2022 BMW M240i vs 2018 BMW M2 // Will The Real M Car Please Stand Up
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- The 2022 BMW M240i xDrive ($56,950 CAD starting, $48,550 in the United States) and the 2018 BMW M2 ($54,000 CAD used, ~$50,000 USD on the American market) pose an interesting $50k question. While the new M240i xDrive has more power than the older and rear-driven M2, it also weighs more and can only be had with an automatic transmission. James ponders which of the two he would rather choose, while Thomas needs much less time to deliberate. Watch to see what happens! SUBSCRIBE!
THANKS to AMP Motorsports www.amp-motorsports.com/ for wrapping the M2 in XPEL's 10mil PPF and fully ceramic coating it. (If you were ever on the fence about ceramic coating or PPF, get off it, and pull the trigger. You WON'T regret it).
THANKS to safe-auto.ca for delivering Thomas' M2 safely and quickly. Call these guys if you need a car delivered or stored. They are simply the best.
THANKS to Apex www.apexraceparts.com for continuing to outfit our cars in sick, durable track wheels. (We have a full season of endurance racing on these wheels and we get the feeling they will outlast every other part of the car).
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"This is a manual, which makes me more handsome and a superior car enthusiast."
Well said Thomas, well said.
either directly or sarcastically well said
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@@NeXuS858 mumps
Cap, manual makes you sweat balls and look ugly
The old one is so much better looking
"all I needed this to be was a not ugly 4 series because they've decimated that car in my eyes."
I felt that.
So... they reduced the 4-series by 10%?
So progressive of BMW to hire blind designers to design their new cars
Honestly it sounded like James was holding back tears saying that
@@Kronos0999...did Chris Bangle start the process in the early 2000s? Is BMW evolving his designs or are they trying to distance themselves from that era? Also, what is BMW's five year/10 plan for design? As companies move toward EVs, they need to blend current designs with future designs to keep customers interested and set a design presidence...
Can confirm. Didn’t even consider the M440 when shopping for the M340i.
One more thing I like more in the 2018 M2 is the headlights. I personally always loved the double round headlights, it always made look BMWs apart from the other German competitors. On the BMW M240i the headlights to me look too "Audi". Anyways. Thank you guys for the content, I really enjoy your shows! Congrats for the M2! Drive safe!
I definitely agree! I don't necessarily dislike the new look, but didn't BMW start the "Halo" daytime running light look? Idk why they would move away from it. The look is so synonymous with the brand now it seems. It would be like Mustang ditching their iconic tail lights.
Agree
I like the old version more period. The new one just looks so ugly way worse than the 440i in my opinion
@@Person-cv9dj Agree again
exactly.... everybody talks about the rear, but the rear, at least on video and photos is not offensive to me, whilst the front!? those headlights with a single halo and the triangular air intakes in the bottom of the spoiler, ruin it for me. I think they made the right decision to make the 2 series apart from the 1 series but the execution didn't succeed. It should have been a little bit less expensive, less high-end materials to support that, obviously, a little lighter if that was even possible when using that platform from models above the 2 series and despite the fact that they didn't use the huge kidneys, the rest looks a bit like the Chris Bangle designs from a 15/20 years back. Tooo fat and geometrical! Bottom line, it's good but I would still rather have the previous gen. Cause let's face it... infotainment? materials? those only count on a daily car, they are less relevant for a second and sports car. At least this is what people usually tend to in Europe. Cheers everybody.
The F87 M2 is seriously one of the best looking cars BMW made in recent history. I can’t find an angle that doesn’t look good. I really hope I can have one of these in my parking stalls one day! Thomas made such a good choice
If you're a 16 yr old girl into old cars i guess
That just about sums it up its more about what it looks like rather than the drive. A bit like the rest of tbe world today ❤
BMW M2 is as near perfect as it could be, really happy to see that Thomas bought one
Near perfect ? Doesn’t seem so in this case. The 240i beat it in every metric, including price. M240i for the win.
@@alexnutcasio936 manual and wayyy better looking
@@alexnutcasio936 perfectly describes the difference between a brochure nerd and an actual enthusiast. The stats are just part of the car itself, there are far many more aspects to be considered such as fun, feel, quality, looks etc. If stats were the only consideration then someone might even argue that a soccer mom crossover is sportier and better than a 60s sports car because a crossover might have a better 0-60. The numbers are just half the story.
@@alexnutcasio936 But, and it's a big but to me, no manual available
@@alexnutcasio936 lmao the m2 is already too heavy, let alone the 240i
The M2 is not only about speed. Its about the way it drives. Love the new car Thomas
This is what the FnF generation and young gamers(who don't even drive irl) don't understand. Not everything about "speed" and useless 0~60 numbers. It's about how the car handles and driving feedback.
@@SaintMecha I couldn’t agree more, if they want something fast just get on the rollercoaster lmao
@@SaintMecha same for every dodge owner.
Raw numbers, real world be damned.
It’s amazing, I’d take that over any other new M car
They say that the gt86 is slow aswell.
But i have never driven a better handeling car then it
I bought 2022 M240i xDrive in November 2021 and I can attest that not only I can drive it all year but it is also a beast in sports plus mode and a very comfortable cruiser in the comfort mode. If you are on a fence about M240i vs M2 and need AWD then don’t sweat it, get M240i, you will not regret it. This car puts a smile on my face every time I drive it.
im deciding between getting the 230i rwd or the 240 awd, i love to drift when its rainy, and im not really used to drifting awd. Do you think its easy to drift it in normal cornes when the road is wet with the rw bias? thanks in advance!
You can drift it some but you would be better off with a lighter rwd 230i if that is your passion as long as you don’t mind giving up the horsepower and all year around use. In my case I did want awd (we get a lot of snow in Wisconsin) and a part time car was not an option for me.
@@banzai2438 thanks for answering so quickly! Ill propably have to get the 240i cause ill have to drive it in snowy condotions aswell. As long as its driftable to some degree, im fine :) the 230i would also almost cost me the same amount of money so 240i it is I guess 👍🏼😅
@@lucamartini7442 m240i paired with xdelete would be optimal then
What’s the noise level on the highway? Can I listen to music and hold a conversation without raising my voice? Looking to get one but can’t find any to test drive.
Coming back after a whole year, and I gotta say, I have changed my mind more and more. The new M240i is actually gorgeous in person. I’ve only seen 1 or 2 in my entire year. So they are pretty rare sight to see.
And they look agressive and muscular AF
The old m2 looks significantly better, but at the same time the old m2 is easily one of bmws most elegant yet aggresive, timeless designs of all time. However, that being said, i must agree that the new m240i looks very good. People overblow how bad it looks. Although tbh i think the m240i looks significantly better than the new m2
just reading this, gives me such happiness, i am one of of those few you have seen on the road, white BMW M240IX and it is everything you dream of and then some, its such a great car for MSRP 54k, an absolute steal
@@theFORZA66 it looks and is significantly better for its price point
@@MiccoPower it’s going in my list of the greatest cars BMW has made prize point wise, for that much performance and tuning potential? It’s definitely a steal
Congrats on the M2, such a damn good car!
Today I learned that God blarg is a fellow car enthusiast.
Nice
Blarg??? Didn't expect to see you here
It doesnt even have a proper M engine wtf it s not good at all.If it was the m2 comp instead well yes you re right
I'd say the major ingredients a used BMW M car is always missing is reliability and cost of ownership. Still a nice car though, as long as you have the budget and time to maintain it. The way he treats it in this video is, I hope, not the way he always drives it or it won't last a year.
@@Beer_Dad1975 Luckily the N55 OG M2 is pretty solid and devoid of major issues so far in its lifecycle.
That being said, I agree with the anxiety of owning an M used, which is why buying new with their cheap extended 5 year warranty is an attractive deal for new over used.
Congratulations on the new Ride Thomas 🎉🚗 it's not always about the power and the top speed it's more about how that car makes you feel 🔥
Tbf it will depreciate better being an m car as well
Pay 1200$ extra for a downpipe+93 tune and it makes 460hp 460tq so if he ever gets bored there are options.
a few bolt on parts and a tune and good warm day and the M2 will wreck it in everything
@@AK47s4EveryOne Maybe on the Track. The B58 in the M240 responds much better to just bolt ons than the N55. To outperform the B58 you have to get the S55 in the M2 Comp if you compare tuned cars.
@@olliewells7437 also being a much better looking car
You guys have no idea how much I love this channel and addicted to it. The way you guys communicate with us and cars make me feel like you are my brothers even though I am from India and you guys are from Canada and US. I dont think I have ever watched a better car channel than this ever. Love you guys. And I know its late but congratulations on you new M2. I wish you guys could buy more are more exciting cars in the future.
Also one of the best part of TH is its intro. You never fail in it. Each video makes me happier.
A Big FAN of Throttle House.
DAMN. Didn't expect that initial race to be that much of a gap session.
X-drive does that
...but, at the end of the day, which one would you rather be in? I don't live my life one 1/4 mile at a time, so I would prefer the car that has better feel and sense of being. If you need AWD (xDrive), then at least you know your car is fast, but does it reward the driver or does it feel numb....
@@K03sport 💯👀👋😎 Different drivers, Different rewards... As long as it isn't self driving!
@@K03sport I’d rather be in the XDrive
@@K03sport you don't live your live by the 1/4 day but u live sliding it doing Donuts and driving around? Huh? The m2 feels just like m240i when driving around normal, to really feel the difference you need to push it hard and around corners
"I think I bought the right car, for my purposes anyways". Probably the best thing I have heard on a car review in a long time. There will always be faster, but when a car makes you smile and brings a joy back back to driving, that is the car to own, no matter what to is. Congrats on the amazing car! - Kevin M2C manual Alpine White
I've always said that also. Don't need to be the fastest. Just need to make you happy and smile. Yes that is the best line I've heard to and completely agree. We all look for something paticular In cars. Also, M2C manual, beautiful. Great choice! 👌. Niewissen, e46 zhp (2005), e90 m3, e60 m5 (possibly sold), e70 x5 msport tuned. Not sure what to replace the m5 with but now your comment has me thinking.....a M2 of any sort be nice lol
@@niewissen9912 Very nice nie, long live the BMW fan boys and girls! In the winter I roll with a 08 535ix wagon, also manual of course. Thinking of selling though due to the craziness in the market.
@@kevinp4103 I bought a 2008 535XiT/6MT M-sport ,Titanium silver over Schwartz last year for a christmas present to myself, 1 of 3 in North America in it's spec.
It would be hard for me to replace it with anything else.It's basically a modern german equivalent version of a Autech Stagea 260RS.
@@chriserz94 Holy smokes, you have a really fantastic car! That is some Christmas presents! Thanks for the heads up about the Nissan, I did not know they existed as I just started getting into the wagon fandom.
Congratulations Thomas! Hard work truly does pay off. Thanks for the great video boys!
Thomas’s energy when he is talking about his car and what he is going to do to it is genuine car guy moves. The first thing you do is work out the build list in your head, good times!
Yeah the OG M2 will be an item in the years to come. It looks just the way a special project car should look, coming from the M division. I mean it has M4 suspension under the body, it has the DCT from the M5 and has a track spec N55 engine with the trick oiling system from the S55. Plus, it also has something most car do not, a glorious howl from the quad pipes.
the M2 is garbage. If you want to own the slowest M car go ahead and be my geust buy it. The M240 also comes in diesel which is far superior to the gaser. As for the M2 being special, you are completely wrong. The 1M is the special car and will go up in price the M2 will cotinue to be a joke.
Your manner is a little crude and your opinion is a bit suspect but be that as it may. My only real thought on your comment is that…..you made your comment.
@@Devil_Dog_Ultra eh
@@Devil_Dog_Ultra E30 M3 is the slowest but carry on
@@Devil_Dog_Ultra considering the m2 is faster than the 1m think your talking rubbish.
Taking a step back from the beloved 2 series, let’s take a moment to appreciate the production quality and cinematography that really makes TH stand out. Well done!
Loved this video. You guys helped me decide to trade in my S4 manual for an M2 Comp, so awesome to see Thomas got one too (minus the comp). Sad though about the backseat on the new 2, as it was one of the clinchers as the M2 is actually way more adult room than my 2015 S4. Probably means I'm sticking with my f87 for quite a while
This YoutTube show is fantastic, their camaraderie feels so entertaining and genuine, the same kind feels you get from watching the old Top Gear show with Jeremy, Richard, & James. I hope it lasts for many years to come.
There should be a comparison between James’s S4 and Thomas’s M2 it would be crazy to see that video
Would love to see that but I think they're too different to make a real comparison video about
@@the-boring-car-guy agreed. Two different types of people buying an M2 or S4
They did compare Jame’s Miata and Thomas’s E46 M3 before and even Type R and Mustang, so hopefully not out of the realm of possibility cus I really wanna see it.
@@the-boring-car-guy Extra Throttle house is there for a reason.
@@n.naovaratpong2700 both rwd, manual sports cars.
That 2018 M2 is seriously one of the best looking cars at ANY angle! Congrats Thomas 👏 I'm totally jelly
I’m sorry but the faces James makes when he’s drifting is comedy gold 😂
The Way Thomas rants about his car!! Pure gold!!
It is wonderful to see it happen to someone who did all the work and knows each and everything they put into it and explain it to another person!!
I think this is the first time we’ve ever seen James’s drifting face. Looks sorta like his girlfriend just asked him why he can’t come to date night.
You guys are the absolute greatest reviewers on this platform. All the accolades to both of you, and the whole team behind.
I'm so glad Thomas got an M2, he's one of the people who truly deserve a car like that. Good for you man, so happy for you.
Why does he truly deserve it? Because he really liked the car and because he has a CZcams channel? I really want a brand new rs3..do I deserve to get it? I'm just breaking your balls..
I think we are kinda entering an era where drag races and track times mean nothing for how fun a car is. I hate saying that because I always complain about how little power a miata and brz have...but honestly I think once your car goes under 5 seconds to 60 the rest doesn't matter besides its fast enough and the only real factor from there is feel. I'd rather drive a 5 second fun car than a sub 3 second hypercar that just digitizes the experience
Feel the same way, am quiet annoyed at the whole HP War and the "My car needs to go 0-60 in under 2 seconds crap"
I remember reading an article that claimed the perfect power level for enjoyment on public roads would be between 300 and 400 hp. I think thats probably true aslong as the car isn’t massively heavy
@@zXPeterz14 agreed. Way more fun to drive a "slow" analog car at 9/10ths than some 700hp at 4/10ths, half throttle, and is completely digital and techy
100% agree. Once the car is quick, focus on making it lively.
2019+ Miata ND2 is not slow at all, it's perfect.
Thomas & James - I just want to congratulate you on building such an amazing channel. I envy you guys because I to am a SERIOUS car enthusiast and I had always wanted to build a channel like this but could never get a good partner to commit to start it with me. You guys filled the spot and you are doing a phenomenal job in what is my absolute DREAM JOB!
I watch EVERY video you guys post AND I also just purchased a barely used (8,200 mile) Hockenheim silver metallic M2 cs (6MT). I went "full fat" on the M2 and I am un the US and my car was actually imported from Canada! After I saw the video you guys posted on the M2 cs a year or so back and then after seeing this video, a few years back I set a goal to get one and I just took delivery last week. It is the car of my dreams, perfect in every way, mind the diaper exhaust which is already on order to be changed. Look for videos about my M2 cs on my channel posted soon!
Been waiting for this video. Appreciate you guys for putting this together!
The M2 is a future classic definitely the right choice
It's already is.
Agreed. Same as the M140i. If you have one of either, keep it!
The M2 comp is a classic not this M2 with the N55 motor...
@@ianthayer8688 that’s why I got the 240
@@ianthayer8688 there’s nothing wrong with the N55 it’s still a quick engine, and it sounds a lot better than the S55
And I’m James 😎
And I’m batman..
And we're going for a drive
You made the right decision mate! Im still shocked about the fact that the rear seats have less space, since the car has growth (same platform as 3 & 4 series). I love my M2c and was wondering in 2020 if o should pull the trigger or wait for the next gen, so glad I didn't :D I think you're gonna love it even more when you have upgraded the Exhaust and the tires (i love the PS4S). Cheers mate! PS: the both of you make really entertaining Vids, keep on!
You cannot beat the feeling of a rear wheel drive/front engine setup!! Love awd too but the balance of a rwd/front engine car just rotates so well! That engine note is absolutely divine!
I agree. And I recently read some good news from BMW. Starting in 2023, the 240i will have a rear wheel option! that drops the cars weight by 200lbs!
I mean... I was excited to see that Thomas just bought himself an M2, but then he made a shout-out to Alex from Car Throttle and I lost my mind! These are my two favourite car channels... any chance you could figure out a collab? 😁
Throttle house is better
@@kadenw968 TH is much, much, much better.
@@kadenw968 They're both great but in my opinion Car Throttle is more entertaining
They have collaborated in an old video I think so. Alex was a part of one of their intro bits but I am not fully sure
That'd be dope
I would still take that M2 over any other BMW currently on the market. They hold their value so well.
I’d take a m4 or m5 over it
@@texasstreetkings537 Must like driving in a straight line... Might as well get a tesla...
Yep specially Thomas M2 with the N55 engine
@@shrayesraman5192 bro what are you talking about LOL, m4 and 5 are more handling oriented than the m2
@@zn-n what u been smoking? In what world can the m4 a luxury grand tourer and the m5 a luxury sedan compete with the m2? A small light weight coupe? Honestly don't even understand the appeal of the m4...
Your intros are so cool and the content is on another level, for that you just gained yourself a new subscriber.
2018 M2 owner here. I ordered mine with the MP exhaust with the little bluetooth controller. Definitely scares the neighbors worth it. Skip the MP steering wheel unless you like thumb cramps. Mine shipped with the Continentals. Swapped over to the Michelin PS4S after two years and it was transformative to say the least. I wish I had driven it straight to the tire store from the dealer at delivery. Congrats on the M2. Identical spec to mine. Looks like you lucked out and landed one without a sunroof as well.
Holy crap... That cinematic sequence in the warehouse was just beautiful. Congrats on the new car, Thomas! And thanks for another great video.
With those cinematic shoots it makes you guys the Top Gear of CZcams, hands down
Another great comparison...keep up the awesome work, guys!
Films are getting so so sick boys, keep it up!
Theses intros get better and better
Congrats on the M2 Thomas!!✨
Ridiculous how vehicle prices keep escalating.
Excellent fun video guys! It made me subscribe, you guys are good.
Looks so beautiful ripping around those corners Thomas … congratulations 🎉 🍾
In ten years: 1.) the M cars will have held their value 2.) the 2018 gauges will be held in much higher regard in terms of aesthetic design. 3.) The manual transmission will be more highly sought after. 4.) the blue color will be more desirable then the "purple" of the non-m car. Good purchase Thomas.
M240 is technically “m”
@@codskilclanchannel6420 Yeah but it does have the rear lights of a Fiat Tipo and the front of a Wish Miata...
I don't know how they manage it but BMW has been consistently churning out increasingly uglier cars than their previous generation counterparts.
@@ssmith3070 previous generations all cars looked a like especially with those double circle DRLs but now every car looks different in their own bad looking way
@@747simmer4 Yeah...I guess this is still an improvement over the M3 but damn if it isn't bland.
In ten years: Thomas won't own this car.
I think cars have hit a point where they’re all fast and they’re hitting a point where they’re all competing over specs no normal person will attempt on the road. So all the other bits and bobs like technology, comfort + fun are a HUGE factor for me now.
There is a huge amount of depth you are completely missing out on. Starting from mentality of the people who build the cars (Japan/Germany/US/UK/Italy etc), to history of the companies and what they represent and what they strive for in the future, to the way each car feels when you actually sit (and then drive) in it - taking into consideration other points I just said - and ending with such "trivialities" as to how much a certain company can achieve based on their budget, (perceived) level of performance and quality, reliability, etc., etc., etc. What you are saying is basically - if there are ten outwardly equal types of bread at the grocery store, I'll take the one which has the packaging paper decorated with gold lines, instead of silver circles. Based on that, a more viable option might be a train or a bus - or start to gather knowledge and understanding of what you want to drive... Unless it's just a device which happens to be on wheels for you, but then be prepared not to end up in a satisfactory relation with that "device".
@@JurisKankalis you’re talking like a car enthusiast. I am your average consumer. I have no badge loyalties (except Toyota and their history of tough cars) and only slight knowledge of the history of certain cars. When I’m looking at cars - if they’re all similar specs, you can be sure as hell I’m going to buy the car with the most bits and bobs. I chose a Hyundai over a Toyota purely because Toyota tech is crap compared to other cars of similar value.
@@PukingPanda you make a good point. I think the automotive industry and most that cover cars tend to focus so much on going fast and doing donuts. When in reality, the vast majority of people that buy cars don't care about any of that stuff. They want something reliable with good tech.
A think you make a very good point that most people don't need the best performing car. All they need is a car that get them from point a to b. However, there is many people out there that want to have fun in a car and even have a form of connection to it. That's why they say cars are "babies". A lot of people care for them like that. That's who these cars are made for.
@@nikolasbergeron9989 yeah. I agree with you! Especially when it comes to anything from BMW with an M in the name. I’ve driven the M2 Comp and it’s definitely the purest M car in the lineup. I just thought it was refreshing to see a normal comment from a typical car buyer. Cheers!
Thanks guys, made my day better with this video!
X-delete allows you to switch to full rear wheel drive. If given the change between any BMW with an X-drive option, I'll choose it every time over the RWD version.
but the m240i has no LSD so you will be slower in every turn and cant get the power down, when you tune it. the x delete makes pretty much everythings worse. same weight, slower cornering and not traction. just get a M with a proper diff instead.
@@FutureGameLightI'm referring to the utility of an AWD system. If given the option between two nearly identical cars with the only difference being x-drive, I'll take awd every time. You get the best of both worlds at the expense of some added weight. In my opinion, the extra utility of having awd makes up for the extra weight.
@@FutureGameLight the M340 has a rear M sport diff but M240 doesnt?
@@u07t17 M sport, not the same diff as the full M cars
Just wow. You guys are killing it! Makes me happy to witness the progress you've made: from narration and video quality, to choice of cars and staging. Best car geek channel on YT for sure.
The M2 is truly one of the best cars I’ve ever driven by far, I’ve already set my goals to buy one as my next car
Did you buy it?
Awesome video. Very informative and entertaining …. that’s a a big point of difference to most other reviews. Love the B58. It could be seen, further down the line, to be BMW’s best engine … or close to it.
Bought one as well 2 months ago and it surprises me more every day I drive it.
Also bought an manual OG M2 this year, such a fantastic car ❤️
Same here, I bought a long beach blue OG M2 the only thing I wish it had is a 6MT, I spent 6 months looking for one with a manual transmission but I never found one so back in May finally I made the decision to get the DCT, it may not be as fun as the manual M2 but it still is some hell of a car
@@AlexRYT has one advantage, you can shift while drifting :)
Yuri from @TheStraightPipes: "What is the recommended Continental tire for it?"
Throttle House: "None of them!" 😁
Great review!
Great shots at the beginning guys
"I'm really not impressed with the Continental tyres, they're very mediocre"... Are you saying that The straight pipes are recommending us to buy bad tyres? 😁
I was looking for this comment 🤣
Immediately thought of that after his laugh
@@max12337 same haha
lol they are mediocre not bad. Michelins will always be the best
Felt like a direct attack lol. To be fair, it's good to be able be to say things like that. Contis are generally good, even for the price, but rarely the best.
Always appreciate how straight forward you guys are, buying the car you like for yourself instead of something for youtube clout
man the quality on these videos
Love the comparison, subbed!
I've given up on the idea of trying to have the fastest car, there is always a faster car. So, it's about enjoying what you're driving. Performance numbers are part of that equation, but not the only thing. I remember driving the 2020 M235i and didn't think it would ever be mistaken for a rear wheel drive based, though, and while I can't speak to the new M240i, I'm not sure it really would feel RWD when pushed.
Turner or some company like that has software for x-drive cars where BMW prevents "drift mode", to re-enable the feature and make it RWD when you want. I'm sure the new M240i will qualify for that.
I agree wholeheartedly. If you want numbers, buy a Tesla Plaid and call it good. Insane acceleration, but a sterile driving experience.
@@idokwatcher2062 it's called Dyno mode and you can enable it through a hidden car menu anyways :P
Man, you guys just keep getting better and better. This may be your best work yet! Thanks for doing what you do. Signed, a longtime fan down in Atlanta, Georgia.
I have a 23 M240i and I absolutely love it. A few people who have been able to dyno these cars have said they got around 380 to the wheels so they severely undersold this car.
That's a very BMW thing. Their cars always produce more than advertised.
I saw a video that shows more, 408 to the wheels
you staged it yet?
@callumbackhouse4769 not yet. I'm just going to go with JB4, Dinan exhaust & intake and maybe a downpipe in the spring.
Hey Thomas, i just wanted to follow up with an update, i picked up my very own 2018 BMW M2 last week ,6 Speed manual, with 20k miles, in sapphire black, all thanks to you i've been inspired to pick up my very own, and i've got to say i absolutely love the car, even in its stock form it sounds so good, i'm glad that you both made this video otherwise i dnt think i would've built up the courage to get one of these, and honestly so happy with my choice!
The M2 is an absolute beauty compared with the new 2 series. As a BMW owner I demand to fire the current design team completely.
As a BMW owner, I second that notion as well #F36
5 series 2022 is very beautiful though, i think m5 cs is the most beautiful sedan right now
@@LvivFan too bad it has mk 7.5 golf headlights
I've never been a fan of the BMW past 2010 but now they are just plain ugly. They used to be so classy.
Totally agree. Can't afford a BMW but I absolutely love(d) the brand. The only decent looking car they've put out in the past 3 years has been the M5 CS. The M3 and M4 would be fine without that hideous grille. Even the new M2 looks god awful. It looks like they styled it after a Mustang of all things.
Congrats on the new BMW M2 Thomas.
I also can't wait to see you guys compare your M2 to the Next Gen M2 when it comes out
Congratulations on your new car Thomas, love it! 🙂
Dam been watching you since you had the e46 325i and only a few thousand subscribers. Congrats on all the accomplishments to a whooooooping 1.7m subcribers :) and the m2!
Congrats Thomas ! As an OG LCI owner for the last two years, this is an amazing and fun car! I agree with the exhaust. I upgraded to a M performance exhaust with carbon fiber tips and it has be awesome!
BMW straight 6s gets more powerful with every generation. Doesn’t even the X3 m40 push 4.5 seconds to 60? I still prefer the looks of the older 2 series. 8:36 mark had me lmao. 🤣 This was a phenomenal episode, TH team.
BMW's B58 is a straight-up gem of a motor. Every car they put it in becomes a proverbial monster. Yet somehow BMW tuned it to be docile when not driven hard, as well. It's a magical combination of refinement and excitement.
They're getting more powerful but at the cost of slight turbo lag. Comparing my N55 m135i with tune vs my 444HP S55 M2CS, the latter doesn't hit hard torque until about 1k RPM higher. The N55 has nearly instant torque in any rev, the M2 needs to be above 3k, though it does have a higher red line.
Not a bad compromise for over 100HP/100ft/lb+ more without a warranty voiding tune though IMO.
Lol that Windows XP error
Congratulations on the new wheels Thomas!
You forgot to mention that the DRL's of the new beemer looks like they came out of an audi from decade ago.
Many thanks for the video
Cheers
Loving the topgear feel on this channel lately!
I have been waiting for the moment Thomas bought an M2. You could tell every time he drove any iteration of the M2 he just loved it. As an OG M2 owner, welcome to the club!
The short Continental tire review felt directed to TheStraightPipes!! Lol
Always wanted an m2c, then this m240 came out in that thunder night purple and my god. The m240 is a chunky boy but with the tech and color I’m leaning towards that one. We shall see in a few years after I purchase a house what I can afford. Love the video and cars guys well done!
You guys helped me pull the trigger on my own m2 over the 240i. James was right about the big grin being the biggest difference.
Thomas seems so genuinely happy during this entire video, you can see it in his eyes. Such a stunning car. So happy for him to finally have one of his own! ❤️❤️❤️
The quality of yalls videos just keep getting better and better! Love this channel. The purple pocket rocket looks awesome. Nobody buys a coupe for a backseat. Its a non factor for me.
Congrats on the m2! I have one myself and put the m performance exhaust on and am 1000% glad I did, would recommend to you as well!
Great video; sitting the same OG M2 in LBB colorway but crying in DCT - really wish there was a manual available at the time 🤕
I wrote it under another video and I am writing it now here. The level of your production, editing, script, presentation and the chemistry between the presenters heave reached the best years of TOP GEAR with the Clarkson-Hammond-May trio. Seriously!
Absolutely 🤌🏼🔥 It was nostalgic when u mentioned the top gear legendary trio 🥺
Your videos were actually part of what actually convinced me to get a M2C. Feels like the last of the nice looking BMWs and I just like the F87 design. Manual as well of course. With traction control off the car feels scary, like I have to tame it. I drive it every chance I get.
Are you afraid of the spun hub issue with your S55 engine?
Thomas got the perfect spec OG M2! Congrats!
Enjoyed this video! Can you also consider doing a comparison video of m240i vs m340i
Wow... major burn on the Continental tires... or is that a major burn of the Straight Pipes (who are sponsored by Continental)?
Thought the same
What would be the Continental recommended tire?
It’s certainly both! TH gets Michelin as a sponsor regularly, so it’s that as well.
Maybe Michelin will come calling now. Joe Achilles has a solid partnership with them. Gotta be great to be backed by the best.
Pretty obvious burn of TSP. Not sure why there is so much beef between them. I would love to see some collaboration but it probably never happen. Anyways, back to the studio.
Congratulations Thomas! Also just got an 18 OG M2 in LBB in manual earlier this year (from a A90 Supra) because of your reviews from 2017. Ironically, it's an upgrade from the BRZ because it's practical, manual, and still has analog aspects but more power and a stronger motor. An excellent choice! The M2 starter pack is swapping out the charge pipe, I'm also getting the same Apex wheels (for track, non-staggered) in 18" but in anthracite, because the bronze just doesn't work with the lighter blue. They are still doing a group buy on it until the end of the year I think. It needs nothing else but bitier front pads. Check out Apex Nurburg's recent kinematics mods for suspension choices. Absolutely love it. I hope you love yours! Congrats again!
Great car Thomas!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I just ordered a 2023 M2. I can't wait for her to arrive.
I see a Throttle House video, I watch the ads. Supporting good content and hopefully helping pay for that M2 (and Miata)! Congrats! 👏👏
Thomas you are a true bmw m enthusiast. Happy to see a person likes his car so much..keep going
The closer we get to an EV world, the more apparent that the experience is more important than being the stoplight king. IMHO- but I’m Wombat…
BIG FACTS! THE SOUND, THE SMELLS ETC.
You people are going to hate me for this comment, but there is nothing preventing a car manufacturer from attaching a resonator to the subframe and putting a stick shift and clutch pedal in an EV. BMW already synthesizes engine sounds. Why not BS the entire experience? haha
Exactly. Look at it this way. Why do these older Gen people spend hundreds of thousands on classic cars that are slow as balls? It’s for the same reasons. It’s the experience they remember having in them.
@@1MTEK the moment an EV car does that, I’ll remember your comment, but I would put my money in it that that will never happen. Doesn’t mean they couldn’t. Just means they wouldn’t, because why…
Go ride a horse slower alway sucks
Awesome review! Will you be doing an episode on why Thomas chose the LCI vs the M2 Comp?
Super review. Thanks you for not comparing everything to the e46 M3. I enjoyed my OG M2 for the most part. It drove excellently once it was moving. Like my F80, it NEVER hooked up no matter which tires it had. The interior should have been better---eclipsed by the M240's. So, I bought an X3M Comp. It solved everything, but now leases for $1400/mo. and not matter how insanely fast it is, it feels SUV-heavy. That said, I miss cars. I miss cheap leases. For $60K loaded w/ xDrive and performance wheel pkg, the M240 is magic (I'll yield a few hundred lbs for xDrive, because I live in the North Pole). Plus, even as a brand new chassis, unlike the X1, i7, it has a shifter and iDrive roller. Also, an active suspension, excellent interior, M boost, gets awesome mpg, has autopilot, has the real B58. The single drawback is two doors, and only two dash trim options.
My next car will be the M240, because I hate the M3 grill and the S58 mpg (10mpg in sport+), and the $60K M240 leases for about $800. Wish I could afford an M8 GC. But alas, even a new $90K X3M Comp now leases at $1400 (Thank you Janet Yellin). It also gets 10mpg in Sport+ mode. Forget that. I'll buy a house instead, and never carry adult passengers in the back seat.
Congrats on the acquisition Thomas! I hope you enjoy yours for your use case. Another super fun video. Also had no idea the new M240 was quite so... corpulent.
Nice choice Thomas! My vote is to return the front plate to stock position. Also, not sure why BMW continually bloats their models as time passes on. Grows on the outside, at the same time reducing interior room. Curious choices. My E39 M5 weighs around the same as a new 2 series. Insane.
The warehouse footage is so spectacular …. Wow …. I want to bring my car and all future cars there for photo sessions …
Waithing for that video of the M2 upgrades! Chop chop!
Love it guys! Keep up the good work!
You haven't even watched the whole video yet... It's a minute old and your comment is 2 minutes old....
@@erikhuisman2487 don't be mad I beat you to it
That was definitely an awesome episode.
The whole time near the end I was wondering why James was so fixated with the rear seat headroom, but then I realized hey, he’s just a considerate dude. 100% Canadian now.
I see you with that jab at the Continental tires... ;)
Beautiful and wonderful daily driver, the M2. Congratulations!
6:54 I can't stop replying that shot...Perfection