S&W M&P FPC Trigger/Hammer issue when cleaning
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- čas přidán 5. 07. 2024
- This is a video in response to the hammer going forward from a cocked position, this will make the PC inoperable. In this video, I will show you how to correct this simple issue. To avoid this issue, simply get the receiver safety in the engaged position while cleaning.
John Hansen
This literally just happened to me right now and not ever owning a carbine or any type of rifle before, this video was a godsend
Glad it helped you out! The M&P FPC is really a simple gun to take care of and use. I really like this PC.
it is you tubers like you who really help novice gun owners like me take care of my weapons. I really appreciate your content. Do not stop making videos just because you "left out" something like the safety engagement / trigger for reassembly. While it is important and probably some people were upset for the omission, we all should take responsibility for our own actions. If your not comfortable taking apart a gun, research it thoroughly before proceeding. I appreciate your posting this, it shows your integrity and honesty . I subscribed your channel because of this post.
Thank you! I do these as I can, and will continue as time permits.
Thank you. This is my first time field stripping mine as I just got it. Went straight to the range and ran 700-750 rounds though it. I did this. It won’t happen again. lol. Again, thank you. You just saved me from having to look like a dumbass and take it to the shop.
That is why it is there! :)
Thank you sir....I just picked my FPC yesterday, shot today...after watching your video...solved hammer problem thanks to you. Long life.
Watched all of your videos on the FPC. Very informative. Wouldn't know how to reset it with your video. I'm 77. Wish they had the internet when I was in my teens.
You won the internet with this video.. I was shitting my pants that I broke my gun while cleaning and I haven’t even shot once.. thank you so much.. god bless you! ❤
Glad to be of help.
First time firearms owner, haven't shot anything since I got out of the army in 1994. I made this mistake today, brand new FPC, hasn't been shot yet. I got brave and decided to check the firearm, took out the bolt and added a little oil, put back together the bolt wouldn't go in right away, so I sprung the trigger and the bolt went down, good so I thought, then the bolt wouldn't lock and I couldn't feed the mag I noticed the hammer sitting loose,, UH OH.. After reading some forum posts and then watching this video, it made sense, I just had to lock that loose hammer back to re- cock the trigger. when I reinstalled the bolt with the trigger locked properly it still wouldn't go down all the way.. seemed like it was catching on something. I gave it some force like I was going to throw the weapon forward and the bolt went down and I was able to reassemble.. good to go.. Thank you very much for this upload! Now I have a decent understanding of how triggers work because of this mistake.
Thank you. I thought I broke it. Easy fix. This is a very fun rifle to shoot. S&W hit a home run with this FPC. Accurate with my red dot at 50 yards. And easy to clean!
You're welcome. I have found that once I start going past 75 yards, the bullet drop get to be pretty significant. I pretty much stay at a mx of 50 maybe 75Y.
You should make a video about all the accessories you've put on your FPC, looks great!
I can do that, I don't have much to do this weekend!
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You just saved me $80 at Kilo Guns with this video. If you’re ever at Romans Oasis in Goodyear AZ your first drink is on me!
I know exactly where that place is! I go to that Target sometimes!
@@hollowpointdefense next time you stop by ask if Dallas is on the clock. I also teach couples dance lessons there every Saturday at 7pm till the live band starts at 9, so maybe bring the missus along for a fun date night.
I appreciate the clarification, I mistakenly let the hammer go forward and could not figure out why the mags were not loading and could see the hammer but didn't look at the bolt carrier to see that it had to be cocked back before assembly. I don't have any other firearms that will operate like this so this was a new learning experience.
I’m just glad you got it back together on your own
I saw this video when I first bought the FPC a few months back, didn't know what you were talking about, but now I do LOL. Thanks, it helped fix it.
I am uploading a new field strip video today. In which I explain how to avoid a couple mistakes when cleaning the PCC.
Thanks very much! I just ran into this issue when reassembling my FPC. YOUR VIDEO SOLVED MY PROBLEM INSTANTLY,
Glad it did. This is a very common issue.
Glad to be of help. LOL. By the way, it’s easier to reset the hammer with the gun folded. Thanks again for helping me out.
Anytime.
thanks i had that issue figured it wasn't good when i accidently set it off when working on taking it apart. all fixed up
Right on
I had this problem watched your video and fixed it....never had this issue before thank you for your help and channel.
Glad to help
Lol... I was one of those who mentioned this in your last video. I tend to have my firearms uncocked when I clean them... and this happened to me. Had me flustered and thought I broke something. Eventually I found posts that told how to fix that. Just wanted to help others who may have had the same problem.
@rangerrick8220 could you please tell me where you found videos to fix this problem, Hollow Point did this video and I thank him for it, but I don't know what he's doing with his pinky finger. Thank you in advance.
@@cocoman12 When you try to close the bolt, you will notice this small hammer getting in the way and stopping it. That needs to be pushed backwards till it locks in or clicks... THEN you can put the bolt back in. It just needs alot of force to push back and a long finger... that is what he is doing. He is calling it a `trigger' but he is actually referring to the hammer.
@@rangerrick8220 thanks so much, I will try it...I really don't want to ship it back to Smith and Wesson, the so called "gunsmith" at the gunshop said that he would not take a chance to fix it.
@@cocoman12 There is no need to ship it back. It is just abit hard to push that little thing back and get it to click, but is do-able.
Here is a different view: czcams.com/video/xn6QSg2f5a4/video.htmlsi=bXYYQSfCVGw2T5Lq
Thank you Greatly thought I was going to have to remove the tube assembly to reset the trigger, learned a lesson, keep my dam fingers away from the trigger when cleaning. Thanks Again
You’re welcome.
Thanks mate, I wanted to recreate this in case it ever happened.
I really hate forcing things...I've learned the hard way. I was convinced I was doing something wrong trying to seat the bolt and after about an hour of $%#!ing around I lightly smacked (about a 3-4 inch drop) the folded unit on a carpetted floor and PRESTO! Shoot that was easy.
Subbed!
Your pinkie is way stronger than mine. I couldn't recock that trigger for nuthin! Had to use a flat head screwdriver.
Btw I love your fix-it videos. You've saved me from my bumbling self twice already while cleaning my FPC
Glad they help!!!
Thanks for the video and info. I too was one of the unlucky ones who learned the hard way with that little fun fact!
Glad it was helpful!
Long skinny fingers help ! haha. Just now recocked the trigger and got her to working. Used a section of an old, old 12 ga. cleaning rod to accomplish the reset. Your first clue on reassembly, should you decock the trigger before disassembly, is you will have no resistance sliding the bolt back into place.
I suppose you could, I just leave it cocked and there is no issue for me.
You just earned a subscriber good sir. Thank you for this
Thank you!
I fixed it. I had an old pair of house slippers. Had hard rubber on soles. Cut 2 small pieces and tapped them to a flat head screwdriver. Put in the slot, got a good position on it and lifted up. BAM. I heard the click. Didn't have my sights on it but took it down and shot 15 rounds through it. Shoots great. I'm 77 and like it because it is liter than my other rifles. Hardly any kick. Putting sight on tomorrow, bore sight and shoot when I can. Put cleaning instruction on wall. #1. Put safety on and don't pull the trigger, Dummy.
Glad you got it fixed!
Thanks for the information 👍
Any time!
Thanks for helping a rifle noob out, brother!
Having experience with pistols, the take-down usually requires a trigger pull, so… 😊
Thanks again.
Not on the FPC, NO trigger pull is required at all. This is not like a pistol tear down at all. Activating the trigger on the FPC leads to a issue that can be easily avoided by NOT pulling the trigger.
@@hollowpointdefense I know. That’s why I found this video.
Thanks though!
thanks for the tip....that stack of ammo boxes behind you blew my mind, looks like you're ready for a few zombie apocalypses.
Thanks a million.
You just saved my hide, sir, and probably some money too! Your doing God's work.
Glad it helped you out!!!
Thanks for the tips 😊
Your welcome.
I did pull the trigger …Thanks for the tutorial. I was thinking the firearm needed to be seen by S&W. lol 😂
Glad it help you out!
@@hollowpointdefense it did! 😁
Hahhahaha this happened to me a couple of weeks back. Didn’t understand what was happening.. finally figured it out a week ago, this video would have helped me a lot sooner! Ha. Thanks for posting! 👍🏻
I was meaning to do this a lot earlier, but didn't have the time.
@@hollowpointdefense watched all your other videos on this gun hoping you would mention. Lol. Thanks again sir!! 🫡
@@SharpRealEstateGroup Anytime.
Great Videos & thanks for the info ?
Thanks for watching!
@ Hollow Point Defense, thank you for your tip,however can you please explain what is it exactly that you are manipulating with your pinky finger to reset the hammer...thank you so much.
I am pushing the hammer back.
🤦🏾♂️ Thank you for this video a couple weeks too late. I’m getting my gun back tomorrow from Smith and Weston because of that problem.
I don't get a lot of time at home to do these videos, I only do them when I can, sometimes it takes a while.
@@hollowpointdefense I know. I was just pulling your leg. Great video I really appreciate it. It would definitely help me out in the future.
What ammo cycles well with the FPC, Just purchased one. Great information!
I use Speer Lawman and have had ZERO issues.
Good video!
What would be the best round for this rifle? 115 gr, 124 gr, 147 gr, FMJ, HP, round nose, flat nose?
I use 124gr Speer Lawman FMJ mainly, no issues. I have used some Gold Dot as well, no issues either.
Thanks!
You're welcome.
yes i did it. inadvertently pull trigger after removing bolt and trying to get in there to reset hammer is awful. ill try the pinkey finger or thumb. same will happen on an ar but no problem on ar because its exsposed. btw yes you can reassemble the fpc but cannot insert mag cause the hammer is in the way
It is easy to activate the trigger, I have seen it done multiple times. At least it is an easy fix.
Very similar problem or should I say screw up by operator with my new ruger lcp max. If the hammer is dropped during disassembly, reassembly you can not put slide on enough to push take down pin home. I bet this is true of many firearms.
Could be, one thing on the FPC you have to really push the hammer pretty far to get it to reset.
FYI I just mounted my sling catch on the front of my FPC, Just in front of my fore grip, it works pretty good., provided you are not going to attach anything there. Also I have attached a flash can on mine also. Thanks for the tips. I need to change the mag release now, do you have a video on that. Thanks again for all of your tips.
The mag release is the same removal as the M&P Metals. czcams.com/video/jS1EqZKEJNQ/video.html
Uploading a video on the mag release now.
New video: czcams.com/video/koprYRG_sA4/video.htmlsi=ifUSdCrWh2ECUG04
Hi hollow point defense, I reset my trigger, but now the bolt will not go/ fall forward. Not sure what is going on. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks
Make sure the trigger didn't go forward.
Hi, Question. Is that a fore- grip? What brand? Is it a standard M-Lok rail on the bottom? I want to put a Bi-pod on mine.
It is M-Lok, That one on here is from BCM. I have since switched it to the Strike Industries hand-stop.
Thanks.@@hollowpointdefense
OMGG THANK YOU!!! 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
So when i pull the charging handle and squeeze the trigger it functions fine. Then while I continue to hold the trigger and pull the charging handle again, when i release the trigger it doesn’t click. But when i release the trigger and squeeze the trigger it clicks. Is there something wrong with the weapon?
Are you half cocking by chance? Make sure you pull the charging handle all the way back and let go immediately like you mean it.
I pulled the trigger. My finger isn't strong enough to reset it. Is there another way to do it? S&W won't be back in until 2 Jan.2024. I agree, this is a stupid design. S&W needs to make a tool to rest the trigger.
Could list the name of the company that you got the flash can from. Is it a flash suppressors or a suppressor that I need to get a tax stamp for. Thank you very much.
KAK Industries.
I’m in this situation and if I understand what I’ve done wrong the hammer just moves freely without any spring tension. I push it back with my finger but it never clicks into place. Not sure what to do now except take it to my gun guy.
May not be going back enough. Basically, you are kind of pushing it back in a in an arch form. And roundabout way, you’re going back with a little bit of downward pressure so the latch will catch.
@@hollowpointdefense thanks for the prompt reply. Nothing I do seems to work. If I activated the trigger then reassembled it successfully and put in an empty magazine would that have made a difference? That’s what I did and once I realized the trigger wasn’t working I disassembled it again but that’s as far as I can get.
@@davidrosenblum2178 y’all I did was remove the bolt and then I could take my pinky and push the trigger all the way back. You may have to get a wooden dowel to push it back there
@@hollowpointdefense I push it all the way back until it stops against something solid but it won't engage. I'm dropping it off at the gun store where II purchased it this morning to see if they can sort it out. But thanks anyway!
It happened to me! Rookie (with this firearm) mistake. I on the other hand had to take the gun apart to reset it! My pinky is a damn bratwurst apparently and couldn't get it to go back far enough! 🤣
Things happen, I have been down that road too.
What all accessories do you have in this
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IBy the way I'm wondering if dry fire is safe for this firearm.
I have had zero issues with dry fire, but I don't do a lot of it either.
how far back should you be pushing the hammer I feel like im pushing it back almost all the way but I don't hear a click and still not going back into place
It goes back a bit, I definitely hear it reset. Possible that it isn't going back far enough.
I wish you were in my area, I would look at it.
@@hollowpointdefense I eventually got it back didn’t hear a loud click but functions perfectly now if you could make a cleaning video for the fpc it would be awesome I don’t see a single on CZcams I kinda just clean it how I would clean anything focusing mainly on the metal on metal parts
@@adykanaan8722 I can do an in depth cleaning video this coming weekend.
Same here
Did you really mean to reach in and push the "trigger" back or rather to push the "bolt" back down to re-cock it ? DJ
I meant to say "hammer", not trigger. The bolt will NOT recock the hammer if you let the hammer go forward and then put the bolt in. You have to push the "hammer" back.
@@hollowpointdefense OK now I understand TY DJ
@@dorisjohnson8857 :) As long as your good that is all that matters.
I don’t know, but personally, I wouldn’t put that much force on the front of my barrel specially, if I have a suppressor on it 😅 probably won’t hurt it most likely it wouldn’t but I’m too easy on my weapons
Really there is no pressure at all. Plus, there is a 1" rubber mat on the floor as well.
Having an issue getting the bolt to seat. The trigger is in the correct position but can’t get the bolt to set so I can complete assembly. Any suggestions.
Hard to say with little details to go on or seeing it. Make sure the bolt is going in correctly, I have seen one person put in the bolt upside down and had trouble seating in all the way. There is a bolt guide (fin) inside the bolt has to align with. If the bolt is upside down or slanted (has to be flat to line up with the fin/guide) in any way it will not line up.
Thank you for your response. Spoke with S&W today and they had me pull the trigger and reinsert the bolt. It dropped right into place. Not sure what I originally did as I have disassembled and reassembled after cleaning before with no issues. Thanks again and keep the videos going as they are very helpful.
@@rcorbel6223 make sure a mag will fully insert after doing this.
@@hollowpointdefense I did and it worked. Thanks for the advice.
@@rcorbel6223 that was a strange issue. I have never seen a trigger be in the way of the bolt.
Mine will not re set when i push it back
You may have to take the top half of the receiver off to reset it. I haven't had this issue in front of me to see about solving it. You are the first one I have had mention this issue. I wish I could see one.
I got it..I referenced you video where you had the top off and realized I wasn't pushing it quite far enough..worked out great
this did not work for me. i dissembled the gun as per the manual. it does mention to not dry fire it while taken apart but i didn't realize it was already cocked when i dissembled it. went to put the bolt back in and it wouldn't go all the way in. had to pull the trigger to get the bolt to slide in all the way. now the bolt doesn't lock back, the trigger does nothing and the mags wont go in. i tried to pull the hammer back but it just flops around. no matter how far i push it back up it doesn't lock into place .
It will, you need to push the hammer back and down. Like in an arch motion. The mags will not go in because the hammer is in the way. You need to get the hammer back in the cocked position.
Newbies, heads up. Don't be in a hurry to break down your new firearm just to make you feel like your a mechanic. I have been guilty of just that. In reality you need not disassemble most guns just to clean them . Also keep it stock. You don't need to change out parts thinking you or your know it all buddy ,know better than the manufacturer.
I always tear mine down, I want to know how they disassemble and reassemble. This actually helps me work through any issues that may arise. But I am NOT a first timer either.
Aquila ammunition
I use Speer Lawman.
Don't be changing or messing with stock trigger. If it miss fires and you accidentally shoot someone or even intentionally shoot someone in self defense, o boy you will regret it. The DA will have the jury thinking you modified the trigger because you are a killer. A bad dude.
That has NOT been an issue in my state (AZ).
Push the hammer back not the trigger back. You cock the hammer.
@@davejones67 yep, noted months ago.
Puush the hammer down (not the trigger) and re-cock it. Not rocket science.
They know what I meant....