I Hate Your Deck #79 Kelsian v Doric v Ian Malcom v Slimefoot || Commander Gameplay MTG EDH
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i dont believe that nissa was full when she came in. cause it came in completed
Lynch was told in the live chat!
Thought the same.
Yeah she wouldn’t be with 7 loyalty, she should etb with 5
Yes. He paid 2 Life, and she comes in with 2 less loyalitycounter. He couldn't ult her.
It was phyraxian mana not compleated. Wich in this case was 1green or 2 life
Ian Malcolms effect is a triggert abillity and not a replacement effect. So when he played the Burning inquiry at around 15:30, the Burning Inquiry should have resolved first and then the Ian Malcolms triggers should have resolved
I was actually just asking my commander community when those effects triggered. sounds like I was right and they use the stack so anything that draws 2 and has other effects or draws 3 or more needs to resolve fully first.
Right? Do they not normally have a judge off camera too? I am in no way trying to be negative, but I was EXTREMELY surprised this was missed considering Lynch has correctly stated that an entire card resolves before triggers are put on the stack for a situation like this in previous episodes.
I thought the same thing
okay that's what I thought, I was about to look it up thanks for this
The Malcolm player should have known his trigger. But, tbh, people miss play cards all the time and it didn't disrupt gameplay. The only people pissed about the mistrigger was the comment section. If you're playing in front of camera, you gotta know your commander
I always love how the focus of this channel is always on playing your commander and having fun, out of all the channels this is the one id like to be on the most.
36:36 I think there is a game error with Nissa, life points were spent to reduce the mana cost. That means it comes into play with two fewer loyalties and that's why the ultimate can't be used in the same turn, right?
thank you someone noticed.
I believe? When a player draws their second card for turn, Ian's abiltiy then goes on the stack. Its not a replacement effect
Rays lil chuckle from aetherize 😂
This is the type of play group that's amazing! Playing stuff, having fun, joking around, doing cool things. Good game!
Someone tries to politic with Matt, "I think you want. todo that anywaysSsSsSs" BAHAHAHA so smart hahahah
I totally agree. I laughed so hard when editing it. Matt has not playing. He was ready.
@@IHateYourDeck nissa cant ult if you pay phyrexian for any of her cost, comes in at 5 the way lynch played
Spells and abilities don't go on the stack and resolve in the middle of other spells and abilities resolving.
Severely times during this game this was happening.
Example: spell said each player draws 3 than discards 3 at random. Randy said oh u all drew ur second card so my ability happens right now before u draw your third card or discard. That's not how it works lol.
Gotta resolve the entire spell or ability before other stuff that triggers goes on the stack
JUDGE! at 44:57, Ray took 2 from fevered visions even though he did not have more than 4 cards in hand.
Matt is so Funny!!! What a great addition to the rotating players!
Fun episode, glad I caught it first thing this morning
"Say draw one more time, mf" is my quote of the game lmao another awesome episode. I LOVE IHYD
Randy is back! And Ray! And a new guy! I'm so hyped for this episode
Been soo out of the loop with Magic for a long time now but whenever i see Slimefoot being played i get happy ~
Such a lovely dude and quirky deck 🙏
Big fan Lynch I need to sign up for your Patreon. I have never missed it episode.
Ray is such a character i love it! Would love to play with yall sometime
“For the bad news I’m coming at Ray!” Dead lmao sounds exactly like my playgroup
I run a kelsien deck as well, I recommend treasure support, a lot of death touch, and thornbite staff, goblin sharpshooter ect. Basi collar+kels+thorn= perma boardwipe. Basi collar+sharpshooter=perma boardwipe, and whatever other pingers you like ❤️
Hells yeah! Love this show! Hope to be on it one day!
Ray definitely love the fact you built a saproling deck!!
Epic game! Everyone had a chance to pop off and show threat potentential.
Lol Ray, "no trample, just vibes."
You did good Ray!
Are Ray's sleeves super old? I had those for a deck over 10 years ago, or did that art just happen to be really popular and they kept printing them?
Nah bro I went hunting for some old ones
I would love to see a special episode where everyone talks how they build their decks (how they think about it). Especially Larry, of course! It would help everyone to learn to build their own fun decks.
Great game Mike was super fun to watch probably the most fun game in awhile!
This was a good episode loved it
Man, Ray bringing out the classic sleeves.
Randy playing his commander wrong was pretty frustrating. You do not stop effects and ability half way through to exile cards like that. Also the Nissa was not at full loyalty since life was paid for it...
Nooooo Ray was so close! Great video as usual.
Hi guys ! Great video, but I saw a little missplay from lynch at @36:48 with his nissa, and the compleated ability trigger. Poor ray you took a lot of damage on it !
At 53:53 Dosan would have stopped Nissa and Verdant Force from being cast.
Matt Lees a Long Beach staple! Great to see him on!
*sobbing* 'no trample just vibes' hahahha
Nissan shouldn't have been able to ulti. But great game as always. Ray gave me some good ideas for my mycotyrant deck :)
if you're drawing multiple cards as part of the resolution of a single spell, ian malcolm's ability doesn't resolve in the middle of that, so you need to draw all your cards from burning enquiry/siphon mind before exiling.
Ray, you are amazing. -Words of Affirmation
Kelsien is my main commander deck I really hope he does well it's such a fun mardu proliferate deck
Lynch your owl bear becomes unequiped when you transform because she exils than comes back in so the equipment falls off
The transform does not say to exile and return it transformed, so it stays on the battlefield and just flips.
You did good Ray 😊
Dosan prevents spells from being cast when it is not your turn, when Randy cast Guff Rewrites History, the last bit says "Each player may cast". Lynch and Ray would not have been able to cast the spells they hit. There were a lot of misplays this game lol
I would like to know if anyone know what the app they use ? Thanks !
JUDGE! One instance of Phyexian mana was used to play Nissa, so it only comes in with 5 loyalty, not 7. 36:50
love watching these matches always a good time! but did anyone notice he payed 2 life for nissa so she loses 2 loyalty counters and only comes in with 5
however; the prismari command would not have been countered on resolution as the draw is targetted. That would be 2 more ominous seas counters and an ian trigger. 31:50
15:46 im pretty sure thats not how it works, since the exile part (from ian) is a triggeredd ability. it goes onto stack and cannot resolve while an other spell (burning inquery) is still in the middle of resolving.
i belive (correct me if im wrong) everyone draws three and discards three at random, then ian triggers 4 times (randy can choose in which order they enter the stack, since he controlls the triggers (because he controlls ian)) and everyone exiles the top card.
the way randy describes it, sounds like how it would work if it was a replacement effect.
would love to you this group play game of emperor format. be great to see that style played again.
I hate that format...
Guff Rewrites History would only give the controller a card as Dosan would stop the other 2 players from being able to cast the exiled card.
You did good Ray
Wouldn’t Dosan nullify the opponents’ spells from Guff Rewrites History?
Nissa gets -2 loyalty for each phyrexian you pay I have also ignored this text before
Ian malcom's effect should only trigger once per turn. You can only draw your "second" card once per turn, if you draw after that you get a third and then a fourth, which means it wouldn't trigger then
Correct. Just the 2nd card. Each turn.
@ 36:41 How did it get 7 loyalty? Wouldn't it have been 5 because of the Compleated?
there are several mistakes in this. nissa could not ult because you paid the pherexian cost which causes her to come in with 5 loyalty not 7. also an effect resolves before triggered abilities are added to the stack which would have potentially massively changed this game. so when you make your oppent draw cards to trigger malcom if the draw is greater than 1 all of that draw must be completed first and if the effect of the draw has more steps than drawing all of that card effect completes before you move on to other effects on the stack
Was there a misplay with Nissa? If it came in with Phyrexian mana, it should have had 2 fewer loyalty counters and be unable to ult, right?
Great game but im wondering why ray didn't take him out in response to him targeting his parallel lives
Um judge! 36:30 Lynch paid 2 life so nissa should've entered with five loyalty
Libary, lol, it got to me. He never wants pronounced the first r in library
The Nissa should not have been able to Ult immediately as Phyrexian mana was used, and the compleated plansewalkers state that they enter with 2 fewer loyalty counters for each 2 life used to cast them.
Saying youre Karl Malone is crazy dont be him lol. Good episode fellas
Ray's sleeves are Elite
15:48 this is wayyyyy wrong, triggers do not resolve in the middle of a spell resolving. Low key bothers me when someone plays their commander wrong w such conviction, like bro it’s your commander and the whole deck is built around it, at least get THAT card right.
36:30 Nissa would have only entered with 5 loyalty because 2 life was paid to cast it.
great game, just unfortunate that lynch couldn't ult nissa as she entered with 5 loyalty not 7 since he payed 2 life instead of the full mana for her.
Lynch there is some with the lighting facing your side of the table its too bright
36:26 , Nissa should've came in with 5 loyalty counters instead of 7 because of the phyrexian mana paid with life. Wouldn't have been able to ult.
We love the new guy, he’s our guy
U did good ray🎉
Please tell me that next week will be a new episode because you did a new episode last week. The reason is I was excited because I got IHYD and got paid on the same day.
Couldnt have alted the planeswalker nyssa, when you pay life it gets less counters
Nissa does not enter with 7 loyalty counters but instead with 5 since one phyrexian mana was paid to cast her. So Lynch couldn't have used the -7 that turn. Great game regardless
When transform the comander into owlbear side would still be the same comander cause technically different name on other side would still be comander damge just wondering its why I avoid flip comanders
yeah, its the same game object
Commander is a property of the card itself. Both sides of the card are your commander, the damage is cumulative for each side.
"Commanderness" is tied to the card itself, the physical piece of cardboard. Combat damage dealt by either face of a double-faced commander counts as commander damage from the same commander. It's the same reason a token copy of a commander or a clone of a commander doesn't deal commander damage. The name is irrelevant.
Commander damage is tracked per piece of physical cardboard. Transform cards are the same commander on both sides. Other things like copies of your commander that are tracked by a token, or by a different card, don't count towards that commander's damage. If your commander is altered in any way that leaves their physical card intact (like getting turned into an Elk by Oko, or turned into a beetle by darksteel mutation) they still count towards their original damage.
Commander damage is tied to the physical card. If it transforms, it's still the same card. If it's flipped over (morph) it's still the same card. If it becomes a copy of another card, or gets turned into an Elk and loses all abilities, it's still the same card, too.
5 damage as a normal card, 5 damage as a transformed card, 4 damage as a morphed card, 4 damage as a copy of another card, and 3 damage as an Elk all add together to make 21 commander damage.
You sir compleated Nissan so she had 5 loyalty
Hate to tell you but theres like 10 people at my lgs that have slimefoot decks. Ones even a CEDH deck XD
Ray is OG.
Best f*cking Commander show on YT!
Ray you did good
Y'all just robbed Ray with that compleated Nissa that was supposed to come into play with one less counter because you paid two life.
Wellp, I'm still watching so hopefully you guys catch it lol
(Sorry to be one of those guys who only comments when isht goes down, love y'all!)
If you play Nissa you should know that if you pay life to put her in she comes in with fewer loyalty counters
Well done Slimefoot for winning!
at 36:50 nissa should have entered with 2 less counters cause of the "compleated" and couldnt do the ultimate :/
36:34 if you pay life for Nissa she enters with less loyalty so you can't -7 her right away.
ray should of saced the saps when his parallel lives was targeted.
with guff rewrites history lynch and ray cannot cast the spell because it is not their turn and dosan is in play
You done fucked up with that planeswalker Lynch. You paid life to cast it so you couldn’t have ulted her that turn. I think Ray actually won this game.
All those dying saps and never once does he sac it to the Elvish Farmer for life...
Ray was robbed 😢
Damn just gonna cheat Ray outta that with the overrun
"Lie-berry"
Lynch accidentally cheated and ulted Nissa even though compleation brings her in with less loyalty counters.
Noone saying anything about the fact that Nissa wouldnt have been able to ultimate? If you use Phyrexian mana she gets less loyalty when she enters. So that whole play isnt even a thing ^^. How broken would it be otherwise ^^
nissa cant ult if you pay phyrexian for any of her cost, comes in at 5 the way lynch played
craterhoof wins 99pct of the time when played lol... Anyone could have won this ...great game
36:25 lynch payd 6+2 life so nissa enters the battlefield whit 5 not 7 loyalty counters :V what a mistake
Lynch illegally ulted nissa. She came in with 5 loyalty since he paid 2 life to cast
Cheated with Nissa!! She should’ve came in with 5 loyalty counters and couldn’t have ramped for power.
Justice for Ray
T EEF LING
Nissa enters with 5 loyalty, not 7, also, Ian is a triggered ability, not a replacement, hence, it can't exile a card in between a spell resolution... 😐