Everything that went wrong for Red Bull in F1's Australian GP
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- čas přidán 24. 03. 2024
- Mark Hughes and Samarth Kanal join Edd Straw to unpack an incident-packed Australian Grand Prix, in which Max Verstappen suffered a surprise non-finish, Fernando Alonso got penalised, and Carlos Sainz returned from illness to deliver a first win of 2024 for Ferrari.
1:55 How the Australian GP played out
8:29 Sainz’s heroics
14:00 Where will Sainz end up in 2025?
19:10 Norris gives McLaren a first podium of ’24
22:21 Mercedes misery
28:22 Tsunoda puts Ricciardo in the shade
31:20 Haas double up on points
33:12 Albon takes borrowed car to 11th
35:42 Valtteri Bottas sympathy corner
37:07 Listener questions
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It's strange how The Race defending Alonso's penality both in the review video and the podcast when they stated multiple times how wrong it is to penalize a driver based on the outcome rather than the action itself, which is exactly what happened here. If Russel didn't crash this whole thing woudn't even be mentioned and we are talking about a guy who is known to make mistakes under pressure, hell he could have crashed without Alonso doing anything at all like he did in Singapore.
I'm not sure that follows, my understanding was that the _severity_ of the penalty should not be informed by the results of the incident.
Say one driver _tries_ to brake-test another driver, but it backfires and the 2nd driver just evades and passes them. The 1st driver _still_ should be penalised, because they were driving dangerously, even though they were the only one who suffered from their actions.
they're British fans, not f1 fans.
The penalty for Alonso is absurd.
The Alonzo penalty makes no sense to me. Horrible penalty
I saw it on Jeddah, where Verstappen was the only one without DRS and here, the same for Sainz. Driving in clean air gaves you a massive advantage. De la Rosa said here the DRS was worth 1 sec. With these regs and tires, once you are in front and can manage the tires you have won 90% of the race
So much for a 'new generation' of cars that allowed for 'better wheel to wheel racing'. 🙃
Cars can still pass now but it has to be a car that’s faster than the one in front. Max has won from many positions in these regs that were not pole.
Congrats to the Smooth Operator (from a Verstappenshagger)
Watchin a wee bit of RPM? Osama Bin Russell shags it in the wall again. xD
A fellow RPM viewer , a man of culture
@SiegfriedDerDrachentoter right?!? Dude is the most entertaining thing in the entire game, and YT in general. His pod The Nerve is the biggest bargain at £/$ 3, even if he's lucky to get 2-3 out a month. Can't get mad at genius...
What if Carlos replaces Perez for 2025🤔
Carlos should replace Perez. Would love to see what happens if Verstappen did not retire.
@@cmchiam I was on roof while seeing the battle begins, then White Pigeons were flying at Max wheels 😭😅
@@cmchiamthey were teamates at toro rosso when verstappen was 17 (both rookies) and he easily had the measure of sainz
@@SiegfriedDerDrachentoterSo he'd be perfect then. Red Bull don't want someone to challenge their golden boy.
Hope not. RB would destroy his career like every RB 2nd drivers.
The Race is appreciated for not spoiling the race less than seven hours after it happened.
Alonzo's penalty was the worst call in a long time for stewards! Try telling a cop you were break checked and crashed because of that on a public road. Driver in back is responsible for not hitting one front! Stewards need to keep out of the way!
If drivers are allowed to press a button that allows their aero to make them way faster than a car under 1s ahead then the driver ahead should be allowed to use the dirty air that the car causes to defend…
Driving on a track is a bit different to tootling to Tesco in your Fiat 500 pal
Bad take. Brake checking especially on purpose is even seen as a criminal offense in some jurisdictions.
you can tell how those trying to justify the penalty only can grip to the word "erratic" as suitable explanation... seriously, no one unbiased would see the action as punishable
I miss the chapters. Guess you are treating this as if it were audio only but it was quite nice to head directly to the subjects you wanted to hear about.
They are there for me.
Check the video description
@@ClinicalDecisionYikesYT Thanks. I wonder why they don't show on the timeline. 🤔
No, sorry gentlemen against all expectations derived from the so called data, nothing indicated a fight for the leading position during the first 3 laps we saw Verstappen and Sainz on track together. We know now that Max was driving a car with the handbrake on, gradually getting worse until the brake gripped firmly at the wheel and finally exploded in the Pitt lane.
If this slowing down had not happened Verstappen would have raced himself out of the overtake reach and disappeared in the distance.
Alonso's penalty was pure horse shite. Had Georgie boy not binned it, nothing would have happened. What happened to not bringing in the consequences when considering driver penalties? Pure crap.
Absolutely right and well said 👍
It's the other way round, had Alonso not taken that corner in a completely different way from the other laps and George wouldn't have binned it.
"If Red Bull had done better, would they have done better?"
Ironically the lack of adaptability is exactly the reason why I think Danny rid would still be a better fit for the seat next to max, since they both like a similar setup, while Carlos struggled whenever the Ferrari's setup went more towards Charles' liking. remember when people talked abt Carlos as a Ferrari flop, bc Leclerc was doing so well, and then when later on when the setup went more towards Carlos, all of a sudden he could keep up, and later on win.
Why are all of these being unlisted?
They're not unlisted, you can find them under "podcasts" instead of "videos" on their channel
Did somebody managed to listen to this till the end? I don't wanna be mean, but one of the guys seems to be choking with the words/consonants so badly that made me stop.
Time stamps ?
Russel is a wellknown Mate-cocker. He blames his opponents for being alive and driving on the same road as he is, causing drag.
Haas scored points by 3 cars ahead of them DNFing.
So did Tsunoda in the RB.
It’s amazing ho scoring points in a car that is not too 5 requires something to go wrong for the top 5.
What a moronic comment
This needs a time stamp
Y did u guys stop having stock video footage in these podcasts? Y is it now a still image?
I have an oled tv & this is not ideal. A still image for almost an hr
I will now just use Apple Podcast then.
The success of Haas is very much due to the success of Ferarri. They buy suspensions and engine from Ferarri, and use the same wind tunnel. It’s no coincidence that Ferarri and Haas both have better tyre wear.
But Sergio has signed to 2025. Science of car - aren’t they the leading engineers?
I love how this title is. Everything went wrong with Red Bull. Yet they had one car that finish in the points. Meanwhile Mercedes double DNF but the race will always protect Mercedes and British drivers...
Plus that Max took pole in a convincing performance in Q3.
Let's not kid ourselves - Max would have won by 20 seconds. Again.
Not a chance
No he would not. Red Bull were massively struggling on tyre deg. Perez finished 35 seconds behind the race win. In Jeddah he was 8 seconds behind Max, 22 seconds in Bahrain.
Max might have won but it would have been extremely close between him and the Ferraris. No chance in hell he'd have won in by 20 seconds.
@@areebsiddiqui758, 35 seconds isn't really representative. They finished under VSC, with the reduced pace producing bigger time differences across the line. Red Bull also claimed Perez had reduced car performance due to a tear off stuck somewhere.
Won the race yes but not by 20s or over it i think the Ferrari was have good tyre deg compare to Red bull so i think it will be so close but who know
@@matttrevers2552 Perez was actually 56 seconds off after the VSC. 35 seconds was the gap pre VSC. Atleast check your facts before making an argument. Max in quali was 0.35 quicker. Over a race distance that's 15-20 seconds at best. Add maybe 10 seconds for Perez's damage.
I honestly don't think Verstappen would have won that race, Sainz even had some pace in hand late on. Ferrari were genuinely on par with RB who completely messed up their setup.
Full agreement for Alonso’s penalty against a Merc. SHOCKER!!!!! If Alonso is guilty of the most unsafe thing a driver can do (brake test) then he should be banned for multiple races and fined. But no one actually believes that, because the telemetry matched his story exactly. There’s no grey area for a brake test, either he did or did not. The mental gymnastics The Race has to do to cover for Mercs absolutely abysmal car/overall performance can win Gold at the upcoming Olympics.
Great race, finally Ferrari on top😊😊, Carlos totally deserving win
The race wasn't that great. Same procession different car up front.
It was the suspense of Ferrari Strategy not messing up that was great.
Cinderella is also a nice storyline.
Thanks
TURN IT UP
16:30 Alonso LIFTED, nor BRAKED 100m earlier on that lap. You are just defending George's lack of skill, and you can have your opinion... but keep the facts straight!
The telem is now available… I love Alonso but I’m afraid he’s bang to rights. 😂 It’s a data driven sport, check the data before having an opinion. 👍
The braking wasn't even the issue.
The data shows off and on the throttle which the fia deemed to be erratic and potentially dangerous driving. I don't agree with the penalty being 20 seconds because if Russell doesn't crash there's no penalty. Inconsistent ruling from the fia
Everyone drives differently depending on the circumstances. Managing tires, attacking or defending. And then of course there are mistakes. If we look at the data this way there would have been many more penalties for “so called erratic” driving.
For sure George could have taken a different line or braked earlier. He had enough time to react … unless he was sleeping.
So for me no penalty!
@@RoysIdea don’t be ridiculous, he braked 100m early, then got back on the throttle then braked again, all for the same corner!
Perez had floor damage(tearOff blocked ) you know it and ignore it just to discredit him, like always.
if FER wins 1-2 Japan then RBR would panic, but AUS was just a bad weekend for them like SNG 23 lol
One swallow doesn't make a summer
How was this a good race? Carlos just cruised passed to victory. Just that brits are happy its not a Max Victory.
Wooooooooo!!! Edd! Edd! Edd! Wooooooooooooooo!!!
Its a look hole operation….. so not a big cut actually. And Carlos said he doesn’t feel any pain, just a weird feeling, nothing more.
Hahaha Brits critiquing Perez and ignoring queen Hamilton being mopped around by Russell all races this season.
They wont blame the driver.. always blame the car😂
Is that Alan Shearer that said "The Athletic" in the intro?
Re F1, great result for Ferrari & F1 in general, Forza Ferrari!
Are people ready to admit that Ricciardo is washed finally?
Plenty have already been saying that to be fair. Only thing I can think of is he doesn't understand these ground-effect cars.
@@alexpeak16 yeah, I know people have been saying it, but then there's that horde of people saying he's still got it. Those that want him in Perez's seat. I guess I should have addressed those people in my comment.
@@Spike-sk7ql Which is now either between Perez or Sainz. We can firmly discount Ricciardo now.
There are still plenty of DR fans who claim "it's just been 3 races so too soon to tell", but I imagine even these people probably realize that Danny is not fighting for a Red Bull seat now, he is rather fighting to keep his RB seat.
still curious why they won't put Tsunoda in the conversation as well@@alexpeak16 he seems to be doing great the past 2 years except for the occasional outburst.
It would be such a shame Carlos wouldn’t be on the grid for 2025
he'll get a drive, but hopefully Sauber isnt terrible by that point
Brilliant podcast...👌👌👌
Mercedes are done. The mid table team now. They've lost too many key personnel like Cowell, Costa and Hutchinson. You can't lose players like that and still expect to be competitive. Merc should have gave Newey a blank cheque when his contract was up.
Perez coming in 56 seconds down from Sainz is really disappointing, and missing out on what might have been a great fight with Max and Sainz sucked the life out of the race on lap 2.
I don't think the gap was as wide when George crashed. They then cruised to the finish line at different speeds so it ends up not being representative, nevermind Perez's underwhelming race.
It was about 35 seconds pre VSC and Perez had underfloor damage. Even then Max would have found it difficult to win. RB admitted themselves that they messed up their setup and had really high deg.
Hamilton’s had trait is he gives up if he doesn’t have a fast car.
Is Logan worse than Latifi though? 🤔
About Lewis's current form, i think he has come to the realization that Mercedes won't be able to fix that car so why waste your energy pushing a car that isn't going to get you anywhere near the podium.
Isn't that exactly what separates the champions of the rest? You'd want be on top as much as possible, even in a non-podium car against your teammate.
The one week we are looking forward to 'The Race's obsession with Merc and they focus on Red bull. Come on guys, if you are going to play the role, stay consistent
Conversely, I didn't miss the tiring Christian Horner slander combined with the mandatory dose of virtue signalling (funded by Aramaco 😂)
The sociopathic take of "logical" always cracks me up, even when it backfires.
Albon didn't get points, therefore it wasn't worth it. Also in the process 3 DNF, 2 bad Stake pit stops, and getting out drove by both Haas drivers. Still didn't get any points lmfao
first the podcast is wrong red bull on max had brake from lap 1 second perez had damage on the floor otherwise had on top 3 can not compare performance ferrari vs red bull on 1 race and damage car is off Leclerc w off on Sainz in this year easy bet Leclerc.
(Boomba doggy)
Thank you! Everyone else is so wishy-washy about what Alonso did and I can only say "if you have to worry about random braking and the car in front of you slowing down purely to disrupt you 100m farther from a corner than normal... you can't follow at all, it's just a recipe for disaster"
No. Hamilton is washed. Ferrari made a mistake. Mercedes don't want to admit it, but they will be trading up if they bring in a Carlos tier driver, or maybe even Fernando.
56 minutes???? I tell you what’s wrong in 2 sentences. Verstappen had a right rear brake problem, which later translated into brake duct fire and explosion. Perez just sucks and underperformed as usual.
Melt down? 😂😂😂. A one off brake failure in the most dominant car and a number two who cant drive to the cars limits as shown all his career. Yeh god thats the championship wide open then yeh. 🤦♂️
Becaue LEC is a SHORT CORNER DRIVER, so he turns to corner sooner, which gives him more room for errors.
Big moment for carlos, but another opertunity for lecler waisted kinda losing patience with the guy.
If russell didn't crash, alonso wouldn't have rreceived a penalty. You don't hand out penalties for the outcomes of actions. You hand out penalties for the action itself. F1 is absolutely awful with their penalty procedures. This should never have been a penalty. Russell is a driver who is known for losing focus at the end of a race and messing up. Look at all the crashes last year. Hitting lewis on a freakin straight too no less. Peewee Russell is a joke. He should leave F1 and spend his days drinking "nice latte's" instead with his capri jeans and boat shoes with no socks.
RBR will DOMINATE Japan
Not sure about RBR, but at least Max will 😂
Red bull go get Carlos and wave Perez
One swallow doesn't make a summer
Worst F1 news channel.
Not the best speakers are they
@@nigelhopkinson6614 that’s exactly it. Something about their delivery is just so droning. And after a minute or two their voices just sound like noise.
I think that there couldn’t have been a better opportunity for Carlos to cement that he is Ferraris #1. If I was heading Ferrari I’d keep Carlos, payout Charles and bring Hamilton on. They will make their money back triple with a Carlos/Lewis line up from a marketing standpoint.
you clearly don't understand the situation. btw what you'd do, we don't care. btw2 Carlos is nowhere near Charles in terms of stats. so keep dreaming kiddo.
Problem is John Elkann is a businessman, not a racer. The fact it's Sainz and not Leclerc taking those non-RBR wins slightly undermines Leclerc for me and yet everyone talks about him like he's demolishing Sainz which is not true.
@@jiboo6850 kiddo huh? 😂 please grow up
@@alexpeak16great point. Leclerc is not showing anything that says he’s an amazing driver. Talented yes but as you said, Sainz is taking those wins, he’s the one setting the pace at Ferrari and is the one bringing those 1st place trophies to Ferrari not Leclerc. Leclerc could be out qualifying Sainz in every single race but if Sainz is bringing home the win then who’s really the better driver?
@@Uranswer-yu5kp LOL says the guy who forgot to... brain remained nanosize.
Why am I surprised that just english wanna-be-f1-fans are the only ones who think Alonso's penalty was fair. You're not f1 fans, you're tea and ducks fans.
max's DNF was weird , unprecented , uncomprehensible and uexplainable , it's like it has been done on purpose , the mechanic who has placed the braking discs should be severely punished and fired asap , because he costed max his 57th race win and has costed redbull a huge money loss
That’s exactly how I felt! Like ain’t no way! They can see the brakes aren’t cool from the formation lap and didn’t call him in.
maybe hes a spy sent from TOTO lol
Harsh, you are clearly a passionate Max fan. Wouldn’t want you to be my boss. Next time you make a mistake though and cost your employer money should your pay check be garnished? Or if it is a whopper of a mistake you get axed and feel that is fair. Or if you were not fired would you willingly resign?
If the answer to the above three questions is yes then you are consistent and apply the same standards to yourself and others. Tough but universal ideals.
But to err is human. RB will not make the same mistake again. And perhaps it was a faulty part perfectly installed and calibrated? And if that is the case do you advocate that the part manufacturer or RB employee if RB made the part be sh*t canned to?
Speaking for myself only this is likely a speed bump on the journey to another stellar season for RB and Max.
Nah chill bro
max's DNF was weird , unprecented , uncomprehensible and uexplainable , it's like it has been done on purpose , the mechanic who has placed the braking discs should be severely punished and fired asap , because he costed max his 57th race win and has costed redbull a huge money loss😢😭
go touch grass..
max has gotten a dnf 😭 i literally wanna cry for god's sake , god damn it , i really don't understand why the fuck redbull has kept the same braking discs and they didn't change the braking fucking discs , because both max and sergio have complained about braking issues , this is totally uncomprehensible , unexplainable , uncessary and completely uncalled for , this is called negligence and nonchalance , they have costed max his 57 th win , what a dreadful and miserable weekend , it's weekend to forget just like singapore 23
Calm down😂… he will win the next 12 races
go touch grass..
cry more
Bro, that's not healthy for you.