Film Theory: The Dark Secret of Jellicle Cats *CREEPY* (CATS 2019)

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    I went to see CATS and it was an experience I won't soon forget. The opening song alone, well, that's everything you need to know! Jellicle songs for Jellicle cats - it makes perfect sense right? WRONG! It makes NO SENSE! What even IS a Jellicle anyway? That question has been bugging me since seeing the movie - no, since seeing the stage show years back. Today, we are solving the mystery of Jellicle cats once and for all!
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  • @Dawnishere
    @Dawnishere Před 4 lety +33395

    This is why I love Game/Film Theory turning basic, normal stuff into dark and twisted horrors.

  • @DarkGaming-xj9ly
    @DarkGaming-xj9ly Před 4 lety +7871

    Wish you had of included the review of cats: "I'm not a cat person, and after seeing the film adaptation of cats, I'm not quite sure I'm a movie person either"

    • @endigolikesarson
      @endigolikesarson Před 4 lety +297

      "Im a cat person but after seeing the film im not sure if i should say that anymore"

    • @radioactivebuglauncher
      @radioactivebuglauncher Před 4 lety +39

      i am a cat person, i want to own, watch, and then watch this movie again.

    • @anonb4632
      @anonb4632 Před 4 lety +13

      Yes, by an RTÉ review. Please credit the source. I wish I could remember the source.

    • @mela.1849
      @mela.1849 Před 4 lety +10

      It’s jacksfilms

    • @bluecat3338
      @bluecat3338 Před 4 lety +79

      My personal favorite was “It is, with all affection, a monstrosity.”

  • @reversedinfinity6056
    @reversedinfinity6056 Před 4 lety +3700

    "I guess we're all a little bit jellical now"
    Seeing as barely anyone went to see it, I'd say the damage is contained

    • @NSUDemon14
      @NSUDemon14 Před 4 lety +44

      Once I heard that line spoken, I literally shouted at my screen, "DON'T SAY THAT!" Oh my gosh, so creepy!

    • @Evelyn_onfire
      @Evelyn_onfire Před 4 lety +9

      Reversed Infinity what if you saw both the musical and the movie?

    • @reversedinfinity6056
      @reversedinfinity6056 Před 4 lety +7

      @@Evelyn_onfire Then probably more than just a *little* jellical

    • @litgamer5160
      @litgamer5160 Před 4 lety +2

      Than thank gosh I didn't watch it.

    • @islaydragons1563
      @islaydragons1563 Před 4 lety +9

      Class: Euclid
      Special Containment Procedures:
      Terrible box office returns

  • @thegayone1911
    @thegayone1911 Před 3 lety +3889

    What MatPat theories usually are:
    A) There's an evil killer bunny
    B) The villain is the good guy
    C) Maths and maths and maths and maths and maths
    D) It's actually a cult

    • @piffhebert1919
      @piffhebert1919 Před 3 lety +42

      Sounds like he needs to do Donnie Darko

    • @emycharaa
      @emycharaa Před 3 lety +36

      Why is it so true 😂

    • @lord__pasta
      @lord__pasta Před 3 lety +41

      Don't forget those dead kids

    • @thegayone1911
      @thegayone1911 Před 3 lety +43

      @Zoe Guy True. Tho tbh, that also involves an evil killer bunny

    • @sophiea7
      @sophiea7 Před 3 lety +8

      Tpgiti&kf

  • @sophgrayson
    @sophgrayson Před 3 lety +627

    Every search history can be explained by just saying
    "I was writing a book."

    • @autumnkramer2410
      @autumnkramer2410 Před 3 lety +32

      Yeah I needed the “Gary come home” lyrics for a book

    • @scottposton3428
      @scottposton3428 Před 2 lety +20

      Me, who has a mouse organ search history and Wattpad Mennard search history: Yeahh... rightttt *Walks away slowly*

    • @TheNinthGenerarion
      @TheNinthGenerarion Před 2 lety +6

      And always have a WIP of every topic

    • @AdmiralBonetoPick
      @AdmiralBonetoPick Před 2 lety +2

      Yeah, still wondering when I'm going to see any of these professional singers and sports stars get around to actually publishing their sociological studies of human perversion.

    • @lookatmyfacern
      @lookatmyfacern Před 2 lety +4

      @@scottposton3428 explained by saying you wanna make a fanfic.

  • @margarethmichelina5146
    @margarethmichelina5146 Před 4 lety +3328

    "He's the hot one, He's seductive, He's the good singer"
    You forgot that he's *Jason Derulo*

  • @sammieinc.3398
    @sammieinc.3398 Před 3 lety +5458

    Matpat: Cats is about a cult!
    Theater kids, off in the corner: Why do you think we like it? *It's relatable*

    • @sephandremanticore5438
      @sephandremanticore5438 Před 3 lety +331

      Said in unison creepy monotone

    • @thecatalyst6212
      @thecatalyst6212 Před 3 lety +264

      @@sephandremanticore5438 and they all turn their heads to look at you and say it at the same time

    • @imthatextrakid8292
      @imthatextrakid8292 Před 3 lety +229

      theatre kids can smell and sense each other like a gaydar

    • @chloegibbs7204
      @chloegibbs7204 Před 3 lety +143

      As a theatre kid, I can confirm this is true

    • @MittensZora
      @MittensZora Před 3 lety +61

      When you were listening to dear evan hansen before you started watching

  • @hannanags
    @hannanags Před 3 lety +713

    Sometimes Matpat's theories make even more sense that the original plot I was led to believe and they help me find new meanings in every movie. I know that you're supposed to interpret movies to how you understand their theme but Matpat's just seem to hit the nail right on the head everytime and I LOVE believing his theories rather than the original plot.

  • @sometimessomee3535
    @sometimessomee3535 Před 3 lety +239

    I still think the movie's CGI was still more terrifying than the Film Theory

    • @atseptic
      @atseptic Před rokem +4

      No matter whether you still agree or disagree with this comment
      I still agree with it

  • @mothiestman4995
    @mothiestman4995 Před 4 lety +3120

    You're just figuring this out now?
    Back when I asked my theater teacher what the plot to the musical was, and he just said "cat cult".

    • @retardeddog5176
      @retardeddog5176 Před 4 lety +198

      he needed a lot of evidence to back up his claim, so people would actually consider it

    • @salthesock1546
      @salthesock1546 Před 4 lety +154

      I need to meet your theatre teacher.

    • @mothiestman4995
      @mothiestman4995 Před 4 lety +120

      @@salthesock1546 He is a confusing wonder

    • @salthesock1546
      @salthesock1546 Před 4 lety +19

      Pebble Person lmao

    • @heineken3871
      @heineken3871 Před 3 lety +71

      Mat pat traveled back to the past to be a teacher. But hey, that's just a theory... A CZcamsr theory

  • @ifinnalychangedmyprofilepi4888

    "Loyal theorists" you say, showering us with compliments and indicating how we should be loyal. AND then introduceing prize of being shouted out ehh...
    Sure where do i sign up

  • @makaniwebb9358
    @makaniwebb9358 Před 2 lety +96

    It sounds like Step 3, dangling the prize, is the one you need to be most aware of. That seems to be where the differences start between cults and regular friendships.

  • @sophiea7
    @sophiea7 Před 3 lety +208

    Jennyanydots: *dancing and singing about her life as a jellicle cat*
    Me: Ma’am this is a Wendy’s

    • @LadyOnikara
      @LadyOnikara Před 3 měsíci +1

      With how plump.... um, I mean fluffy she is, I think she knows that.

  • @mihneazarojanu5761
    @mihneazarojanu5761 Před 4 lety +1744

    Jesus, you have to give credit where it's due. Matpat took one of the worst received movies ever and made it into a serious video talking about cults and how they recruit people. Well done, seriously.

    • @burmessafox3939
      @burmessafox3939 Před 4 lety +39

      Kinda want to watch the movie because of this

    • @kaexewires7531
      @kaexewires7531 Před 4 lety +8

      they tryna cult thooooo!

    • @sandkitten16
      @sandkitten16 Před 4 lety +12

      I still see emoji movie as worse than this movie, and worse than that iiis definitely...uh...what was it called...food fight? I try to forget. I really do.

    • @mihneazarojanu5761
      @mihneazarojanu5761 Před 4 lety +8

      @@sandkitten16 I mean, you're right. That was just the most obvious cash grab, and that's why I called this movie one of the worst, and not the worst.

    • @sandkitten16
      @sandkitten16 Před 4 lety +4

      @@mihneazarojanu5761 ahhh yeah, I misread. Apologies. Nice to know we agree though.

  • @BobbinRobbin777
    @BobbinRobbin777 Před 4 lety +10494

    this is a weird sequel to that "fifthy shades of grey" video.

  • @arafe.1012
    @arafe.1012 Před 3 lety +22

    jellicles: We're just gonna give her a new life
    Mat: seems kinda sus

  • @hilowpeoples
    @hilowpeoples Před 3 lety +72

    The saddest thing about this is that Tugger and Misto were turned straight. Tragic.

  • @KadenMacKay
    @KadenMacKay Před 4 lety +2706

    “I don’t know what’s worse: the idea that this poor cat is being tricked into joining a dangerous cult, or the slant rhymes that are being used in the song’s lyrics.” PREACH

    • @errorninja1019
      @errorninja1019 Před 4 lety +5

      ironic

    • @bellamartel7523
      @bellamartel7523 Před 4 lety +50

      Yeah Taylor Swift had literally two days to get this song together. I blame it on the cats rushed production schedule, not swift. Not my favorite song from her tho

    • @EveryThingGirl238
      @EveryThingGirl238 Před 4 lety +5

      The lyrics sound good being read or hummed in a faint tune, but I can only guess not as a song.

    • @noonenowhere877
      @noonenowhere877 Před 4 lety +10

      @@bellamartel7523 Frankly Taylor Swift had no business adding songs to a pre-existing musicals soundtrack. That's straightup creative arrogance.

    • @coreyhand3138
      @coreyhand3138 Před 4 lety +4

      No one Nowhere They even interviewed her about that song and she said something along the lines of comparing herself to T.S Elliot- “If you can’t have T.S Elliot, get T.S.” As if she can compare. So cringey... 😬

  • @cent5477
    @cent5477 Před 4 lety +8810

    I think more people are interested in this video, than the real Cats movie.

    • @finnsnow2495
      @finnsnow2495 Před 4 lety +139

      I can't watch the movie the trailer scared me too much

    • @Chris-uv1wr
      @Chris-uv1wr Před 4 lety +42

      I just skip the ad when I got it . Cause I just wanted to see my video than a ad :/ .

    • @millshaskett6044
      @millshaskett6044 Před 4 lety +74

      i mean, cats made less than 7 million, and a theater ticket is at least $10, and this video has almost 2 million views, so yeah. this video about Cats outperformed Cats..

    • @fairymairah
      @fairymairah Před 4 lety +4

      I am !

    • @Gerwulf97
      @Gerwulf97 Před 4 lety +8

      I am so disgusted by the trailer, that I didn't want to click on this video cause I didn't want to have to see the cats...

  • @DominationofProcrastination

    There's this dude, Sideways, who made a pretty interesting video called " Why the music in Cats is much more worse than you think" if anyone wants to check it out

  • @Testtesttesttesttest
    @Testtesttesttesttest Před 3 lety +17

    This is the second time I’ve had to take notes about movies being cults
    *and I’m only taking notes for wholesome family fun*

  • @Kelpeon
    @Kelpeon Před 4 lety +3987

    The Cats Movie Scared Everyone, Even Furrys.

    • @sinfulwrath666
      @sinfulwrath666 Před 4 lety +127

      Well this is I can agree upon.

    • @Sirake
      @Sirake Před 4 lety +65

      As a furry who grew up listening to the songs of Cats every time my mother drove the car, I thought it was fine

    • @Lily-ko7tk
      @Lily-ko7tk Před 4 lety +148

      As a furry...I can confirm

    • @afo985
      @afo985 Před 4 lety +13

      I agree

    • @persephonecthulhu8218
      @persephonecthulhu8218 Před 4 lety +38

      @@Sirake I find it hard to believe that anyone finds singing in this movie fine. I mean... compared to original,singing in this one is less than a trash.

  • @hackercow211
    @hackercow211 Před 3 lety +54

    I grew up hearing tales of the Jonestown in Guyana (My Parents are Guyanese) and I remember it shaking me down to the bones as a kid and this episode still reminds me of it. (PS the Kool-Aid Reference was a reference to the beverage Jim Jones used to commit his crime)

    • @dopesickdog
      @dopesickdog Před rokem +4

      (not to be rude but) i think he knew that, the phrase is only common parlance _because_ of the Jonestown massacre

    • @cameronjadewallace
      @cameronjadewallace Před rokem +1

      well, actually, they used flavor-aid, but it's like the same thing, right?

    • @hackercow211
      @hackercow211 Před rokem

      @@cameronjadewallace I think so

  • @fakelady8130
    @fakelady8130 Před 2 lety +8

    16:26 him just trying to say the word while I am just going crazy because I wasn't expecting to see my home country🤣 (finland)

  • @butterflystickers
    @butterflystickers Před 4 lety +2631

    I asked my dad:
    "You saw the original cats play, is the movie anything like it?"
    And he said:
    "Kiddo I fell asleep through that play and the only thing I remember is that they got taken by a spaceship at the end."
    And I just sat there like:
    O_o

    • @elizawulf8180
      @elizawulf8180 Před 4 lety +112

      I had a family member say the same thing about it... O_o

    • @labellelace
      @labellelace Před 4 lety +140

      Moopy to be fair, there’s not much of a plot. The musical was popular because the set and costumes were visually appealing and the music was fun to listen to, especially “memory”.

    • @marli8907
      @marli8907 Před 4 lety +78

      I fell in love with it as child. It's fantastical and weird. The dancing is phenomenal. If you want to see the real stageplay, watch the original taping. I think I disliked this movie because it took away some of the best parts: the costuming and dance for favor of CGI and big name stars.

    • @salthesock1546
      @salthesock1546 Před 4 lety +22

      Marlissa Cunningham yeah, I mean, I’m definitely one of those theatre kids Mat was talking about and this film made Cats weird and made them “relatable to kids because they have celebrities” but no, it made it like a cult. Yay.

    • @soysoytechnologies3141
      @soysoytechnologies3141 Před 4 lety +4

      ...?

  • @sebnimations1800
    @sebnimations1800 Před 4 lety +2323

    Teacher: why are you laughing?
    Me: nothing.
    My brain:
    CatPat

  • @jelleato5566
    @jelleato5566 Před 3 lety +23

    That laugh at the beginning is SUPER contagious 😂😂😂

  • @moonlight_dulcet
    @moonlight_dulcet Před 3 lety +26

    something that personally scares me is that i know that im too emotionally vulnerable and gullible that i'd probably get looped into a cult without realising at some point in life

  • @Prospitfox
    @Prospitfox Před 3 lety +2531

    Surprised you didn’t mention the thing jellicle cats all have in common: they’re specifically described in the song as SMALL, as in... RUNTS of the litter. The cats that would be most vulnerable early in life; more susceptible to sickness, less likely to be fed as kittens, maybe even being “abandoned” (they often need milk longer than other cats, so by the time most kittens would be separating naturally from their mothers the runts would still need them), slow development... this is the key thing that made them all perfect targets

    • @Hankyuh8
      @Hankyuh8 Před 3 lety +43

      YES SO SMART

    • @littlepeach9444
      @littlepeach9444 Před 3 lety +33

      Wait you have a very good point!

    • @lacunaereversed
      @lacunaereversed Před 3 lety +16

      Wait YES-

    • @Prospitfox
      @Prospitfox Před 3 lety +75

      I missed before THEY EVEN SAY JELLICLES DEVELOP SLOWER!
      Lyrics I’m thinking of are from “The Jellicle Ball” btw, which emphasizes the smallness a lot actually, repeating it 5 times throughout the song.
      “Jellicle Cats are rather small”,
      “Jellicle Cats develop slowly”, “Jellicle Cats are not too big”,
      “Jellicle Cats are of moderate size”,
      “Jellicle Cats, as we said, are small”

    • @sophiea7
      @sophiea7 Před 2 lety +10

      @@Prospitfox oh my gosh thank you 😊 such a great theory!

  • @OhSweetDarlingAkuma
    @OhSweetDarlingAkuma Před 3 lety +1993

    The Netflix show Unbreakable has an episode dedicated to Cats: The Musical and portrays it pretty well as a cult

    • @Wyzo69
      @Wyzo69 Před 3 lety +18

      What’s the episode called

    • @OhSweetDarlingAkuma
      @OhSweetDarlingAkuma Před 3 lety +32

      @@Wyzo69
      It's called Kimmy Is Rich*!

    • @A_Sarcastic_Tortilla
      @A_Sarcastic_Tortilla Před 3 lety +29

      Kimmy Schmidt is easily my favorite show on Netflix. If MatPat did a theory on it, I'd lose my mind.

    • @OhSweetDarlingAkuma
      @OhSweetDarlingAkuma Před 3 lety +7

      @Shsbd Dbshak It's worth watching from the beginning to follow the story properly but you do you, man. There are no rules, chaos reigns supreme

  • @Zeffer32
    @Zeffer32 Před 2 lety +9

    I've been a huge fan of Cats since I was a kid, wearing out an old vhs of the live london cast recording. This makes so much sense I wonder if it was in Webbers' or Elliots mind whilst writing

  • @amberlynightengale8382
    @amberlynightengale8382 Před rokem +7

    Petition for MatPat's fourth channel to be called Stage Theory where he does theories for plays and musicals. Would love to see what this man makes out of my childhood favorites!

  • @meloclipse2951
    @meloclipse2951 Před 3 lety +1836

    "wHeRe'S tAyLoR???"
    Sis I was wondering that the whole time

  • @ventusxzephyr13
    @ventusxzephyr13 Před 4 lety +1211

    When Cult's try to recruit me: Why don't you come over to a party?
    Me: Will I have to leave my house and interact with strangers?
    Cult: Yes but-
    Me:I'M NOT READY FOR THIS LEVEL OF COMMITMENT

    • @dustinm2717
      @dustinm2717 Před 4 lety +48

      Good news, there are probably online cults too

    • @gigaherz_
      @gigaherz_ Před 4 lety +57

      @@dustinm2717 Certainly! I can send you a Discord invite. Don't worry we are all friends there, like family, you can leave the server any time! We won't find your address, sedate you every night, and systematically replace body parts with cybernetic replacements. Not at all!

    • @moiraihlang5722
      @moiraihlang5722 Před 4 lety +29

      @@gigaherz_ sounds shady... where do i join?

    • @527dalto
      @527dalto Před 4 lety +15

      @@gigaherz_ can I get an invite to this please?

    • @artemanhaoliva4045
      @artemanhaoliva4045 Před 4 lety +10

      @@gigaherz_ omoshiroi... sign me in

  • @VanNessy97
    @VanNessy97 Před 2 lety +11

    I can't believe a cult analogy is what convinces me to watch a musical about literal cats

  • @Chronicler9
    @Chronicler9 Před 2 lety +26

    I was one of those who really enjoyed "Cats" the Broadway Musical, but was laughed at for saying I enjoyed it when I was in High School. For that reason, I've been afraid to watch the movie because it got laughed at far beyond the original musical and i'm afraid my naturally eccentric mind would be in love with it. Then I watched this Film Theory on it and now i have to watch the dang movie bc that was EXACTLY why i loved the original Cats - the analogies! And, like, NO ONE around me got it. i just stayed silent and enjoyed it on my own. Happy you did a theory on it, to at least get the analogies out to those who wouldn't be able to enjoy the original musical. (admittedly, "eating cockroaches with human faces" does sound absolutely weird but now i'm frickin' curious Lol)

  • @evanc6508
    @evanc6508 Před 4 lety +1431

    Cats: Makes a horrible movie
    MatPat: IT’S A CULT!!!!!!!

    • @myriahkeays3846
      @myriahkeays3846 Před 4 lety +12

      It is though loli

    • @tktvr9703
      @tktvr9703 Před 4 lety +3

      It's a Good movie, in it's own Way who would ever dare to watch it

    • @thememeslinger7506
      @thememeslinger7506 Před 4 lety +3

      It is....it literally is...no doubt about it

    • @noonenowhere877
      @noonenowhere877 Před 4 lety

      What I despise is that he lumps the original Musical in with the movie saying that it was always intended to be about a cult. What a freaking hack. >:(

    • @thememeslinger7506
      @thememeslinger7506 Před 4 lety +3

      @@noonenowhere877
      Oh come on man
      The original musical has a metric arseload of culty elements if you look deep enough into it
      The TS Eliot poems however
      No...there's nothing culty there at all
      No sarcasm

  • @crystelthewolf
    @crystelthewolf Před 3 lety +2794

    I can guarantee that MOST fans of the original musical stage play already know that the jellicles are a cult lmao

  • @kimchiiisconfuzzled2217
    @kimchiiisconfuzzled2217 Před 2 lety +25

    I watched Cats right after this theory because I've never seen it until now, and I gotta say, coming from a person that has been in a musical, it was actually pretty good. If you can get past the uncanny character designs (I thought old Detreuonomy's, Mungojerrie's, and Rumpleteaser's character designs were nice actually) and picture them as actual cats like the musical was suggesting (they reference several times that the humans playing the cats are supposed to be portrayed as normal cats because of things like room props being way bigger than the actors, simulating an average sized cat's perspective) it's actually really good. I liked the plot, the first song that was sung got me hooked and kept me wanting to watch more, and most of the other songs were also pretty good. I did laugh at some points at the dramatic dancing and cat like movements, but that again was to convey emotions to the viewer, that cats are elegant and proud of themselves, sleek and intelligent, agile, I think it was awesome that the actors protrayed that so well. I loved most of the actors shown, and they did amazing at their parts, I honestly might end up watching this again in the future, I was captivated by all the emotions shown through movement, and I Definently will be listening to MungoJerrie and Rumpleteaser's song for a while lol.
    If you haven't seen this I'd give it a chance at least. Like I said, you have to get past how the actors look, but if you do there's so much to enjoy and admire about this musical. It's not as perfected as other well known ones, but this one deserves a chance in my book💖

    • @AiyetoroFeligrus
      @AiyetoroFeligrus Před rokem +1

      the movie completely destroyed the musical on many levels XD (fault of directors/maybe writers not actors)
      Have you watched the og cause its way better and makes way more sense (and still pretty cultist lol)

    • @Chella972
      @Chella972 Před rokem +2

      I too have just seen the movie (never saw the og musical though so I can't get offended for how it compares) and well, they're such good actors, dancers and singers that in the end I didn't mind their appearence, maybe because I spend way too much time observing my own cat being weird.
      Though I felt like some of the plot got lost, Macavity is mean just because he wants to... Well, some cats are *ss just because they can, so it's not that weird to have the evil guy being evil because he's a cat, but he felt kinda useless in the movie? That's quite common for movie adaptations to lack off from source material so I'm trying to keep that in mind and just enjoy the movie, and I'll give a try to the musical next and maybe enjoy it even more then.

  • @ravenaldimier3950
    @ravenaldimier3950 Před 3 lety +9

    I have nothing bad to say about this video, it's amazing and Matpat and the team did such a good job. What I hate is the "animation" they used for the Jellecles, it looks like someone hopped into SFM and decided to make a full length animated movie in 30 minutes then stopped the render half way through. I'm so glad I didn't watch this movie, but I'm glad that I watched this episode

  • @ThatGuy-rv2xk
    @ThatGuy-rv2xk Před 4 lety +721

    No one:
    Matpat: Cats is a cult!
    Me, a cat owner: *Confused screaming*

  • @annadavis579
    @annadavis579 Před 4 lety +668

    As a theater kid... this is literally how I explain the musical to people who don't know about it, tbh

    • @Predated2
      @Predated2 Před 4 lety +26

      Oh, I just always referred to it as an PG-13 orgie. And to be fair to note, the ones who mat noted earlier(tugger, jenny and bustopher), actually do sing about not wanting to be the one who is picked next because they enjoy their current life so much and rather pick someone else instead. The musical is a lot less culty than the movie. Especially considering Grisabella often ends up returning in the final parts of the final song with a whole renewed glamourous outfit.
      But yeah, its still fairly culty orgie like.

    • @Dom-kp6ur
      @Dom-kp6ur Před 4 lety +1

      Just meme a funny guy, we made a meme out of a German guy from Once In A Life Time cause he always says ONT UUUUFA

  • @scottposton3428
    @scottposton3428 Před 2 lety +14

    Theory: Victoria died after she got thrown out and this was her brain's way of trying to "help her" with not belonging

  • @a.s.1412
    @a.s.1412 Před 2 lety +4

    I've watched about 7-8 film theory videos today and matpat has already explained to me the way to make a cult three times.

  • @TheLizbliz
    @TheLizbliz Před 4 lety +1774

    I know this is mainly focusing on the new version, but I think you should also consider this: originally Old Deuteronomy is a male cat (they clearly casted Judi Dench cause she has history with the musical, and it's one of the top roles in the story) and as you said the lyrics say she has live 99 lives, but originally the song goes,
    "Old Deuteronomy's lived a long time
    He's a cat who has lived many lives in succession-"
    then not long after goes
    "Old Deuteronomy's buried nine wives
    And more i am tempted to say ninety-nine-"
    it goes with the cult theory cause there have been several accounts of cult leaders having multiple partners such as Warren Jeffs, David Koresh, and Pazuzu Algarad.
    -pls notice this matpai-

  • @franceswildgen1907
    @franceswildgen1907 Před 4 lety +588

    I heard a review for cats that went like “this movie is so bad that if they played it on an airplane I would still walk out”

    • @rudyolfschiermeister8167
      @rudyolfschiermeister8167 Před 4 lety +11

      I would walk out even if the movie wasn't playing

    • @franceswildgen1907
      @franceswildgen1907 Před 4 lety +4

      Rudyolf Schiermeister oof

    • @redundantchannels8154
      @redundantchannels8154 Před 4 lety +4

      This movie's so bad if I had to watch it or get mauled slowly and painfully to death I'd choose getting mauled.

    • @strawberrystupidity7761
      @strawberrystupidity7761 Před 4 lety +1

      Rudyolf Schiermeister mood

    • @weegee9616
      @weegee9616 Před 4 lety +1

      Playing this on a loop and making people watch this, will make you worse than every bad person in history ever.

  • @twixandothertrixes
    @twixandothertrixes Před 3 lety +9

    “In a Theater” Oh boy..... is it sad that this gave me sad nostalgia.

  • @aliyesilyurt7691
    @aliyesilyurt7691 Před 3 lety +10

    "i think we are all a bit jelical now"
    Me who didnt watched the Movie knowing its terrible anyway: im 4 paralel universes ahead of you

  • @lukathelobster3091
    @lukathelobster3091 Před 4 lety +769

    My 5 year old brother asked at the end of the movie
    "Wait did that girl cat die at the end?"
    And I didnt even connect that until he said that

    • @APoliticalConfusionAndMess
      @APoliticalConfusionAndMess Před 3 lety +29

      I know one of them does by watching the on-stage musical.

    • @DivineChaos204
      @DivineChaos204 Před 3 lety +17

      Lol, is he a psychic

    • @cakeboy7782
      @cakeboy7782 Před 3 lety +12

      I think your bother is gonna be a detective when he grows up

    • @cannibalisticrequiem
      @cannibalisticrequiem Před 3 lety +5

      I mean if you... I hesitate to say "watched" because even the theatre community mostly hates Cats, but if you like/enjoy the musical, then it's not a surprise. Honestly I thought it was pretty obvious since in the majority of the songs, the characters sing about cats having numerous lives, and that the Jellicle Ball is for the expressed purpose of a cat being chosen to be reborn-- since the old wives tale is that cats have nine lives.

    • @lukathelobster3091
      @lukathelobster3091 Před 3 lety +1

      @@cannibalisticrequiem Yeah Im kinda stupid

  • @lunagotdippedinsauce9432
    @lunagotdippedinsauce9432 Před 4 lety +1094

    Me: *Sees Video in recommended*
    Me: No, matpat. Don't do this to yourself.

  • @ralphwiggum1203
    @ralphwiggum1203 Před 3 lety +3

    Title : the dark secret of cats
    Accompanying ad : Watch all your favourites on hbo, like cats

  • @YoungMediaMaurice
    @YoungMediaMaurice Před 3 lety +10

    english: u are good at norwegian matpat
    norwegian: du er veldig god på norsk matpat

  • @lalaland1427
    @lalaland1427 Před 4 lety +817

    Now let's try to imagine how people who had never even heard about the musical reacted when they saw the movie. Or even just the trailer for that matter.

    • @mark9152
      @mark9152 Před 4 lety +27

      I haven't seen the movie nor the musical. When I first saw the trailer, I thought it was kinda okay. I like the snipets of songs they sang. The CG was weird but not weird enough for me apparently, as minutes later I saw the like:dislike ratio and the number of comments about it. Though when I read the plot of the musical, I thought it was kinda fishy. Like something is off.. This theory might be it, it might not be. XD

    • @sydneytaylor8128
      @sydneytaylor8128 Před 4 lety +11

      When I first saw the trailer, I thought it was gonna be some kind of adult comedy for furries or something. I'd heard of the musical but didn't make the connection at the time.

    • @dougpouncey
      @dougpouncey Před 4 lety +3

      i was one of them, and i just thought “freaking furries”

    • @Wasthere73
      @Wasthere73 Před 4 lety +1

      Never knew about the musical. Wanted to watch it after the memes. Went drunk with friends, was the best experience I ever had. 10/10.

    • @aesofspades9795
      @aesofspades9795 Před 4 lety +1

      Me: music YES animation uuh concept sure

  • @endamagennis6889
    @endamagennis6889 Před 4 lety +482

    In Jonestown, a lot of the members realised just a step too late that Jim Jones was dangerous. They were trapped in Jonestown and many tried to escape but were gunned down or forced to drink the coolaid.

    • @nutpeg6915
      @nutpeg6915 Před 4 lety +6

      Cool aid as in poison?

    • @aliceinwonderland8314
      @aliceinwonderland8314 Před 4 lety +25

      @@nutpeg6915 the poison was in the coolaid, hence the phrase drinking the coolaid

    • @SiminaDar
      @SiminaDar Před 4 lety +20

      Fun fact: they drank flavor-aid, not koolaid. But koolaid is a more popular brand so the phrase morphed.

    • @BloodyAngel88
      @BloodyAngel88 Před 4 lety +1

      Or they were injected with the poison (like many of the babies and toddlers in the cult).

    • @BloodyAngel88
      @BloodyAngel88 Před 4 lety +2

      Kool-Aid***

  • @KrinhMcFluff
    @KrinhMcFluff Před 3 lety +5

    This is my childhood. The og 80s recording... Can u not

  • @potatokiddo
    @potatokiddo Před 3 lety +13

    Fun fact: Movies today are messed up and I cannot find a good movie that doesn’t have a darker meaning and cults are real.

  • @lindahaws6529
    @lindahaws6529 Před 4 lety +784

    matt: man this movie is so bad
    also matt pat: BUT ITS ALSO A SACRIFICIAL CULT OF BRAINWASHED...

    • @jiado6893
      @jiado6893 Před 4 lety +11

      It wasn’t really a secret.

  • @aguyonyoutube4sure
    @aguyonyoutube4sure Před 4 lety +799

    This is a weird sequel to the “fifty shades of gray” video.

    • @theGagarianplanet
      @theGagarianplanet Před 4 lety +29

      I was gonna say, are we just going to forget that video happened?

    • @TheRealDayzohn
      @TheRealDayzohn Před 4 lety +10

      This movie series is getting out of hand

    • @daddysnake5250
      @daddysnake5250 Před 4 lety +7

      i like that in that one it focused on the cult from the perspective of the leader/ new recruit aspect. this one focused more on how the rest of the cult influences the new recruit in supplication to the leader

    • @shangynecolston479
      @shangynecolston479 Před 4 lety +1

      Oh God yes!

  • @die2856
    @die2856 Před 3 lety +2

    i swear to god this theory on ''why cats the movie is actully about a cult'' give more and clearer info on cults than a netflix documentary

  • @CeltycSparrow
    @CeltycSparrow Před 2 lety +5

    Another interesting thing to consider is EVERY TIME that Victoria gets separated from the Jellicles (like in the beginning after the first song when she meets Macavity. She COULD HAVE run away, but Mr. Mistoffelees calls her back and brings her back to the other cats where the immediately go into the name song. Then again, when we see Macavity after Bustopher Jones' song....they see Macavity, the cats scatter....BOOM. Victoria is immediately picked up by the Calico twins and then rescued by Mistoffelees AGAIN and brought back to the other cats. The third time when Victoria is outside singing....Lady Deuteronomy watches her and then asks her to come back in AGAIN (even though Victoria confesses she is NOT a Jellicle) to watch her "make the Jellicle choice". And she even brings Lady D a new recruit in Grizabella. In the original version, Victoria IS here in this moment...but only AFTER Grizabella comes before Old Deuteronomy to sing Memory.

  • @highdivinity8243
    @highdivinity8243 Před 4 lety +810

    “Classrooms”, “Graduation”? Huh, starting to wonder if my school is a cult....

    • @alphega1983
      @alphega1983 Před 4 lety +95

      and if you're home schooled, you're looked upon differently and shunned by society

    • @BC0MBS
      @BC0MBS Před 4 lety +47

      Coincidence I think not

    • @princessazulaofthefirenati5870
      @princessazulaofthefirenati5870 Před 4 lety +3

      120th like and😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

    • @LazGato
      @LazGato Před 4 lety +15

      Shhhhhhhhh they might find you is you spill the beans...

    • @thedivel4176
      @thedivel4176 Před 4 lety +2

      It is

  • @medusa5472
    @medusa5472 Před 4 lety +636

    Can't believe you just made me wanna watch Cats.

    • @angelbrynner
      @angelbrynner Před 4 lety +8

      Meee Toooo! Lolol

    • @BlackEpyon
      @BlackEpyon Před 4 lety +5

      I haven't seen it in the theatres, but I want to get a copy on video.

    • @VenomQuill
      @VenomQuill Před 4 lety +3

      Goodness, me, too. ._.

    • @cloaker7237
      @cloaker7237 Před 4 lety +7

      I can ruin that urge to see Cats with 2 words:
      Rule Thirty-Four

    • @BlackEpyon
      @BlackEpyon Před 4 lety +3

      @@cloaker7237 What's wrong with that?

  • @birthdayfruitecake8158
    @birthdayfruitecake8158 Před rokem +3

    2:38, oh, it's a zigzag. Is it an aesthetic square, or is it a significant path?

  • @angelreilly8312
    @angelreilly8312 Před rokem +1

    I have been obsessed with the original London production of cats for YEARS - and now I can't see it any other way

  • @kylerbelshaw1465
    @kylerbelshaw1465 Před 3 lety +809

    4:47 "Nicknames bestowed by the cult"
    "Henceforth, you will now be known as: Sharkbait!"

  • @foreversingle1765
    @foreversingle1765 Před 4 lety +395

    Me watching - ooooh
    Matpat - The Jellicle Cats is a Jellicle Cul-
    Ad - WELCOME TO HOW TO GET YOUR CATS TO STOP MEOWING!!
    Me - Oh shizzle, they got him!!

    • @WhiteTiger950
      @WhiteTiger950 Před 3 lety +6

      Why would you want your cats to stop meowing? I think it's a pleasant sound.

    • @foreversingle1765
      @foreversingle1765 Před 3 lety +6

      @@WhiteTiger950 Idk, but that ad like... Must've kidnapped matpat

    • @quantum.code.x
      @quantum.code.x Před 3 lety

      Ad: aLL Of mY CaTs aRE SiLeNT!!

  • @Singularitypoints
    @Singularitypoints Před 3 lety +3

    when i saw the thum nail photo I was like .... " yeah he's going crazy"

  • @atthesnatchgame
    @atthesnatchgame Před 2 lety +2

    Cats is my favorite musical, I grew up on it and watched the DVD every weekend. Movie cats is like a fever dream that I’d never want to experience again

  • @ru1740
    @ru1740 Před 4 lety +250

    50 Shades of Grey: Cult
    Five Nights at Freddy’s: Cult
    Cats: Cult

  • @1castellp
    @1castellp Před 4 lety +506

    How do we warn adults about cults?: Cats 2019
    How do we warn kids about strangers?: three little pigs

    • @theycallmerainy2010
      @theycallmerainy2010 Před 4 lety +11

      We also use Hansel and Gretel to warn kids not to trust people (sometimes even parents) and the story of the tooth fairy to teach kids that that they aren't worthless (no matter how much they think they are)

    • @theycallmerainy2010
      @theycallmerainy2010 Před 4 lety +4

      LittleRedRhuari RRR no, you can sell their teeth and organs and make millions

    • @katherined
      @katherined Před 4 lety +3

      don't forget about that rescue rangers' cola cult episode

  • @CraftingGummi
    @CraftingGummi Před rokem +2

    I know this is about Cats, but the cult thing got me thinking about The Owl House. Lillith joining the Emperor’s coven (the most shown example) is pretty much an exact match for most of these steps.

  • @daniexmachina
    @daniexmachina Před 3 lety +2

    I first saw this show in middle school and I was completely in love with it for years and it never occurred to me that they were sacrificing someone

  • @johnncat2277
    @johnncat2277 Před 4 lety +447

    Cats the movie: about Victoria becoming a jellical cat
    Cats the musical: about Victoria going into heat for the first time

    • @cakes4494
      @cakes4494 Před 3 lety +15

      I'm sorry WhAt?

    • @johnncat2277
      @johnncat2277 Před 3 lety +28

      @@cakes4494 yeaaaah in the musical there was 3 ish storylines but the one about victoria is just basically that . Its a beautiful musical tho

    • @sephandremanticore5438
      @sephandremanticore5438 Před 3 lety +5

      Definitely would have been more fun to watch

    • @cannibalisticrequiem
      @cannibalisticrequiem Před 3 lety

      @@johnncat2277 I wouldn't say it's a "storyline", but something that just happens. I was also going to say that it's not the first time Victoria goes into heat, but I'm not quite sure since I *think* she's supposed to be a kitten since she hangs out with Jemima, Ecetera, Electra, Tumblebrutus, Pouncival, etc. But then she's also shown interacting with the older cats, with some of the toms (Alonzo, Plato, and Quaxo/Mistoffolees) pursuing her.

    • @johnncat2277
      @johnncat2277 Před 3 lety

      @@cannibalisticrequiem Oh true, my friend told me it was her first time (but not sure of course), during that scene/song, where everyone's in a circle and she and another cat is in the middle and she gets lifted up?

  • @sammi1078
    @sammi1078 Před 3 lety +740

    Frankly, this movie is almost nothing like the musical. For one thing the musical doesn't even follow the kidnapping of cats, the only kidnapped cat is Deuteronomy and thats only for one moment as Mistoffeles brings him back immediately

    • @Clammychow
      @Clammychow Před 3 lety +65

      Yea, the movie completely warped the whole structure and characters of the original stage show (which was lowkey kinda good if you dig into it)

    • @erinium19
      @erinium19 Před 3 lety +46

      @@Clammychow The stage show is high key amazing dunno what planet you live on lmao

    • @moonsugar8320
      @moonsugar8320 Před 2 lety +37

      i think macavity kidnaps some of the kittens but it's not because he wants the prize or anything, it's just cause he's evil and he wants to

    • @silasfrisenette9226
      @silasfrisenette9226 Před rokem +1

      @@erinium19 said no one ever ... Possibly literally .. 😅

    • @coffeeaddict9605
      @coffeeaddict9605 Před rokem +10

      @@silasfrisenette9226 Yeah no, you're wrong.
      The musical is one of the most beloved musicals out there, it's just the movie that is terrible.

  • @sincerecinnamon
    @sincerecinnamon Před rokem +2

    I remember around two years ago, I watched this in the background without really knowing anything about it, and now that I am quite actually interested in cats the musical (as in the 1998 verson, of course. I'm not a monster), I like this theory... for the movie. In the original play and with the original characters, I don't think this is as true, although it has it's good points, but for the movie which I believe to not be anywhere near the play, I think that it works really well.

  • @Catan367
    @Catan367 Před 2 lety +1

    Thank you for this for this info matpat

  • @sportsimpossible8637
    @sportsimpossible8637 Před 4 lety +363

    The dark secret of cats: it’s a weird movie about perverted cats dancing around naked

  • @yanakirsten7438
    @yanakirsten7438 Před 4 lety +764

    "Pause your 'Dear Evan Hansen' playlist"
    I feel called out

    • @torazely
      @torazely Před 4 lety +21

      Currently its the Beetlejuice playlist for me, but Dear Even Hansen is always a fallback, along with Wicked and Hamilton

    • @grommc
      @grommc Před 4 lety +4

      Nivan Jeffries are you my sister lol

    • @torazely
      @torazely Před 4 lety +4

      @@grommc I mean, I'm a guy, so probably not 😆

    • @westonkouryfan69
      @westonkouryfan69 Před 4 lety +2

      Hadestown playlist raise your glass

    • @musicallypan
      @musicallypan Před 4 lety +1

      @@torazely
      Beetlejuice is sexy-

  • @charlithegamer1657
    @charlithegamer1657 Před rokem +3

    Ok, A, no one has heard of these brands (the ones that he says to put to the side) but B, can you just let us appreciate MatPat laughing for the first time?

  • @bigbussenfishyshart6975
    @bigbussenfishyshart6975 Před 3 lety +8

    Mat pat: the guy that has the ability to make something that’s a sin more of a sin

  • @user-xi1xn2ij5v
    @user-xi1xn2ij5v Před 4 lety +758

    " Pause your Dear Evan Hansen playlist."
    .......
    But I haven't even started yet!

  • @surpriseddumpling2606
    @surpriseddumpling2606 Před 4 lety +985

    “Put that Dear Evan Hansen playlist on pause”
    Me: *N E V E R*

  • @ricochet0928
    @ricochet0928 Před 3 lety +13

    I find it hilarious that even the furries didn't like this movie

  • @JaredHiguera
    @JaredHiguera Před 3 lety +2

    When he was laughing
    I laughed too
    What did you do know matt

  • @claram6488
    @claram6488 Před 3 lety +865

    Mat: it’s a cult
    Theatre kids: um... took you long enough.

    • @HangryOnPaws
      @HangryOnPaws Před 2 lety +26

      I was genuinely expecting this video to be about the musical, because it doesn't hide that it's a cult. You ever think that Mac Cavity (I think that's how you spell it? I'll Google it) was actually trying to get someone out of the cult? And the leaders were villianising when really he was the good guy?

    • @saurus8689
      @saurus8689 Před rokem +1

      666 likes 🤨.

    • @spyd_d1983
      @spyd_d1983 Před 11 měsíci

      It’s an allegory for the struggles of the lgbtq+ community “theatre kids” know it’s not a cults. it’s just mats interpretation which is fine and an interesting take on the musical

  • @marymoore8633
    @marymoore8633 Před 4 lety +591

    Matpat: talks about a cult
    Me, who was in a production of Cats: yes

    • @itsmejejune128
      @itsmejejune128 Před 4 lety +21

      Was in Cats in what way?

    • @ashishere771
      @ashishere771 Před 4 lety +11

      @@itsmejejune128 ;)

    • @thegreendragon9628
      @thegreendragon9628 Před 4 lety +17

      @@ashishere771 **gags**

    • @aidenives-day2259
      @aidenives-day2259 Před 4 lety +6

      how where you in cats what do you mean

    • @user-cv4bl3oz5n
      @user-cv4bl3oz5n Před 4 lety +32

      Lavender Nomad Probably a school or community theater Production. I was in it in my high school’s production a few years ago. It was a weird musical...

  • @venomousbunny9875
    @venomousbunny9875 Před rokem +2

    9:15 is this why so many shooters have cultists as enemies?
    They're in too deep, they can never be deprogramed, gunning them all down is a mercy and to make sure the cult never restarts you must leave no survivors.

  • @warioooo6932
    @warioooo6932 Před 2 lety +19

    New Movie:*comes out*
    Matpat:let me make a theory that ruins the movie for everyone
    I love this channel

    • @MovieFan1912
      @MovieFan1912 Před rokem

      Or in this case, makes the bad movie look even worse.

  • @hug-the-raccoon
    @hug-the-raccoon Před 4 lety +450

    Everyone: You can't make me hate Cats more
    Matpat: Hold my jellicle.

    • @Erw9296
      @Erw9296 Před 4 lety +5

      That sounds wrong... ;-;

    • @itziza11
      @itziza11 Před 4 lety +1

      that sounds like an innuendo 😂

  • @GrippyGoth
    @GrippyGoth Před 4 lety +173

    This honestly makes the most sense, I left the movie confused and a little mortified by how they killed that cat like it was a good desirable thing

    • @gundamgunpla4685
      @gundamgunpla4685 Před 4 lety +12

      This is what the story is. If you read the original this is it.

  • @lpsangel3
    @lpsangel3 Před 3 lety

    Thanks for the theory matpat, it's great!

  • @johnsonter1358
    @johnsonter1358 Před 2 lety

    Had to do this play in primary school 😓 this just brings back the nightmare.

  • @orenji-ov2yq
    @orenji-ov2yq Před 4 lety +330

    "Cats: the worst thing happened to cats since dogs". Best quote ever!!!

    • @ashtwoash
      @ashtwoash Před 4 lety +1

      orenji12341 I was gonna comment this but you beat me to it

  • @mememe4188
    @mememe4188 Před 4 lety +565

    The whole movie I felt like the cats needed a censor bar.

    • @TheWeekndGaming
      @TheWeekndGaming Před 4 lety +2

      Miraculous Critique r/youngpeopleyoutube

    • @g4fly4ever8
      @g4fly4ever8 Před 4 lety +17

      @@TheWeekndGaming r/ihavereddit

    • @tomjones6944
      @tomjones6944 Před 4 lety +2

      censor, like blurred out? I am pretty sure they used the "smoothing" technique, that's why you couldn't see any of the male actors bulges; but yea if meant their faces you could have just poked your eyes out; but honestly you actually went to see it (hopefully cuz you had to review it for your channel, or IRL job; I feel sorry for you if that's the case. My understanding is that ALW wrote the musical as spectacle, a job for the costume and set designers; that the plot was always sorta dumb because he based it off those silly poems about cats by TS Eliot)?

    • @thorondor1593
      @thorondor1593 Před 4 lety +5

      But the furry audience needs to stay...

    • @g4fly4ever8
      @g4fly4ever8 Před 4 lety +7

      @@thorondor1593 ...Dead

  • @tjlazy5044
    @tjlazy5044 Před 3 lety +4

    I’m pretty sure this CZcams video made more money than the actually movie

  • @auburncryptd6318
    @auburncryptd6318 Před 2 lety +4

    Me watching this: *WAIT. Wasn't this the EXACT way I've been recruiting members for my discord server*

  • @lindsaylavender9110
    @lindsaylavender9110 Před 4 lety +225

    Let’s be real, Matpat is a former theatre kid so this theory has brewing for years

  • @Lynch2507
    @Lynch2507 Před 4 lety +195

    *looks at the fifty shades theory*
    "Come here often?"

    • @felixsubakti6907
      @felixsubakti6907 Před 4 lety +15

      *The Jellicles getting busted for being a cult*
      Christian grey right next to it: "First Time?"

  • @samaramonkman4129
    @samaramonkman4129 Před 2 lety

    This is why he is the best he turns anything into a horror man i love these channels

  • @irisbutterfly4845
    @irisbutterfly4845 Před rokem

    The opening and introduction of this theory had me in tears...this is the most I have laughed at a youtube video in months 😂