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- Struggle to hit focus with your fast 50mm lens, 90, 135? Me too! Leica viewfinder magnifier M 1.4x
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Struggle to hit focus with your fast 50mm lens or avoid using longer focal lengths? I was the same. What you need is a Leica viewfinder magnifier M 1.4x. Total gamer changer!! It makes any Leica M camera viewfinder as good as Leica M3 (*With the exception of the Leica M10). You can now nail your focus wide open on a Leica Summilux 50mm f1.4 ASPH, Noctilux or longer lenses such as 75mm, 90mm or 135mm. The Leica view finder magnifier gives an equivalent 50mm frameline view and magnifies both the rangefinder patch and the frame lines in the viewfinder. In addition to the Leica magnifier 1.4 I use there is also the Leica magnifier 1.25x version.
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As usual a useful, well explained and well constructed presentation in all humility. Thanks
Thanks Farhan! I'm doing my best to try to sound less boring haha :) Thanks for the feedback! :)
@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom - You're not boring at all.
This is SO good to know! Thank you!
Thanks Bob! Yes a very useful device :)
You are awesome 👏 i enjoy all your videos ❤️
Ha thank you! Lots more to come :)
this is the perfect companion for a leica with 0.58 viewfinder, thanks for showing the difference before and after
Thanks, yes it will definitely help the 0.58 finder cameras.
First of all, I must say that during my quest to acquired a M3DS a little over a month ago, I had been watching your videos religiously whenever I am editing! Great in depth info as always Matt to guide us on the Leica journey, I watched your video so much that I also picked up a M240 last weekend, and a health array of LTM, M mount and Canon LTM lenses for the two camera. I even picked up an EVF, per your suggestion. But aside from critical focus, I really miss the ability to see 1:1 on a 50mm on the M240 as 50mm are my walk-around lenses of choice. I think this has convinced me, yet again, to go spend some money!
Thanks for checking out my videos and i'm glad they are helping people. Yes the 1.4x still lives on my M cameras (except the M3 that doesn't need it).
Hello Matt. I own the 1.4X and is a real joy to use. Good video 👍
Thanks Roberto! Good to hear and many thanks! :)
Great idea never thought about it :-)
Thanks Ingo, I don't use my M's without them! ..I really wouldn't be able to see for my work without them so they are a must for me!
Great review!!!
Thanks Daniel! :)
Informative as usual. You can add The Walter Leica Contrast Lens to the viewfinder too and get more contrast on the rangefinder
Thanks Paul, interesting, I’ve not tried one of those as yet. Thanks for sharing. There is a great deal of Leica knowledge in this little community that is forming here! :)
Fantastic review, Matt! I use the 1.4x magnifier on my MP and used it with the M6 too. Both of these cameras are 0.72 viewfinder. What I find useful is with the 1.4 magnifier on 0.72 viewfinder you get 1:1 view through the viewfinder. That means that you can now focus with both eyes open. When you do it, your brain will instantly tell you which bit is in focus. It kind of magically works. I find focusing so much easier with both eyes open. On a different note, I've noticed the rubber ring on your magnifier is worn off. I've had the same issue with mine and Leica replaced it free of charge when I contacted support. In fact, they've sent me 3 replacement rings. Looking forward to more of your great Leica reviews.
HI thank you! Sorry I missed your comment. Yes these are always attached to my M bodies! I can't see without them! Thanks regarding the rubber ring, yes both mine wore off, I will try to contact them. Thanks for the tip!
I want to buy this 1.4 magnifier for my LeicaMP to use with tge 50mm f1 and the 90mm f2.
Can you still see the LED arrows indicating the light meter if the magnifier is in place?
Thank you!
@@AswinSastrowardoyoalso am curious
I got a used 1.25 magnifier from red dot cameras which i believed would suit me better than the 1.4.
Anyway instant success with my 50mm f2.4 summarit as i found framing and focus much easier and as a bonus it works well with my fave lens the 35mm f2.4 summarit as it still improves my ability to focus and i can still see the 35mm frame lines.
So a great result all round
Great news Stephen. I buy from RedDot. Good guys. Great to hear the 1.25x suits your needs well. You might like my next video talking of those lenses! ;)
Absolutely true I use one on my typ 246
Thanks Stefano, good to hear you use them too! :)
I just got the 1.25x magnifier for my M10-R (using the Leica thread adapter).
Wearing glasses I can barely see the 50mm framelines, so that is the maximum magnification for my 50mm Summilux.
I also find it reduces the size of the rangefinder view of the M10-R a bit.
But it helps with critical focus.
Thanks. It will magnify the view of the RF patch and view. Yes with glasses you’ll see less of the VF so good you got the 1.25x
I have one 1.25.
If you would like to use on M10, you can use Thread Adapter Leica 24001.
Ah great information thanks so much! You guys are awesome! I will paste the comment for others. Many thanks!
Thanks Matt for this and I am certainly thinking of picking one of these up! However, I am always reminded by this: “He had his little Leica,” [fashion photographer Helmut] Newton remembers, “and he simply would point and shoot.” Since Cartier-Bresson’s hand isn’t as steady as it used to be, some of the pictures were a bit fuzzy. “Sharpness,” he told Newton, “is a bourgeois concept.” Newton sits back and laughs: “I thought that was just divine.”
Great! Haha I ma in both camps.. I admire both photographers very much but I like sharp film images.. though the M3 is my favourite so with HCB on that. With HN for the models ha :) It depends what you shoot.. for street I think fuzzy is expected but not for models. No point giving them a OOFocus image for the sake of it! :)
@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom Yes, but not all fashion work is, or needs to be pin sharp! I love the work of Corinne Day, Collier Schorr and Juergen Teller, for example. For them its not always about the "how" it's more about the "why" and their work certainly moves beyond the aesthetic, the descriptive and the literal, and begins to scratch below the surface! Anyway, certainly enjoying your videos! Thanks again and kind wishes, Paul.
@@pcfentiman533 thanks Paul and yes I 100% agree..but I think I am a sucker for photos that at least look sharp (even if not zoomed in!) :) (for my own work)(maybe a future challenge to myself!)
Hello Matt, thanks for all the great content you post ! Do you have any feedback on the Bresson Magnifier ? Can’t find any reviews…
Thanks, i've not tried that but I later did a review on the Light Lens Lab diopter/ magnifier and I can recommend those. (See that video)
I think I’ll go to the light lens lab, I trust your review 😂 through the link you posted ?
** Correction to the video - If you would like to use on M10, you can use Thread Adapter Leica 24001.
Thanks Takezinho, we are building a great community here! :)
Did you ever find if there was one actually made for the M10's? I have horrible sight...and my first Leica is the M10M.
I love the camera, but can use all the help I can get, especially when only using the rangefinder and not the visioflex.
@@chilecayenne hi I’ve never seen one listed BUT I’ve never looked either. I think there must be yes as the M10 is a popular camera.
Pretty Rare but I managed to get a Nr New from eBay (1.25). If ever I sell my M240 a little magic might help. An abundance of information on this video, thank you.
Thanks Alan, congrats, a good find!
Very useful video and food for thought,i often shy away from using my 50mm f2.4 summarit because of fear of missing focus even though its a slow lens.
Tend to use my 35mm summarit instead but this could help balance that situation more so may well get one.
Hi Stephen, ah yes then you are the perfect beneficiary! The Summarit can look great wide open up close. I've done some nice portraits with mine. Maybe try to test one first if you get an oppotunity but it will certainly mean you can use your 50mm for what it was designed for.
@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom they sometimes turn up used so will keep a look out for one.
Thanks for the video.
Do you know whether this magnifier can be attached to the Leica M-A or Leica MP without using any added items?
Thanks in advance.
Hello yes it should fit everything except the M10 (any M with a standard diameter viewfinder).
Thanks a lot Matt for this helpful video. Sorry for my late comment. I checked B&H, it recommends 1.25x for 50mm lenses & 1.4x for 75 & 90mm ... which has me confused, & unsure of what to buy of the two magnifiers !
Also, some Users have given negative reviews about 1.4x :--
1st Reviewer : "I have the M7 and M9 & the magnifier 1.25. I purchased the 1.4 to try to get greater magnification but found indoors the darkness of my rangefinder was too great. At the same time it was helping with focus but it was hindering me to see the focus patch. I sent the 1.4 back, it may work for you it didn't for me."
2nd Reviewer says : "I have a 1.25 magnifier & sometimes felt not easy focusing enough & try to use a 1.4. After tried between 1.25 & 1.4 and by using M50/0.95 & M90AA several times, I found actually 1.4 does not improve any. Yes, it enlarges the imaging, but depending upon light, so final effort is almost the same as 1.25, and you need back your eye a little then could see shutter speed data.Finally I decide keeping it for my M8.2 and leave 1.25 for M9P."
3rd One : "the magnifier works, but the gain is marginal subjectively tested with several Leica lenses. Calculating gain/dollar, marginal is a generous description, at best, of the practical advantage to the photographer. Moreover, (at least subjectively to me), the viewfinder image is not quite as sharp-edged crisp using the magnifier as it is through the original viewfinder used without the magnifier. Thus, a marginal magnification benefit is offset by a possible image deterioration. In other words, the practical net gain in to the photographer in routine use on the street approaches zero. I am not adverse to spending money on Leica products as I have done in the past, but this duo (magnifier and adaptor ring) at nearly $500 is beyond even my relatively relaxed tolerance. I sent both items back to B&H."
Lastly, a 1.25x User says : "Leica would do all M users a tremendous favor if they'd simply put a diopter adjustment on the viewfinder of the M camera. Would it kill them to do this? I know it would forever alter the whole Oskar Barnack mojo, but he's been dead for 100 years (or so). Absent this very simple customer focused improvement to an otherwise fine photographic tool, we're stuck using substitutes such as the 1.25x and 1.40x magnifiers. I've tried the 1.4x and it made everything a bit fuzzy, regardless of the lens. Now I'm trying the 1.25x and it's a little better i.e. a little less fuzzy. But frankly it does not provide as much benefit for focusing my Noctilux as I had hoped for. Until Leica puts in a few 21st century touches on the M (besides the nearly useless Movie mode), this is as good as it gets."
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I will also get the Thread Adapter 24001 for my M10P with either of the two magnifiers you'll suggest.
I apologise for copy + pasting the long reviews here. There were many other happy users of both magnifiers too, on B&H.
Hello Chirag, I know we've already spoken but sorry for the delayed reply on this comment. I can only comment on what I use but I love my Leica M 1.4x finders. Both of them! I know cheaper finders are said to be darker.
Matt Osborne ok I get what u meant. Thanks brother
I have had two of them sitting in my bits and pieces box for the last 10-15 years. One is a variable diopter one, which I don't need at all now that I had cataracts done and my corneas lasered at the same time and I also have a Leica fixed diopter 1.4X one. The problem with the 1.4X lenses that they obscure the 28mm frame totally and make the 35mm frame difficult to see. Before I had my eyes lasered, I found a -0.5 diopter in the eyepiece was the best thing for me. I am coming up to 74 years old and I can still focus my 75/f1.25, 85mm/f1.5 and 135/f3,4 with perfect accuracy, so not quite sure what I would achieve with a 1.4X magnifier to compensate for their downside. I always wondered why when Leica put variable diopter (excellent) eyepieces in their R cameras and other makers have them in their rangefinders, Leica either did not want to or was unable to.
Thanks Wilson. Yes I agree I really enjoy my cameras with built in diopters whether it's Voigtlanders, Barnack Leicas, Leica clones or even the Hasselblad H2
I've used these, helps a rad but I need something for my Nikon F2 in wide angle as well using same Voigtlander 58/1.2. I have bad eyes so anything can help in manual focus. A newer or better version of the old Nikon DG-2?
See my diopter video. It covers some Nikon cameras. Yes 58mm is hard to nail focus wide open.
Is this something that would help on older cameras with very small viewfinder openings? I wear glasses but have a Zeiss 532/16 and I gotta pop my glasses up after focus to see the frame edges.
Hello yes just add a 50mm finder to the hotshoe. I use these sometimes. You can find on eBay, cheap ones and Leica ones
Matt - Thanks for this useful tip along with a lot of the other information you share. I am trying to decide between the 1.4 and 1.25 magnifiers. The official Leica site recommends 1.25 for focal length above 50 mm and 1.4 for above 75 mm. Checking to see if you know rationale for the recommendation.
Hello and thanks, if you wear glasses get the 1.25x for 50mm, if not I find the 1.4x works fine and you can see the 50mm frame. More magnification from the 1.4x suits me better. I think a 1.25x would allow you to see more of the 35mm frame without glasses.
Hi, thanks for all the useful information... will these work on a Carl Zeiss C Sonnar T* 1,5/50 ZM thanks
Hi Alan, yes of course. It works for every RF coupled lens, any make so you will be fine
Hello.. as always.. excellent report.. a question. I have a Leica m11 nonocrom... is this scope advisable...?
Thanks! The M10 and M11 have a wider viewfinder so these older finders won't fit directly. You'd need to get the adapter.
Just bought one, given my shocking eyesight and being "left-eyed" I figure this may be a blessing :)
Mine is permanently attached!
@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom I wonder if it will be of most help in improving focusing the Summarit F1/5? Focusing this lens I find very precise and easy to go passed the "sweet spot"
@@Phil.Austin yes any fast 50s + longer are great with it
@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom Brilliant thanks Matt
Wearing glasses and not feeling the magnifier, not a great idea. Lost it after a couple of hours. The new one is clipped in ☺
Thanks Matt for your exhaustive reviews of all the lenses recently. Really helpful info. Does the magnifier fit the MP? I presuming it does as it fits all the other film bodies but just checking as it wasn’t in your list. Cheers
Thank you Malcolm, Yes 99.9% sure it will fit the MP. It fits every other M (M10 with adapter).. I didn't list as hadn't tried it / own it myself.
Just got my 1.4 magnifier and i can confirm that it does fit on the MP. 👍🏻
Nice video thanks! Have you happened to try out the contrast lens for Leica ...i think steve huff mentioned it some years back...Would be good to compare
Hi Marc, i've not. If I get chance I will be sure to share.
Leitz made a push on orange filter to increase contrast on Barnack cameras. I have one on my iiif bd, and it works great. It pushes on the rf window.
At 5:45 in, also not knowing how to focus could throw off focus too. For example, focus and recomposing when really close to your subject.
Hi yes you would think but I focus and recompose with Leica and have never seen an issue, and I nearly always work at very close range too..
Hello Matt✌
I find that it then makes the camera unappealing😁 Such a fine piece of tool should be original. and then work with it, but still very cool video..
Lg Anderl
Thanks, I need it to see but camera more pretty without!
Interesting, I need to try a magnifier. Just out of curiosity: what is the reason for ignoring the M5 completely in all your videos? I never saw it popping up in any list of Leica cameras presented on your channel.
Thanks Bartoz, there is now a better viewfinder magnifier. Search MrLeica Light Lens Lab viewfinder magnifier and you'll find it. Sorry for nothing on the M5. It's only because it's a camera that didn't interest me at the time I bought my M bodies (like the M7) so I skipped it. I will try to make a video at some point for completeness.
i was going to buy a sony just so i can use my long lens. thank you!!
Sorry I missed this. See my latest EVF video too, that will also help. I was using a 180mm lens today! :)
Honestly Matt, the best focusing accessory for fast rangefinder glass is... a Leica SL TYPE 601 (unless you're a dentist, then just get the SL2). Seriously, the rangefinder system is sadly inadequate for f/0.95 or even f/1.4 glass. With focus peaking or zoom and no need for constant tweaking of the rf mechanism, it's the only way to go.
Thanks JK, yes it was interesting.. I saw a near immediate drop in my Leica workshops when the SL released. Everyone that struggled with the M moved over quite promptly. The SL/CL make sense for accurate focusing as you say, I use it on my CL.
Hey Matt. Does anyone make a magnifier for barnacks? Like the Leica ii’s with the focus and compose ports that are circular and separated from each other?
Hi, Barnacks have a built in diopter so you don't need a magnifier (it's already 50mm)
@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom Are there any quick load spools from 3rd parties you recommend if I don’t want to cut the film every time?
@@ae364 no sorry
You didn't mention the M5. But am I right it not only works but helps with the Cron 90, right?
Wonderful review - as always. Thank you very much.
Hi Jochen, sorry I don't have the M5 so I often forget to mention it. Yes it works the same on every M except the M10 as that has the larger diameter finder. Very useful for fast 50s + 75, 90, 135mm
Thanks Matt....just ordered a Bresson branded magnifier for my m8....the next decision is 75mm or 90 for my m8.....thanks Simon
Thanks Simon, it should help a lot with the 75/90. I've not tried non-branded but i'm sure it will help!
Matt Osborne will try... I won’t use it a lot so don’t want to spend a fortune.
Can u share a link .?
Simon Kimber can u share a link ?
martin tang www.ebay.co.uk/itm/264705100268. No idea how good it is until I receive it
M8/9과 Typ246을 사용하는 입장에서 큰 도움이 되는 내용이라 생각합니다. 안경을 씁니다만 시력이 그리 좋지는 않거든요.
Have you tried this for 90mm lens on the M3? I don't use my Elmarit-M nearly enough, mainly because I find it difficult to compose in the smaller frame when I can see so much outside it. If the magnifier pushed the 50mm frames out of sight and made the 90mm frame look a bit more like the 50mm it would be nice!
Hi Paul, yes it really benefits the 50 and 90. An easy way to explain it would be on a non-M3 the 35mm view becomes a 50mm view and the 50mm frame now fills the frame. On the M3 the 50mm frame would be slightly out of view I think and the 90mm would look larger.
Would this work with a 50mm voigtlander? Thanks!
Yes of course, any lens but especially fast lenses. I used with Voigtlander 50/1.2. See that video you may spot it on my M240.
Hey Matt, I know this is an older post but I was wondering if you had a chance to try this on an M11. From B+H Photo in the U.S. I have found that an adapter is necessary for the M10 series but no mention of the M11. I am thinking that since the M11 comes after the M10 the threading on the viewfinder ring is inherited from that model, unless for some reason they decided to go back to the older threading. Anyway I couldn't find any confirmation on this but since you use the magnifier so much and if you had reviewed the M11, if you had a chance to se if it would work natively or if it requires an adapter like the M10. Cheers in advance. Always a pleasure to see your videos.
Hello, yes the M11 uses the same diopters/ magnifiers as the M10 (both have the same larger VF). This 1.4x mag version fits older cameras only but I think you can get adapters to mount the old mag on newer body.
@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom Ta!
I basically need the opposite. To move the eyepoint backwards so I can see the 35mm framelines with glasses. Or the 28mm framelines, which I can barely see even without glasses.
Hmm, that might be less easy. You could get the Bessa R4A/M but it's not a Leica.
hey Matt! Would you recommend using this on M6 (x0.72) with a 50mm lens?
Hi, if f1 or f1.4 yes or if you mis-focus a lot then yes. I use mine for everything!
what about the summarit 50mm f2.4? f2.5 in your case.
If you only use 50mm it makes your viewfinder like the M3 where the 50mm lines now full the full viewfinder. I love it and use this but it’s personal preference. If you shoot mostly 28mm you would need to keep taking off but if only 50mm you can glue it on (joking) it’s that good to have for me.
Hi Matt. Could I use it on the M3, for the 90, 135 or even the Summilux 50? Is it worth it?
Hi Estevao, you probably don't need it on the M3. Certainly not for the 50mm as 50mm already fills the entire VF. I guess it would help for the 90 and 135 but i've never thought to try it! :)
I have to use the cord on mine, I find it unscrews too easily, and I have removed my camera from the bag only to see the magnifier in the bag, I am scared to lose it while carrying the camera not in a bag, which I do often.
Eek, yes if it unscrews tie it on for sure! They are not cheap! (You probably noticed mine are heavily worn.. the rubber ring eventually wears off ha). Optics just as good though!
Hi Matt, I’m a recent owner of a M typ 262 and 50mm Summilux and wondering of purchasing this magnifier. Since it magnify til the 50mm frame, it seems I lose the bottom indications in the viewfinder won’t I ?
Oriel76 Hi no you won’t, see photo in video you can see ISO etc
Oriel76 ..and congrats on your new setup!! :)
Matt Osborne Ok. Thank you 👍
Received and tested. It is indeed much better, thank for your advise.
Will this work on the Leica M5? Nice video.
Hello thanks, yes all M cameras except M10
I have a MP with a 35 Summilux I'll look into this. Are they still being made by Leica?
Thanks.
Hello, I believe so yes. You might prefer the 1.25x version for 35mm
@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom Eventually i will get the 50mm lux. Would i use the same 1.25x for the 50?
Thank you for the reply.
I lost mine. Stupid thing can fall off easily if you don't keep tightening it if you don't have the cable attached. Also, I used it no problems with my 35mm lens. One of the best accessories and I miss it!
Hello very sorry to hear you lost it :( Yes like you I use it with 35mm too (leave it on).
Does this work on a M2? And have you tried the knock versions you see on ebay
Yes Jon, on M2 is fine and no I've not tried cheaper version, sorry.
@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom thanks for the info I have a voightlander 50mm 1.1 nokton and sometimes I miss focus with it
@@jonfassnacht9309 yes it will 100% help you. I can't shoot without mine now with fast 50s. A good investment.
@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom sweet I'll have to look for onem they are super pricey though.
@@jonfassnacht9309 They do hold their value if you ever come to sell.. that always makes me feel better if buying any Leica gear!
Does it fit on the M4?
Hi, Yes all older M cameras.
M3 viewfinder are only good for 50 to 135mm, not for wideangle. I think M2 are the best compromise :)
Yes for most people M2 may be better. I shoot 90%+ 50mm so M3 works great.
Not sure about its quality, but there is a generic Chinese version 1.1-1.6x Leica M viewfinder magnifier for 1/8th of the price.
Have just ordered said chinese magnifier lol so will find out
Thanks Martin, i'm sure others will be interested by this. I can't comment as haven't tried them but I did read they were not quite as bright or as clear.. not sure if that is true.
@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom Yes, the reviews on Amazon are mixed. I suspect it works not as well optically as the dedicated Leica one but might be good enough if it is not always needed.
The Magnifier is very usefull, but I lost mine :-(
Sorry to hear this Klaus. I leave mine usually on the camera.
I was wondering what happens if you drop it with it. Here we go.
Not much.. it might chip the paint if you are unlucky but they are light so will not fall hard.
@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom What if it's attached to the camera? would it pop the viewfinder off?
Raymond Lo No it’s only screw in. ..but you shouldn’t be planning to drop Leica cameras anyway ;)
Disappointing to see such pronounced pincushion distortion to the framelines when attached :( Why can't Leica make a simple optic with this corrected? Having accurate and straight framing lines when composing should have been a priority when this was designed.
I now use the Light Lens Lab version, see that video or link on the blog
Stop using an untra-wide angle lens directly in your face. And stop directly staring into the lens. The audio is also crap. The video quality is just terrible.
Haha thanks! 🤣 That made me smile!