Film Theory: Batman's Three JOKER Theory pt. 1 (Suicide Squad)

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    Recently, DC Comics revealed that the Joker is actually THREE different people. It was a HUGE deal for the comics, but the question I have is whether that can also apply to the movies... And now, with the release of Suicide Squad, how does Jared Leto's Joker fit in to the mix? As the fourth live action Joker, is Suicide Squad's Joker a brand new entity or is he simply the continuation of one of the past Jokers we've seen before? Today on Film Theory, I'm tackling one of comic's age old questions 'who is THE JOKER?
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  • @FilmTheory
    @FilmTheory  Před 7 lety +2550

    To everyone upset about all the two-parters:
    Any time a video's script is over five pages long (which ends up being a video 22+ minutes), it becomes a two-parter so that I have the time to cover everything necessary while protecting the sanity of the editors and ensuring that I get an episode out on a regular basis.
    In this case, since so much of the theory hinges on a history of comics, I needed to take a lot of time up front to ensure everyone was on the same page regarding the evolution of the Joker.
    *I'm just trying to do the theories justice by being as thorough as possible. And with franchises like this, there's A LOT to cover!*

    • @galaxygamerbroficial
      @galaxygamerbroficial Před 7 lety +28

      You should have used "BatPat" in the intro.

    • @carson2709
      @carson2709 Před 7 lety +17

      Hey mattpat when does The comic Theorist come out? I think that would be interesting.

    • @ihlly6889
      @ihlly6889 Před 7 lety +21

      Sanity is overrated! Seriously though, do what you think is best, it's your channel after all

    • @jeebs621
      @jeebs621 Před 7 lety

      Yo yo yo

    • @explosiveentertainment6178
      @explosiveentertainment6178 Před 7 lety +2

      Nice theory matpat. Keep it up!

  • @meap6474
    @meap6474 Před 4 lety +2593

    MatPat: Four live action Jokers!
    2019: *there is another*

    • @LumiNyte
      @LumiNyte Před 4 lety +17

      Yes

    • @JoeMama._.
      @JoeMama._. Před 4 lety +50

      One of the best.

    • @getsomementalhelp8090
      @getsomementalhelp8090 Před 4 lety +57

      **laughs in future**

    • @thenerdterminatortnt8466
      @thenerdterminatortnt8466 Před 4 lety +35

      I have a theory about that, since we can’t bring heath ledger and ceaser Romero back from the dead and Jared Leto is the gold jack nicholsin I assume that the new joker 2019 is suppose to be heath ledger and they’re gonna probably make a silver age one ceaser Romero replacement where he’s less violent and uses the most ridicules weapons like the comics so then we have gold silver and bronze that’s my theory the 3 jokers we just need our third one and if we do get another joker then my theory is valid

    • @Asskickingclown
      @Asskickingclown Před 4 lety +3

      Isnt this the past

  • @Kharmatos13
    @Kharmatos13 Před 2 lety +316

    I like the "The Joker is an Idea, like a virus." concept. The Joker can be anyone or no one and even Batman can become the Joker.

  • @aavikrupa
    @aavikrupa Před 3 lety +654

    I'm here after the Batman: Three Jokers comics

    • @boejiden4190
      @boejiden4190 Před 3 lety +37

      It was so fantastic though. Im so excited for issues 2 and 3!
      UPDATE: Issue 2 was lit, and I can't wait for issue 3

    • @mroffline7031
      @mroffline7031 Před 3 lety +6

      Same

    • @kobyhubbard6602
      @kobyhubbard6602 Před 3 lety +3

      Same and the second issue is in

    • @angelcraig6754
      @angelcraig6754 Před 3 lety

      Same

    • @juanm.3840
      @juanm.3840 Před 3 lety +1

      I like Joker but I hate Geoff John HE RUINED SUICIDE SQUAD AND JUSTICE LEAGUE but THERE'S A ZNYDER CUT AND AYER CUT

  • @Dragonmist19X
    @Dragonmist19X Před 7 lety +1539

    Matpat? More like Mat....
    Find out the rest of the answer in part 2.

    • @Nots0go0dgam3r
      @Nots0go0dgam3r Před 7 lety +20

      He's getting copyright strikes on videos over 15 minutes, he's trying to fix it

    • @Nots0go0dgam3r
      @Nots0go0dgam3r Před 7 lety +1

      He's getting copyright strikes on videos over 15 minutes, he's trying to fix it

    • @KeitaroTsurugi
      @KeitaroTsurugi Před 7 lety +9

      No excuse, he surely can upload multiple videos.

    • @Nots0go0dgam3r
      @Nots0go0dgam3r Před 7 lety

      You keep hating if you want. Not my problem.

    • @KeitaroTsurugi
      @KeitaroTsurugi Před 7 lety +3

      Not hate, dislike, also, if its not your problem, then why do you even add to the conversation?

  • @lincolnb.3158
    @lincolnb.3158 Před 5 lety +2318

    "So I'm fairly optimistic"
    dang it matpat you jinxed the entire suicide squad movie

    • @jsgaming1290
      @jsgaming1290 Před 5 lety +29

      It feels like I'm only one who liked ALL of the DCEU movies

    • @thekiaracooper
      @thekiaracooper Před 5 lety +43

      yes, you are

    • @zoziezay2400
      @zoziezay2400 Před 5 lety +18

      I liked seeing suicide squad though..

    • @valeriaferrari9737
      @valeriaferrari9737 Před 4 lety +13

      @@jsgaming1290 you're not lol, I enjoyed them all too

    • @drats1009
      @drats1009 Před 4 lety +3

      @@jsgaming1290 I know someone who does too.

  • @drdino2002
    @drdino2002 Před 3 lety +234

    8:28 or as the comics would put it "the clown, the comedian and the criminal."

    • @jakson6109
      @jakson6109 Před 3 lety +8

      @The Eyes Of A True Demon he was good in Zack Snyders Justice League

    • @joshpensyl997
      @joshpensyl997 Před 3 lety +1

      This is weird

    • @SejfTrix
      @SejfTrix Před 2 lety +4

      a clown is a person who tries to make people laugh, and who tries to make people? golden age joker: jack nicholson, jared leto
      the comedian/failed comedian is the killing joke joker who took place in the bronze age: joaquin pheonix, heath ledger
      the silver age joker as stated by matpat was just a criminal no big schemes or plots or laughing gas just criminal: caesar romero

  • @focalpoint._
    @focalpoint._ Před 4 lety +575

    Look at Mat, being so optimistic about Jared Leto's "Joker"
    *_Har har har har_*

    • @mexicanbatman8157
      @mexicanbatman8157 Před 4 lety +8

      Jared Leto an't joker

    • @jev8665
      @jev8665 Před 4 lety +1

      Dude your literally the 6th comment that i was gonna like but was on 69 likes

    • @josephiles5793
      @josephiles5793 Před 3 lety +10

      Im here after Leto was pretty cool in the snyder cut

    • @jakson6109
      @jakson6109 Před 3 lety +1

      @@josephiles5793 same

    • @jakson6109
      @jakson6109 Před 3 lety +3

      @@mexicanbatman8157 kindly shut up until after you have watched the snyder cut

  • @Gloobly
    @Gloobly Před 7 lety +922

    He should have said batpat in the beginning

  • @roxanneabad22
    @roxanneabad22 Před 5 lety +855

    1. Jack Napier - Fell into chemicals
    2. Arthur Fleck - Makeup
    3. Jerimiah Valeska - Got sprayed by laughing gas
    4.Jerome Valeska - Face got cut off

    • @ralvarez0315
      @ralvarez0315 Před 5 lety +13

      The new joker movie coming out that’s his name

    • @ngrjordi2352
      @ngrjordi2352 Před 5 lety +46

      @san amazing way wait, Arthur Fleck=A.Fleck=Affleck? is this a coincidental?

    • @gastersdaughter2069
      @gastersdaughter2069 Před 5 lety +16

      Jerome and Jeremiah are my crazy little children.
      She really got me with a zinger in the end.

    • @ngrjordi2352
      @ngrjordi2352 Před 5 lety +2

      @san amazing way Joker in the Joker movie

    • @ngrjordi2352
      @ngrjordi2352 Před 5 lety +1

      @san amazing way maybe Arthur is another initial just like Jack

  • @someperson4773
    @someperson4773 Před 4 lety +293

    2019 so now there is an actual new joker movie

    • @thenerdterminatortnt8466
      @thenerdterminatortnt8466 Před 4 lety +9

      I have a theory that adds to this but with Joaquin pheonix’s joker , since we can’t bring heath ledger and ceaser Romero back from the dead and Jared Leto is the gold jack nicholsin I assume that the new joker 2019 is suppose to be heath ledger and they’re gonna probably make a silver age one ceaser Romero replacement where he’s less violent and uses the most ridicules weapons like the comics so then we have gold silver and bronze that’s my theory the 3 jokers we just need our third silver aged one and if we do get another joker then my theory is valid

    • @nevermind546
      @nevermind546 Před 4 lety +2

      He seems like the bronze age

    • @CarlosPerez-hf9rp
      @CarlosPerez-hf9rp Před 3 lety +1

      @@thenerdterminatortnt8466 i know this was month ago but I was rewatching this and was thinking which joker was Phoenix and was thinking it was heath ledger joker because of his metal instabilitys

    • @notaneboy
      @notaneboy Před 3 lety

      @@thenerdterminatortnt8466 copy paster

    • @mandeepsingh-jx1ic
      @mandeepsingh-jx1ic Před 3 lety

      he is a reboot of the heath ledgers joker

  • @drlakshanasharma3862
    @drlakshanasharma3862 Před 5 lety +959

    Anyone here after watching the 2019 Joker teaser trailer

  • @momomohoho3683
    @momomohoho3683 Před 7 lety +244

    I just realized something.
    Batman gains access to the chair that can give him the answer to the meaning of life
    in issue number forty-two.

  • @T3AR_HD
    @T3AR_HD Před 7 lety +660

    You know I scrolled down to the comment section to see what people thought about the theory, but I was greeted with a storm of people showing off how childish they were. I'm sorry matpat has to deal with this kind of stuff...I hope he ends videos telling all you complainers to shut your stupid traps about that part two stuff, honestly it's his and the editors show and they're allowed to do whatever they want with it. that includes doing 2 parters for the sanity of them all, it saddens me to see "loyal" theorists acting like spoiled brats because they have to wait a couple days. honestly dissapointing, hope you guys keep up the good work and run these complainers out of here. LOVE YOU MATHEW PATHEW

    • @FilmTheory
      @FilmTheory  Před 7 lety +59

      Thanks for understanding! It takes a lot of work to put these together, and for the sanity of the editors, anything over 5 pages becomes really rough for them to handle. Plus, I know from the data that people don't watch the full episodes when they're over 20-ish minutes, so I try to keep them to the right length for people to enjoy the WHOLE thing! 😀

    • @devangomez1452
      @devangomez1452 Před 7 lety

      +The Film Theorists hey when will you make doctor who theory part 3,just asking

    • @bendavidson3793
      @bendavidson3793 Před 7 lety

      hey look at my theory

    • @Egonsraad
      @Egonsraad Před 7 lety

      I know right

    • @johnnyfive222
      @johnnyfive222 Před 7 lety

      Agreed I was so disappointed I mean it's not like he does two parts all the time.

  • @clubedanarrativa5603
    @clubedanarrativa5603 Před 4 lety +54

    MatPat: So, we got 4 Live-Actions Jokers!
    Arthur Fleck: *A NEW PLAYER HAS ARRIVED*

  • @redtomato3943
    @redtomato3943 Před 2 lety +23

    I love the three jokers storyline and it's really fun to go back and see matpat essentially guess the whole trope

    • @handgun559
      @handgun559 Před rokem +1

      I can't believe this channel is even 6 years old. None the less the theory.

  • @Joyful_Knight
    @Joyful_Knight Před 7 lety +4317

    Am I the only one who thought that MatPat should have been BatPat....

  • @jonasvanduren6393
    @jonasvanduren6393 Před 7 lety +762

    He should get a pet bat and call it batpat

  • @AmonHa01
    @AmonHa01 Před 5 lety +67

    Man, if Suicide Squad have follow your theory, maybe the execution could be better...

  • @dragonfanfromroblox3313
    @dragonfanfromroblox3313 Před 4 lety +131

    *joker 2019 trailer comes out*
    Me : 4 Jokers?

    • @thenerdterminatortnt8466
      @thenerdterminatortnt8466 Před 4 lety +4

      I have a theory that adds to this but with Joaquin pheonix’s joker , since we can’t bring heath ledger and ceaser Romero back from the dead and Jared Leto is the gold jack nicholsin I assume that the new joker 2019 is suppose to be heath ledger and they’re gonna probably make a silver age one ceaser Romero replacement where he’s less violent and uses the most ridicules weapons like the comics so then we have gold silver and bronze that’s my theory the 3 jokers we just need our third silver aged one and if we do get another joker then my theory is valid

    • @TeenageStudentNinjaKid
      @TeenageStudentNinjaKid Před 4 lety +2

      Joker 2019 isnt part of the dceu so its not part of any of this its its own universe

    • @MEDIAARTSPROD
      @MEDIAARTSPROD Před 3 lety

      5 jokers since we have cameron monaghon

    • @muhammadsyafiqdzafri138
      @muhammadsyafiqdzafri138 Před 3 lety

      Yes it’s still 4 jokers cause jared aint joker

    • @MEDIAARTSPROD
      @MEDIAARTSPROD Před 3 lety

      @@muhammadsyafiqdzafri138 but cameron is

  • @comically_large_chungus
    @comically_large_chungus Před 7 lety +166

    Jared Leto's Joker isn't even a main part of the movie. He's a subplot for Harley Quinn.

    • @ChickenEliminator
      @ChickenEliminator Před 7 lety +3

      Ikr

    • @rachelcochrane3829
      @rachelcochrane3829 Před 7 lety

      Exactly

    • @MrBioPython
      @MrBioPython Před 7 lety +15

      what's wrong with that. it's a suicide squad movie not a joker movie. I'm glad that he wasn't forced into the movie too much

    • @comically_large_chungus
      @comically_large_chungus Před 7 lety +1

      +TRAP-0-ZOID The trailers were misleading cuz they showed Joker a lot and they didn't show Enchantress was the villain.

    • @notevenreal3368
      @notevenreal3368 Před 7 lety

      +JujuBossHD they cut alot from the trailers out.

  • @ZakJames
    @ZakJames Před 7 lety +299

    Did I just watch a twelve minute setup for a CZcams video I can't watch until next week?

  • @anasabusuleiman5961
    @anasabusuleiman5961 Před 4 lety +51

    Jared leto’s joker: I AM BATMAN

  • @Spider_Gary_Edits1
    @Spider_Gary_Edits1 Před rokem +7

    6 years later this episode is still one of my favourites throughout film theory

  • @agenericyoutubeaccount
    @agenericyoutubeaccount Před 7 lety +250

    I think we can all agree this intro would be better with BatPat.

  • @crazyj1578
    @crazyj1578 Před 7 lety +292

    best intro batman theme 10/10 IMDB, 7.8/10 IGN

    • @Dycewyfe
      @Dycewyfe Před 7 lety +7

      7.8/10 - IGN : Too much Batman

    • @SuperMJ1337
      @SuperMJ1337 Před 7 lety

      Yes I agree

    • @levii_7o
      @levii_7o Před 7 lety +2

      "too much dadada"

    • @Faillord1
      @Faillord1 Před 7 lety +1

      Well missed the opportunity to call himself Patman 7.8/10 too much Mat

    • @cesarjulca7748
      @cesarjulca7748 Před 7 lety +4

      7.8/10 IGN - Will bat again

  • @morganattrill6222
    @morganattrill6222 Před 4 lety +143

    The dc universe will never be the same without Cristian bale and Heath ledger 😢

    • @brgan557
      @brgan557 Před 4 lety +3

      What did they die

    • @ilovesparky13
      @ilovesparky13 Před 4 lety +13

      Angel Ma Yes, Heath Ledger died years ago.

    • @brgan557
      @brgan557 Před 4 lety +5

      @@ilovesparky13 RIP

    • @Salena905
      @Salena905 Před 4 lety +2

      @Morgan._.Attrill. I agree with you there, I love both Christian's Batman and Heath's Joker the best, they just play those characters SO well. When you see both characters together they are so believable. Although I do like the new justice league gang though too as Ben Affleck's version seems to go well with the new league characters and I will check out the new Joker film too as I see all of the newer ones as just a different version, or even another reality really.

    • @danielfisk855
      @danielfisk855 Před 4 lety +1

      Without Ledger, anyway. Bale was probably the 3rd worst incarnation of Batman in film. Yes, I know; the movies were good, but it's not really Batman making them good; the movies were good because of setup and direction. Bale is lifeless, wooden, and unbelievable.

  • @daiyankhan6502
    @daiyankhan6502 Před 3 lety +49

    Anyone here after DC literally just published "Three Jokers"?

  • @Abi_Wee
    @Abi_Wee Před 7 lety +299

    Lol the Wikipedia chair

  • @giggityking6505
    @giggityking6505 Před 7 lety +473

    *Maybe you should make a theory on how aerodynamic Dumbo's ears are*

    • @mothymcspook2299
      @mothymcspook2299 Před 7 lety +1

      YES!

    • @MrDanaje9
      @MrDanaje9 Před 7 lety +2

      that would be good

    • @ScatLuigi
      @ScatLuigi Před 7 lety +1

      Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeees

    • @giggityking6505
      @giggityking6505 Před 7 lety +6

      Some stupid memelord named CraZ Just like Chun-li, but instead of helicopter physics, he'll use airplane physics.

    • @Trithis2077
      @Trithis2077 Před 7 lety +3

      Give this man a cookie.

  • @corona7801
    @corona7801 Před 4 lety +13

    Cesar Romero Joker - Prankster
    Jack Nicholson Joker - Mobster
    Heath Ledger Joker - Anarchist
    Jared Leto Joker - Gangster
    Joaquin Phoenix Joker - Physco
    Monoghan Jerome Valeska - Killer
    Monoghan Jerimah Valeska - Nerd

  • @melodymatthews6173
    @melodymatthews6173 Před 4 lety +53

    MatPats teachers: MatPat, what do you want to be when you grow up
    Young MatPat: I want to ruin people’s childhood and confuse the heck out of people and be right all the time!
    Teacher:.......

  • @trolleymouse
    @trolleymouse Před 7 lety +230

    Notice how there's actually none of the theory in this episode.
    There's nothing in here. He's cheated you. He's cheated all of you and you didn't even notice.

    • @alisethera9349
      @alisethera9349 Před 7 lety

      is that a reference to something?

    • @notyetrain
      @notyetrain Před 7 lety +5

      +Blueconroy Yes. Jontron's Birdemic review.

    • @Xskills16
      @Xskills16 Před 7 lety

      Why do feel like that's intentional and part of the video (FYI I just saw Suicide Squad)?

    • @dakotaflynn9576
      @dakotaflynn9576 Před 7 lety

      You must have lead up, make everyone know the backstory first. XD

    • @matthewriachi5415
      @matthewriachi5415 Před 7 lety +4

      But he needs to know what the personalities of em are so he can link them to the movies so then we can link it to the new joker

  • @fffighter4
    @fffighter4 Před 7 lety +152

    "I don't like doing cliffhangers." Pointing out your problems doesn't fix them.

  • @Swiper426
    @Swiper426 Před 5 lety +23

    1:59 GOD DAMN IT STAN LEE
    (Edit): Wait Thanos come here.
    Thanos: ok.
    Me: did you just give DC your chair!?!?!?
    Thanos:N-no w-why do y-you ask?
    Me: Just take a look

  • @musyrifo
    @musyrifo Před 3 lety +13

    And DC published the Batman: Three Jokers comic. Woo, I cant wait!

  • @moragsharf3572
    @moragsharf3572 Před 7 lety +2614

    it's been 11 days, still not part 2, MatPat is probably dead or out of diet Coke

  • @JoeRepp
    @JoeRepp Před 7 lety +341

    MATPAT YOU NEED TO STOP DOING CLIFFHANGERS ITS GETTING REALLY FREAKING ANNOYING

    • @mrmackellar3337
      @mrmackellar3337 Před 7 lety +4

      The only reason he's doing cliffhangers is because the theories are tiring him out

    • @GuerrillaGorilla023
      @GuerrillaGorilla023 Před 7 lety +4

      He puts hours on hours of work into these videos, either we get them in parts or we're going to get one giant half hour video for which he'll probably get less views than if he were to release them the way he is doing now.

    • @butterknife3045
      @butterknife3045 Před 7 lety +1

      Bitch then get off his channel

    • @alboateng
      @alboateng Před 7 lety +3

      Amen. Yeah how is this one man, and a few editors supposed to keep on top of multiple discussions, making theories, and most important, 2 very successful channels. We all hate when their are cliffhangers in his videos and other people's videos too but these people are not machines, they are humans and they will not certainly stop these "cliffhangers" because people in the comments scream about it.

    • @RaulDiaz-mp8ms
      @RaulDiaz-mp8ms Před 7 lety +1

      +Guerrilla Gorilla Hahahahahaha...oh wait you were serious. Let me laugh louder, BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

  • @firearms6009
    @firearms6009 Před 5 lety +29

    2019:ANOTHER JOKER.....
    DAGNAMMIT

    • @LumiNyte
      @LumiNyte Před 4 lety

      *_DAGNAMMIT_*

    • @thenerdterminatortnt8466
      @thenerdterminatortnt8466 Před 4 lety

      I have a theory that adds to this but with Joaquin pheonix’s joker , since we can’t bring heath ledger and ceaser Romero back from the dead and Jared Leto is the gold jack nicholsin I assume that the new joker 2019 is suppose to be heath ledger and they’re gonna probably make a silver age one ceaser Romero replacement where he’s less violent and uses the most ridicules weapons like the comics so then we have gold silver and bronze that’s my theory the 3 jokers we just need our third silver aged one and if we do get another joker then my theory is valid so you might wanna hold back your dagnabid

  • @eliholden60
    @eliholden60 Před 4 lety +24

    "I'm fairly optimistic" we were so young back them

  • @daismoos
    @daismoos Před 6 lety +225

    The dark night joker was my favourite

    • @TrentM03
      @TrentM03 Před 5 lety +1

      Same. Hamill is my second favorite.

    • @kingzeus9532
      @kingzeus9532 Před 5 lety

      Same

    • @redguy8
      @redguy8 Před 5 lety +7

      Heath ledger was my favourite too he is the true joker no one will ever be better than him.

    • @admiralaralani9878
      @admiralaralani9878 Před 5 lety +2

      Panic! at the twenty øne brides your username makes me happy

    • @dominikamimari427
      @dominikamimari427 Před 5 lety

      Hell yea

  • @grimmitachi
    @grimmitachi Před 7 lety +248

    If these 3 Joker's are not held together by the multiverse idea then are they aware of each other's existence?

    • @brandon5872
      @brandon5872 Před 7 lety +26

      That quite interesting.

    • @dakotagau
      @dakotagau Před 7 lety +68

      They didn't exist at the same time.
      Once one died, a copycat happened.
      And then some bumbling psychopath becomes obsessed with this once incidious criminal and goes so far to belive he is that criminal.
      Batman just never noticed because the joker always died when batman wasn't around.

    • @micahdc1549
      @micahdc1549 Před 7 lety

      good question

    • @dracothegreat1950
      @dracothegreat1950 Před 7 lety

      How would he test their DNA?

    • @pinkgoergefloyd8340
      @pinkgoergefloyd8340 Před 7 lety

      Matpat is forgetting, it's a new universe of DC, SO

  • @tinytoink
    @tinytoink Před 5 lety +45

    Me: looks at golden age joker, ok. Looks at silver age joker you freeking suck. Looks at bronze age joker YES

  • @frenchtoastman5822
    @frenchtoastman5822 Před 4 lety +19

    Who is Joaquin Phoenix’s Joker?

  • @tatesydney1224
    @tatesydney1224 Před 7 lety +129

    NEXT WEEK??? THE MOVIE WILL ALREADY BE OUT BY THEN!

    • @gamingmilk829
      @gamingmilk829 Před 7 lety +7

      Kinda the point.

    • @tatesydney1224
      @tatesydney1224 Před 7 lety +6

      Gaming Milk lol i see that now, i'm so dumb. i just want the second part right now!!!

    • @xtingwisher
      @xtingwisher Před 7 lety

      IKR! I'm so fucking excited whenever MatPat makes a video on one of my favorite characters and The joker is very high on that list

    • @melaniebarber9191
      @melaniebarber9191 Před 7 lety

      +Tate Camp ikr

    • @Cosmic_Corpse22
      @Cosmic_Corpse22 Před 7 lety +3

      Thats the point. Cant do a theory on a joker you havent watched yet.

  • @AndreggvilJammer
    @AndreggvilJammer Před 7 lety +53

    As a huge Batman nerd who had spent a long time pondering about the possibility of three Jokers and whether it was even a reasonable revelation, I'm so glad that you, MatPat, covered it and explained it. You're a blessing, seriously.

    • @loganshaw5
      @loganshaw5 Před 2 lety +1

      Who could play the clown/ pranker version of the joker now?

  • @garettjohnson6086
    @garettjohnson6086 Před 3 lety +2

    I may have been born WAY after that theme song but I have seen a couple of episodes from. Back than and it IMMEDIATELY pit a smile on my face!

  • @tarangatan8119
    @tarangatan8119 Před 3 lety +7

    Im here after the released the 3 jokers comic

  • @TheEternalVanguard
    @TheEternalVanguard Před 7 lety +525

    I can't believe that you missed the opportunity to call yourself "BatPat" in the intro :S

  • @rubixcube460
    @rubixcube460 Před 7 lety +120

    Hey Matpat. I had an interesting idea for a theory. It revolves around the universe of Avatar (both the last airbender and legend of korra). Not the characters themselves, but the physics around them. If you're familiar with the series, you'll know that certain people of each nation have the power to bend one of the 4 elements: Fire, Water, Earth and Air. Certain users of these elements can bend other elements which correspond with their own element. For example; Water benders can become blood benders, earth benders can become metal or lava benders, ETC. But my theory revolves around fire benders. Now certain fire benders can wield lightning and some can even create explosions. But what if there's no such thing as a fire bender, but an energy bender!? Now I know that in AtLoK Korra can bend pure energy in the avatar state, but that's not what I'm getting at. I'm talking about heat or light energy. Now for fire to exist, there has to be three substances available: Heat, Oxygen, and a fuel. Now fire benders probably don't produce all three of these things. They wouldn't produce oxygen just to burn it instantly. So obviously, the oxygen is all around them. And in the avatar universe, fire bending is the only element without substance, but it comes from the "chii" within the body. My guess is that the chii supplies the fuel for the fire. It's worth noting that all people have chii in the avatar universe, not just elemental benders. But the only thing left is heat, and that's where the fire bender's abilities come into play. They don't create fire on the spot, but rather produce heat and have the other elements of the substances needed to produce fire. But if they only produce heat, then how do they produce lightning and explosives? The answer is that they don't actually produce fire, nor heat, but energy. I've just went over how they produce heat energy. But It seems that some of them can produce electrical energy (to create lightning) and kinetic energy (to create explosives). But does the limit to their power and range of abilities stop there? If they could harness light energy, could they bend unstable laser beams!? If they could harness sound energy, could they create sonic booms!? Matpat, If you covered this topic, it would make me a really happy 14 year old boy who just covered different energies in chemistry last year! Please cover this as my fingers are almost sore from typing it! LOL! But either way, thank you for being awesome, making awesome content about video games and movies, and just generally being a great person. I hope you have a glorious day!

  • @Jupiter7873
    @Jupiter7873 Před 4 měsíci +3

    Well now in 2024 Batman 3 jokers came out and we know that there actually are 3 jokers the criminal, the comedian, and the clown

  • @theuniverseshow9699
    @theuniverseshow9699 Před 5 lety +10

    Where is my boys Jerome and Jeremiah / J?

  • @unclestan8712
    @unclestan8712 Před 7 lety +395

    OH SHIT HE ACKNOWLEDGED DOCTOR WHO PART 3! GUYS ITS COMING!

  • @LetsTalkAboutIt0109
    @LetsTalkAboutIt0109 Před 7 lety +176

    What's up with all these two part episodes within the last month? First Finding Dory, then DHMIS, than Pokemon Go, and now this?!? Why MatPat?! WHYYYYYYY

    • @kanyeeast341
      @kanyeeast341 Před 7 lety +26

      Money

    • @wajihbec1087
      @wajihbec1087 Před 7 lety +7

      can't really blame him

    • @LetsTalkAboutIt0109
      @LetsTalkAboutIt0109 Před 7 lety +1

      Wajih bec I'm not really blaming him but he rarely did 2 part vids before and this last month has just been non stop 2 parts

    • @clevergoblin1714
      @clevergoblin1714 Před 7 lety +1

      more ad revenue

    • @thearrow4203
      @thearrow4203 Před 7 lety +11

      well this one make since...he needs to see Suicide Squad first and gather more info.

  • @pikanique
    @pikanique Před 4 lety +6

    It would be really cool if they worked the three different jokers into the story more where even Harley Quinn didnt know, and used that edge to more thoroughly explain Harley and Jokers rollercoaster type relationship

  • @rangedweevil6150
    @rangedweevil6150 Před 4 lety +7

    When I was a kid my brother had a compilation of Bob Kane's Bat man, the actual originals, and I loved the original Joker. The Golden age Joker who was a criminal master mind. I specifically remember this series where Joker broke out of prison and uses some series of symbols to communicate his plan to hijack a movie set, rob a museum of a clock or a collection of police badges or something. Point was that he was insanely smart and a serial killer. He placed TNT on the Clapper of a bell so that when it rolled, the tower would explode and drop debris onto the civilians below.

  • @sethblaster
    @sethblaster Před 7 lety +433

    Welcome to a week later, still no part 2...

    • @megamanmaster296
      @megamanmaster296 Před 7 lety +2

      He didn't say EXACTLY a week later, jerk

    • @sethblaster
      @sethblaster Před 7 lety +12

      ... ok, I guess not, but still I want to see the conclusion :P

    • @cobybfilms7248
      @cobybfilms7248 Před 7 lety +4

      Yeah me too man. Me too.

    • @Feinex973
      @Feinex973 Před 7 lety +2

      +Lets Talk About Things I thought he somehow mentioned all of this 2parters was part of us waiting lesser for the next episode. Which is not the case now

    • @BrookNBones
      @BrookNBones Před 7 lety +3

      +Seth Blaster like us doctor who fans wanted part 3 months ago? don't hold your breath.

  • @awhochen1563
    @awhochen1563 Před 7 lety +223

    Jared Leto's Joker is the Mastermind.
    He doesn't play as the Prankster. He is not a anarchist like the Psychopath. He has a crew and manipulates the corrupt.

    • @sqballers
      @sqballers Před 7 lety +15

      how the hell did you analyze all that from him just being in 10 min of the movie

    • @awhochen1563
      @awhochen1563 Před 7 lety +26

      sshaz Qad​ He kills. Prankster jokes, not kills. He has plans. He finds and corrupts the Belle Reve guard. Comes up with a coordinated plan to rescue Harley. Psychopath wouldn't deal with something that complicated (since he also managed to obtain a device to deactivate the neck bombs which the security guard couldn't have had).

    • @sqballers
      @sqballers Před 7 lety +8

      +Awho Chen I wouldn't consider him anything close to a mastermind though. He didn't corrupt the Belle Reve guard, the guard was already corrupted. He gambled and abused inmates. The joker only used the fear of death to force him to be on his side. Jared leto's joker was a complete disappointment, he served minimal function in the movie and some how survived a helicopter crash without explanation. The dam helicopter blew up yet he came out unscathed.

    • @awhochen1563
      @awhochen1563 Před 7 lety +8

      sshaz Qad He still used the resources he obtained as a mob/gang boss to contact said guard and obtain a defusing device. He obtained a spec ops chopper and a number of professionals to break into Belle Reve. That's a plan.
      Another way to see it is through elimination. He is must definitely not the Prankster. And if he isn't the Mastermind then he is a controlled Psychopath (which doesn't make sense).
      I'm not making this comment on the quality of his acting but on the idea of which type of Joker the Leto Joker is.

    • @nafisdm
      @nafisdm Před 7 lety +17

      +sshaz Qad c'mon now how many times have we seen the Joker survive death stricken situations in the comics🤔 and remember the movie is titled Suicidé Squad, not The Joker, the only reason he was in the movie was to show why Harley Quinn was the way she was and give her back story, so we're lucky to see the Joker in the first place. Wait until the stand alone Batman movie comes out and hope the Joker plays a major role.
      Also he's obviously a criminal mastermind. The criminal mastermind Joker was still crazy, but not a unstable lunatic like Heath Ledger and the New 52 comics. A controlled psycho doesn't make sense💯

  • @HugoGonzalez-vt3kc
    @HugoGonzalez-vt3kc Před 3 lety +6

    Anyone here after the 3 jokers comic?

  • @kennymccormick9497
    @kennymccormick9497 Před 3 lety +7

    It’s theorized that Jared’s Joker, is really Jason Todd, (The second Robin) after being kidnapped, tortured, and brainwashed by the real Joker. Of course though, in the movie Batman Beyond: Joker returns, and Batman the animated series season 4, the creators switched names between Jason Todd and Tim Drake (The third Robin.) I honestly have NO idea why they did that, they got everything right except for the name change. Maybe they were just trying to be creative 🤷‍♂️

  • @marwan5319
    @marwan5319 Před 7 lety +280

    Wanna here a joke?
    Superman

  • @Missiletainn
    @Missiletainn Před 7 lety +256

    Remember when Matpat's theory's were over 20 minutes

  • @handgun559
    @handgun559 Před rokem +1

    I mean, he was basically right about the three types of jokers, and he even said there names at certain points, just never all together. The three jokers were the Criminal, the Comedian, and the Clown.

  • @travisithink105
    @travisithink105 Před 4 lety +5

    This man is so dedicated in so many ways

  • @devramachandran401
    @devramachandran401 Před 7 lety +92

    The comic book theorist?
    I want this channel to exist immediately, and it has to be hosted by matpat

  • @jihef03
    @jihef03 Před 7 lety +310

    *_"What is Jared Leto's Joker?!?!!"_*
    A very cringeworthy performance.

    • @andrewthomas7766
      @andrewthomas7766 Před 7 lety +1

      HA!

    • @TheBHNetwork
      @TheBHNetwork Před 7 lety +14

      Not really, if you look a professional reviews most of them praise Leto.

    • @VintageLJ
      @VintageLJ Před 7 lety +12

      Yes, not because he was good, but because it was so bad it was funny.

    • @addo1001
      @addo1001 Před 7 lety

      thank you! THANK YOU SIR!!!! you completely described everthing he did (onset and off) in one sentence

    • @Pemj2k
      @Pemj2k Před 7 lety +6

      I tried to give him a chance, but I wasn't feeling it. Margot Robbie did more justice to Harley Quinn in my opinion.

  • @superduperloopyoofer7618
    @superduperloopyoofer7618 Před 5 lety +18

    Mat Pat researching: Who is the joker
    Me: that's not the question.
    Me: the question is WHY did he choose to be evil instead of getting a job

    • @thychickenman2844
      @thychickenman2844 Před 5 lety +2

      Cuz he needed a whole load of money and he didnt go to collage bc he wanted to be in the villan life, also when he was in the acid it messed up his head, like how it messed up Harley Quinn, she was in love but wasnt that crazy about it, and now look at her

    • @kattlol7984
      @kattlol7984 Před 4 lety

      I think it’s because he thought life would get too boring that’s the only reason why I would...

    • @pjdianalan7934
      @pjdianalan7934 Před 3 lety

      There are three different origin stories for Joker, as he wants it to be "multiple choice".

  • @perikala.rahulpriyadarsana2452

    Was Jerome velaska, Jeremiah are Mr. J no 1&2 respectively according to Gotham

  • @yurriaanvanduyn
    @yurriaanvanduyn Před 7 lety +127

    Mark Hamill is the best Joker ever.

    • @coolfirelazer4210
      @coolfirelazer4210 Před 7 lety +4

      He is good but heath levers joker is the best

    • @crescentmoon3764
      @crescentmoon3764 Před 7 lety +8

      +Coolfire Lazer No. Heath Ledger is amazing but Mark Hamil is the iconic Joker. The original crowned Prince of Crime.

    • @yurriaanvanduyn
      @yurriaanvanduyn Před 7 lety +6

      Coolfire only watched the Nolan trilogy...

    • @saphcal
      @saphcal Před 7 lety

      lol no

    • @saphcal
      @saphcal Před 7 lety

      my other comment was at coolfire btw.

  • @notwh9497
    @notwh9497 Před 6 lety +796

    I know what the joker's actual name is...
    Joe Kerr 😮

  • @Dipvide
    @Dipvide Před 3 lety +1

    My fav. Intro to anything I’ve ever seen in my life

  • @galactiicpup
    @galactiicpup Před 3 lety +1

    i came back to this video, everybody sleeps on Cameron Monaghan's twin Jokers in Gotham

  • @xx7956
    @xx7956 Před 7 lety +142

    Matpat should do a real life theory on who the zodiac killer is

    • @Rr-ji4vj
      @Rr-ji4vj Před 7 lety

      +Oscklen have you seen that too? Lol

    • @Sahantara
      @Sahantara Před 7 lety +15

      "Hello Internet, welcome to Life Theory!"

    • @ivanolivas9897
      @ivanolivas9897 Před 7 lety +2

      Ted Cruz

    • @tdawglifeofficial336
      @tdawglifeofficial336 Před 7 lety

      YESSSS! dude thats a great idea!

    • @MrDanno2
      @MrDanno2 Před 7 lety

      isn't Ted Cruise,come on i thought the internet figured this out :)

  • @VelmiArtrid
    @VelmiArtrid Před 7 lety +521

    I'm still waiting for that Dr. Who theory Matt Patt....
    *cocks gun*

  • @DarkSilverAngel1
    @DarkSilverAngel1 Před 4 lety +2

    As the newest Joker comes out, I’ve searched forever for this video because it explains so much!!

  • @xdxghostxdx2062
    @xdxghostxdx2062 Před 4 lety +13

    When u watch in 2019 and saw the joker 2019 trailer

  • @SkyeTsow
    @SkyeTsow Před 7 lety +165

    MatPat is becoming a sellout... He leaves us with a cliffhanger even though you can finish the theory in 5 mins. In fact he has been doing A LOT of part 2 theories that aren't even that complex...

    • @paulpott261
      @paulpott261 Před 7 lety +16

      Don't forget YT Red and how more recent Game Theories aren't as good as the ones from 2011-2013/2014

    • @KillerXTV
      @KillerXTV Před 7 lety +3

      Lol he was one when he dick rided fnaf

    • @luismaya1614
      @luismaya1614 Před 7 lety +2

      +The Bacon Overlord I agree that's why I rarely watch anymore

    • @Seth9809
      @Seth9809 Před 7 lety +5

      How would this be done in five minutes?

    • @oceanwater6887
      @oceanwater6887 Před 7 lety +19

      He just wants to be successful, like any other youtuber. And if that means jumping on the YT Red and cliffhanger bandwagon, that's what he'll do. Besides, his content is still very entertaining, and isn't that the sole reason why we watched the video? To be lost in MatPat's voice for 10 minutes?

  • @MarcosAmparo
    @MarcosAmparo Před 7 lety +125

    Suicide squad sounds like a group of people who save people from suicides.

    • @floridaman4473
      @floridaman4473 Před 7 lety +3

      I thought it was a group of people desperately trying to commit suicide. like the bosses from mgs2

    • @ooshipoo7633
      @ooshipoo7633 Před 7 lety

      (from what I've heard)Suicide Squad is a group of villains who are sent on a suicide mission(they won't return) to save the planet

    • @RadicalDan4
      @RadicalDan4 Před 7 lety

      that's my squad!!! and we go killing the ones that don't want to commit suicide

    • @cesarjulca7748
      @cesarjulca7748 Před 7 lety

      #WhoCares?

    • @Weeblicker
      @Weeblicker Před 7 lety +2

      no it sounds like a group of memepage owners that have nothing to live for

  • @DontfuckwithdaGunslinger420

    Your sense of humor is great. If I want to laugh a lot I watch your videos. But if I want to laugh and something a little darker I watch The Theorizer’s videos. You both are great

  • @faychel8383
    @faychel8383 Před 4 lety +1

    This was the most enjoyable cliff hanger ever. Probably helps part 2 is available immediately lol.

  • @fishybear3078
    @fishybear3078 Před 7 lety +132

    man Mat Pat you sure love your two part theories don't ya.

    • @KapnKasai
      @KapnKasai Před 7 lety

      he sure does, THE CLIFFHANGERS ARE EVERYWHERE!!!!

    • @martint1775
      @martint1775 Před 7 lety +6

      Views you know.

    • @HellsBells600
      @HellsBells600 Před 7 lety +3

      He said in a previous video that he does these two part videos because he doesn't want to wait any longer to get the video out for us, but there's also a lot of editing to do on the second half that needs to be done

    • @kellyyuan195
      @kellyyuan195 Před 7 lety +4

      +WeirdBells600 tbh, that's probably bullshit

    • @samoria7530
      @samoria7530 Před 7 lety +1

      he likes views.

  • @a.morphous66
    @a.morphous66 Před 6 lety +144

    Nananananananananananananananana BATPAT!

  • @holdensutton8612
    @holdensutton8612 Před 4 lety

    I love how you center things.

  • @kidinsomnia0304
    @kidinsomnia0304 Před 4 lety +13

    What About the 2019 joker that Means there ARE 4 jokers.

  • @lol_elias2518
    @lol_elias2518 Před 5 lety +112

    2019 joker fits in where, and i know you are seeing this.

    • @pink-a-palouza7888
      @pink-a-palouza7888 Před 4 lety +6

      3LIOSAURUS the psychopath but without batman

    • @someonecalledmaya9985
      @someonecalledmaya9985 Před 4 lety +6

      SPOILERS!!!!!! (kinda)
      probably the bronze age joker. He's a psychopath but deals with mental illness. The modern age joker is more "can't exist with Batman" "batman is the yin to his yang" but joker didn't have batman yet. Also the new movie is set in the 70s and the bronze age started in 1970 so it would fit nicely.

    • @budgiecat9039
      @budgiecat9039 Před 4 lety +2

      @@someonecalledmaya9985 so now that we have that established: I guess we have to throw Leto's Joker in as the criminal mastermind. Which then leaves us with the 'prankster' Joker slot still empty for this modern era of Joker storytelling post Nolan/Nicholson/Romero.
      Since Phoenix's Joker takes place in the year 1981, and Leto's is in 2016, I like to theorize that Phoenix's is the 'original Joker' locked away in Arkham Asylum, and at some point, Leto's character met up with him and got inspired and thus he became the 2nd Joker.

    • @LumiNyte
      @LumiNyte Před 4 lety

      Someone called Maya yep

    • @sorandomandquirky9425
      @sorandomandquirky9425 Před 4 lety

      The mentally ill ig

  • @tamsynmcgooy2922
    @tamsynmcgooy2922 Před 6 lety +443

    But..... what about LEGO Batman

    • @MrChiefReef
      @MrChiefReef Před 6 lety +12

      A very Intelligent hooman o

    • @anthon.harker
      @anthon.harker Před 5 lety +5

      Yes please

    • @philjohnson7349
      @philjohnson7349 Před 5 lety +6

      YES GOOD HOOMAN

    • @quack2757
      @quack2757 Před 5 lety +13

      The gay one-
      Sorry-
      I mean there was that one scene where he was like "I hate you-~"
      "I hate you too~" and they were really close to kissing soooooooo

    • @jenackslegers5369
      @jenackslegers5369 Před 5 lety +2

      Tamsyn Mcgooy prankster

  • @michaelyearwood6422
    @michaelyearwood6422 Před 3 lety +3

    According to the 3 joker comic you are correct

  • @alienigga
    @alienigga Před 10 měsíci

    The thing I love the most about these older theory videos.. has to be the intro music

  • @BigBangPinapple
    @BigBangPinapple Před 7 lety +134

    There was no math... now i feel empty :(

  • @alexpadilla6306
    @alexpadilla6306 Před 7 lety +106

    I think the newest joker is the pshycopath bc he says the lines, "I don't want to kill you I'm just gonna hurt really really badly!"

    • @alexpadilla6306
      @alexpadilla6306 Před 7 lety

      Who's with me?

    • @Rogorick
      @Rogorick Před 7 lety

      +Alex Nabbit I am

    • @xlxlxloo
      @xlxlxloo Před 7 lety

      +Alex Nabbit sure

    • @simJ94
      @simJ94 Před 7 lety +5

      no one

    • @GHow1998
      @GHow1998 Před 7 lety +2

      i agree, although it was revealed in an interview he was saying it to Harley Quinn

  • @Jejssjjdjs
    @Jejssjjdjs Před 4 lety +1

    i love this channel it has the answers to everything

  • @iceboi6922
    @iceboi6922 Před 4 lety +5

    Wait I just realized something about the three jokers there's joe chill, the one from the new movie and the one from the dark knight

  • @citricdolphin336
    @citricdolphin336 Před 7 lety +142

    I'm like 90% sure you accidentally gave away which joker it is in the thumbnail.

    • @cassie6056
      @cassie6056 Před 7 lety +5

      If he did that lol

    • @NeonPhlox
      @NeonPhlox Před 7 lety

      This video is about suicide squad, suicide squad was made In Bronze Age psycho joker

    • @Lesquidliestone
      @Lesquidliestone Před 7 lety

      I'm pretty sure Jared Leto's joker is not like Bronze Age's joker at all.

    • @GreatATheOne
      @GreatATheOne Před 7 lety

      to late for a spoiler alert

    • @fieryskullface123
      @fieryskullface123 Před 7 lety +16

      I think he's actually the golden age joker...because in the movie he is supposed to resemble a kind of syndicate leader and be a bit of a businessman rather than an unpredictable psycho...just my speculation

  • @senhorbolacha3336
    @senhorbolacha3336 Před 7 lety +106

    it's been 13 days, still no part 2, MatPat is probably dead or out of diet Coke, but he probably just got kidnapped

    • @manface6308
      @manface6308 Před 7 lety

      +Senhor Bolacha he should never have gone on the deep web...

    • @senhorbolacha3336
      @senhorbolacha3336 Před 7 lety

      NicoColaGaming he got kidnapped by a russian csgo player

    • @m3rctheshark465
      @m3rctheshark465 Před 7 lety

      +Senhor Bolacha mat pat is the next marina Joyce

    • @joshuahamm8869
      @joshuahamm8869 Před 7 lety

      CZcams Red has invaded, there will never me another film theory! Conspiracies!

    • @fraserduffy4576
      @fraserduffy4576 Před 7 lety +5

      *Mattpat blink in your next video if you are in danger*

  • @nicholasshank6900
    @nicholasshank6900 Před 4 lety +1

    MatPat, I'll understand if there's just not enough theory material for it, but if at all possible you should do a Batman Who Laughs theory. As I have no clue what's available there to theorize, I won't be surprised if there's just nothing for you to talk about. I'm just loving the character, is all.

  • @LiquidLeNoir
    @LiquidLeNoir Před rokem +1

    This is years before we got the three jokers comic book issues and it holds up : The Criminal, The Clown (prankster), The Comedian (psychopath)

  • @punkser
    @punkser Před 7 lety +304

    Maybe you can be called.... BATPAT! No? Okay. I'll leave now.

    • @jeffdroog
      @jeffdroog Před 2 lety

      Lol No,he really couldn't be.Too short.Not enough muscle,and he sounds like an 11 year old lol Can't say he would fit the prestigious honor of that title one bit.

  • @nagitoaussiemandias
    @nagitoaussiemandias Před 7 lety +71

    I thlugh the Batman parody intro was going to say "Bat Pat" or something

  • @Vladimir-if6lj
    @Vladimir-if6lj Před 4 lety +6

    "Who is jared leto's joker?!"
    I'll tell you who he is...
    He's not a joker,just an edgy teen with guns and a lot of money

  • @jones7119
    @jones7119 Před 5 lety

    2:20 Wow you foreshadowed not only your next joker theory but also 'The Batman that laughs' 😂