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- čas přidán 20. 11. 2021
- Retelling how I was initially exposed to transgenderism and what my thoughts are on it now. Alternate Title: Glam Over Trans
Missed releasing this in March for "Transgender Day of Visibility", then in October for "LGBT History Month", and now in November for "Transgender Awareness Week". I really wish they'd add more holidays to the calendar because they don't get nearly enough attention.
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Holy shit man. You know, i dont hang out with gay or trans people etc bc they're all like the people you speak about in this video, which is why its so suprising to me to find you, a person from one of those catagories, being so chill and making so much sense. I wish more people would see this video and take in what you're saying. And im sorry i wasnt trying to be phobic in anyway but just from my experiences most gay trans etc people that ive met are kind of idiots, im really glad to see that its not all of them though. If i knew u in real life i would totally hang out with u
Hahaha you admitted he is one of those categories
@@ashutoshdwivedi4513 what's wrong with that?
Hes also a pedophile, though. Oh im sorry, hes a person who's attracted to minors.
@@ashutoshdwivedi4513 and?
My biggest problem with this video is that with how many fantastic and insightful comments there are this was the one that was pinned 💀
Some very good points here
"Diagnostic inflation" is a very severe problem these days, not purely regarding trans issues.
Absolutely amazing and incredible video, I completely 100% agree, but I have a question:
I heard someone argue - if I understand correctly - that gender identity is something that is related to perception of others in other words that the definition of a transsexual is "someone who have an internal desire to be treated and recognized by society as the opposite gender" that the acknowledgement is the end goal not even transitioning, what do you think about that?
I think that's their problem, attaching that much weight on the opinion of others.
@@Omnizoa being a woman or a man in society brings different roles and perceptions with it. Some people just dont feel comfortable in the box they are stuck in so they change the box.
Why is it that only very small channels like you have the guts to call out and question the transgenderism narratives and agenda? If enough influential people questioned this when it had started to circulate then maybe we wouldn't have reached a point where people purposefully chooses to deny reality and forget what a man or a woman is.
This guy defends child predators
Bridget part sadly didn't age well, they got to Bridget and the original developers reconned Bridget being a trap/femboy ;(
Apparently done to get the game sold in China. As usual, corporate greed bending the knee cause they see dollar signs looking at that dictatorship
That's a big L to take as far as I am concerned
19:58 Sounds like a gay in denial XD
47:43 He got tha bad ending, When you get the bad ending it a game xD
Never liked transgender movement, Glade the LGB split from the T.
I dont agree on all point but you video was well made and you have though this out. Your a smart person, enjoy the video, so underated. 11/10
You forgot to mention that another maybe culprit behind trans identity is autogynephilia.
Shame you didn't mention it since it's also an interesting topic to discuss and if it has any connection between mtf trans people
There's a lot more I could have said, but I chose to focus on the points that were most persuasive to me.
30:23 This aged too well, recently the definition of being anti vax eas changed(then there was incident of changing of definition of word mid debate)
Great to see another quality long form video from you. Excellent points to consider even if I don't agree with all of it.
Rock on!
this is like a 14 year old who thinks its still 2016
?
@@djula2619 are you old enough to know how 2016 was ?
@@havefaith4382 no, I was born 5 minutes ago
@@djula2619 happy 9 months. looking forward to your first birthday!
@@AttacMage omg thank you so much! It's sad cuz none of my parents could make it but this made my day
I remember when people didn't complain that a person at a function was a pretty guy. It just really never mattered until bad actors started appropriating it, be it corporations or people with agendas.
That was quite a production & I feel like I should donate.
My take: so apparently we're throwing out biology -- we're not doing chromosomes, we're not doing ability to produce egg/sperm, hormones etc. We're throwing out all that silly biological stuff and replacing it with mental characteristics. Ok so it's mental characteristics now. Male and female are just a state of mind. Great, fine, so what are the mental characteristics? No-one seems to want to say 'cause as soon as we define them, we start excluding people who don't have those characteristics but still want to identify as that gender. eg. a biologically female "tomboy" happens to have the male mental characteristics and therefore can't call herself a woman. Problematic. Ok so maybe "gender is over" and there is no male or female cause it's all a social construct. Ok but what if I said biology is my social construct -- am I allowed to have that? Who gets to decide what the social construct is gonna be, if anything? This all needs to be figured out before society is changed to suit the new philosophy or start injecting kids etc.
2 years late, but honestly, it's still a hot topic anyway. i can respect this viewpoint, so much as i still disagree with it. the only thing i can say is that i never truly felt like i saw a genuine refutation to the idea entirely. the only refutations i saw were both examples that compared transgender ideas to things that are much more legitimately harmful. for example, eating disorders are much more dangerous than being trans ever can be imo. i saw a bunch of examples get refuted, one coming from a self-identified non english speaker, and another coming from someone i admit seemingly has quite a few mental health issues, but there are legitimately very many people who are transgender who are quite literally just another human besides identifying as someone else. many of the points in the video are valid though and i think that open critique of the idea of being transgender is never inherently bad.
The editing is just top notch
Thanks.
would you be open to having a debate regarding your stances in this video
discord.gg/un2a4UKT omnizoa is on the discord most days
I'm inclined to say "possibly", but I'm loathe to credit anyone defending the social justice movement with even a modicum of honesty.
@@Omnizoa alright ill hop into your discord sometime in the future and see if youre interested
@@Omnizoa just say your beliefs man just say u hate trans people bro stop being a puss
>the over diagnosis pandemic
Consider this in a country with free healthcare. It's awful. Almost EVERYONE is incentivised to over diagnose.
The medical industry gets more funding and prescriptions.
The parents can demand more support and ridiculous exceptional rules for their child.
The child gets a free pass to be disordered instead of otherwise integrating with society.
Everywhere the child goes gets diversity points.
The only one who pays is the tax payer.
It's everywhere insentivized. More diagnosis, means more patients whether they pay for it privately like US or publicly like UK
@@danielsurvivor1372 could argue that in a private system there's more likelyhood for groups to not visit certain services, while public funding would give them their bottomless government money pit.
One of the greatest videos I've ever seen. It's tragic to see a community so hijacked beyond repair and seeing it glamorized on the Mainstream establishment RN (especially towards Trans "Women" and Gay men) makes me realize how BS some gender norms are so much that if "you like that specific thing, than you must be that opposite gender!" It makes me not shocked even more how some bronies for example turn out to just transition out of their gender due to them liking a "girly" product when they were ok with being a man who's into "female made" products beforehand and were open about it and didn't care originally.
"The Transgender community and it's consequences have been a disaster to the human race."
We live in a world that despises gender nonconformity, a world that non-trans people have created, yet it's trans people's fault for wanting to conform?
This is what I subscribed for
You subbed to a pedo?
Just don’t be so confusing and it will all work out
I watched this yesterday and I don't have the heart to watch it again to go point by point so I'll only talk about what was remembered. If I make any mistake or misunderstood your points then feel free to correct me. I'm not interested in dramas and people you see on the internet that told you their own beliefs regarding their own experience. I don't believe you can understand any subject looking into that like this, I do think you can get a very biased one though. If some alien came to this planet and started watching CZcams, I don't think they'd have a pretty good view of humanity either. So what I'm going to focus on are facts, as much as I can anyway, because I can acknowledge that I also have my biases. I had to delete links because CZcams is a bitch.
At first what surprised me was the Stonewall LGBT story, I'm not at all knowledgeable about American LGBT history, but I do know that during WW2 and before, transvestites/transsexuals were part of the ""group of freak"" that gathered together alongside gays and lesbians. There were bars about it, and this ""group of freak"" also included ephebophiles. Since you never showed any source regarding historical knowledge, I'm going to try to do better than you and put some www.*theparisreview.org/blog/2019/01/15/a-lost-piece-of-trans-history/ and I've myself been to an exposition about WW2 regarding LGBT people not so long ago at the Shoah Memorial
in Paris (so not your random internet blogger), showing several pictures of transvestites/transsexuals/drag queens/kings (there was little to no separation between those categories back then, and little do you know, there was also little to no separation between homosexuals and transvestites/transsexuals). I took some pictures if you want more proofs rather than my words, but I won't post them on CZcams.
Then what surprised me was the misunderstanding regarding the hypothesis about what is called """brain sex""". I looked into your "sources" (a youtube channel and a blog) and like, there's nothing there that really portrays well the hypothesis (plural) regarding the existence of transsexual people. Know that I am indeed talking about "hypothesis" because I personally feel like it would be a bit too early to really say what is really going on in there for transsexuals, and I don't think transsexual transition for only one reason. I'll come back to that later because I want to focus on what is typically called """brain sex""".
One of the hypothesis that is most prominent among people on the internet is the idea that transsexuals have **some** part of their brain that has been feminized/masculinized during fetal development, just like what is considered to be the case for homosexual people (but at a different moment of fetal development). www.*sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0091302211000252
pubmed.*ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/21094885/
And/or linked to genes: academic.*oup.com/jcem/article/104/2/390/5104458
So it's not really a "pink brain in a blue body" and it's definitely not a "all girls have a pink brain, all guys have a blue brain". It is more like "there's this specific pink spot in this blue body that fucks everything up". The "part of the brain" that is responsible for "causing people to become transsexuals" is not clearly understood. What should research focus on, which has little been done until now, is to control for sexual orientation, like this study did: www.*nature.com/articles/s41598-017-17352-8
A second hypothesis about this is linked to paraphilias. Some females and males would have a paraphilic interest in themselves as the opposite sex, and would seek to change their sex in order to fulfil themselves.
Which is linked to the third hypothesis, that some people are so gender non-conforming, that it is in their best interest to transition and fulfil their life as the opposite sex. There are levels of masculinity/femininity you can't really reach unless you transition. For example, it is common for very femme homosexual guys who is single in their twenties, to transition, because that way they can access heterosexual guys, as other homosexual guys are not interested in them, and also keep their femininity and avoid "twink death" (due to testosterone).
You can see Blanchard's work regarding this, which isn't without flaws, but gives some ideas.
Note that I'm not saying that it is proven, again, I'm talking about hypothesis (plural). I do however think that probably the three are somewhat true in some extent and would actually convey a reason why some people transition and why some other don't, and why some pursue it to pass and some don't care about it.
Regarding body dysmorphia, I think my list of hypothesis kind of counteract this idea, but what surprises me, is that again, there is *one cause* for it apparently. What about OCD? What about schizophrenia? What about anorexia nervosa? What about paraphilic disorders? What about comorbidities? What evidence do you have? None, at least you showed none. Therapists should absolutely look into this before allowing someone to transition, that we agree on, and the DSM has big flaws. I don't want to go around regarding the increase of diagnosis etc, it's not really the subject and I would tend to agree on it.
gosh, how long did it take you to write this?!
@@spicylemons1983 i don't remember it was 4 months ago. I don't mind taking time to put proper links and researches for proper information, which probably took more time than the making of the video. :)
Thanks dude, it was the one of the most intelligently written comment I have read. Bytheway, in my opinion (I do not wish to incite any furious political debate) according to my knowledge, the reasons why we do not look into mental conditions around transition wishing people, are the following :
-1: Since now the condition is NOT classified as a titled "disease"(like schizophrenia,DID), if your condition's symptoms match and you are presenting it long enough, you are THAT. Which is a good method of working for detection, but not for confirmation. (fex schizophrenia can be detected this way, but in order to make sure it is not DID,etc,or is produced by body's condition {fex depression in due to malfunctioning testies producing less hormone T}, so in order to find final conclusion, further research into the subject is required). Which works,at least if your psichiatrist is a decent person. BUT, because gender dysforia is not anymore classified as such mentioned above,the process does not require the further research part, (even tough most of the time hormone checks at least do indeed happen) so the process is, Detection->Proof(that mostly depends on your therapist's ideology,personal views and obedience to the process determined by your state/country which is also personal)
-2: Your doc wishes to see ultimately a success, a tick, not a maniac depression induced by some underlying deep problem of yours. Why? Because this is a business. He/she(/your mom), wants to write in their bio +1 treated patient so they can charge more and gain better reputation. Now gender thingies come alongside with severe depression, maniac depression,these two are symptoms/conditions hardest to treat, especially in short time.(short means here within a year, normal, within 5-15 ys) That's why tablets (fex antidepressant) are so commonly used etc, ability to show better development in a patient is excellent for the career of your therapist.
-3: Do you want to do therapy on a 17 years old.. Erm not wise person? OR a 15? 13? Only a child would think this simply, to imagine there is a miracle surgery,pill,cure to escape existential dread and pain of life. Now imagine facing a 17-23ys old guy demanding you to treat them like: 1 Adult, 2.Emotionally reliable, 3.non-mentally sick(fex narcistic, not even as severe I think of like did, just the average good old narcissism), so like a completely saine person While they truly hope for a treatment method, that needs practically no dedication and fight to regain control over themselves, their feelings. (normally that process takes 20-30 years of psychotherapy and often end up without any success so in comparison to 20+ys/no success they imagine in a year or 2 they can be treated) You as a person who's life passion, business is to cure and treat people and know minor of how GD works(because no one really does), have two choices: - 1 to offer impermanently effective and terribly addictive medications as long as psychotherapy lasts which can end up unsuccessful(suicide/at age 80 patient still suffers the same symptoms, right at the time when he dies of any other condition) or - 2 you can offer to help in achieving gender therapies (hormone, surgery etc) which will take up at max 2 years plus-minus the years needed to earn money to finance it all
It's your choice. You will not engage in option one, unless you have really strong inspiration to do it, I can grant that.
Hi! I will leave some useful thoughts, followed by my personal opinion on transgenders:
1- All the words in a language have the same basic structure: there are a couple of sounds or written characters that, somehow, we use in reference to some characteristic of reality. The commonly assumed referential content of a word is what we call its meaning; this should not be confused with a "definition", which is a mere description of the meaning of a word by the use of other words. The reference of a word is the *thing* it signifies, and not the description of such thing in terms of other words. The meaning of a word is the commonly accepted reference for that word, in a given context.
2- The purpose of language is to communicate information. For that to be possible, users of the same language should have the same "code of reference" when they speak or write to each other. Let's take the police code as an example: a police officer calls the radio and says that "we have a 019 in the Central Park" to his fellow cops. I have no idea what is the real code used by police, but for the sake of the argument let's say that "019" is the secret code for "armed robbery". It is necessary, in order for "019" to communicate information, that "019" refers to a similar thing for *all* the cops. If each cop assigns "019" a very different reference, like if it means "murder" for Mike but "drug selling" for Tom and "robbery" for Jack, the numbers "019" will *lack* any shared reference. And without shared reference, there would not be any commonly accepted reference for that specific set of numbers. In other words, "019" would have no meaning in the context of the police code of reference; saying "019" would be as meaningless as saying "hg342lkcjskh" in this context. In short, "meaning" is like a shared code.
3- For meaning (and therefore communication) to be possible, we need to establish a shared "code" in which all speakers assign similar words for similar references. For that to be possible, the references should be *public* and accessible, at least in principle, to all speakers. The characteristics or "features" of a cat are public and people more or less experience and understand them in similar ways, the same goes for the features of objects like tables, or emotions like love, and even abstract ideas like justice or federation. If the characteristics of a reference are only accessible to me, as a *private* reference, the word would have no meaning even if I assign a commonly used word for it (like the letters "table" for example). It would be an "empty shell", a public word used in a private (meaningless) way.
4- So, meaning requires a public reference. This automatically discards the idea of gender as some kind of "self-identification", because that would be a private reference. If the word "woman" is used in reference to whatever each person identifies it with, the word itself will become an empty shell. Remember, meaning requires that all speakers *agree* on a similar reference; so "woman" or "trans woman" should have a public reference in order to have meaning. To see this point more clearly, let's define "woman" as a "person who self-identifies as a woman". This would be a circular definition, for the word we are trying to define is in the definition itself; in other words: How can we understand the meaning of "self-identifying as a *woman"* if we don't know the meaning of "woman" in the first place? It is like if I invented a new word, like "kiki" for example, and, when someone asks me for its meaning, I respond that "a kiki is a person that self-identifies as a kiki". The reference of "kiki" would remain private, because each person (who self-identifies as one) would refer to completely different things by it.
5- It would make much more sense to fixate the reference of words like "woman" on some public characteristics, like long hair, certain behavior and psychology, certain dresses and cosmetic accessories, tits, vagina, certain body shape, certain voice tone, etcetera. This is what we do for most other nouns, there is no need to treat words like "man" or "woman" differently. Of course, not all women have every single one of these characteristics; some have short hair, some have low peach voice, some behave in a very masculine way, and yes, some do not have tits. But not all bathrooms have a toilet, not all cats have hair, and we still would recognize them as bathrooms or cats. Why? Because it is not necessary to have every single characteristic; it is only necessary to have the right combination of *some* characteristics, just *enough* to be recognized by speakers as a member of the thing referenced by the word in question. The same goes for women as a reference. As long as a woman has the right combination of enough public characteristics to be recognized as one by a significative number of speakers, she would be a woman; this would be the case even if she lacks some characteristics, like long hair or even a vagina.
6- I do not claim this is the only legitimate way to find an actual meaning for "woman" or similar words, but I think is good enough for most communication cases in daily life. The consequence of this is kinda obvious: If I, a man, start claiming that I am a woman all of a sudden, I would be wrong even if I truly believe that I am a woman. I would just be a deceived man claiming to be a woman, because I lack the right combinations of characteristics enough to make me a recognizable reference of the word "woman" for a significant number of speakers. But a real trans woman, a person that actually have the right combination of enough characteristics, would be a woman even if she has a penis. For example, Blaire White is clearly a (trans) woman. But other persons are not (trans) women at all, even if they claim to be one, because they have the public characteristics of a man or, in some cases, of an androgynous person.
TL;DR: some persons who claim to be trans women are in fact women, but not all of them.
another?!
Amazing comment, glad I could read it
6:22-6:24 Have you heard about the terms Shonen and Shojo?
Yes I have.
Still punk, still hate the system. But exist with reality. Omnizoa have a good day
Very interesting video. I learned about trans being a thing in 2006 when I was 19. I had never even thought about being another gender before but I always had body issues. Even when underweight I felt fat. I grew up without a father so always have been feminine in same ways but also like typical boy stuff in some ways. I spent years talking to experts but in they end I was not diagnosed as trans and while I was extreme upset about it at the time it probably was right but it doesn’t take away from the fact that I like nail polish and girls clothes etc even if I have never worn it in public. I have a wife who accepts me for who I am but I have fantasies sometimes about men but I can’t help being repulsed by the thought of being with a man as a man even if I don’t have issues with people being gay. It is a lot easier to think of myself as a women when fantasising. I got an Asperger’s diagnosis instead of the trans diagnoses and they explained how it is common for Asperger’s people to feel dysphoria (although that term wasn’t used then). I’ve since have had kids and the last thing I would want is for them to be trans. Not because I hate trans people but because it is seriously hard to always feel bad about yourself. I believe it is a disorder and for some changing sex might be the only possible way to continue living but it should be as a last resort. Why is there so little help to make you accept who you are? Never once in 4 years of therapy did I get any help to feel ok with being born a man. Saying it is ok to like nail polish and skirts but be a man. I’m lucky to have found a wife who accepts me for me despite having Asperger’s and not just accepting me having both a masculine and feminine side but actually like both my sides. I’ve never understood the trans people who try to get attention as at least then I was really into the trans community so to speak back in 2006-10 the last thing trans people wanted was for others to know they were trans. They just wanted to blend in as the woman or man they felt not broadcast to the world that they were born as something else. But I think people who hate on actual trans people are really bad. You wouldn’t hate on a person for being handicapped or having a mental disorder so why hate on trans people? But some of the things some people who claim to be part of the Trans community say about how every child should be given hormone blockers and have them decide their own gender seems crazy. It would be like instead of trying to cure a disorder you want everyone to have the disorder?! Anyway take this for what it is confused ramblings from a person who live a pretty happy life with a family but never quite have managed to understand his(or hers?) feelings. I also couldn’t care less about gender pronouns. If someone wants to call me a man then fine if they want to say woman I have no issues whatsoever with that. I don’t take any offence either way.
3:01 Wait when you were the age of ten, did SJW vs Anti SJW war already began?
Does that mean that you were enlightened about pointlessness of gender norms before 2016?
Gender Norms have been a thing for millennia, dude.
@@Omnizoa hey there is this 15 year old youtuber called gacha wow who made a joke about transgender people ynow what the community did, no not unsubscribe from her THEY SENT DEATH THREATS TO HER I swear to god people are so sensitive
26:47 Not so fun fact, apperently this number jumped to 6 0% in recent times... What the actual f
Man I wish your controversy with Shoe never happened so that rn you'd be able to debate n debunk Hunter Avalone who now jumped onto this T train.
Tbh, I find it hard to actually take the person seriously with the video shoe commented on. I don't know if they have changed any opinions they may have since then but it certainly does put up a barrier of entry.
Debating Hunter Avalone on any subject seems like an exercise in futility.
@@Omnizoa True, then maybe you could've debated someone else on trans topic?
Someone more good faith about it?
its not 2016 anymore
Pretty much agree with you.
man i don't understand any of this but i enjoy it
This deserves billions of views !! Straight up facts ! They just want to spread madness all over 😐
whos "they" bruh
@@havefaith4382 bruh
@@djula2619 bruh
@@havefaith4382 bruh
@@djula2619 bruh
Can't tell is this is supposed to be transphobic or what.
He once defended people who touch kids.
Assume so
@@Osindileyo1 Ew
Yes, it's supposed to be fearful of transgenders.
Miss your videos bro, especially on this topic.
You could've gone further and explained how it makes no sense that progressives support transgender people but not transracial or transable people. And they can't make an argument that doesn't apply to transgender people as well
Mood.
This is so based, slam dunk video
Good video
Let people do what they please
A nice ambiguous command that tries to tie the entire video in a vague happy, joyful bowtie. Thank you so much
@@djula2619 what are you on brother
@@havefaith4382 ?
@@djula2619 its a question
@@havefaith4382 its not a question I really care about
Also it seems pretty grifty and for money
You use a lot of logical fallacies. Like around 10:38-10:41, do you not see the hypocrisy in that statement? You seem emulate "the facts dont care about your feelings " guy and have the same argument style of conveniently leaving out the parts you dont like
At that timestamp I'm describing my experience of attempting to secure a clear and concise definition of the term. No fallacies involved.
bruh wtf is this I subscribed to you for Georgist content not this culture war bs
My channel, my opinions. Cope harder.
@@Omnizoa Your culture war videos are ass, stick to econ jack
I subscribed for Omnizoa
The Georgist movement, small as it is, is a very broad church. I see that as more of a strength than a weakness but yeah you're going to run into views you don't like.
You can always just click on his Georgist video they still exists and can be rewatch.
okay, but you a man or a woman?
Cringe
yeah this guy didnt grow out of the 2016 phase
Very cringe indeed.
@@havefaith4382i've seen racist n word jokes funnier than her.
Just decide to whom you want to market to ( girls / guys ) either is good. Then … market yourself accordingly . Pick a side clearly and I think you will be surprised at how accepting people are. I’m attracted to trans women. That’s just that .
Schizo
I watched this yesterday and I don't have the heart to watch it again to go point by point so I'll only talk about what was remembered. If I make any mistake or misunderstood your points then feel free to correct me. I'm not interested in dramas and people you see on the internet that told you their own beliefs regarding their own experience. I don't believe you can understand any subject looking into that like this, I do think you can get a very biased one though. If some alien came to this planet and started watching CZcams, I don't think they'd have a pretty good view of humanity either. So what I'm going to focus on are facts, as much as I can anyway, because I can acknowledge that I also have my biases. I had to delete links because CZcams is a bitch.
At first what surprised me was the Stonewall LGBT story, I'm not at all knowledgeable about American LGBT history, but I do know that during WW2 and before, transvestites/transsexuals were part of the ""group of freak"" that gathered together alongside gays and lesbians. There were bars about it, and this ""group of freak"" also included ephebophiles. Since you never showed any source regarding historical knowledge, I'm going to try to do better than you and put some theparisreview.*org/blog/2019/01/15/a-lost-piece-of-trans-history and I've myself been to an exposition about WW2 regarding LGBT people not so long ago at the Shoah Memorial in Paris (so not your random internet blogger), showing several pictures of transvestites/transsexuals/drag queens/kings (there was little to no separation between those categories back then, and little do you know, there was also little to no separation between homosexuals and transvestites/transsexuals). I took some pictures if you want more proofs rather than my words, but I won't post them on CZcams.
Then what surprised me was the misunderstanding regarding the hypothesis about what is called """brain sex""". I looked into your "sources" (a youtube channel and a blog) and like, there's nothing there that really portrays well the hypothesis (plural) regarding the existence of transsexual people. Know that I am indeed talking about "hypothesis" because I personally feel like it would be a bit too early to really say what is really going on in there for transsexuals, and I don't think transsexual transition for only one reason. I'll come back to that later because I want to focus on what is typically called """brain sex""".
One of the hypothesis that is most prominent among people on the internet is the idea that transsexuals have **some** part of their brain that has been feminized/masculinized during fetal development, just like what is considered to be the case for homosexual people (but at a different moment of fetal development). sciencedirect.*com/science/article/abs/pii/S0091302211000252
pubmed ncbi. nlm. nih. gov/21094885/
And/or linked to genes: academic.oup.*com/jcem/article/104/2/390/5104458
So it's not really a "pink brain in a blue body" and it's definitely not a "all girls have a pink brain, all guys have a blue brain". It is more like "there's this specific pink spot in this blue body that fucks everything up". The "part of the brain" that is responsible for "causing people to become transsexuals" is not clearly understood. What should research focus on, which has little been done until now, is to control for sexual orientation, like this study did: nature.*com/articles/s41598-017-17352-8
A second hypothesis about this is linked to paraphilias. Some females and males would have a paraphilic interest in themselves as the opposite sex, and would seek to change their sex in order to fulfil themselves.
Which is linked to the third hypothesis, that some people are so gender non-conforming, that it is in their best interest to transition and fulfil their life as the opposite sex. There are levels of masculinity/femininity you can't really reach unless you transition. For example, it is common for very femme homosexual guys who is single in their twenties, to transition, because that way they can access heterosexual guys, as other homosexual guys are not interested in them, and also keep their femininity and avoid "twink death" (due to testosterone).
You can see Blanchard's work regarding this, which isn't without flaws, but gives some ideas.
Note that I'm not saying that it is proven, again, I'm talking about hypothesis (plural). I do however think that probably the three are somewhat true in some extent and would actually convey a reason why some people transition and why some other don't, and why some pursue it to pass and some don't care about it.
Regarding body dysmorphia, I think my list of hypothesis kind of counteract this idea, but what surprises me, is that again, there is *one cause* for it apparently. What about OCD? What about schizophrenia? What about anorexia nervosa? What about paraphilic disorders? What about comorbidities? What evidence do you have? None, at least you showed none. Therapists should absolutely look into this before allowing someone to transition, that we agree on, and the DSM has big flaws. I don't want to go around regarding the increase of diagnosis etc, it's not really the subject and I would tend to agree on it.
More about """brain sex""" : contrary to what radical feminists believe (Magdalen having been one until her death), brains of people are usually more or less feminine/masculine. Hormones affect parts of your brain to feminize/masculinize it, and it has an effect on your behavior, neurology, psychology, etc, and why not the internal belief of being a specific sex.
One of the most common research given by radical feminists to say that ""brains don't have sex"" is "Joel D, et al. (2015) Sex beyond the genitalia: The human brain mosaic", but it has been debunked by several studies. I picked some of them from the list that I have :
- pnas. org/content/113/14/E1966
- pnas. org/content/113/14/E1971
- cogprints. org/10046/1/Delgiudice_etal_critique_joel_2015.pdf
There is nothing sexist into acknowledging differences, both physical and neurological, between females and males. I would recommend anyone reading about differences between males and females regarding neurology and behavior because it is really an interesting subject, I can probably give you more sources regarding this but this isn't really the main topic and this post is already super long.
What I want to say before continuing is that, those are models, science is not prescriptive. Just because a few males and females don't fit the model in behavior/psychology/neurology, doesn't mean that they're the opposite sex either. Recently I took an example that was as apolitical as possible, and I think sharing it with you could help you understand: imagine there’s some scientific model saying that males usually run twice a week. Does that mean that males who don’t run twice a week are not males? Does that mean that females who run twice a week are suddenly males? Does that mean that males have to run twice a week? No. It simply means that males on average run twice a week. There, you have the logic applied to males and females in regards to brains and behavior. It doesn’t go further than this. You can acknowledge statistical differences and still believe that not all men are Z and not all women are X.
Finally, I think radical feminists in general make a huge mistake when they think that this is regressive, and considering the amount of time that radfems have been on the side of regression to gender roles, I'm not really believing that it is. As I was saying, transitioning can allow people to be able to express femininity or masculinity to a level that is not possible as their sex, because of biological limitations. The girl you call a "woman face" is not trying to emulate being a woman, she's expressing herself, she is a typical hyper feminine homosexual transsexual, she knows very well that she is male. Preventing people to transition is forcing them into removing their ways of expressing themselves, and therefore fights to keep gender roles. I have known several old homosexual transsexuals (MtF) who told me that during their time, therapies were made to force them to become more masculine, do you think that those people thought that them becoming women would fix everything? It didn't, and it still doesn't today. It is abuse, it is conversion therapy.
And honestly? I think that for someone who claims people "woman face" others, you yourself express yourself through a character who appears female, how is it not woman face then? Why should your way of presenting yourself as a female to your audience and the world would be any more okay than someone deciding to transition to appear to the world as female? Because you're not what you consider is a "caricature"? Why should anyone be told how to present themselves in regards to society? Again, how is that not enforcing gender roles?
I couldn't care less about people who want to change race for my part, it's a very bad argument, they should be free of whatever they wanna do, to me the basis will always be the same: if you pass, then in society you should be able to get the status that you want, male female, caucasian, asian, whatever. Words and societal boxes are made for common communication, not for people's feelings or to show the "actual sacro saint truth". Which is why I also don't care much about the pronouns bit, because I mostly agree with you. Whatever feels right, normalize not giving a fuck about pronouns. I won't harass someone uncomfortable with it though, just like I won't go to some random coworker, misgendering them in purpose for hours just because "I don't care about your pronouns".
Do children get abused due to some woke parents? Yeah. Do some people get persuaded into transitioning? Yeah. The detransition rate is still pretty much so tiny the last detransition gathering in the UK was a complete disaster. Those things won't change whether you're pro or against transsexuals/transgenders/transitioning, and it's sadly inevitable.
I also believed that "detransition rate were so high!" I even met a real life detransitioner. But anecdotal evidences, are not empirical evidences. To this day there isn't any evidence supporting the idea that there's more detransitioners than before (as in, people who started to transition *medically*, and then went back to their natal gender. I'm saying this because radfems like to play up that "desisters" are proofs).
Finally, regarding the 40% suicide rate. Honestly I've only seen this number talked about by conservative transphobes, in relation to the dumb Swedish study. I'm not competent in knowing how distressed transsexual are before transitioning, or the suicide rate, so I'm not sure about this subject and it's difficult to research. What I do know is that transitioning most likely help transsexuals like this study shows: jsm. jsexmed .org/article/S1743-6095(18)30058-4/fulltext
Now whether it is a real effect or a placebo effect has not been tested. But again, based on the available hypothesis, it's not really testable. I do however have a study looking into FtMs and a masculine morphed self springer. com/article/10.1007/s11682-016-9578-6 the study explains it better than I could ever (which again, doesn't mean it's proven, those are hypothesis, we need more testing, as we always do with science, we need to reproduce findings.).
This was long, I hope it gives you some thoughts, even if it doesn't change your stance on things. I hope I'm also not too dry, know that I don't mean to be impolite or purposely mean in my comment.
I can send the list of source I used however you want.
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I'll be honest, I'm not gonna read all this. It shouldn't even take 50 minutes to say what I said.
Wear what you want, body mod how you want, don't impose it on others, and don't bullshit me. End of.