Russia's looming Victory Day: What success can Putin claim in Ukraine?
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- Äas pĆidĂĄn 1. 05. 2022
- Thousands of civilians have been killed and millions of others have been displaced since the start of Russia's invasion of Ukraine, on 24th February. Having failed to capture Kyiv in the early weeks of the war. Moscow has been focusing military efforts on crushing resistance in Ukraine's south and east. Towns in the east are currently facing intense Russian bombardment.
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Russia want celebrate victory against nazis but they are now on the wrong side from history and act themself like nazis invaders. That's a strange feeling and a shame in history of this country.
19:09 as a romanian all i can say is ... LET THEM COME ! Let them sipp from our BITTERNESS ... im not exagerrating when im telling you that for Russia going FURTHER than Ukraine it will be a MAMOTH venture . They will curse their own soul for even ATTEMPTING it
Very soon you will have a new neighbor to give NATO a thought
@@GlobalSouthObserver It's incredible how Russia managed to move closer to NATO borders without actually physically moving
The uk đŹđ§ will stand with you !!
Iâd stand with you too!
we feel the same in Baltics, let them come
Omg, she's gonna be arrested. I understand that she is trying to get out the truth but please protect urself
Sheâs a hero.
I'm glad and very happy for
The Civilians to be able to make it out safety.
Thy kan go since weeks đžđđŒ
Yeah.... Not before losing a few limbs to never banned use of Mines.
Or some more desperate Ruski's opening fire on the corridors,
Nobody will forget.
@@battlefieldP4Fbeta nato ukro pinokio lies you tell đžđđŒ
Russian tactics and strategies have been less like a pincer movement, and more like a bowel movement.
I think Putin went in his pants. Lavrov certainly looks that way.
A big, long, deep sh*t, into where they eat.
Thatâs very funny. Thank you!!
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Well said.
Alexandra is incredibly brave. I hope that she's not arrested and thrown into a gulag.
Russia should grow up!!!
The ukrainian war criminals wil get what thy ask for when thy are not war criminals then not ,,,so it wil be and its good đœđđŒ
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Oh yeah, another account made 7 months ago...
@@Anita-k ja sachen gibs die versteht ein ukro nato troll nicht đœđđŒ
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Und was verstehe ich nicht Deiner Meinung nach?
Please ensure the safety of the lady in Russia.
How to ensure? Pray for God fearing russian people, as Mother of God Mary asked her children, as she said would happen, to the children of Fatima Portugal đ”đč.
She is not so important to waste an expensive bomb to kill her
So u shouldn't worry đ she is safe as long as she stays far away from military Buildings
Why aren't all western media adding Russian subtitles to their broadcasts on YT?? And put some serious effort to informing your viewers that you now have it, and how to turn it on!! Or just permanently put it on your broadcasts so that they are there when you start playing the vid.
That wud b a gud idea but Russians donât have access - only state media is allowedâŠ
@@camillep9346 Not true! Russians still have full access to CZcams. That's why I'm completely baffled to why this haven't been implemented yet.
What a great program. I wish our American journalists will take a look at how a round table is conducted. Everybody starts to talk and are allow to finish. WHAT A REWARDING SHOW.
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How can Mariupol be called a victory by the "Butcher of Moscow" this is sheer brutal terror, at least over 20,000 people were killed and so far, he has committed 8000 war crimes in just 4 months, which is not acceptable! This is so sickening, Russian soldiers are part of the Butcher regime, in fact, they are not trained as soldiers they are trained killers including killing innocent civilians! Mariupol must remain in Ukraine. Pepsee
Who said that?
Now it will be called: "Defeat Day".
Lavrov sounds like he's in a different reality.
This is such an informative show. I cannot believe how good the journalism can be on France 24 English. I am so happy to have a sensationalism-free discussion show like this to hear. Listening to informed people from Russia and from Ukraine as well as this Nato/Ukraine professional, this is excellent programming. Kudos to the producers and journalist. Thank you from Montreal.
Canada forever.
An excellent summary of the situation, with both positive and negative issues reviewed.
I like this British lady. Nice to hear "truth,"
Absolutely!!! She's so accurate it's not funny.. Yayyy love her
Excellent discussion - thanks
Itâs going to be a much shorter parade this year with all the equipment destroyed and all the soldiers that have died for nothing.
They can always place the corpses of their dead soldiers on trucks, this would add some 5km of trucks to the parade.
I'm hoping that someone will hack the air raid sirens all over Moscow for the parade.
Maybe the tires will fall off their vehicles! đđ€Łđđ€Ł
Russia getting there butts kicked beat they can not claim victory over nothing my us navy man from first Lebanon war opion
Hopefully this all comes to a peaceful resolution. And soon.
This is traumatic and we need to help these citizens. Very interesting talks.
The French is lecturing the world on how to win a war, when they haven't won one.
Def: Irony
Been defeated by a rag tag army called comoros only for the US to come to thrir aidđ€đ
Soon a date will be chosen as Ukrainian Victory Day đșđŠđșđŠđșđŠ
@@vg9137 hey bud. You just found out that CZcams exists in January this year? It explains why your channel is so empty. Looks like you've made your account to make comments only. Genius!
@@vg9137 After the russians had tryed to starve them to death.
Oh yes! And what a celebration we will have!! Slava Ukraini đșđŠ
Deep strikes east of Belgorod Russia
đ for you. But we need you to mention and report the subtitles we don't have time to read it. can you please?
He added two very powerful members to NATO, changed Swiss neutrality, and now Chyna is presenting maps which include "new" territory of Siberia and the Urals, seemingly without concern for pootin's.. feelings. Perhaps they can have it and call it, "problems with having a dictatorship for a government" day? Merci ))
the question is "what will Ukraine agree to" not "Ukraine and the west." Ukraine will not give up part of their country. Let them continue the 'special operation." Russian soldiers will leave Ukraine on their on. They realize they will not win and are dieing.
Ye USA prove this long ago
General Jean-Paul Palomeros is very impressive. France-24 should give him a 40 minute segment to discuss the war in Ukraine.
Why do journalists say uh, eh, ehmm, every four words?
SLAVA UKRAINI!
Too bad France4 English & CZcams are sleazy, and hide content.
Puppet of the west
This year May 9th parade is more like a funeral procession for 20,000 dead russian soldiers
It's very telling how the mainstream media treated and depicted Iraqi dictator Saddam Hussein then, and how it portrays Neo-Bolshevik Russia's dictator Vladimir Putin now? It just tells you that Hussein and Putin belong to different camps, and that the Western plutocracies have no particular aversion for Russian Bolshevism which wants to "deNatify" Nationalistic Ukraine, or "Nazi Ukraine" for short, as they call it.
Incomprehensible.
I find the France 24 debate one of the most detailed and truthful analysis of this war to be found. Thank you for your efforts.
I agree and support this type of analysis! Even if Frightening!
Thanks F24, you always have a solid panel
Hey Russians, don't believe what your TV says; Believe your refrigerator!
And Ukrainian washing machine.
One for all and all for one glory to Ukraine đșđŠ
half of Ukraine is already destroyed, don't watch western media news
Slava Ukraini đđđșđŠ
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Slava Ukraini, heroaim slava đ«đźđșđŠ
Ukraine should have a parade on the same day full of Ukrainian tractors pulling captured Russian equipment through Kyiv
YES!!!
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I expect a call for a general mobilization and a declaration of war against NATO and US on May 9th.
Then hopefully the Russians will rise up and say no!
Iâm thinking that too
Yikes lmao đ€Ł
Thank you, good show, good diverse group with varying perspectives on an overall similarly shared viewpoint
"...diverse group..." - are you slow or something?!?
@@Brave2standalone he is ptobably an employee
Has to be.
Being diverse doesn't make anyone special
Is china going tell russia back off from odessa
Cannot discuss war in russia really strange
Russia needs to be made an example of and pay for this aggression for at least decades.
Un excellent résumé de la situation, avec des points positifs et négatifs passés en revue. ( Comme le dit William Barrett ci dessous!) Ou est la version en Français?
Farmers need to plant in ukraine
Yes but we are living in the E N D times, the 7year Tribulation with the world leader/Antichrist is right around the corner, that's GOD'S judgement upon all unbelievers! But there is hope - get saved and be rapture ready: accept JESUS CHRIST as your Lord and Savior today!!!
Please study biblical end times prophecy; listen to Dr. Ron Rhodes on end times chronology.
Wonder how many military vehicles will be in the Victory parade and even make it to the start and finish. Lol
Why doesn't the UN do anything about this?
Someone needs to remind Putin he never would have had that Victory without the United States who built the roads for him supplied gas for him
Putzky..."the sky too is folding over you, and it's all over now, baby blue..."
They can claim the Moskva successfully turned into fish sanctuary
Yes it should make a nice reef
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5 Conscript offices have been burnt down with Molotov cocktails inside of Russia, that's absolutely fantastic!đđđ
= Russian offices that are storing important information about the young military-able men*, who could be dragged into the war as future conscripts ... that's freaking amazing bc it shows, that the Russians have their own style of demonstrating and revolting against this war!
Hopefully this'll be a very short Russian May 9th mmilitary parade this year...
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(* Sorry if this part isn't worded perfectly and even to me it sounds awkwardly, but I'm from Austria/Europe and not a native English speaker, I apologize).
It could also be a false flag operation to hide the names of those already sent into the invasion.
Remember that russia does not declare its losses & that it was only after the fall of the USSR that Russians discovered the number of their losses in Afghanistan.
No need to apologize for trying. Those that say differently it's because they don't agree with you.
death to America
and thenïŒ
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Thank you!
Great discussion
There is only one thing left in life for these people.
Let's believe the Ukraine national government survives.
Russia is warned that going back will be an attack on a Ukraine that is a NATO member.
The people can perhaps be reunited in cities so that they can meet friends and family. At least those who survived.
Life and memories will have to see them through to a rebuilt Mariupol. And other cities and villages.
He can claim he killed an unprecedented # of civilians and displaced 5 million . That's victory according to his playbook âŒïž and his mindâŒïž
Europe get going take the lead
I'm still praying and hoping that Democracy will prevail and Ukrain Ukrain get the victory.
you should look it up what Democracy even is xD
@@lordbayron8510 Speak up your mind without the fear of being poisoned, thrown in jail or murdered for starters...?
Gran debate, muy interesante. Gracias!
Good discussion.
We shall not make any threat of nuclear aggression be a deterrent to stop defending world peace and global stability.
The old days of going to war for other countries land is long gone.
Now we live in a more civilized world. And we should continue on that path
Europe is a cultural continent, not a geological one.
What victory can putin claim?
I know, he's helping the next batch of Ukrainian sunflowers grow đ
World record set for most international sanctions levied against one country
đ€ Don't forget he has boosted NATO & European Alliance membership by adding new member states.
He has allowed ex soviet block countries to use up old weapons & munitions allowing Europe to switch to & purchase NATO standard munitions. Making it easier for NATO to support European countries.
He has United most of the rest of the world against his version of Russia. đ€·ââïž
No one can hide the truth forever
Peter Zalmayev seems to be saying that if at the end of this war, that Russia ends up bringing a huge swathe of what was territory controlled by Kyiv prior to February 24 under its control, Ukraine will have won and Russia will have lost because it won't have conquered the whole country. Even if worst comes to worst and all of what Putin considers Novorossiya is overrun, however improbable that would be, the Russians lost and Glory to Ukraine, the valiant victors. Is this really what he thinks? Surely there should have been an effort by the host to see if he really believed what he seemed to be saying.
I do not understand why the ukrain e's neighbors are not helping them fight in this war I know Poland has helped a lot but it's just kind of beside me that they have to go way over on the other side of the world where the United States is at to get help when they have friends Germany Finland Switzerland European nations you know if somebody could give me a response back on this I would sure appreciate it
Do those that want to go to Russia go East and those that want Ukraine get to go West?
The Russians get to hell out of Ukraine including Crimea.
Give unto Putin that which is his.
No Russians forcing Ukrainians east.
That was a realy good informative debatte.
The Russian army is too gutless to actually enter Avozstal without destroying it first.
It seems a bit perverse for Vlad to celebrate Ukraineâs victory over âmother Russiaâ on the ninth.
Sad when helpless people and no one to help them.
The US should target for record production of wheat and corn, subsidize the price difference, and offer the grain to those countries in need from the effects of the war in Ukraine. We can overproduce quite easily if the incentive is there, our farmers love record harvests if the price is there to support their gambles. đœ đœ đœ đŸ đŸ đŸ
nothing new here just repeating the same old sentences
Yes you are.
Claim what you like.
The clock will tell the real truth.
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Zalmayev, diplomatic but a hard realist.. Says it as it Is
No speakers, person/s from the Ukraine independent states..So just a debate within the SET bubble! I could watch this on any western media
Unbelievable! Comparing Angelina J. and Elon M. with Lenin and the USSR Red flag!
йДпДŃŃ ĐŸĐœ бŃĐŽĐ”Ń ĐœĐ°Đ·ŃĐČĐ°ŃŃŃŃ: "ĐĐ”ĐœŃ ĐżĐŸŃĐ°Đ¶Đ”ĐœĐžŃ".
This is like the attitude of Israel over Palestine.
Big success, Hitler's dream came true facisct soldiers will finally be marching in the Red Square.
Yes
Wagner Group, Kadyrovites.
Too Bad! But don't lose your hope for peace.
Very informative ..
"we don't have the same amount of money".
Well Europe combined has actually slightly more GDP than then US. I understand Europe is not one country and Russia is counted in that but still. combined Europe is every bit as much wealthy as the US.
Ideally Putin goes for surgery and doesn't wake up then Russia withdraws from Ukraine and we all can live on.
Would be lovely!!
Aww look at all these high and virtuous and trustworthy guests. If only they were consistent in their views and values, and discussed/condemned the us/nato invasions in the same manner, their opinions would actually mean something.
Whom did NATO invade?
Very very sad maripol city bombing
I do not get it Ukraine never bombed Russian cities very very sad Russia should be prosecuted for war crimes bombing Ukraine cities
Puttin can clams he won a defeat at the hands of Ukraine military
Reaper is calling Wladimir at his medical operation âąïž
Where is this Mayor you are talking about? Is he in Marioupul or is he Not !
SHALOM
Brilliant discussion đ
Why ponder on the past?
One month later, DWs lies and propaganda are so obvious. Karma comes for you.
Ahora se llamara '"Dia de la derrota".
Atmosphere in Russia will definitely not change until May 10th.
Claim?? The gangster would continue to lie as always...
He can claim they are back at cold was status. Big win.
God blessđ
Putin might be wondering and wondering unfortunately he can do.. who's actually flying those drones? Are they only just being launched by ukrainians?
Impressed by all on the panel.
Maybe Russia will be showing the buildings that they have destroyed on May 9
The arrogance of Putin to think other âterritoriesâ, meaning Moldova, Georgia and on, WANT or wud ACCEPT a RE-Unification with .Russia!!! Who would advise him this is a possibility??
As a citizen of Russia I can say
We dont have any expectation and we dont want any formal victory to 9th may .
For us what really matters its our
soldiers safety .
Maybe go out onto the streets and say it on May 9th. Russians need to take responsibility. Doing nothing is not an answer.
How about peace and the end of this war? What about the genocide?
Russia must leave Ukraine and then we will have peace. The Ukrainian people don't want to be ruled by Russia, that must be plain for everyone to see.
You can't claim to speak for all Russians
Too late for that.
Macron failed every chance to get the piece with Putin last months. Who delegated Macron to negotiate on Ukraine?
The EU has more money than the USA. But yes, they have much smaller âattachments.â
None!!!!!!!!!!
Russia is already the largest country in the world. Why it needs to expand further, when it has less people than Bangladesh? If all Russians "must" live in Russia, why Russia does not leave vast non Russian areas?