but my (limited) googling did not turn up anything significant on that. Anyway, thanks for the video. I am using the key-in-a-tin approach for now.
What is particularly odd is that the car manufacturers say this key-fob method of auto-opening the car is for our convenience, and yet the solution of putting the key in a Faraday pouch, which is bulky and does not fit easily into pants pockets like keys do, and also can wear out so that we are unwittingly still vulnerable, completely neutralizes whatever "convenience" they thought we were interested in. If pulling out my key from my pocket and pressing the Open button is "inconvenient", having to go through the grueling process of dealing with a stolen car due to their negligence of design so far outweighs the convenience of "oh joy I didn't have to press the little button!" as to be beyond laughable. It feels a lot like criminal negligence to me.
@@vbywrde Hi, I agree with your points above. It doesn't seem like car manufacturers thought it through. They had this concept that you walk up to the car, it unlocks automatically, you jump in and press start engine and you're ready to go BUT unbelievably, they don't seem to have considered what could go wrong. Personally I don't like keyless entry and go but many modern cars don't even have the option to turn this off! Cheers, Phil
Wheel clamp works well. It’s a very obvious sign, and takes time and effort to remove. I always remember policemen saying that criminals prefer an easy life, so hopefully they move on.
It is good to test the tin & Faraday pouches regularly as the materials can degrade & leak signal, heard of people still losing their cars due to their Faraday pouches leaking signal over time. Also worth getting a steering lock to further slow or deter a thief.
Thank you, that's a really good point that I didn't mention in the video (wasn't aware of it at the time) but yes, apparently the faraday pouches can degrade! Also, another +1 for crook locks, they're making a comeback!
I've had exactly this and I regularly check my faraday pouches to make sure they are still 100% albeit I also switch off the key anyway.
Those pouchs make the key fob batteries go dead.
Thank you for your video❤
You’re welcome, just a few tips that I have found to work. Hope they help you 👍
I can't understand, knowing that this keyless entry is fundamentally flawed, they continue putting the in new car... this is called devolution..
I know, I'm like 😖 I see lots of modern cars where owners have resorted to using crook locks! It's like we have regressed back to the 90's! 😂
Very good video. Thank you
Cheers, I’m thinking about doing a 2nd video with some additional ideas and tips, seems a hot topic! Thanks, Phil
Wrap the fob in aluminum foil, works great and my FORD dealer agrees that this is a method also.
@jhardman4534 Thanks, I think this would be a good alternative option for the spare key or storing the key on a night to keep it safe. 👍
Works for idiots but not for organized crime. They will wait for you to take it out and leave with your car before you even think about putting the foil back on
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I too use aluminum foil ... ever since I got a Faraday pouch, and discovered it did NOT work when I tested it. That went in the trash, and now my key fob gets wrapped in simple aluminum foil when needed. Its like the tin can in the video. It works perfectly.
Remove batteries of spare key@@ReviveMyRide
Right on!
Thanks!
Great tips and all three are ones I use. There’s another more expensive option called SEER which is supposedly a fix for the relay problem.
Hi, really appreciate your comment and the additional info! 👍I did a bit of reading about SEER and it does sound like a good addition, particularly for vehicles where valuables are left inside. Just for others reading this comment, here is a LINK to an article: vaistech.com/the-security-benefits-of-seer/
❤I put a ghost immoboliser on the wifes 340d. Its quite handyas you can still start the car but as soon as you put it into gear it shuts down unless you have entered your personal code first
I've heard a bit about Ghost recently and have done some reading, really does sound like they really are the business! Cheers, Phil
Place the keys in the fridge. I know it sounds weird but it works
I do both plus a "Club brand" steering lock used and the "Cop Lock" on the brake pedal with plunger to firewall.
Good point, I think in need to start using a crook lock. They may seem a bit 1990’s but they work!
I use an aluminumized mylar bag - from cough drops. Tried it out next to the car and when folded over it blocks the signal completely. At home I keep the keys in the bag with a binder clip holding it closed which also allows it to be hung on a hook for convenience. A crisps bag would also work if you don't mind the greasy interior. Which is why I use a cough drop bag.
Cheers.
Some good tips, cheers! Just shows that you don't need a fancy faraday pouch!
Also keep the Fob in the pouch while driving. They can steal the signal if they're beside/behind you at a light. Then get your car once you park it.
I never thought of that! Thanks for sharing! 👍
Nice 👍🏻
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I heard of one guy that took his vehicle to a clever mechanic that was able to make some kind of a Kill Switch that worked off a Back Seat Safety Belt Buckle. You couldn’t start the vehicle unless you buckled that particular seat belt together first. A clever idea though I’m sure some would find it a bit annoying. I wish I had something like that, soI’m going to ask a Buddy who works at the dealership I bought my vehicle from who he knows that might do such things. That and a Steering Wheel Lock-….. Slows them down.
Hi @2WildBengals That seat buckle idea sounds really good! As you say, might be a pain for the owner but gives some piece of mind. Apparently steering wheel locks can be a really good deterrent, there's lots out there and I've never used one but a lot of people mention Disk Lok on forums...
@@ReviveMyRide I have “The Club”… takes up as much room as a Snow Brush. Takes 5 seconds to apply to the steering wheel AND it’s Visible from outside. So could be they would see that, figure not worth the extra time it would take to try and remove. As well, if they were even equipped with q Hack Saw, they could only cut a section out of the steering wheel to remove it quickly as the Club itself is made oof Hardened Steel. Cutting the steering wheel Damages the Vehicle AND their Profits in lost expenses to replace it.There’s other brands of Locks out there, but The Club was First. You could do a Google search for anything considered better.
@2WildBengals Thanks! Will look into The Club, I like the sound of it being quick nd easy to fit and remove. 👍
@@ReviveMyRide Yes, quick and easy to remove… With the Key!… Just don’t lose the keys 👌😁 (Comes with 2).
Thank you this is excellent you can also add a pedal to steering lock. And a steering lock.
These delay the guys
Yep, good point, I almost forgot about these devices. Old school but they work. Anything that will delay a thief has the potential to put them off! Thanks, Phil
Of course taking the battery out of your spare key works pretty well too.
Yep, great for a spare that you don’t use often. I’m always misplacing my keys (in the house somewhere), so I need to keep both keys in game to give me more chance of finding them! 😂 cheers, Phil
Great
Thanks! 🙌😃
The key on my Ford goes to sleep after 40 seconds to prevent the relay attack. you can also disable the keyless entry on the actual car if you look in the settings.
My fobs are always stored in a Faraday box but it was stolen anyway. It was recovered 5 days later but took 106 day to get it back. It impossible to cover the vin number on either of my cars.
Excellent tips about protecting the vehicle. Most cars do not have the additional disable feature for their Key FOB. I use the shielded pouch method, and have a shielded box near to our front entrance where I keep the Key FOBs.
That's a good idea bout the shielded box near the front door. Occasionally, I forget and drop my keys there when I'm in a hurry, our tin box is upstairs. This is the obvious place to drop your keys and thieves know it! I'm going to find a box for downstairs now...
Ravelco anti theft device works well
I just watched a video on Scotty Kramer about how to protect your car from being stolen - simple remove the fuel pump relay switch - it’s in the fuse box on most cars just simply pull it out car won’t start - In the morning put it back in and away you go call Stephen nothing
Simple and effective - like it! I have a couple of cars that I don't use for long periods of time and I usually disable them in some way, usually a fuse as you suggested to make sure they don't get stolen while laid up. 👍
Your absolutely right but here is another method. Remember, the object here is to provide an electronic shield around your fob. You can do the same by wrapping a piece of aluminum foil around your fob. This works just as well. Do the same to your credit cards.
Hi, a few people suggesting the foil now! Thanks for sharing, I think it is a great solution if you watch this vid and want to do something straight away 👍 And yes, slightly different topic but apparently people scanning your cards (like a contactless payment) is becoming a big problem!
The new Mercedes Keys (late 23) shut themselves down after a couple of minutes of being stationary, but I wish they still had the double press to manually switch off as if the key is in your pocket it's still transmitting. I think some in between keys did have both, the double press and auto when stationary but now it's just auto-shutdown when stationary. When you pick the key up again it has a movement sensor and automatically reactivates.
Thanks for the info, wasn't aware of this. Good to know that Mercedes are at least trying to do something about the issue!
My car is under the constant watch of my cctv camera at night, it has it's registration number etched on all windows and headlights and I use a Krooklok on the steering wheel/brake pedal. Both fobs are kept in Faraday pouches. if anyone wants to steal my car they'll have to work bloody hard at it.
Your voice sounds like Jim Browning's, & thanks for the video
Thanks! I've had this before! Do you mean the Jim Browning CZcamsr that exposes scams? I went for a listen and just don't hear it 😂
how about disconnecting a relay switch from the Engine compartment/fuse box!
@chuyocaca4153 I think that would work but may be a bit of a pain to keep doing every time you come out to your car. Great idea for if you are going on holiday and leaving the car for a while though! 👍
For my Canadian Hyundai Sonata PHEV 2016, if you want to disable the Car Key Fob, Hold the Key Fob Lock Button 4 seconds. After the 4 seconds, Keep Holding the Car Key Fob Lock but also press the Car Key Fob Unlock Button for 2 seconds. This will stop the continuous RFID signal from Key Fob. If you try to open the car door by pressing the button on the car handle, it will not open (unless you have another set of the Car Key Fob still emitting with you). Another benefit to disable the Car Key FOB, the battery last longer. If you want back the continuous RFID signal, just press the Key Fob Unlock Button. This will keep your car to be stolen by thieves with relay attack where ever you are. Make sure to do this for all the other Car Key Fob of the same car (especially when you are at home) unless it will allow thieves to relay attack because they will catch the rfid signal of the others Car Key Fob.
On my Lexus I’ve got ghost fitted plus I’ve had the alarm modified to go off if the front bumper is pulled, got faraday for keys but don’t use a steering lock, if they get past the first two defences they will just use a grinder to cut the steering wheel to get it off, then find out it won’t start. Hate to think how much a modern steering wheel will cost to replace.
Wow, that's a very comprehensive approach! I'm hearing a lot of good things about ghost! The steering lock is a visual deterrent tbh, hopefully thieves see it and decide they can't be bothered... Cheers, Phil
In my old car, I had a toggle switch under the drivers side floor mat, this switch would remove or apply 12V to the ignition coil.
Honestly, if you are able to fit it yourself, there's no better solution! I have something similar on one of my older cars 👍 Cheers, Phil
I have a newish BMW and this is keyless but you have to press the unlock button -does this still mean the car is constantly try to talk to the FOB ?
Hi, there are two different systems on modern cars: keyless entry & keyless go. Keyless entry gives thieves an opportunity because if they can intercept the signal, they can get into the car without the key. Once in, they have access to the OBD port and with the right equipment, can program a new key. If you car doesn't unlock automatically when you walk up to it, it doesn't have keyless entry (or it is disabled) and theoretically, it isn't "talking" to the car all of the time. I have a 2015 BMW and this is exactly the situation with mine. Even so, it is still a good idea to keep your key in a faraday pouch or away from the car on a night because your car might have "keyless start" where the key just needs to be present to start the car, this can also be replicated through a relay attack as described above. Hope that helps! Cheers, Phil
I have 2 faraday boxes. A small box that I put in a larger box. I park my van in a way that blocks the other 2 in. So, would be car thieves will have to move a van first. Combined with a security system that a passing cat will trigger, and VOILA! Which is French for (And then, I found out). Adds some difficulty to take my cars. Good luck with CAN injecting my van. It is hell just to replace the bulbs. You have to remove the entire headlight assembly, which is a bitch. The reason that I say "adds some difficulty" is because if someone really wants to steal something, they will. And they will try hard. They should put that kind of effort into getting a legit job. Stealing, especially from the everyday working person who is barely making ends meet, is a low, shit move. Even the working person barely making ends meet is WORKING, not stealing. Some people put a lot of faith in The Club steering wheel lock. I know guys who can zip through them in seconds.
Hi, agree with your comment "adds difficulty", hopefully it is enough to make thieve go elsewhere! Also agree, if they put the same determination into a job and career, they wouldn't need to steal stuff! Cheers, Phil
Just go into the menu in your car's infotainment system and there will be an option to disable keyless entry. Doh. It's the first thing you need to do when you collect a new car. Instal PIR lighting and get a camera that monitors where tour car/s are parked. Get a house alarm and a key safe fitted. Remove the battery from spare keys. Put a steering lock on the steering wheel - doesn't stop theft, but slows them down/acts as a deterrent. Oh and always make sure the car's steering lock is on and check the car is locked after you press the key fob. Most car thefts occur where the owner has been careless. Thieves will just move on if you make it difficult.
All good tips! Sounds like you take your car security seriously! And yes good point, there have been a few occasions when I have thought the car was locked and it wasn't! Always worth double checking, as long as keyless entry is disabled, otherwise you can be going back and forth a long time! 😂
I use the faraday pouch .
I still use mine too and I still keep the spare key upstairs in a drawer in a tin box!
My understanding is that Volvo’s key fob will automatically go dormant if not moved for, I believe, 15 minutes.
Please correct me if you are a Volvo technician with a different take on this.
A friend recently had his car stolen at an airport car park. It would seem they were able to pirate his key fob's signal when he locked the car before boarding the airplane. Anything he could have done to prevent this? I assume it can also be done at a shopping mall after you park your car and shop for a few hours.
Aw man, that's like a nightmare scenario, feel bad for your friend 😞 It's hard to avoid this happening. A lot of manufacturers have made the range of their keys shorter but it can still happen. A lot of people on here are advocating a separate immobilizer than needs a little keyfob to be pushed into a plug once you're in the car. Also, believe it or not, crook locks that lock across the steering wheel are making a comeback. These take time to bypass and not something a thief wants to be doing in a busy airport or shopping centre car park... Thanks, Phil
@@ReviveMyRide great idea! I imagine they envision a quick and painless scenario where they pirate the signal jump in and drive off. The steering wheel lock , unless they came prepared, would throw it monkey wrench into their operation. I will consider buying one. Thank you
a good counter measure is a nightvision camera with a textmessage warning system and a gun 😉 eco friendly solution
Maybe in the next video! 😜
haha :P@@ReviveMyRide
Garage works good.
Honestly, it’s the best option. Obvs not everyone has this option available but if you do…. 👍
Works well if you put your key fob in your reading glasses case.
An acquaintance of mine who works for the police says that thieves have a way around the faraday cage as well. Not sure what technology they use, but maybe there’s a way of scanning through a number of different key responses to fool the car keyless system ?
Hi Ole, a worrying thought! I'm confident that the stuff that I am doing will protect the keys / car from a relay attack but yes, I wouldn't be surprised if there are other methods that thieves use, where they try to transmit a signal to the car directly without the key! I'll have to look into it, maybe another video! 😂
@@ReviveMyRide The over load of the key response system being done through electronic signals would parallel to a mechanical lock being picked with mechanical pick keys. The moral of the story is there is no perfect defense to a well informed and/or equipped criminal,
@@e8iMm7KE999 sadly, I agree. Professional thieves will always find a way. Can only try to make it more difficult and potentially not worth their while and deter the more casual opportunist thief.
Can always add a Steering Wheel Lock, something that will slow them down. That can be easily removed by cutting through the Steering Wheel with a Hack-Saw, but that takes more Time. Then, the Steering Wheel has to be eventually replaced. That Costs someone in the Theft Ring money and aggravation.Most of these Losers in life who care less about you or your Honest Hard Earned Property are in a Rush to just make the hit quick and then be gone. If you can slow-’em down with a Steering wheel lock like The Club or some other such device, they may pass your Ride down for an easier theft on the next street.
@@2WildBengals There was a news story here in Australia recently about sales of club style locks going up because of keyless car thefts.
yes it costs approx £500 and it does not take long to book in and the security level is unmatchable
Thanks for the info, so a viable option for higher value, more at risk cars. Cheers, Phil
kill switch
obd 2 protector
club backwards key towards the dashboard so it can't be drill or picked
faraday pouch
Like it! A 3 step approach 👍 I need to look into crook locks a bit more, haven’t used one since the 90’s… thanks, Phil
Keyless entry is a stupid idea whats so hard about pressing a button to unlock. I have a vauxhall mokka with keyless entry but you can turn it off in the settings in the car.
You’re so lucky having a car where you can turn it off! I agree with you, pressing the unlock button was fine! IMHO the negatives of keyless entry far outweigh the advantages…
A simple on/off switch on the fob might work.
That’s a great idea, like the volume switch on an iPhone. That would be great! 👍
Faraday pouch good pocket protector why not Faraday pocket ???
Its soo annoying that Im watching this now after its too late. Soo frustrating. Makes me sick to my stomach. I thought this only worked if the keys were kept close to the front of the house or in the porch. Mine were kept upstairs and they still managed to pick up the signal. For some silly reason I didnt even think they would pinch my car as it wasnt even that new and it still happened. Will have to get ready for some hefty insurance premiums. Sad times.
Really sorry to hear ☹️☹️☹️ All you can do is try your best. In the comments, a few people have mentioned Ghost immobilisers. Costs £500 but apparently bullet proof against this sort of theft if you want to go belt and braces on your next car for peace of mind. Cheers, Phil
@@ReviveMyRide Yes. Ive heard about the Ghost alarm. Only downside I see what that alarm is that you can still gain access to the car. You just cant drive it away. So it could still be vandalised. Guess the good old steering lock/bollard/wheel clamp are the other options. Or I may even consider a trip switch or immobiliser that needs to be touched before it can be started.
A hidden switch to the crank sensor.
I like that! A good alternative to the more common kill switch to the fuel pump, which I think many thieves would expect. 👍😎
I have zero worries you're not starting my car even with the fob key i always use my remote killswitch..
Just be careful, most people use a kill switch to disable the feed to the fuel pump. I think it will deter the vast majority of thieves but if they are determined, I have heard about them running a direct live wire from the battery to the fuel pump (If it is an external fuel pump and not located in the tank!) but yes, I also use a kill switch 👍😎
Simply fit 2 different make steering wheel locks which are both effective and a visual deterrent. Takes less than a minute and saves hours of hassle.
I like this approach and really believe in visual deterrents. However, from past experience, they are a bit of a pain to find and take off, especially if you are just popping in somewhere for 15 minutes. But, if you want your car to be safe....
28 11 23, Good tip but there's no clutch pedal in an Automatic.
To Peter. This does NOT matter because these type of locks only fit across the steering wheel and are different from the early versions that did fit around the clutch pedal and the bottom of the steering wheel. These fit across the top only or diagonally top to bottom of the wheel only.
I disabled my 4runner smart key function.
I think that's a good idea 👍
Take the battery out at nights.
Do you mean the car battery or the key fob? That would work but I imagine if you would soon get fed up of doing it every night! 😮
Get a Merc - sorted
If you want the old fashioned way, take the chip out of the FOB and open the door with the key. added: destroy chip.
I like it! Belt and braces approach! 👍
But the vehicle wont start without the fob signal. This wont work
@@jimcollins8097 Ah, good point! A major drawback in Mark's plan! @Mark-sy2bx Change of plan, don't do it! 😂
@@jimcollins8097 Yes it will, my wifes FOB doesn't have the chip and the car starts.
Maybe just take the battery out? Car thieves can't pick up the chip signal if it's not powered. And the chip is the last thing that you'd want to destroy. Most cars won't start without sensing the chip. Key fobs for my vehicles are $,1,200 and $1,500 a set. The main reason that I won't destroy fob chips.
12/11 23, Could the key fob battery be removed & the vehicle unlocked with the manual key that also starts the vehicle. Would add about 2 sec's when unlocking & locking up... or install a hidden Kill Switch - Glove boxes now unlockable.
My understanding is that with a lot of modern cars, the car is looking for a signal from a chip in the key fob. If it doesn't get it, it will say "key not present" and refuse to start. Kill switches are good though, I'm still a big believer in them.
@@ReviveMyRide 25 11 23, Before Keyless entry systems an array of Steering Wheel & Transmission Shift locks were popular - some are still available providing a visible deterrent.
what about removing the battery from the key fob ???
Yep, that would work too, especially on the spare, which you aren't using regularly! 👍
Lynck and co company car keys didn’t worked with aulumin foils
True , I checked that last week. I lost my ford kuga 2023 just last week because key less go shit. Can anyone know How to prevent that and also todat rolling code is also vogue, so how to prevent both methods to car stolen.
Here is my TOP 4 methods to prevent car theft:
1. Install a Kill swtich. If a thief can't start the car, he can't steal your car (unless it is pushed or towed away).
2. Disable keyless entry & ignition permanently. No need to carry a faraday pouch or put your keys in a metal box.
3. Remove the OBD port fuse. If a thief is unable to connect his device to the OBD port, he won't be able to make a copy of the key. If that is not possible, install an OBD lock. You can also hide the OBD port and install a dummy port in its place.
4. Add a tracker like an Apple Airtag with the speaker removed, in case the car is successfully stolen.
Hi, I’ll be honest, I do like the good ol kill switch! 👍 It isn’t possibly to disable keyless entry on all cars but yes, if possible it’s best to just disable if, I don’t think it’s really needed and is just a liability. I like the disable the OBD port idea, it needs a live to make it work and it’s probably possible to disable that (carefully!). I’ve looked into OBD locks and none of them looked very robust…Thanks for the contribution, so good idea there! Cheers, Phil
@@ReviveMyRide I was able to turn off keyless entry/ignition, but I had to pay my dealer to do it. You might be able to turn it off yourself on your vehicle's onboard screen setting depending on what make/model you have.
Removing the OBD fuse is possible if it is dedicated only to the OBD port. My understanding is that, depending on your vehicle, a fuse might power the OBD port and something else. The only time you need to use the OBD port is when your vehicle is having some kind of issue or when the engine light turns on, for example. That happens maybe once or twice a year. Just hide the fuse in the trunk and put the fuse back when you need to. According to my dealer's mechanic, removing the OBD fuse will not mess up my vehicle's functions in any way. That may or may not be true for your vehicle, so check with your dealer.
If you don't want to or can't remove the fuse, you can install an OBD lock. I agree with you a majority of them are not robust. What I would suggest is to reinforce it with a couple of zip ties to make it a little more difficult for the thieves. If you don't have an OBD lock, you can just use an OBD cover with the zip ties. From the videos I've seen, the thieves that do relay attacks don't carry many tools with them other than perhaps a door picking tool, a screwdriver, amplifier, and computer. They expect to steal a car in seconds/minutes. That's the reason even though steering wheel locks are so easy to defeat (less than a minute), they are not completely worthless because thieves may not be carrying tools with them.
One last suggestion I have is to cover your vehicle's VIN # that is visible from the windshield. Thieves enter the VIN# online to get the key code to cut a key.
If I have to choose only one protection tool, it would be a well-hidden kill switch.
Hi @@onespeedlite Thanks for taking the time to provide the extra detail below! Some interesting stuff for me (like the VIN) and good content to help other too! Cheers bud! 👍
l am but a few still around that still have my pride & enjoy, l think,, my answer to the greasy little fingers is,,, l have tuned off keyless entry,,,, put a steering lock clamp on steering wheel,,,,, always put my keys in a mission darkness bag,,,,, have 24/7 vehicle tracker fitted,,,,,,, & last but least a ghost immobiliser fitted,,,,,,,,,,,, the only way to steal, is too pick it up & put on the back of a truck now?
That certainly sounds like a belt and braces approach, good on you for looking after your car so well! 👍😎
are there any new cars that are not keyless in any way. Each one seems to have a engine start button nowadays. Shame!
@barneysman9116 That's progress for you! I remember when start buttons were a novelty and people liked to retro fit them into their cars, now I'm wishing we could go back to key! 😂
@@ReviveMyRide unfortunately if we went back to keys, thieves will just go back to smashing your window and hot-wiring your ignition lol
@@BabySkinCondom That's true and back in the day, you didn't even need the right key. On some of the old Ford and Vauxhall cars, pretty much any key from another vehicle would often work!
Theives can bide their time or stalk to copy your key code and grab your car at any future time. The relay method really only works when they stick a gun in your stupid Chicago face for your I phone as well .
It is disheartening how little auto makers make it this easy for thieves it's like job protection for them
Would NEVER have or want a keyless system, just ripe for theives!
I really dislike keyless entry and start but is is getting harder to find newer cars without them fitted as standard! Cheers, Phil
My one year old Toyota RAV4 was stolen in London on the weekend and I wished I knew prior how vulnerable cars with keyless entries were! Honestly, returning to your vehicle and seeing it is gone is a horrible experience and dealing with the aftermath is just exhausting, so do what this guy says because it’s good advice! Also look up CAN Injection which is probably now taken over from this technique as the easiest way to steal cars with keyless entry!
Hi Adam, I'm so sorry to hear that your car was taken 😢 Honestly, it hasn't happened to me but I have had a few occasions where I "thought" it had gone because I couldn't see it in the car park and my heart completely sank! And as you say, the aftermath of trying to sort things out. I hope you get a good replacement car and best of luck going forward! Also, thanks for the tip, will look up CAN injection. Thanks, Phil
I prefer my Mercedes’ gets stolen when I’m not in it😂
Agree< I've never been car-jacked but it looks really scary! But it makes sense to do a few small things to make it less likely that your car will be stolen while parked and you are away from it...
@@ReviveMyRide i live in america in the south. we don't worry about being car-jacked here 🪖🔫
Why is it not illegal to sell, operate or own one of these devices ?
I assume they might have a legitimate use? If not, then you are right, just owning one should be illegal!
@ReviveMyRide If they R illegal, than they should Not be sold Nor made.
How to prevent your car from the GAMEBOY device? My car was stolen a few days ago and the video footage shows that they used this method. The Gameboy device can confuse your car security system in 20 seconds.
Thanks for the heads up, I never heard of this before! I did some research, seems like sometimes it is a device that has been fitted into a Gameboy, or is just using the Gameboy controls. Anyway, I think the tips in the video should still work. It looks like the "Gameboy" still needs to detect the key and then impersonate it. If your key is in a faraday pouch or box and / or far away from your car, the thieves shouldn't be able to detect a signal from it. Here is a video covering the topic if anyone is reading this and is interested: czcams.com/video/CytINxrUQPk/video.html
Using all is not safe than sorry it is just paranoid. Time to move. More effective living in an area that is not subjected to this type of crime. As stated; move or yank it out and go back to the old fashioned key in the ign.
Take the battery out of the spare key until you need it.
I like that! Good simple solution and the battery is less likely to be dead when you do need it 👍
You have missed out completely about the MAIN PROTECTION against keyless car theft, the best in the world which is virtually impossible to detect or remove the Ghost Immobilizer which makes it impossible to start the car without using the correct code in the correct sequence using only buttons on your steering wheel, doors and dashboard. Use this together with a faraday pouch, have a good tracker fitted also, the only possible way to steal this would be to tow it away on a tow truck! - i m highly surprised that you are ignorant of this system which i have been using on my F Pace for 5 years now and it has never been stolen once despite living in a high risk area
Cheers for the comment! The answer is simple really. All of my solutions were free or cost about £20, could be implemented almost immediately and would improve the protection on your car straight away from relay attack. I’m hearing good things about Ghost but the cost is £500+ and presumably it takes time to get booked in. Cheers, Phil
Please😊 don’t steal my old car, it’s my life!
I know how you feel. Hopefully if it is an older car then it shouldn't be a target but we get sentimental about our old mechanical friends don't we! ☺️
Ive a farrady box key safe also a base ball bat that likes human flesh
lol!
Bought a faraday pouch but they soon stopped working ! Tin foil seems to do the trick !
I'm not sure why but a lot of the faraday pouches do stop working afte a while. I think I need to test mine again!
Hmph amateurs with their fancy tool, a gun works every time
Haha gameboy otwiera i uruchamia każde auto z funkcją keyless i nie potrzebuje do tego kodów w kluczyka. Inaczej mówiąc, możesz swój klucz zmiażdżyć pod prasą bydrauliczną a gameboy otworzy i uruchomi Twoje auto. Film od 2 lat jest już nieaktualny. Jeśli chcesz się zabezpieczyć przed kradzieżą to wyłącz keyless. Jeśli jesteś wielkim fanem keyless to istnieje coś takiego jak CanLock, najlepszy system przeciw kradzieży auta na Gameboy lub walizkę.
Ok what's the procedure for the 90% of keyfob users not driving mercs
Faraday pouch, faraday tin box or cage, keep keys far away from front door and outside walls of the property, especially on a night.... Look up your model of vehicle on forums to see if there is a way to disable your keyless entry or start. Hope that helps! Phil
Yeah I don't go out n spend 80k on a car
Understand your point, my Mercedes is worth about £20k but even if it was a cheaper car, I wouldn’t want a thief just to easily take what is mine!
Some modern mid-range class cars also have keyless entry now such as Mazda3 and some Toyota Corolla and so on. So do beware when you purchase them.
@@tanbui7569 Cheers for the info! Looks like this is being rolled out more and more. Maybe my video will go viral! 😁
Buy a car that starts with a key
Tell me about it! I have another "old skool" car that just has a key, much prefer it! Plus nobody wants to steal it because it's old...
Most late-model vehicles are no longer engineered that way.
@@hairenvy247 thanks! yes, I heard from a few viewers that for example, from 2023, Mercedes keyfobs have changed, and they now stop transmitting when they have been stationary for a while. Still a lot of vehicles out there with keyless entry that were made before 2023 though! Cheers, Phil
Dumbest invention ever made and whoever did it THEN all those cars that like stupid idiots just said....lets us to it too. Or maybe plan was to convince people they like the dumb fob and so when car is easily stolen, children could figure it out.....THEN.... OH Sir, can I sell you Another of my lovely cars?
Do you think thieves only steal keyless cars? I think you'll find all cars are susceptible to theft. They just use different methods depending on the vehicle. Last time I checked, cars with an old fashioned key were stolen far more often than keyless cars.
I have a rottweiler. The dog house is next to my truck.
Old school but effective 👍😃
Kill switch
Who the hell is going to steal one of todays Merc's.
Strip it and ship it crews, big business in Europe, presumably elsewhere too... Or do you mean because new Mercs are such a pain in the @ss? If so, I've been having some reliability problems with mine, so I hear you...
Africa still love them
To have convenience, you'll have your car stolen. Not convenient.
To protect the car, you have to play all these silly games. Not convenient.
There's nothing convenient about the convenience of keyless entry/ignition.
Agree! It's the most inconvenient, convenience feature I have ever come across! 😂
@@ReviveMyRide How does a person buy a new car that requires a key in a hole?
Don't buy any vehicles that has a key fobs
Wish it was so simple but they all seem to have them these days!
@ReviveMyRide worst thing they ever did. Making it easier to steal just like the EV. People to lazy to turn the key. Every vehicle easy to steal
I agree with your points but it’s the manufacturers that annoy me the most. People didn’t ask for keyless entry, (or maybe some did) they just decided it was something we wanted. Now a lot of people are saying they don’t want it and they’re stuck 😂 Anyway, thanks for your comments, hopefully the tips in the video help some 👍
I would not enact anything noted on this website.
These fobs are dumbest concept EVER MADE. What is wrong with car makers? I just got a new Volvo, and there is so many ways .....
Agree, it really annoys me too. I don’t need the car door to unlock automatically when I walk up to it. I still find it hard to believe that pretty much all manufacturers got this so wrong!
I never bought a dog.
OK, more of a cat person? 🐱
@@ReviveMyRide Those goddamn stealing animalz.
@@adolfgerhardhermann5952 😂
This is stupid! Why have the manufacturers gone to the push button starting instead of a key with a chip? There should be a class action suit against the manufacturers.
And the stupid fob doesn't come with a switch to turn it off. They just have to come up with new things when it wasn't broke before. Why do you need push button starting?
A regular key with the immobilizer chip doesn't transmit anything. It's a transponder.
This push button crap is a useless system that has caused all this car steeling.
You are correct, as a Locksmith we used to service and make keys for cars that DID need a key to start them, including later models that had a transponder in the key head. The mechanical key lock cylinder and steering wheel locking system was more expensive for manufactures to implement, so they went to electronic locking and press button start. The "modern" system of press button start - security wise - leaves the car more vulnerable, due to thieves capturing the key signal. Once they've got that, the car opens and touching the start button, unlocks the steering wheel while starting the car. If there was still a mechanical key operated locking mechanism, that would also have to be by passed. Cars - thanks to cost cutting by the manufacturers - have become a lot easier to steel.