In the name of de-nazification: Why May 9th matters for Putin's war in Ukraine
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- čas přidán 3. 05. 2022
- What surprise will he spring on May 9th? All eyes on Vladimir Putin ahead of what has become on his watch the most sacred day on the Russian calendar. Victory Day in World War Two means remembrance of the estimated 26 million who lost their lives while turning the tide in what is dubbed there the Great Patriotic War.
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May 9th is not a good day to start a war but it is a good day to end one.
That's what he is going to do. Nuke the world on may 9th 2022.
“Pride always comes before a fall”
America's and the UK are over do
@@raymondgreen5700 Now that’s an interesting statement.
@@raymondgreen5700 I don't understand what that statement means
Correct pride always comes first before destruction.
@@oboostrauss8760 but what does it mean
"Can't we all just get along?" ~ Rodney King
Doubt he thought that with a Billy club up his a##...
Seems like we can’t
Excellent quote. Thank you. It’s really that simple isn’t it?
Russia helped the Nazis until they turned on them 😂 or do they forget that? If I were Russian I would try to forget all about that war 🤭
The soviets denied it until perestroika. Same thing with Katyn. People like Putin and Lavrov were educated pre-perestroika, where they heard nothing about any soviet-nazi non-aggression pact, nothing about katyn, and nothing about any holocaust of the jews (they were just more “soviet” victims).
Celebrating the end of a war by starting a war...🙄🤔
What a shame it would be if someone would ruin the party on victory day.
You mean like a A10 Warthog...
@@buddy1155 their nuclear forces will ruin your day
@@anthonyloveanthonylove2159 Their nuclear forces don’t work. They let those missiles fall apart years ago. Why do you think they are in such a rush to develop new ones
@@anthonyloveanthonylove2159 you are making the nuclear threat rather often, Ivan
@@buddy1155 😂 that would be horrific. Depleted uranium rounds into gathered masses?! I wouldn't wish that on anyone
WW2 ended 76 years ago and it still Putin's most important event?
Putin needs to get a life.
John Smith try to talk sense, can we erase historical events because they happened 76 years ago
putin very likely is soon to lose his life
The population of London in 2022 is about 9 million.
In wwii the United Kingdom lost 383,700 military, or a total of 450,900 that includes civilians.
These people getting interviewed on the street are afraid to say what they really believe.
Or maybe they are concerned about the western translation being corrupted? or perhaps the media for cutting the clips as they do to make it sound nothing like it was intended??
Вы серьезно так думаете??? Вам внушают что мы живем в страхе????? Нет это вы живёте в страхе! Вам какое дело до наших парадов???? Это наш праздник !!!! У вас ваши гей парады,а у нас наши великие парады победы!!!!! Мы его проводим каждый год с 1945 .... Вы кто такие что бы нас судить?? Что вы вообще о России знаете кроме того что вам внушают ваши политики????? Вы сдались немецким фашистам без борьбы!!! Батрачили на вермахт а потом в 1945 году примазались к победе с советским союзом...
@@user-yt3zl6sz7y it's ok to say you're being held hostage
@@user-yt3zl6sz7y, Сколько картошки вам Путин платит за то, что вы говорите эту чушь? Я надеюсь, что этого достаточно, чтобы накормить вашу семью. Я бы не хотел, чтобы они голодали.
Uzbekistan was the first country to articulate a critical position. Already in mid-March, long-time Uzbek foreign minister Abdulaziz Kamilov told the country’s parliament that the government supports Ukraine’s territorial integrity and would reject any notion of recognizing the Russia-supported Donetsk and Luhansk republics in eastern Ukraine. Soon after, however, Kamilov was reported to have fallen ill and to be receiving treatment abroad, before being transferred to the National Security Council (which some have taken to be some sort of reprimand). But Uzbekistan’s government has not rescinded his statement, indicating that Kamilov’s words stand.
Lavrov de Pavlov doesn't look the camera in the eye. lol
This war is a shame to Russia.
How is the Russian aggression any different than Naziism or Islamic extremism?
Because its defense of eastern ukranians. The aggression comes comes from the installed leadership of ukraine. They were murdering their own people for 8 years. And they would have kept murdering their own. But Putin stepped up. Putin is a hero.
What about the real aggression by kievs anti Russia government in Eastern Ukraine that has been happening since 2014,so many Russian speaking people killed and persecuted and West will nt even bother to talk about the rights of those people because they don't care about human rights
Or the war against Palestinian?
@@byttlejuice145 Yes..Palestinian aggression against innocent Israelis must Stop
No aggression is right don't matter who is doing it...
This is not a debate.
Seems like May 9th would be a good time for the Ukranians to launch a major counter offensive.
They dont have forces die that
remember when we saw that column of tanks and armored vehicles at the start, same for germany ww2
french recon planes spotted the full panzer division trying to go trough the ardennes, and command told him that he was crazy and probably was seeing things cause there was no way
Z
Ukrainian dnt have the balls to counter... Dnt compare them to the Vietnamese... They can be compared to the taliban though lol
Better to attack in the morning of May 10th: Russians in hangover will be easy targets.
If anything we have learned from Russia.. their military power ranking is much lower than previously thought. Probably could lower China too cause that military has NO war experience and is SUPER corrupt.
I think Russian military is number one, The USA hasn’t had any war where over 40 countries supporting their enemy and flooding the country with weapons lol, how would the US have done it over 40 countries was supporting Iraqi or Libya, or Afghanistan ?
What did the world witness a few months ago at Afghanistan ? US soldiers die just in bringing own people and friends home.
It matters not when they eventually use their nukes
If anything we have learned from the USA in Afganistan... their military power ranking is much lower than previously thought.
whatever helps u sleep at night
If Putin was wise, he would withdraw all the Russian troops out of Ukraine, but I highly doubt his mental faculty. Other wise he would use the 9th May occasion to declare official withdrawal of all Russian troops from Ukraine to save the little left of his reputation and legacy.
right, if he was a bit of a man he would admit his mistakes, apologize and withdraw.
It WON'T happen. He is a small man with a huge ego. Defeat in Ukraine means the end od his power and could cost his life as well.
Hopefully he declares all out war and takes out the nazi leadership
In the Name of De-Nazification the spirit of Hitler lives inside Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin.
he is not he walks the steps of stalin 1 on 1. except does not have a partner in crime like stalin had with hitler.
“Doesn’t have a win to show” he couldn’t say it with a straight face 😂😂😂
Only reply to this message by making dumb claims about 'infrastructure'if you support rapist murderers and eat your own plop
@@highgatehandyman6479 Do you mean that destroying infrastructure is not a win?
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@@botoyo7374 no, it's not
.z@@swedishdharmatarotchristin6733 killing people is not a win.
Victory day for Putin will be a display of "classic" russian armor 😂
Putin can borrow the cardboard tanks from Kim Jung Un
Do they issue "antique license plates" for their "classics". lol
Russia has just one major battle to defeat already weak germany,, its US and UK fought neckbto neck germans untill they are weakin,, just likebun japan, its US defeating japan but russia declared war in japan when japan are already planning surrender to US,,
Scared of imposing a no fly zone in Ukraine to save civilians you have no right to mock on Russian hardware
@@buddy1155 smelly old diesel tanks with new paint
I much admire the Russians for their sacrifices in WWII. They do have the right to celebrate their victory. Keep celebrating your victory; however, do not let that victory turn you into war criminals. Do not allow that victory blind you to progress. Do not use that great victory to make you enemies to the whole world.
Stop the war in Ukraine; learn to live in peace and friendship with the rest of the world, PLEASE!!!
Do you have any advice for NATO expansion too ? Who pushed Russia this far ?
It’s Zalensky who said at the German Parliament 5 days before the war started the he would not remain a NEUTRAL country, but would pursue nuclear weapons. You like most people have been fooled and only look at the superficial. Once Ukraine has nuclear weapons it is too late for Russia. Zalensky made his intentions known, Russia has responded. Why would any leader who wanted peace say they intend to obtain nuclear weapons when they live next to a superpower? Poor Ukraine😳 it didn’t know that saying that would cause a war😂😂😂😂😂 oh there’s nothing like playing the victim and a heap of European sharks ready to read the picture to their favour……..the west is displaying pathetic character, lucky the world is more than virtue signalling hypocrites. The south has humility and wisdom long lost by the cerebrally paralysed west.
@@anthonyloveanthonylove2159 so how many countries have Nato invaded and are occupying in 2022..
The British Commonwealth and USA are the Victors of WW2 while USSR , China and Poland were the victims. The Nazis had fewer casualties than the Soviets.
@@anthonyloveanthonylove2159 did you ask Russia neighbors why they’ll eager to join nato?
This year, it will be a single-file parade for marching groups with all tanks, missiles and other military vehicles and weapons moving very slowly in Russia’s famous “Convoy Stuck on Highway” formation.
Bombers would have made that bridge #Bifrøst
to their advanced paratroopers
a #HighwayToHell.
Brilliant
@badeed xildiid Such an expensive diversion 🤣🤣
Like the NATO members stuck in Afganistan against naked afgans for 20 years and then just run away leaving their weapon? Lol
@@andreyg.2388Almost like rushist army did before?
Ukrainians may the 4th be with you!
The germans at leningrad had grantes with Z markings. found last month in the iron river. the irony it is now the russian symbol.
It would be ironic, I though associate "Z" with Zoro. Was always a memory from childhood.
Wow , didn"t know that . Isn"t that one heck of a not .
I've read that Germans had some special division called 'Zentrum' (centre)
Azov Battalion (Batalión Azov)
Military unit
The Azov Special Operations Detachment, until September 2014 also known as the Azov Regiment or Azov Battalion, is a neo-Nazi unit of the National Guard of Ukraine based in Mariupol in the coastal region of the Sea of Azov, from where it derives its name.
I don't find anything bad about the "Z" symbol in particular. It's all relative. For me, it's a symbol of my home country. I will always love Russia, like my own father, like my own mother. Even if the whole world against us.
Russians caught with their pants down when Ukraine attacks "eastern city of Izyum killed about 200 Russian troops, including Maj. Gen. Andrei Simonov, but just missed hitting the chief of the general staff of the Russian military, Gen. Valery Gerasimov..." wounded... Missing Legs? Arms? Brains? Zombie Army of the Apocalypse march towards defeat... Russian Headquarters wiped out??? Can one Switchblade Drone do this kind of damage?
Apparently he was wounded in the leg - maybe ‘self-inflicted’
Indeed
Why isn't Patrick Lancaster invited to this talk? 🤔
Why is France 24 deleting comments?
Get Ukraine the 20 Mig-29's offered two months ago.
I can't wait to see this parade. Let's see if any of the military vehicles can make the short trip from start to finish. Or even find the start and finish points. Lol
Gee Larry do you think that Ukraine finds it so funny, don't think so.
Lol. They do it every year. If it was something alike you would have it all over the news constantly. I guess that's why they do practice parades beforehand to check everything is functioning properly.
They will be using the very reliable Ukrainian tractor to pull tanks during parade.
Ukrainian tractor can pull the burnt out hulls around red square. Take a lot of vodka to make it a celebration.
You missed previous victory parades you don’t have to watch the may 9 you can watch last yeas parade it was lit
What about Oil libration operation carried out by NATO in Iraq and Libya
On May 9th some of the vehicles in the parade will be towed by Ukrainian tractors.
I would pay to see that! 😂😂😂
Here's hopping nothing brakes down again durn his Parade like in previous one's! With near half his troops missing that would just be a spanner in the works 😆 🤣 😂
'A poor peace is better than a good war'.
I think the war will last a year at least with Ukraine working to claw back the southern coast line to as far as possible to Crimea. Ukraine has fully mobilized and will not wind back their military effort. The West will continue to support Ukraine right up to including Ukraine in NATO, primarily because Russia was up front with Nuclear threats. The West will now be in a race to evaluate the military reality of this war from a weaponry perspective and there will be massive change in approach. The Russian “jumping” land mines are a real issue that needs a solution. How China adapts from this war will be very telling.
Very good discussion. Thanks.
Whatever. Thinking is not for everybody...
Cope
Denazification to be done in Russia. Not in other countries.
You’re being sarcastic right?
1980s classic airshow Moscow
Finland and Sweden need to join NATO on the 8th.
In theory, Orthodox Easter, not Victory Day, is the most sacred day of the year in Russia.
no it is not for socialist and communist they do not believe in the teachings of religion. but in the ways of marx.
@@boelensds ??? Why would Marx make the destruction of Germany the greatest holliday? Your remarks are so out of place.
@@TremereTT you are clueless.
Ukraine fight fight hard fight to survive and when May 9th comes do not cease fire you keep it's time to go on the offensive I hope that you can retake every inch of land that Putin has stolen from you including Crimea
"Mr Tin of Poo....." Just say it with a James Bond movie Russian accent and remember to roll the "r" in Mr. You'll fell better just for saying it!
“Litimation” 😂😂😂
Yes.
That reason enough makes me question Putin’s sanity.
0:29, giving an idea
Watching from the Philippines
How can Mariupol be called a victory by the "Butcher of Moscow" this is sheer brutal terror, at least over 20,000 people were killed and so far, he has committed 8000 war crimes in just 4 months, which is not acceptable! This is so sickening, Russian soldiers are part of the Butcher regime, in fact, they are not trained as soldiers they are trained killers including killing innocent civilians! Mariupol must remain in Ukraine. Pepsee
russian army just a gang...😜
Where you there? If you wasn't you are repeating what you are told.
What about the Butcher's of the U.S. in Iraq, over 1 million Murdered.
@@angelmario7085 The U.S. and their NATO Crime Partner's are a Gang. That is why this whole situation unfolded.
@@raymondgreen5700 . Given the information thus far , this would seem to be more than likely so . I
'm sure if new information was presented , opinions and the narrative would change.
"I have a cunning plan" ~ Baldrick
“My man Anton, my pal Anton wants to say something” 😂
0:46 Toldya 😪
Reaper comes to PUTINS medical operation and turns Ventilator from oxygen to Novitschok
It is one of the ironies that the comments of Lavrov himself couldn't be more anti-Semitic, and that the dominant ideologies in Moscow are ultranationalistic.
...and that they support and finance all fascist parties in EU... and the Wagner group is founded by an open neo-nazi....
It's like all this was just a bogus pretext to conquer land...
They never said 9th may as the important dates from russia
26 million? If that's winning I'll take losing every time.
2 of the guests that were brought up in Russia have never been to the Moscow parade as they were in st Petersburg , so didn’t give a great account of it. Great inviting of guests 😂
Yeah this one was a bit of a dud...
The comments on Odesa were interesting and the mobilization of fresh Ukrainian troops. The parade itself is not really the point, but its symbolism throughout Russia is pertinent.
Having experienced the spectacle of the parade is not particularly important to the discussion at hand.
That's the first thing the guy said about himself, it's not like he's trying to hide it. I also fail to see how this disqualifies him to talk about the subject, unless you're a Putinist troll who's desperate for something to criticize.
@@benoitbvg2888
Nobody is disqualified from saying things they don't know anything about.
Speech is free.
All other countries around the world have forgotten WW2 for years ,but Russia still celebrates every year because Russia has NOTHING to be proud of after WW 2 while all other countries have become economic superpowers but Russia remains a developing country.
The Soviets had a good space program and had many firsts. Poo-tin is first in Russian grandiosity.
Don't assume what your experience as all other countries, you can't make a conclusion and apply it for everyone.
@@owenhoong88 it’s naked fact. Russia is not the only victors but dozen of countries like US , UK , France etc have forgotten. Tell me which country still celebrate the Victory day besides Russia? As far as I know, maybe China…
@@owenhoong88 they always think, the world start and ends in the west
@@owenhoong88 It is true that no other country has mythologized WWII to so great a degree. USSR did give the most casualties in that war and gained huge territory. There may be insufficient acknowledgment though of the contribution of lend/lease, of the military weakness resulting of Stalin’s purges, and of Stalin’s management of the war which resulted in such numbers of casualties. Russia also fails to admit the effect of the Holodomor which influenced many Ukrainians to collaborate with Nazis.
Great production and content. Thank you !#Removeputinnow
They call it a "debate" but everyone agrees with each other what a clown world we live in
100% agree
I just find it embarrassing how France24 and DW try incessantly to downplay the Soviet (Russian) victory in WWII and almost seem to ridicule Russians for continuing to celebrate the victory (the most important event in modern European history). It has the smell of historical revisionism. In the "spirit" of such revisionism, there is already a memorial to Stepan Bandera in Munich (as well as those erected in recent years in the western part of Ukraine). Should we now expect further Bandera statues in Paris and Berlin?
We have liberated Europe from fascism, but they will never forgive us. ~ Marshal Georgy Zhukov, 1945
Now that sounds like an excellent target on that Putin Day
He wanted to make that a Historical Day, Give him his wish
a Nuclear Fire Cracker With him Present 🤣
I agree. I hope there will be some kind of attack during his parade. That would be awesome
there is no Banderite in Ukraine?
There are no skinheads in Russia? All the evidence is there are... loads!
OB88, Nashi, Russkii Obraz Rusich, Russian Imperial Movement, etc
What kind of debate is this, when those who can tell why were not invited?
I can't wait until we find aliens so we can stop hating each other and focus on saving the planet
May day celebration is not very appropriate celebration for an invasion.
Hello France!
Very interesting, balanced, and informative. Thank you!
The Victory Parade should feature blown up Russian tanks, vehicles, and equipment. Carried on Z flatbed trucks of course.
Having looked up the two female's credentials ,and their association with Chatham House, not much more needs to be said, other than Think thank and Propaganda.
I wish this interviewer would stop interrupting.
Victory Day .cool, another Paul McCartney rock concert ! 🎶 I'm back in the U.S.S.R.
You don't know how lucky you are, boy
Back in the U.S.S.R. Yeah! 🎶
""Long live free Ukraine with all its territory ! Да здравствует свободная Украина со всей ее территорией.Longue vie a l'Ukraine avec tout son territoire.""
Поляки так не считают, готовьте Кресы!
Europe needs to step up !
Who is this reporter that is upholding putin comments .
Putin will not appear in public or will he ? This video in the church at eastern was prefilmed..
He will be there ...
... in post-production
Min. 2:50, VE Day signed by all allies on May 8, Stalin ordered his own VE Day and made it all over again on the 9th. the only celebrant, the USSR.
Wasn't there a good reason for that? Like the news only reached Moscow on the 9th? Or because of time zones? But yeah.
@@benoitbvg2888 Djugashvili wanted his own day, his own USSR celebration, besides the time zones changes etc
They will have to get some Ukrainian tractors to pull their broken down tanks.
Russians actually stole a lot of Ukrainian tractors, but many of thrm got disabled as they have anti-theft security.
I don't know man. Early on he was ranting about communism, now naziism. Make up your mind, Vlad.
Oh and what shall we call you when you are actually worse than the nazis you are looking for.
That is a good question. WWII in Europe officially ended on May 8, when Admiral Karl Dönitz signed the official surrender of the 3rd Reich. So why do the Russians celebrate it one day later?
it was may 9 in russia
because the soviets wanted the germans to surrender to them aswell, which happened 9th of may, so for them this is the day of victory
@@cristobalstark6929 что значит и им???? На подписании капитуляции Сталин дал возможность не потерять лицо французам и позволил им так же участвовать при акте капитуляции ... немцы сами были удивлены увидев представителей Франции сказав :а что они нас тоже победили???? Вы так пытаетесь присвоить победу во Второй Мировой войне что готовы на любые подлости , но вплоть до того что поддерживаете нацистов на Украине... тьфу на вас
News media should boycott coverage of this.
What type of debate is this !!??? All the speakers are selected or just one track mind.. against Putin... Canned the debate , then. Dang !
Yeah...they really missed a trick when they didn't invite a putinist bootlicker
When one thinks that he/ she is on the right side of history, he/she is almost certainly on the wrong side of the time present.
No way fights will start at this Parade
Soo, what's nazi education?? Does it means i'm a nazi because i got 6 in world war 2 history? Shiiiiet🤣🤣🤣
Blow it up all my with Pittin
I don't know but a "Victory in Defeat" speech May 9 is going to be a tough slog.
But what if what if Russia starts attacking supply lines
I think the world war II victory Day thing is getting old. Now we've been celebrating it for almost 80 years when does it stop? Almost everybody that fought in that war is now dead. It seems like sooner or later you have to move on. It will stay in the history books forever but to continue to celebrate it when the country's involved are completely different countries today seems pointless to me.
This is exactly why they are celebrating as few remember the reality of the war as they attacked the Baltic states, they attacked Finland, they attacked Eastern Poland.
VE Day is not that celebrated in Europe apart from France and not to the extent and bombast of the Russians. Remembrance or veteran’s day is far more important.
Runnin short on badass.
pretty weird last word neutralizimg the whole debate.
Cleptocrysy????are they from Sweden???sounds like a great name for a deathmetal band
Vladislav Davidson the college boy can use big words but makes no convincing conclusions.
Look at me I was in odessa
Look at me I met Zelensky
Let me guess, you never seen a college on the inside and jealousy is eating you from inside out
Weren’t there other countries beside Russia that fought and defeated Nazis in WWII? It’s important history lesson for current and next generations that this May Victory in Europe Day be co-celebrated by all who fought. The Allies of Russia joyously met with them at the Oder. These images of mutuality, coordination, and teamwork represent the great struggle that was WW2. Make sure Western commemoration meets Eastern commeration; this day shouldn’t be revisionist. Later events are later.
Why doesn’t countries who were in allied side also celebrate it
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We all love you in our heart. We think of you all.❤❤❤❤❤❤
Maybe Putin's parents have lost a son in WWII; but not Putin himself who by far was not around at that time.
DO NOT give Putin too many thoughts and credit. The more attention you give him the more important he becomes. Ignore him!
Not possible right now
🤣🤣 Ignore him. He's literally threatening to kill millions of people with his weapons !...Ignore him 👍🤣
The atomic number (Z) represents, in chemistry and physics, the number of protons in an atom.
I have been to a parade. It was in lithuania port city Klaipėda. We were parading russian tanks out of our country. Was a great parade.
I love millitary parade 👍
Re-order and decide, bye
Bringing a people together over a military parade? I think they could come up with something else couldn't they?
Here are the politicians and businessmen in Germany co-responsible for the war in Ukraine: Gerhard Schröder, Angela Merckel, Frank-Walter Steinmeier, Joe Kaeser, Wolfgang Reitzle, Matthias Platzeck, Georg Restle, Friedrich Merz, Jürgen Habermas, Manuela Schwesig.
They wont have many tanks in the parade mind.
Yeah his brothers. It's in his family heritage
How I wish the countries of Western Europe had the courage to send weapons to the Ukrainians to wreck the same devastation on Russian soil that the Russians are doing in Ukraine.
Don't worry after Russia takes Eastern Ukraine Europe will have Western Ukraine full of Nazis to take care of. And then Europe will need all those weapons to protect Europe from those Nazis
Ukraine is better than that. they wish not to be on russia soil as building that country would bankrupt them.
Russia is now bankrupting it self.
@@TheWatcher740 If Ukraine can defeat the Russian army that is exactly what will happen, if not they have to sign some sort of peace agreement with Russia and a non-pact (EU or NATO) will be part of it.
As counter productive as that would be , it’s definitely something that mss as my would love to see happen
Russia deserves to be freed