2021 BMW M3 vs The Cheapest E90 BMW M3 You Can Buy
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The 2021 BMW M3 ($96,150 CAD, ~$81,750 USD as specced) and the 2008 E90 BMW M3 ($22,995 CAD $18,233 USD) share a day at the Throttle House Test Track. How far has the M3 come since the V8 generation, and does the new G80 platform provide similar thrills? Watch to find out! SUBSCRIBE!!!
A massive thank you to the one and only Brett @shushiy_ for allowing us to feature his E90 M3. Thank you also to the team @detailed.a.f for getting it camera ready so quickly! Also to @adrena.garage for getting the stock suspension on in time for this video
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Honestly can’t believe the E9X generation M3 is now 14 years old, it still looks so beautiful till this day.
Meh, the e92/3 looks fantastic, the 91 looks good, but i think the e90 saloon looks somewhat boring
E9X looks better than anything they make nowadays
I would love to have one if I just had more self control.
Won’t be able to say the same about the G80 in 14 years
Looks almost as good as my e46 ;). I'd take the e90 here, esp. at the price point!
The fact that bmw is still putting manual transmissions in their cars just makes he happy
It shouldn’t. Have you ever driven a 3900lb car ? Driving a manual boat isn’t the greatest imo. I’m always for manual but this next gen needed dct and awd. They’re as big and heavy as old 6/7 series
@@5abivt Motortrend weighed the new M3 comp with bucket seats and carbon ceramic brakes and it weighed 40kg less than the Alfa Romeo Giulia Quadrifoglio. So you can expect this M3 with the lighter manual gearbox and heavier seats and brakes to weigh identical to the Giulia, if not a smidge less.
You can thank Europe
@@5abivt weighed in at 3,745 per Motortrend
Wish they still put it in 3 n 4 series
It's not an old M3 without a CEL 😂
show em that infiniti boss
CSL
Exhaust mod…
@@Ont785 it’s stock
@@benjaminshort3590
In the clip he says it had exhaust modifications…
I’ve driven almost every manual bmw there’s ever been other than the rare ones. The only car that had me obsessed after driving it was the e90 generation m3, a month ago i bought one myself and i couldn’t care less how much heavier or slower it was it had the soul. This is a great video that shows that feeling even for people who can’t feel it themselves.
For me it's the e46 csl, that was such a physical, visceral experience typically reserved for much smaller and lighter cars.
I recently purchased a 335d which honestly has similar figures to the m3 and I absolutely love it. No V8 sounds but I get the big turbo whistle 😂
Your thought about a 325i e90 ? Performance? handling? compared to the m3?
@@alnilam8048don’t get that
@@krspykreame1 Not just similar figures, I'd bet it's faster than the M3. That being said, you can't begin to understand how much less character it has than the M3. Drive the two back to back, and you'll see exactly what I mean.
Thanks so much for having my car on guys!
BTW FOR THE CEL, it’s cat deleted, hence the light guys😂
So many uneducated "car people" that don't know this it boggles my mind.
You have some good taste ;)
Thanks again you absolute hero. One of the coolest owners we’ve had the pleasure of working with!!!
*deletes comment comparing that gauge cluster to a Christmas tree* Dude if it weren’t for the headache of import laws I’d 100% buy your car. Well taken care of!
I scanned the comments before mentioning the CEL light. I assumed Thomas broke it while he was vigorously worshipping the almighty M3.
This is getting ridiculously close to OG Top Gear levels of perfection. Absolutely brilliant.
I was thinking that, too. Well done, gents!
I've been saying that for over a year. Totally agree, the crew put out a great show(s) each week.
I dare say it’s better.
@@effa114 It's less pretentious than Top Gear. Both shows are/were great, just with different demeanors. The camerawork will take a bit more to come to Top Gear levels, though, which is understandable considering the budget differences.
No, they think too much about what other people will think don't speak their mind as much
Drove my '09 M3 as a daily for 6 years. Absolutely love the car! So much connection, so planted and confident. Drive my F80 as a daily now, but still bring out the e90 for the most fun.
Did you do any preventative maintenance on the m3, any issues?
This video really conveys how special the E90 m3 is. That S65 motor is just emotional. Turbo engines, although quicker ,just don't give the same feeling of sheer joy.
That isn’t exactly true. The 2016 BMW 340i was pretty damn special and felt more enjoyable than my naturally aspirated 323i.
@@patrickbateman6885 the 323i had no power...apples and oranges
Nah that’s personal. I’ve driven these but you have to rev the snot out of them to move and I just don’t like that for a weekend warrior. I gets my kicks out of in-line 6 engines with turbos and open wastegates, preferably big single turbo ones as in the Supra I own. They still make their power way quicker, and really sound like a jet.
You can TELL their production value has gone up, the first 3 minutes are pure awesomeness
Also see the last 5 seconds
It’s funny how common this comment is, on all there other videos 😂
the first 26:44 incredible 😰
I prefer the earlier stuff. M54's n shit.
Yeah your mom jokes are not cheap
The V8 M3 just hits different. Sure it’s not that fast but my goodness the sound and insane redline is enough for me!
Plus the throttle response is just unmatched compared to the turbo motors.
Agree. No torque until 5,000 but it sounded so good and revved so high
You say that but for being heavier with 100 less hp and almost 200 less torque it wasn't that far off in the drag race.
As a former owner of many bmw's, i agree but getting anywhere near the red line scared me as i was afraid of breaking something
Yeah agree. And how much power does someone need!
Awesome video guys! Such a good comparison that really works. Also glad to see the e9x M3 performing so well against the latest M3 in the fun department, it definitely does get the love it deserves amongst other M cars. Love my e92 M3 it’s such a special car!
this channel is way better than the new top gear
Great video 🔥🔥🔥 I laughed out loud when I saw the E90 Check engine light 😂
Lol so on brand for BMW
From my experience with BMW, it seems it is an indication, that the engine is ON 😂
Would it be a BMW without the check engine light on tho.? 😂
Cat delete is why it’s on
Yeah the guy selling it said he isn't gonna charge extra for the CEL.
Can’t be a BMW episode without at least one check engine light 😂😂😂
And it's for the good reasons too
It’s modified. Should be on.
Never seen the engine light on in my 2011 323i LCI in all my 9 years of ownership.
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
@@patrickbateman6885 really? Need more responsible owners like you
Still in love with the e90. Absolutely LOVE that car. For a true driving enthusiast, it’s such an amazing DD.
Fantastic review guys. Amazing driving and production value. You make Canada proud!
YES! TWO YEARS OF WAITING AND FINALLY A THROTTLE HOUSE “YOUR MOM” SKIT. I can now die peacefully.
Yes! All this channel needed was more "Your Mom" jokes... We want more!
The Change my Mind meme had me rollin. That was legitimately funny.
Agree!!!
Crowder bits lol
@@bearpaw7603 at least they are drifting instead of grifting
That was so well done. I never saw it coming, yet it was so on-point. I literally laughed out loud.
Nailed it!!!!!
Yo the production levels are getting really good. keep up the amazing work
A 2008 is pretty easy to retrofit with the newer idrive, which gets you a high res display and bluetooth audio. Also lets you install one of the Chinese carplay/android auto retrofit kits.
That V8 in the E90 is just glorious. Makes the I6 sound tame
BMW just needs to tweak the stereo a little for better engine sound.
S65 sound great until you hear a S54 with a carbon airbox
@Shift4g Until you hear the S65 with a carbon plenum. 🤤
@@Shift4g Try the s65 with a carbon plenum....
@@Shift4g More like until you hear the S85! I own an E92 m3 and the sound makes me happy cry every time until I remember the sound of the S85...
I think it's time we get a "2020 Shelby GT500 vs the Cheapest Terminator Cobra You Can Buy" video
I think we have a great idea in the comment section.
I'm game
Yes sir
Omg please or 2020 GT500 vs cheapest 2013-14 Shelby GT500
@@904garage7 nah man it’s gotta be the terminator
Absolutely amazing video as always! Keep it up
Top Gear Level Filming, Keep up the good work guys!!
I love how guys got a new M3 to test and absolutely drooled about E90
Because E90 is fun as fuck to drive.
M3 is the all around better car than that ugly beater car
I find it funny that the E90 has the check engine light on.
I was gunna say that too lmao
LOL
Well...it is 13 years old. It’s expected. My old E90 had the check engine light on when it was 4 years old 😂🤷🏽♂️
i think it’s still better than the other pig
Cat delete (per owner)
Great video! Amusing, qualitative and showing the right stuff
Really wholesome seeing James near 12:30 in the video take in the moment saying "what a day". So cool to see two guys living out their dream.
Im a simple man. I see a throttle house video, I tap the thumbs up.
You are so funny, har har har.
You mean simp man
@@jimmymccain4580 it wasn't supposed to make you laugh anyway.
I'm a simple man. I see this beaten-to-death format and smash the downvote. 👎
@@bootneylee9802 I found negative Nancy again
These guys are the modern-day top gear change my mind. All that's left is a trans-canada road trip episode
Zzz noob
Top Gear- what do the Brits know about cars? Sure not how to make them lol. The whole thing smelled like a paid ad.
@@bojangles6444 as a Brit, all I can say is ‘ouch’ 😂
@@twinshorts4088 come on man you know you aren’t picking up the tata motors jag and any day soon lol. Get it for the commute to work- don’t have to work much longer lol. When I was a kid someone’s parents had one that was brand new and pure smoke leaking out the muffler. The engine was prob on fire lol
@@bojangles6444 😂😂😂 thats jokes, I stick to my German cars got an e90 myself
I’ve rewatched this a few times and after 10 years of E92 ownership - I love the fox red leather, I replaced the start/stop button, did an Apple car upgrade and I will never ever sell this again (again). I sold it and bought it back after and F80. Also - no creaks and rattles and the 2013. Great video. The first one was a garage queen. Second purchase - drove cross country twice
Still one of my favorite cars ever...E9x M3!! Great video guys, keep it up!
Me: imma go to sleep
Throttle House: uploads
Me: alright i’m not going to sleep
did the same
Just go to sleep and stfu. 🖕
@@bootneylee9802 sounds like you had a rough night with the boys
@@bootneylee9802 Wow, you're so friendly.
@@scottlauren3145 lol... it's the internet Scott, that's what we do! My initials are GY, lol.
You give us insanely good quality content for free. That's respectable and I hope it stays like that for long.
I respect those guys and brilliant quality but it's not free. YT has ads.
@@arpit5317 Well, it is free because viewers aren't required to pay for the show, unless you take into account the electricity bill, internet connection fee, device cost, your rent fee/house purchasing fee if you are watching at home, tax etc.
@@jkliao6486toasted his azzzz
I loved my E46 and still love my E90 M3. Great car, still fast and looks good.
Dammit, I think I've accepted the grill. The new M3 looks great in that spec (especially in manual).
Love the manual V8 though too.
After watching a few videos, I’ve come to the realisation that the grill doesn’t look so bad as long as there is a front number plate
Great film guys! Beautifully shot and presented.
Facts
Somehow the first 5 minutes made me suddenly fall in love with the E90 M3
Glad you guys made this video, just bought an e92 m3 6 days ago!
Keep up the solid work TH! Love these retrospective review, so many great cars at affordable
prices that are often overlooked because people want the latest and greatest.
Would love to see one for the G37 and Q60 coupe if your planning another one of these,
the Q60 is due for a refresh in the next year or so but the engine is a nice sample of whats
to come with the 400Z.
The transition between talking about the car and doing the drag race deserves an *Oscar* .
I mean, you gotta factor in the price of an aftermarket bumper for that new M3 too
I actually like the new M3 and M4, probably because it looks like a 2000s era Pontiac and I like 2000s Pontiac’s
Prior Design took care of that cancer.
@@m3technologies236 YES! Their aftermarket bumper cover option looks sick! Hoping to see some out on the road with the Prior front end.
BMW is stupid for not offering one. They knew the design would irk people, but every time they speak on it, they claim it’s “Progression.” No, it’s Asian market appeal, and you idiots could’ve made a fortune on a alternative bumper offering.
@@80PercentAshamedOfU Asians won't buy much of those M3/4s simply due to the high initial price tag and taxes... plus big grill is never a feature for Asia markets.
If anything, this video just makes me want an E90 M3 even more. Beautiful sound, amazing looks, surprisingly practical.... Someday.
The old car is so much better looking on the front end. The interior on the new one is fantastic.
I’ll give one thing to the new M3,
That two tone black and orange interior is to die for. With a 6 speed? Looks like something off of a cover of a car and driver magazine.
E90/92 best MODERN m3 ever. hydraulic steering and a engine that actual sounds like an engine should.
It’s going to be a classic, give it 15 years...
@@Procur3 ill buy a m3, im actually getting my first real job when im 14, it pays 15$ hour so in like less than a year ill have a m3, im currently 13 but ill turn 14 this year in october, i love cars btw
It really doesn’t drive as well as an E46, great car though.
@@vambat3523 speaking from experience here. Keep working and keep your eye on the prize. You will 100% get it if you save and be smart. $15 an hr at 14 is a goldmine. You can be decently rich by the time ur 18 if you save most of your money.
I would love to see a generational review and TH take on the m3. Just cause it’s such an iconic brand and yea it’s been done a few times notably the one by everyday driver but id like it from a perspective of someone so passionate about M cars. Someone who owns one too! 🤞🏻🤞🏻
The E90 is still me favorite M3.
The sedan or coupe? There was a hard top convertible too. 4 series wasn’t a thing yet. E46 had more aggression- less rounded more old style Bmw. If it had a v8 would have been a thing to remember.
@@bojangles6444 how on earth is the E46 less rounded ?
The e9x gen of M3 is my personal favorite.
E92 M3 or E46 M3, i never really can decide which one is my fav BMW of all time. one thing is for sure: the latest M3/M4 make the previous gen even attractive.
22:10 I lost it when james said "It's been pressed more than your wife" HOT DAMN LMAO
I think that's the best line I've heard on here.
That was way too good lmao
This makes me miss my E9X. Such a balanced car. Mine was a fully loaded, space grey metallic one with oyster interior. I traded it in for a base model VW Golf as i needed something more economical.
i love these comparison videos
This is often overlooked, but the "carbon leather" in the E90 generation is actually a unique leather STAMPED with a carbon fiber pattern. You'll never see anything like it before or after. It's always either fake carbon fiber paint, plastic imitation, or on the opposite end, real carbon fiber. The fact they bothered to stamp the pattern to give it that unique aesthetic should tell all you need to know about BMW's attention to detail at the time.
If only that attention to detail went into more important things like less plastic junk in the engine bay. *sigh
@@mtadc1545the “plastic junk” you’re referring to is the air intake system (plenum and air box) which needs to be plastic so it does not heat soak. Also saves weight
@@ChewbaccaFetus the plastic junk I’m referring to are: Coolant expansion tanks (which explode), thermostats housings, water pump impellers, hose connectors and other parts in the cooling system. I’ve owned 3 of them and I’ve worked on them, stripped the engines out etc. They’re great fun to drive but have really weak quality parts.
Guys the production value is getting better and better and the already extremely strong chemistry is getting even better and funnier. Now if we could get Motor Trend on demand or any of the bigger networks to pay attention this show and yall CERTAINLY have the legs to grow popular WAY beyond this CZcams channel.
These two are one of the best car reviewers on CZcams going 😁
you cannot beat the sound of that v8
I had a dream at work today that you'd post one. Yay!!
Also, everyone knows the E92 is best M3.
Love the “bmw underates power change my mind” 😂😂
Daily a E90 328xi and its been a great car! 130k miles n X drive still performing great in the snow!
M3 E90 engine, sound, Fantastic guide. Wonderful line, I love the rear e90 lci. BMW G90 I absolutely don't like it is a truck box
That V8 sounds amazing!
This intro is madness, almost choked myself
Ikr. I'm eating dinner after work and i almost had to preform the heimlich maneuver
No that funny bro
Still the best intros in the biz.
What are the shoes James has on? They’re dope.
We need more comparison videos like this - I loved this.
5:00 That induction noise is sweeeet!
I have a (lightly modified) E92 M3, an R8 V10, and an F-Type R...and the M3 provides me just as much joy as the two cars making nearly 600HP. Absolute gem of a car.
That's a great garage!!
@@brandonpainter7085 Thank you! My wife has an F-Pace S, we use that as a daily. Another fantastic car.
Amazing garage 👌
I have watched many car reviews, track tests and videos about car comparisons. I have stuck around since this channel's early beginnings. You guys are my top car review/test/drag racing channel. Thank you ALL for such amazing content! It does NOT go unappreciated!
9:23 (Stephen Crowder!) 🤣I love these guys!
These shots are amazing!!!!!
The owner of the older M3 made a TikTok about you guys using his car. That’s so cool honestly small world in a sense video only had like 36 likes
What's the account name
@@kavishdaya2634 ^^^
Tik tok is ghey.
I like that it's fully factory stock, complete with a check engine light and everything.
I love the e90 m3. My friend who was a race instructor at Las Vegas exotic race way used to have one. I had a big turbo sti at the time and we used to mess around and swap cars all the time. His motor popped at 100k miles though due to the rod bearing issue.
Honestly guys, the Old vs New videos are my favorite!
I'm never getting rid of my e92 m3 😎
you guys have become my favourite car channel over the years. every single video of you is made in such a high quality, not only filmingwise, but also the narrative. i really appreciate the work you and the team put into producing those episodes. greetings from the other side of the planet :)
I had a buddy with an E92 M3 with the stick and that thing was awesome. I'm not a BMW guy, but I can definitely appreciate these cars
“It’s this chunky little thing of fun” 😂😂 preach on brotha
This is the exact video I've been waiting for. Thanks
3:58 the check engine light has been there for so long its just a part of the car at this point...
It will disappear eventually
It's catless headers so yeah you'll always get a cel but can be programmed out
It’s there to let you know that the check engine light works.
Intro...these guys are becoming legends 😂
E90 M3’s to this day are criminally underrated .
This video is a masterclass for all other automotive journalists on how to do their job
Out of all the channels I'm subscribed to, I don't click faster when they upload than this one!!😁
You could tell they were really happy after driving them. It was fun to listen to their excitement!
Love your videos can’t wait for a review of a 4.5L twin turbo V8 diesel Land Cruiser
You’re getting much more grille for the money with the newer model, just sayin
*sniff* do you smell that? Thats the scent of e90/e92/e93 M3's going up in value.
Yup. I treasure mine. E92 Comp- Lemans Blue
They have been for the last few years in my area, to the point where higher mileage M4s and even 1-2 owner F10 M5s are in the same price range.
Yep, nice ones are going in the 50k-60k range here in Canada.
Love your videos🤙👍
I got a 2017 320i x-drive for $24k USD and I absolutely love it. It doesn’t have allll the bells and whistles, but it’s my first bmw and it’s far and away better than anything I’ve owned before.
If there was ever to be a Top Gear Canada, this is pretty damn close. The filming and editing is phenomenal! 👏👏👏
God I love your intros! Keep up the fantastic work gentlemen! It has been so fortunate for me to find your videos before all the craziness. The humor and banter in them has really been a bright spot. Thank you both :)
These lads can drive! So good!
Aaah the warm glow of the check engine light
I feel like James took every moment he could just to flex on us, literally like flex his arms I love it 😂
The E90 M3 (especially in that spec) is the best looking car ever made! Change my mind.
Individual & comps are better lol
@@mpwrnyc Not in my opinion. Interlagos Blue is absolutely beautiful! Honestly, the pre-LCI is much better than the LCI Competition models. And I may be a little biased on this, but those 10 spoke wheels are the best!
🤣🤣🤣 i love my comp wheels 👌🏻👌🏻
@@mpwrnyc Those were actually the wheels I wanted on my car until I got a car with the 10 spokes. They're both great honestly! I do have a 335i, however, not an M3.
No one can change your opinion
Owned an E92 manual single hump. Can’t beat the screaming sound revving to 8k!
i had an e90 328i, and even tho it was an automatic, and even tho it was as STOCK AS CAN BE for the whole time i had it, it was such a fun car... favorite gen of 3 series
Same here bro…e90 328 xdrive..such a blast
I am straight up addicted to Throttle House content! The hits just keep coming
9:20 Ha the effort for those 3 seconds was worth it I laughed.
Even though that 3.0L twin turbocharged straight 6 sounds fantastic, that 4.0L N/A V8 in the E90 M3 is just something else~~ That V8 just screamsss~~ That V8 and the 5.0L V10 in the E60 M5 were some of BMW's best engines~ The E46 and E90 M3s are two of my favourite M3s and both are my favourite 3 series. I've heard from many people that they love the E90 3 series.
for the record, I don't mind the new grill of the M3/4, because the rest of the lines remind me of my grandma's pics when she was a young lass in the 40's. elegant and strong. i might have other issues, but watching James flex his biceps reminds me that others have deeper problems. cheers!