“We Simply Don’t Have Deterrents!” Peter Bleksley On Hainault Sword Rampage
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- čas přidán 29. 04. 2024
- A 14-year-old boy has died following multiple stabbings in east London as a sword-wielding suspect remains in custody after being tasered and arrested on suspicion of murder.
Chief Superintendent Stuart Bell, of the Metropolitan Police, said four other people were injured in the attack in Hainault, while Assistant Commissioner Louisa Rolfe said the suspect is in hospital after sustaining injuries when his van hit a house.
Two Met officers suffered wounds that require surgery, with Mr Bell describing their injuries as “significant” but not life-threatening, and injuries sustained by two members of the public are also not deemed to be life-threatening.
The officer said he did not believe it was a targeted attack, and it is not believed to be terror-related.
A 36-year-old man was tasered and arrested at the scene but has not yet been interviewed because of his injuries, the Met said.
Talk’s Jeremy Kyle is joined by former Met Police detective Peter Bleksley to discuss the latest.
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What a dreadful world we live in.
It always been dreadful since men discovered fire
@@run2cat4run
Was it possible it had anything to do with Solomon school.
*country
Worsened by the grown-ups losing control of it from the sixties.
NO MORE claims of manslaughter on the grounds of diminished responsibility. This is murder.
This is the difference between Peter Bleksley, a proper former policeman, and Rowley a career political policeman that doesn't really care about the safety of the public. Rowley is more concerned with political correctness and virtue signalling. We need serious consequences for all levels of crime, not talk and claptrap.
Was it Rowley that did that publics update and talked for the first 5 minutes about feelings ? Geez, Barry Manilo’s song started playing in my head.
Oh, and the he talked about all the support the police would give the family.
How about solving crimes, making arrests, and functioning as the police ?
Absolutely spot on tomcat
@@sorbabaric1 'Feelings' - Morris Albert (1974)
Peter was a former policeman back when they were beating people with batons for saying blimey. He has 0 relevant experience or and has no idea about modern policing or skills.
Peter talks a lot of sense. If only he was in charge instead of Rowley.
He's full of crap
Stop worrying its just an isolated incident ask mayor khan
Khan will say it's safe in London.
Safe if you got police protection and drive around in a 300k bomb proof range rover
All just part of living in a city... right?
The fact they haven’t released his name actually says everything
Yes
No it doesn't they don't say anything about being white Chinese Indian black Arab now untill they decide to to stop people from taking law in to own hands or picking on someone of the same nationally
They can’t release his name until he’s been charged
@@Christine-ty6bj lol pretty sure he’d have been charged straight away 🤣🤣🤣
@@basketcase297 No so. He was taken to hospital and has only been releaed to the police today. He will have to be interviewed and the police have to refer to the CPS before he can be officially charged. Best to know facts before commenting
This is dreadful, poor kid this is the government’s fault 😢
We vote for the government so we are at fault. They call it democracy.
Definitely nothing to do with the parents, right?
Government didn't arm the weilder. Speak to the one who he got the sword from
@@fredmercury1314bro 35 years old man killing a kid outside his house you saying is parental issue?????
Man go specsavers or get an earaids something got to be done man
@@graemepennellnot but if they didn't make pussycats out of police , all the time sacking from a job because of complain or judge sets them free or gives them to little also policemen firefighters get peanuts so why they should bother risk their lives ,to be missed their kids life just sake of peanuts 2.5 or 3 grand a month , even that I don't think they get as much. The government have to take appropriate measures change a law arm them or have more armed police , let them be bit bully like in 🇺🇸 then you will see how much is the crime comes down
I work at a school (11-18). You would NOT believe how utterly powerless the teachers are to discipline kids. Honest and the kids know it. It's the same ones all the time. Last month we introduced a lock down protocol "just in case"....
Dear me. It's appalling. Society is completely broken.
Who could have predicted that 2 generations of lax discipline, low standards and low morality would come back to bite us on the arse?
Yes I pulled my child out of school 2 years ago because I saw the decline of the education, system and bullying was rampant
Muslims?
@@markelmslie6832 No!!! Probably less than 1% are the sky daddy believers.
Whe the migrants come from. They are bringing their ways of life with them. Thanks to the prime Minister mr sunak.
It was here before them. White people are on the decline also socially wise. But the migrants do add to the problem also
@@poppy1779 and so will every other PM we vote in, including the Reform party
Thanks to former prime minister Tony Bliar, who caused the Arab Spring with his phoney war in Iraq, Created free movement with his Schengen agreement and encouraged mass immigration into the UK.
This so true and those of us who live in the affected areas have said this for years have been shut down threatened and accused of being "racist" for pointing it out .....
Was he migrant, we haven't heard been told where he comes from
God help those parents .....
Not a terrorist attack...
So it was a terrorist attack then.
He looked white
@@Tee12343Got a link to where that's been said ?
Right Winger
@@meichong8278 It's all over the news
If he was British. He would of been named already. Fact that he hasn't been named mean they're not British
I wonder why this country has no deterrents ? Just think about it, let it sink in.
The guy was obviously an unstable individual. We've shut all the mental institutions to save money and gone with care in the community. What could possibly go wrong?
Was that to save money, or was it because the bleeding-heart leftie liberals couldn't bear the thought of locking unstable people away (potentially for the rest of their lives) just to keep everyone else safe?
This poor boy lost his entire life because of a split second decision of a lunatic!
And the poor decision of our spineless government
@@Raz-iw6fjand islmist saddistic mayour
Jeez, I suggest that the british public, start up a petition to try & get Peter Bleksley voted in as the Cheif of police, & get rid of Rowley, surely that is the right thing to do? ?.
BRING BACK STOP & SEARCH
And without fear of being called racists let the police do their JOB
Exactly it would save lives
Living in South London, I've seen stopNsearch carried out, the police are verbally abused even physically hit as people try to help free the knife/gun carrier, then they may have to face the IOPC who say the police are in the wrong, as one officer said on a news channel they are damned if they do and damned if they don't
He is so right, my son wasn't a victim of crime but the pain still doesn't go away, 10 years on I still break down, these poor parents my heart really does go out to them, I wouldn't wish this pain on my worst enemy 😢😢
Sorry for your loss xx
Keep letting them into the UK and keep watching , what the Hell is this Country doing ?? 😡
Where was he from, we haven't been told anything
He was likely English. Don't jump to conclusions. Likely copy-catting Sydney stabbing spree.
@@jacinthmcintosh3059 My friend watched the video with sound and said he certainly doesn't sound as though he's British.
He's English you muppet 🤡
@@UKParadiseLostthe media is showing videos with quality video but tinney audio , definitely doctored so we can't hear his accent
Back in the Kate 50’s we were young children, playing on old bomb sites, but, if our local Bobby caught us playing on the bomb sites he would March us home by our ear’s! Then once home our father would give us a “what for hiding” for bringing police to our door. We never had high crime rates back then.
Government government government blood on there hands 😢😢😢 innocent suffer.
If have people like sadik khan that what you going to get.
Can you believe the state of the UK in 2024 , so much for progress 😢
The real issue here, the root of the problem, when you really look at it, you know, when you get right to the heart of the matter, is that we're just not diverse enough.
Peter is a great man.
Minimum sentence for carrying a knife is 6 months maximum sentence is 4 yrs
If you get caught carrying a knife minimum sentence 10 yrs if using a knife 20 yrs 👊🏻
Great, except we have already jailed carpet fitters who forgot they still had a stanley knife on them. Do you think that helps to reduce knife crime?
@@Ian.. They should be more careful.
@@Ian.. if you need to use a knife for work like a carpet fitter or a carpenter you can prove that you are using it for work if you’re a carpet fitter or chippy & you are threatening people with that knife then it’s off to prison
If you want a police state, go ahead. I suspect there will be a lot of chefs out of work and in the slammer.
@@matthewcummings9024 have a look at my last comment I said to someone else
Peter Bleksley needs to be inparliment we need his mindset in this country!!!
This just proves our system is broken.
Police are too soft on crimes like this.
And people wonder why we got this kind of stuff going on everyday.
“Police are too soft on crimes like this”
Police don’t determine punishment for crimes they enforce laws of the court.
The police being allowed to murder criminals on sight will make you feel better but it will not stop these crimes from still happening and will not improve the mental health of a nation if we have death squads marching and delivering judgement with impunity if they decide you step out of line.
People of colour, migrants, women of any race and the queer community are already at the mercy of police brutality regardless of commiting a crime or not. You want them to have guns too?
“We got this kind of stuff” going on everyday because austerity has gutted mental healthcare, youth centres, social services, NHS, police staffing and prison systems and because hundreds of thousands of people are using food banks, hundreds of thousands of people are homeless and because housing and food prices continue to rise whilst wages are not adjusted.
But you with your tiny fucking mind want to minimise this complex problem to one issue… “it’s because police are too soft”
Get some perspective you animal.
The problem is not the police not being armed. It’s Britain’s laws and justice system being toothless and spastic. Starting with the lawlessness of mass illegal migration. The increased breakdown of order, and growing poverty of British subjects from that. Also, the British police deciding decades ago that college degrees, the proper political ideology and skin color of officers, and gender equity being the priorities, not effective policing and safe neighborhoods.
Mr khan t
o blame again😢
Why don’t they do something about the knives? It’s bad in this country. Something needs to be done about this. I’ve heard of two majour stabbings in the U.K. now. This and the one in Wales. It’s all going to be bloody mental health again 🙄
What do you propose? Ban all knives and only eat with plastic cutlery? Ban all pointy things? The problem isn't the knife, the problem is culture and a failing society
In Hartlepool too a Moroccan immigrant killed the 70-year-old pensioner..... happen last year he has recently been sentenced....there was very little coverage about it in the msm / bbc.....
Its already illegal to carry a knife over 3” or any length that locks or is a fixed blade (so basically any weapon) without a good reason. Banning objects doesnt work, because criminals don’t follow the law. We need to tackle criminal behaviour, not objects, or very soon you end up banning everything, for everyone.
@@klopgtur5931 I really don’t know what the answer is but I agree this is a societal problem. How do you even ‘regulate’ knives? They are in our homes/kitchens. Used pretty much daily for cooking in my home. All I know is something needs to be done, before more lives are lost. I’m travelling to London with my young son in two weeks - I can’t not. And why should we live in fear? Life has to carry on. No matter how harsh that may sound. I still can’t help feel anxious about travelling on the train to London, especially with my child. I feel like we need to wear padded (like bullet proof) vests. I probably sound over the top but I am genuinely worried.
@@astetic_vibezz319 we're all worried and you should probably just avoid London, but banning knives won't change anything, If we ban everything then no law abiding citizens will have anything to defend themselves with against criminals but criminals will still get their hands on weapons, I mean you can easily create a blade from a random piece of metal. The problem is the breakdown of society through the breakdown of family, masculinity, law and order, responsibilities and discipline, until they are addressed there's not much we can do other than protect ourselves and stay out of danger. This is all thanks to pathetic and weak governance, politically captured education and institutions and agendas being forced onto the public over the last 60 years such as progressive ideology. We have lost our identity and values as a country and we are in a free for all right now.
i dont think the guy was thinking about consquences at that moment ,,,, squaddies on the beat yes better than 4 foot woman who arent fit or 5 foot guys .....
Peter talking sense as usual
I wouldn't even know where to buy a sword. Not that I want one
I could get you one. Don't worry about it being illegal ;-)
@@GavinScrimgeour that's a nope 😆
@@GavinScrimgeour😂😂😂
It's a good point who the hell has a fucking 4 foot sword hanging in the shed...
The sword shop
Put someone capable of running the ‘Met’
From Canada. I have been in the policing world for 17 years and I have seen first hand what happens when policies affecting front line police are implemented without considering the consequences. Officers second guessing themselves in dangerous situations, that if they take the action that is needed and it goes against a policy, that they will lose their job and may end up in jail. “Carpet Cops”, is what we call officers that haven’t seen the inside of a police vehicle or responded to a call in years, but sit in their offices and patrol the hallways. It should be policy that they work with the frontline officers one week a month, every month, in order to experience what frontline officers are dealing with day in day out.
I disagree, all police should be armed and shouldn't be afraid to use their firearm.
Like in Oz and US and France
Well, our native and nativised police would be fine with the responsibility.
People are getting crazy. But then there were four shot dead in America.
I would go the Swiss route… everyone has to have a gun.
Very little crime in Switzerland - like those gun nut towns in America.
Everyone is _real_ polite.
That wouldn't end well! Most of them you couldn't trust with a water pistol, let alone a 9mm! 😂
@@Threemore650 Plus in America there's little crime in the NON-gun-free zones. The crimes tend to happen where the good people don't have guns!
@@matthewcummings9024 yup….
It’s obvious to people who have intelligence, but we are becoming outnumbered by nitwits.
Do gooder's hold your head in shame again. You've let this country be destroyed.
What's the odds that this man was already known to the police, had been arrested and bailed for an offence towards someone in that street, and had come back to finish the job off?
Our entire frontline police SHOULD UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCES be armed. The few that are (outside of the specialist counter terror guys who, to be fair, are pretty pipe hitting door kickers) are mediocre at best. Could you imagine....?
Theres a fair number of Police that probably shouldn't even be Police, never mind be armed.
But the arms manufacturers are only looking at the great chance to make profit; kitting out the entire police force every year.
Don't blame all on metal heath...iv been there where your partner cannot cope devastating on a famiky....but we got through it together.....put Peter in charge of police because officers need direction .....Peter would do that .....not these chocolate teapots Khan a Rowley.....they are a disgrace to us all ....God bless the child's family I have no words....hope injured make a good recovery....
Welcome to LONDON.
No name = not indigenous
But they know his age exactly, immediately, just like the stabber Joe Cauchi in Australia.
Do you think the kid who got killed parents care about the murderers heritage you twat.
Remember when the raoul moat attack was a crazy rare incident?
Now things like this happen nearly every month.
Police on the streets these days are about as rare as a GP appointment
You don't need deterrents, just the law to actually respond justly.
Our new priminster Khan will sort it out as the priminster we got now too busy stuffing cash under has matters
The problem isn’t the knife, the issue is that this lunatic walking the streets would turn anything that he can get his hands on into a weapon.
You have to get rid of Sadik Khan. You will never get crime under control as long as that sociopath is mayor of London
Question. How many machetes and ⚔ plus 🗡 s are in the UK.
Bring back capital punishment.
Maybe now people will see knife crime is not just a black matter it’s a human matter, funny I hear the comparison for this young brother killed but the same comparison isn’t shown when it happens in the black community. We are all suffering from knife crime and we all need more controls in place from the powers above. Prayers to that young brother and his family
I love Peter Bleksley, he's so caring and intelligent, the last of the old good coppers where in those days, I aways considered a policeman as a hero.
That’s right, no deterrent.
"It's just an isolated incident"
Until the next and the next and the next.
This is very sad. Poor child and his family.
The UK is falling apart.
The country must address its class, social and cultural barriers .
The press needs to be positive about its different communities.
The government has to stop underfunding the NHS so that ill people get the care they need.
And putting thousands of guns on the street is a ridiculous situation. Look at the American example. Millions of guns don't help reduce crimes. Serious punishment for crime does make a difference. Talk to the lawyers and the judges.
They have swords and we can have guns? This is why this happens
Armed officers were present very quickly after he was tasered.
The interview fails to mention one deterrent, capital punishment. Yes, an extreme measure, but how often would it have to be deployed before the message sank in that the carrying and use of lethal weapons has severe consequences? It's not even debated.
Wheel out Peter Blecksley there's been a serious crime.
We dont bare arms its not us
does somebody knows the name of the victim? the other day with the "incident" of France we knew the name of the boy (Mathis Marchais) but can not find it for this "Isolated incident"
It took 22 mins for the police to arrive on the scene. How did two officers get slashed too, didn’t they have tasers?
Why do we have Zulus walking the streets of Britain?
When you say we have no deterrents , well we do,we’ve got Sadq Khan and mark Rowley .what more do you want
ENOUGH!!!!!. Lock all politicians in the commens until they make a law against these knife crimes we've all had enough of this senseless slaughter of children. Another Mental Health plea is on the cards here you wait and see. Prayers for the family of this poor child.
In Nice a terrorist in a vehicle who killed 80 people was incapacitated by a French police officer on routine duty. In Britain the outcome would have been difficult.
These are all the signs of a country in decline Iniquity in all is forms manifesting more upon Society each passing day,… Just my opinion,
Decline for some , not all.
It's all to do with drugs.
Police cut is responsible for high crime. Police are reluctant to act on minor crime.
A strong border would be a deterrent to many.
If only we had a strong border 🙏
No name or where he is from could it be he is fresh of the boat
The suspect was tazed, but 2 officers are in hospital with injuries that could have been fatal. Will their injuries have permanent effects? How were they supposed to defend themselves & the public from someone with a huge sword? Arming the police for calls like this makes sense.
TalkTV sure doesn't like people to talk.
Have you seen the state of our police,you can't give half of them a gun just imagine,not right now anyway.
Even prisons not much of a deterrent is it we've all seen what's going on in them, tuck shops, pool tables, computer, games, television, drugs, 4 meals a day, I know it's a joke when people say it's like a holiday camp but I'm been honest here when I say I've been to a worse equipped pontins I say give em a bed and a bucket again
'In the coming days you will see a significant police presence in this area.' Unlike any other day in Khan's London when you can't find one for love nor money unless they're kettling English patriots on St George's day.
Please pray for those poor parent Christian or not pray for our country this is all to much so upsetting and feel so powerless at it all. Things have got to change the government police need to find some way of helping our country and its people. Iv never felt scared in our country and theirs always been crime but now its fighting.
I don’t agree with having armed officers we have specialist units for this I think we should Mabey have more tasers trained officers
There is no deterant that will work with these people.
Peter Bleksley for the love of god please explain how the change to "sector policing" messed up the public's relationship to policing and police officers. Talk about the sale of police houses and the withdrawal of police from our communities. You can not divorce the police changes from the current and being honest....the past TWO generations of mistrust and frankly fear of the police.
Recent issues of criminal behaviour by serving officers has further eroded the public's trust in the MET especially but also in all other police services/forces. It would be constructive to break from the media Dixon of Dock Green rear view mirror speeches and deal with the fact the genie can not be put back in the bottle.
I wasn't scared, but I deferred to, and respected the police. Bu the mid 1960s public attitudes had changed, along with more offensive, dangerous public behaviour.
What about giving the same right to a second amendment to the people, I am sick and tired of hearing about another kid being killed, stabbed or shot in England, specially in London.
We need to be able to defend ourselves and others when danger is present.
When danger happens the police takes forever to respond
Not everyone is suitable or responsible enough to carry a firearm; and that includes former members of the armed services!
We need law abiding citizens to be able to carry side arms . It really is that simple
Carrying a firearm is voluntary.
Current officers are employed on that basis. Many would not pass the training
Former arny are deliberately not recruited in police
I was sent to Walton prison in 1984 aged 19,,for not paying motoring fines, leave it at that
People forget that police is not a force anymore. Is a service. And with this I leave you with your own thoughts.
It's commendable that they care about people so much. I am not sure if I can always think like that.i would have wanted to see them just stop him before he could hurt another person
Deterrents won't make any difference to the seriously mentally ill. Drugs exacerbate the situation, including an ineffective psychiatric system. I expect soon we'll hear he had stopped taking medication, or had told his consultant he felt fine
He should have been despatched. Not tased and arrested.
What is the name & origin of this ' 36 year old man ' ?
With out water you will die ,but sadly we are drowning 8
Rip 😢 that little boy on way to school
🥲💔
House of Parliament....."We are all sadden and shocked our thoughts are with those involved" now let's get back to point scoring against each other, we have an election round the corner.
Get the Army patrolling the streets if the police don't want to.
Welcome to the United kingdom
It is best for people in relatively unsafe areas, to either make, buy, or be issued like a shield they can use to defend themselves against knife attacks or a bullet perhaps just as a hand held guard, opens in & out same as electric rechargeable tasers, with a record of use for women if risks of being attacked...
What about bringing back capital punishment?
The Police were quick enough to shoot two dogs which posed no threat but were killed because they were over zealous due to inaccurate reports. Yet in this case no guns - just one brave lady Policewoman with a taser and what looked to be Police seriously out of their depth. A child has lost his life that is unbelievable. There is no deterrent and these problems will get much worse. Sincere condolences to the family of this little boy who has lost his life in the most horrific circumstances. Sadly, I feel that we need the army on the streets as the Police are no longer able to deal with the crime on the streets of the UK.
Remember its not terror related the police say so !!
I think many Officers are too immature and biased to carry Arms.
It would be interesting though to see what weapons came out during Marches.
Former soldiers are not representing the communities? Is that Chief of the police for real??? My husband served the full 24 years, like the gentleman who called in and I've been there with him for 21 years of that. Soldiers represent EVERY community, because they come from EVERY community and work with people from EVERY community. That is how simple it is, Mr Chief and your perception of reality is false! Soldiers can talk to every member of a community, because getting along with everybody of any community is part of their job. Without being able to do that, they'd put their own and every other soldiers' lives at risk. You, Sir, Mr Chief, are arrogant and clueless and you endanger lives being in your job. It should be somebody like Peter Bleksley, who knows what he is talking about. I'd feel much, much saver knowing Mr Bleksley in charge.