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I bailed on AVID in July and moved to Reaper. Reaper was tough to get used to, but now that I have it up and running it does everything Pro-Tools does. Reaper does everything I need it to do for $300. I might never go back to Pro-Tools.
Well done sir. Well done.
Bro you get the Pro Tools ultimate “feature set” for only $60. It’s stupid how much money they charge for advanced automation 🙄
Left AVID in 2012 for Reaper. I’ve never looked back.
👍👍👍
did the same two years ago. good choice plus you get Kenny for free!
A long long time ago, I did all my recording on PC with cakewalk, sound forge, and acid pro. Then Gibson bought out Cakewalk and then folded the products with zero notice. That was the time that I moved over to studio one and also change platform to Macintosh. I never had to open a manual for studio one. It’s just made sense to me coming from cakewalk. I know that cakewalk has been recovered by band lab, but I’m not taking any steps back. I do run a Linux machine with Reaper and with Harrison Mixbus 32c What that is just more of a development machine a run. I would not want to go through changing DAWs again. I just want to make music with an easy workflow and be productive. Thanks for the video
Been a fanboy , guilty, of Nuendo since it came out. I understand the pains of switching, but Nuendo is well worth the time / cost to learn.
Totally agree with you especially the latest versions Cubase/Nuendo 👌
I’m loving it so far!
@@BarryJohns Also there’s a great community of users and CZcamsrs. And as you mention , if you do get into post or surround / Atmos, Nuendo is a great tool for it.
Great choice and good advice! I've had to go from professionally using Pro Tools for 20 years, to trying Reaper for a year or two and finally settling on Nuendo for its ability to do EVERYthing so well, including composition, mixing, 5.1, post-production, sound design, etc. It switches seamlessly and the Control Room feature alone saved me thousands of dollars. Once you learn how to program macros and key commands to your liking, its like wearing a glove. And the stock plugins are extremely good. Good luck.
I also bought the course from Chris and it is absolutely a wonderful tool to learn Cubase. I also love your straight forward approach. Your honesty and humility are very refreshing. Thank you for your site.
For my previous job, I had to virtually test every DAW under the sun… and all I retain is that most DAW just do the same thing for 90% of the time. Sometimes some features are just named differently, presented differently, but they do the same thing. So the end user can just use whatever s/he likes the most, and is the more efficient with. What really matters is to learn how to use the new DAW so it becomes completely transparent when we have to focus on making music. However, the more DAW we try, the more confused we can get, mismatching shortcuts… so I would recommend to stick to the DAW you know the most unless you’re fully unhappy with it. Stop changing DAW at every news announcement just because a competitor DAW has now have 1 feature your current DAW doesn’t have… the more you will switch from DAW to DAW, the less efficient you will become. Of course, like many I was using Protools in the Studio, 10 or 15 years ago, we had to have Protools, it was even a question we were hearing from clients. But in 2022? Not anymore, nobody cares if we have Protools, Logic, Cubase, FL Studio or else… So just use what you like.
Good watch.. thanks for posting..
I am in the same boat, Protools since 1998 for post, now migrating slowly to Nuendo 12. Thank you for this video, I will check the training course out! It’s been painful so far.
Find the one that’s best for you. Words to live by!
Chris’ training completely made Cubase make sense for me - so good!!
Great video Barry, I made the leap from PT to Cubase/Nuendo years ago and I can appreciate how daunting that move was. Looking back though, It was the best move by far, both musically and professionally, and Chris is a great resource as well. Sometimes ya just gotta get work done and PT is where most start but, sometimes you want to be creative and enjoy the process. Cubase/Nuendo can do both easily and powerfully.
$130 for a course!! I taught myself Nuendo in about three months because it’s so in depth, more than any other daw. I’m still learning things about it. To me, it’s the best all around DAW. A good combination for music and video work.
But here lately, I found myself working in Studio One because of its simplicity. Plus I’m training someone how to use Studio One.
Plus, checkout adding Wave Lab to Nuendo. It’s their dedicated mastering Suite, kinda like the project page in Studio One.
Absolutely. When I learned Ableton live in 2007, I took a Groove3 tutorial lesson and in two days I was working it. Same with Harrison Mixbus 32C. I will only read manuals for my reading pleasure
I switched from pro tools to logic and it was like breaking out of a cocoon of sh** into heaven
With the new features that are introduced with each version, even a lifelong Cubase user like me finds that I am constantly learning. I totally agree with your recommendation here. I purchased and have been using the Mixdown Academy Course since its early days. Being able to go back to the videos for quick refreshers is great. Also, as new DAW features are added to Cubase, Chris will add updates to the course accordingly. The Mixdown Academy is some of the best studio money I have spent.
Excellent talk. Thanks
I have used Cubase since 1987 on the Atari ST, but when I became fed up with Avid (ProTools user since 1993) and subscriptions in 2019, I went to Nuendo. I also use the UF8, which I bought last December. It has been a long wait since getting my Mac Studio Ultra in April, but things are finally getting there. I use primarily Spitfire, Native and EW VI's. I just did a 2 hour documentary for Nat Geo International with a surround mix, and they demand the stems are delivered in a ProTools session. I am happy to see you using Nuendo. It is a remarkable program and the UF8 is great with it. I set up up the F1-F8 for soloing my surround speakers.and it was brilliant.
Very cool video Barry!!! Glad to see you settled on switching to Nuendo/Cubase. I have had Cubase since 2011 and later purchased Pro Tools a couple years later mainly because it is/was the "Industry Standard" but, like you, I'm not real crazy about what Avid has done the past few years in terms of pricing/subscriptions and even their feature list. Other DAWs have had some features for years that Pro Tools is finally getting around to implementing but they are still dragging their feet big time in terms of native Apple Silicon compatibility. I'm glad to hear that you purchased Chris Selim's training. I have not done his formal training but am considering it (mainly because of the price you mentioned) being that I don't know Cubase as well as Pro Tools - I could probably mix on either but, like you said, I don't know either one like the back of my hand and in order to be more efficient, you really need to know whatever DAW you'll use really well in order to not waste time finding how to do things.. I have watched a number of Cubase video's by Chris Selim and Dom Sigalis but will check out Chris' training (not sure if Dom has any training).
Since you have been using Pro Tools for a billion years, it would be very interesting to see what things you experience in Cubase/Nuendo that you either can't do or you have so create some kind of work around in order to do them in Nuendo. Two things I have found that Pro Tools has are it's "Import Session Data" and it has a way of doing "Dual Mono" plugins on a stereo track - like a drum bus or vocal bus where you don't want what's being compressed in the left channel to compress the whole bus so you use a dual mono plugin.
Anyway, I appreciate your channel. Keep up the great work and keep the video's coming.
I figured the this was the teacher you chose, because his videos are excellent and once I get things settled, I plan on joining his courses.
All I know is that I had the money to purchase the whole ProTools HD system. I been on PT since 2003-09. That changed when I heard a blind test between DAWs. Cubase Pro’s clarity, depth and warmth was giving me the “this is it” vibes! Not to mention it fully integrated with my 2 Avid Artist Mix and 1 Avid Artist Control. I am still finding out more great features as the DAW updates throughout the years. You have a built in Melodyne-like editor called Vari-Audio which sounds amazing. You can turn audio into midi and choose a VST to change the sound. The channel strip alone!!!! Nice sound! I believe Rupert Neve had something to do with the sound engine hence the Steinberg audio interfaces he created. He you look at the plugins, it has a Neve-like look. Welcome to the Steinberg family! Looking forward to seeing your next videos! 👊🏾💯
Great advice Barry, Nuendo is an incredible D.A.W but migrating from 25 years of Pro Tools use is never going to be easy and investing in a course is totally worth the money, as you pointed out tasks you perform frequently tend to stay in the memory when learning but anything that's used less often just vanishes into thin air and you have to recall those tutorials over and over! It takes years to learn any d.a.w well and the same will be true of Nuendo, but anything that can speed things up is a great idea... Im still a PT user but I am seriously considering Nuendo myself as I work to picture 99% of the time and it does everything that PT does and more... plus there's still issues with PT that are very annoying and not really acceptable given it's price tag, but then I won't get started on that! Great video Barry thanks!
Very good advice, thank you. In fact, I've been following Chris for some time now and I also decided to buy the course; I couldn't be happier...
Like you, I'm on the same DAW for more than 25 years, in my case Cubase. I was never tempted to change, yes, some updates or changes may have bugged me for a short period of time, but overall I'm pleased with my weapon of choice.
As someone who just transitioned from Pro Tools to Nuendo, like this week, I completely understand why you chose Nuendo. I'm doing film scoring, and Nuendo is hands down the best option for it, although Logic was tempting as well.
For me, the last straw with Pro Tools was showing up at a remote gig and the internet was out so I couldn't access Pro Tools, and ended up using Reaper, which was where I had planned on moving to. I ultimately picked Nuendo because it is so good at being a DAW and video scoring tool.
Thanks for the tip on mixdownacademy. I've been looking for exactly this to teach myself Nuendo.
After 10+ years on protools, and from 3 years now, I've switched to reaper, and never looked back. What a wonderful 3 years! Not only my workflow improved, my wallet is happier now hahaha. I've used some custom commands to make the change smoother, and a couple of months after, I've started to use reaper the way is meant to be used. I mix faster now, and edit like a ninja!
Same here, REAPER is extremely light weight and customizable 👍
Thank you, John for what you do for the community!
I just found out about that a Super Thanks even existed, so I'm sorry its take long to respond, I had no idea you had done this. Thank you so much, I truly appreciate the support!
@@BarryJohns You're welcome.
There is a weekly Club Cubase live stream on YT. A lot of that also applies to Nuendo.
Good talk! lol Chris has been my go to guy for Cubase related questions for ever! Excellent teaching style with no wasted time. Steinburg should buy him a small island in the bluest water ever for his services lol. He pretty much is the manual😆👍
Samplitude Pro X6 is an awesome DAW.
💯 percent agree! I switched from Pro Tools to Reaper about a year ago. Spent countless hours on CZcams trying to figure out Reaper. I’m finally getting to a place where I have some speed using it and really enjoying it. Don’t give up the DAW switch eventually gets better.
I used Nuendo since version 2.x. It was fabulous. Sounded great. Mixed tons of projects on it. Some won Grammys. Then I switch to Cubase because of price. Did the same thing with that DAW. Great stuff. And Greg Ondo is the very best. Ultimately I I switched to Reaper. It just made more sense for me to do that. But I get what you’re saying. The interfaces are fabulous with the Steinberg path. Good luck and happy mixing.
I started using Cubase in 1997 (VST24). In the 2000s I started using Pro Tools M-Powered, from version 5 to 9, then back to Cubase, which I was still using. Then about 8 years ago to Logic Pro. A few years ago I opened an old Cubase project in my still functioning copy of Cubase 8.5. I was shocked how clunky it seemed compared to Logic.
I’m only using Logic these days.
What you are saying is true, they all do the same things. You just have to find them!
Cubase for the WIN
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I have used Cubase for many years, And don't particularly have any problems with it. But after using REAPER, I ended up being charmed by it and made the switch. The fact I can still load up Steinberg instruments in reaper softened the blow. I think for those who use a DAW to work on other people's stuff and to produce it from an engendering perspective then you look at a DAW in a different way than those who use it to create. Cubase is great for a Pro Studio and really can rival Pro Tools there, especially with midi production being a bigger factor in modern music. But as there is a lot of home studios now there are so many options,I think REAPER is fantastic.
Studio One 3 was the first daw I learned and have been on it ever since but I have dabbled in Ableton…I’m going to make the switch but I’m definitely buying a course!
Cubase (Nuendo) is the most powerful DAW on the market - no doubt. Former Logic/S1/PT user here. And now ì´m very happy with Cubendo 12. Highly recommend.
I know people will try to jump on me as just some Nuendo fan boy, but thanks for the video it really will help people, I also have come to call Nuendo home after my own search.
Something that many people don’t know about, despite the internet’s global reach, is that they commonly only get content that is “relevant” to their region, I only found out by expressly looking for it, but PT is only the “standard” in the American market.
The rest of the world exists folks, and commonly PT doesn’t make the top 5 of the top 10 globally used DAWs. From Europe clear through to Australia, a standard DAW doesn’t exist, only what’s popular and DAWs like Cubase/Nuendo and Reaper regularly make it to the top 5 of the global market share. All these DAWs are viable, professional tools, Avid has simply made Pro Tools the Harley Davidson of DAWs. For those unfamiliar; Pro Tools (like HD Motorcycles) is a good product for sure, but it’s the company that is making the user base stagnant.
Chris is great, Dom Sigalas channel is also great too.
Having used Cubendo for nearly 20 years now I would say other daws are up to speed for mixing but the level of midi for songwriting is what sets it apart.
It’s why you see Hans Zimmer and many of the big composers using it as you get power of mixing + production, and couldn’t live without control room!
the lesson i learnt was that you need to try many DAWs to find the one that fits your work flow and mind set. Along the way you will gain a lot of experience that helps you to find the "right" one.
When I first started my journey, i tried Protools ( basic entry versions for sure). But i hated the language of functions and its limitations. I tried Logic and gave up after a week of frustration. I went to cubase 3 and i thought it did everything i wanted to but the bloatwere issues with HDD just drove me nuts. Every time you opened it up, something else would fuck up. Cubase 5 came out and i loved it even more...a masochist for sure. I was ready to invest at cubase 8 but then Then a friend suggested i try Reaper. I havent looked back and it does everything i need. If cubase people stopped adding more and more bloatware and SSD came out earlier, i would still be a Cubase user and non the wiser. I have checked out cubase 11 and thought what a beautiful and blingy interface. Very stable with SSDs too. Then i ran into its language and the Bling just gets in my way. Its like looking for the back space on a mac machine, absolutely infuriating for us windows people. No i aint going back there anymore. I even turned my PC into a virtual mac to play with garage band last year. I can understand how a first time DAW user can learn to love it. But its limitations, hence i draw a long bow to Logic, are so startling to me as a reaper user that i dumped that idea very quickly. I can understand why people cling to Protools. It was the tool of the times but the times they are a changing. I suspect protools is more in line with a big console mixing into a limited number of tracks on a tape deck. If thats your mind set, its probably the best since sliced cheese. The beauty of today is that there is one thats right for you, but you got to look for it.
Thanks. I have to learn both Cubase and DP well enough to get hired as an assistant and I need to learn them pretty fast so this is a big help.
*MOTU DP creams them all. And im glad no 1 but me uses it*
Great Video!
Glad you enjoyed it
Yup Chris Selim is pretty good also check out Dom Sigalis...
We all know Studio One is the best
The sound of your mic sounds spot on again. :)
Hey Barry, love your channel, I've been watching your videos lately, but just landed on this video today. Huge thanks for sharing my course link. So glad you liked my Cubase Course, knowing that it was that helpful makes my day. It would be cool to connect sometime :-) Keep up the good work!
That means a lot coming from you Chris! Would love to connect but until then have a wonderful Happy New Year!
@@BarryJohns You too, Barry, all the best for 2023! 🙂
Been on Cubase since the Atari days. I switched to it from a program called Notator which morphed into Logic. This was the time when cubase was midi only and it had to be time code locked to a multitrack.
If youre learning a new DAW get a notebook and do what scientists do and make notes. You can go back and refer to them when you need a reminder on how to do stuff youve only done once, instead of pouring thru your educational videos looking for the instruction. Youve picked a great DAW. Best of luck in your Nuendo journey.
I remember as well, how far we’ve come.
I went to Logic Pro X away from Digital Performer for a number of reasons...I have a MacPro computer, The Final Cut Pro integration, both are Mac products, the updates are free.... and also I use Softube plugins so that solved any issue about plug-ins.
Thanks!
Thanks. I had to go away from Cakewalk. After they went out of business I switched to the Mac ecosystem. What DAW? I took Logic, since I knew it from 20 years ago. Bad idea: My most important tool is Melodyne, not the DAW itself. My challenge was/is the lack of tight integration within Logic.
I lost a lot of time until I learned how this ARA stuff is working in the Mac world and which DAW do it right.
My lesson: it is worth spending 10-20% of your budget in learning how your tools actually work...
What else: Be sure, that you export all of your projects into a format your new DAW can handle. Worth a talk as well, Barry 🙂
Shoutout to Chris Selim! I also own that course, & I've been using Cubase for years.
Thank you for this video. Great points/advice given. Quickly, my story is this. Started off with Opcode’s Vision (before it became Studio Vision, yes I’m that old 😊) then moved to MOTU’s Performer (before it became Digital Performer. Again…old. 😂) I started using DP because my college was using it and, until recently, have been using it for over thirty years. I just bought two Studiolive mixers from Presonus and I just couldn’t get the freakin things going with DP. No joke, I’ve been searching for weeks for any scrap of advice to get DP and Presonus to play nice together. No such luck. If you can’t beat ‘em, join ‘em! I got Studio One. Still learning it, slowly. But I’ll get there. I hated leaving DP but the hardware made my decision for me. If I can ever figure it out, or find some lost morsel of advice, I may go back to Digital Performer. Until then, Studio One is the one. 🙄
In my case it was the other way around trying to use reaper but I like Cubase better. Control room is the feature that I liked the most. Wavelab is other tool that I like using with Cubase because of the cross-platform
Personally I use an average of 5-6 daws… primarily to stay out blocks… sometimes a workflow change up refreshes ideas significantly. I use studio one, pro tools, maschine, mpc 2.0, UA Luna, logic, and I sometimes dabble in fl studio or abelton.. same reason I bought a mpc-x and maschine so if I get stuck on a track on one I can go to the other and work on a different project in a whole different environment. In my experience most daws are very easy to figure out once you have gotten good in either pro tools or studio one. Love the videos!
I actually do the same thing. It’s kind of a relief to know there are other people like me out there. Still, I’m trying to narrow it down, basically because if you spread yourself too thin it gets expensive. I’ve decided to stick with Cubase and Pro Tools as my two primary DAWs, but I’m also going to keep REAPER installed since it’s so small, fast, and cheap.
Nuendo comes equipped with Dobly Atmos Renderer baked into thr software that supports up to 7.1.4 naively without additional rendering hardware and a MADI interface. I use Studio One Pro has my Music Production and mixing DAW while I'm currently demoing Nuendo for Atmos/Post Production while I get get ready to integrate Atmos into my existing setup. I can expand my MOTU AVB i/O with a single ethenet cable with another MOTU AVB interface and find th right sets of speakers for 5.1.4 or 7.1.4 and I'm good.
Reaper is the bomb!
Cubase / Nuendo wins for me.
I originally started with Cool edit Pro to Cubase. Cubase was tough. I moved to Ableton because of how easy it was/is to automate anything in ableton where at the time it was a huge pain in Cubase. It does what I need. It’s super easy to use. I do wish it had the plug-in view/channel strip vertically like most mixers and DAWs do where ableton doesn’t do that. Bla Bla Bla. Reaper sounds fun but I don’t have time to waste learning it.
Barry I’m the same as you I’m reflective learner 👍👍
i love your content barry. ive been reluctant to go all in on studio because the pro tools stigma still exist. will it ever go away ??
I used to love Nuendo, but Its 2022 so obviously Reaper !!! Reaper is brilliant. If you’re not a film studio Reaper, skin it if you need it to look like pro tools. You can add all the plugins and virtual instruments you want. Reaper is as easy or hard as you make it, and does not cost stupid money. Just about every piano orchestra synth etc is available, with a free patreon supported clone type version, or buy stuff, tone boosters bundles, analog obsession, blue cat, etc analog processing fx or what ever you want.
There is NO NEED TO SPEND £100s and £100s on buying a daw for h to r convenience of ‘oh, it comes with instruments and pretty fx processors.’
And reaper’s own range of fx processors etc number in the 1,000s. Remember £ millions backing Reaper unlike Steinberg, sale of WinAmp enabled development of Reaper
Is this Cubase Course helpful for switching to Nuendo? Does Nuendo go much deeper or similar GUI/Functions?
Cubase here, best investment I made. :)
You’re so right! How quick I am to shell out or save up for something I want. But $150 on a course? no way! Lol I am at that point tho. Buying things isn’t the answer anymore.
As a Studio One User Looking For a Daw That Uses Less CPU Usage.. Reaper Comes to Mind But its Not User Friendly Compare to S1.. Cross Out Reaper For Me..
for mixing EDM music, is it better the plugin that comes with Cubase or Studio One?
You are basically a pro. With studio one you need to go with a studiolive 64s and it will do what you want.
Been a Nuendo fan since it came out..after that went to Logic..probably wouldn't have a problem going back..
I was using Ableton live since 2012 for mixing large projects, but I found that Cubase works even more, including Pro Tools lately. I want to use Pro tools more, something about it, it feels like music. Before Ableton I was using Samplitude Pro, including other DAWs over the years, since 1998, starting with Fasttracker II tracker software on DOS. So far, my clients are very happy with the results.
I’ve always enjoyed using ProTools, I just won’t deal with Avid, for me I can’t accept the way they deal with their customers. Either way, use whatever you feel helps you the most.
@@BarryJohns that's true.
Ableton made a lot of good changes recently and my choice. Studio One is cool too. FL pop ups make it a nightmare. Reaper seems to be a very flexible DAW. To each his own.
I really like Studio One @@abelanc1090
Another Cubase/Nuendo user here. I never enjoyed PT and only ever used it when there was no other option. Maybe it's because I have been a user since the early 1990's but Cubase suits my way of working and it has always had functionality long before the same thing is implemented in PT.
Welcome to Steinberg land!
I've used Sonar, Reason, Reaper, 2 yr sub for Pro Tools, Logic Pro. and Ardour. For a $1 per month I prefer Ardour. For a paid for DAW, Mixbus and Mixbus 32C (Harrison 32C Console model) are like sitting down to a console. Mixbux is fabulous for home studios, song writers, etc.
I am totally agree with you the money that you pay for the course will save to you many hour looking videos in CZcams. Another oction for learn is Groove 3 or Udemy. Thanks
What is the training course that you purchased?
What training course did you use so I can use it to?
Gb & soundtrap to Logic Pro x and I’m finally happy 😊
I am very good with Pro Tools, Reaper, Cakewalk. I had a real hard time learning Cubase and when I did become more competent I ultimately did not like it.
Honestly it was hard, real hard, but once I got over the hump it’s actually great!
Keep in mind I’m on the most recent version so things may have changed since you tried it. It’s not for everyone. I actually prefer Studio One, but the integration with my UF8 control surfaces is superior for my workflow in Cubase:Nuendo.
@@BarryJohns great channel bro. Love to see some hardware reviews on some cheaper things like ART offers.
It's really hard to pick a DAW if you don't know what you want. I've used them all, and ended up on Logic, but that's because I'm primarily a songwriter and I love the collection of synths, drummers, drum machines, etc. I use Ableton for my live gigs, but boy did it have a learning curve. It's built around the idea of composing music out of loops, which I don't do.
I have a loooong memory, too, and Cubase used to absolutely suck on the Mac. It was full of bugs. I'm sure it's much better now.
I started with Nuendo before Cubase. Cubendo is mainly designed for Professionals. Whether recording bands, or composing as a solo artist w/midi. Cubase or Nuendo is very capable of composing ANY STYLE of music frm EDM, to Trap Hip-Hop, Rock, Jazz. The whole 9yards !!! Definitely the most versatile of all DAWS👈🏾 FACT-CHECKERS
Did you try Digital performer?
Hi Barry and welcome to Steinberg world! :) I'm glad you joined me! If you need ANY help about Cubase, just ask me. I would love to help you for FREE of course.
Thank you, I may just do that at some point! Loving it so far!
@@BarryJohns you are welcome.
Why did you not like Studio One? The User interface is great looking and it's easy to use. The Pipeline XT is great for Analog hardware. The drag and drop and the features are awesome. What is Nuendo? Lol
No surround or Dolby Atmos mixing
Nuendo is just another DAW, like PT, S1, Logic, Live, DP, BW, LUNA, Waveform, etc. They’re all DAWs, and each of us is allowed to have something that does and does not work for us. When I was doing my own research I did find that S1 is easy to use but it just was not for me - I just didn’t feel like it fit me while I was learning about it, I learned PT in school but couldn’t continue to afford it and that allowed me to become disillusioned to the “industry standard” ideology that Avid pushed, Reaper kept me afloat while I was working off of my crappy Lenovo thinkpad, when I got my first Mac, Logic was an absolute beast that I gelled with better than I did PT or Reaper, My interface allows me to use LUNA and I do like it but it still has work to be done on it before more people will be willing to see it as a serious market competitor, I couldn’t touch Live because nothing about it made sense to me, even though thousands of others use it with great understanding. I’m still on a Mac but I use Nuendo as my daily now, it is just what has worked best with my brain, what presented me with the most compelling feature set, and it fits well with what I envision for my future goals
@@ThatGuy-ru8ms thanks I will take a look at it. I may discover that I like it better than studio one.
Use Logic, Live. But everything still winds up in Pro Tools. The way labels/artists send sessions from around while tour still need PT. PT Sessions come in and have to go out just as fast in PT format. Tried to stick with Logic a few years ago and it didn’t work out. My billables would suffer greatly if I’m out of that label/artist loop. I hate what Avid has done but I’m pretty much stuck since my first PT Mix+ rig decades ago.
@BarryJohns What was it about Logic that didn’t work for you?
Thinking about switching to Apple from pc. I need to upgrade my computer and the latest pc based thunderbolt is not stable enough for my Apollo x8p, per Sweetwater tech. Since I have pro tools and would have to purchase the Apple version, I am really leaning toward switching to Cubase Pro 12. My question, will there be a problem using all my many plugins with Cubase's Apple version?
Check the website of the plug-in manufacturers to confirm they have VST3 versions. I’m sure they have VST2 versions and most have updated to VST3.
Also makes sure they are Apple Silicon M1 Native. Most are there at this point.
There has never been a better time to switch to Mac due to the new M1/M2 processors. You can get more computing power than ever now at a lower cost.
I have many videos demonstrating the power so make sure you pick the best machine for your needs.
Also, if you are currently deep into PT workflow and terminology the transition will be tough without investing in the type of course I talked about in the video.
@@BarryJohns wow, thanks so much for the reply. Most of my plugins are waves and more than a year old. I do have the slate bundle. I'm not afraid of the learning curve. I have lots of time🤣. But I do have a fair amount invested in plugins. I am really intrigued by the new Mac Studio computers Thanks again.
@@danaparsons854 I have 3 or 4 videos demonstrating the various abilities of the new MacStudio where I also give advice on the best option as well.
Reaperrr
I've been using Cakewalk Sonar since 8.0...I'm currently using Platinum and it just doesn't seem to handle vst3 very well and I'm def getting VERY frustrated with all the dropouts and freezing.
Bitwig is great for modular users.
Try Reaper!!
It´s a shame that I have heard so many youtubers ditching Protools, I have never used protools but i´m sure it´s a great daw. But if the company is getting greedy then of course they will lose costumers. I have been a Cubase user since about 20 years back, it´s my main daw and it has really matured over the years. I have never felt that Steinberg have made me pissed off, they have even ditched the infamous dongle-key in Cubase 12 :-) That said, if Steinberg are starting to bugging me then i´m not a stranger to changing daw.
I switched from Studio One to Nuendo and got it for half price when steinberg announced the crazy sale. I say nuendo is rock solid and way better than Studio One in terms of routing and surround capabilities. Dolby Atmos in the box is what got me sold at such a ridiculous price!
Nice video Barry thank you. My plan for a new DAW is to find the best compliment to my current DAW (Pro Tools / Omni HD), then gradually migrate more of my workflow into it as part of the learning curve. For me this basically is Pro Tools for linear recording, mixing and mastering; and a new DAW for writing, arranging and "sidecar" utilities. Logic Pro seems a nice match and I'm also exploring Cubase.
Question, how do you think DAW choice impacts hardware choice for a new interface? Does Cubase integration favor the Steinberg AXR4, versus say Logic Pro running Apogee?
Also look into Ableton Live when it's on sale for the purpose of writing and arranging. It's Session Grid works great as a songwriting sketchpad. I haven't tried it, but Logic added a grid a year or so ago, so that is another good option.
Hi Sean, I've been running Bitwig 3.0.3 here for its grid features - I nearly reactivated to the newest v4.5 but am favoring Logic as soon as I'm on Apple Silicon and can test drive the newest version. It has an okay grid plus some other arranging features that may be useful to me. Regards
Hello toobvu 👋
I wanted to hopefully give you an answer to your hardware question.
I have a UA Apollo interface, it’s been the only interface I’ve had through Pro Tools, Reaper, Logic Pro, LUNA, and Nuendo. With LUNA being the lone outlier, none of these DAWs felt held back by my only having the one interface between them, no essential or necessary feature or workflow was interrupted or inaccessible.
Now Steinberg’s interfaces are a compelling purchase anyway because they are cost effective, but using a Steinberg interface offers no additional benefits when using Cubase/Nuendo than if you used any other interface.
You mentioned Apogee and Logic Pro; the same thing as stated above applies here as well. The sole difference is that Apogee is currently the only manufacturer that makes use of the device control feature that is in Logic.
So overall, I would say that while there are exceptions (ex. LUNA needing the Apollo interfaces and Logic/Apogee in a very non-essential way), DAW and hardware choices can be done entirely independent from each other. After all, even my own studio aspirations have me running Nuendo, using my Apollo in the control room, and using Dante enabled pre’s in the live room. I just have the Apollo and DVS as an aggregate device and everything is happy.
@@ThatGuy-ru8ms Thanks sincerely for your insights. 👍
While I use both PT and Reaper as my daily driver, I do like a lot about Cubase.
One thing that drives me nuts though: if you write mute automation to a track, once you have done that, said track becomes solo safe for no reason at all. This is infuriating in practice and while there’s always the Listen button, that doesn’t allow you to hear the ‘Listen’d’ through your mix bus processing. My workaround is to use fader/channel strip plugins that have mute buttons for automating mutes. It works but shouldn’t be necessary. I have no idea why they don’t fix it.
One other thing that’s worth noting is that with Cubase/Nuendo: it is super important to use the recommended-for-Cubase number of cores with VIs when setting up that preference in said VIs. Doing so cured a ton of otherwise inexplicable cpu issues that used to drive me nuts as well.
Best of luck!
May I ask why do you personally use both PT and Reaper?
I'm a PT user since 2018 and I love the workflow in it but I've also used Reaper in the past for certain projects where it was needed because it was literally the only thing that would run on that particular PC at the time.
Since then I decided to integrate Reaper as a backup DAW but what are the main reasons for you and your workflow to use both platforms?
Thank you in advance.
@@JesusArmasOficial Sure. Basically, if I receive something to mix or edit or prep for someone else to mix in PT, I happily use it. For mixing, audio tracking and audio editing I am perfectly happy using PT. If, however, I am starting a production from scratch where I will be working on it straight through from tracking and programming to mixing and mastering, I will generally use Reaper (which I have set up to mimic the vast majority of PT’s key command workflow). Basic reason for me is that PT still leaves a lot to be desired in the midi/programming department, so, for me, Reaper is a bit like PT if it was updated and on steroids.
I will say that the two areas where I still prefer PT’s workflow are in that it uses playlists rather than a take system and that it has track based edit groups, which I find to be a much better workflow than the item based grouping of Reaper. That said, the dev builds that are made available for people to test and report bugs on seem to indicate that both track based edit groups and a Reaper version or playlists are both in the works.
I like Cubase and Logic as well - they both have their strengths and some cool ideas, but Reaper is the only one where I can mix and edit as fast as in PT and still benefit from the more modern midi workflows available in all other DAWs.
I've always liked Steinberg as a company but resisted due to that draconian eLicenser scheme. Now, since 2022, that has been replaced with a more friendly, modern, and dongle-free licensing system. Thinking of giving Cubase 12 a go by purchasing a "crossgrade" from PT for just $215 right now.
Reaper has replaced all my other daws. Studio one I wanted to like but it didn't work out.
What didn't you like on Studio One ? I'm starting to learn music production with this one, so any advice is cool ahaha
Tracktion Waveform 12 Pro. The flattest learning curve.
How well does cubase/nuendo run on Apple silicon Macs as I've been using logic and since moving to an m1 based system it runs like complete garbage
Any issues I've had have been user error and not tied to Nuendo, so I'd say really good, at least for me. I was concerned as I'd always heard they were better at Windows Drivers than OSX.
Reaper can be skinned to look and act just like Pro-Tools 👌
It can, but unfortunately the workflow cannot without a ton of time and programming. Got tired of customizing and not actually working. Went with Nuendo instead.
@@ranajoyshil You misunderstood. It wasn't that I couldn't get things to work. I meant that I was spending more time customizing and not working on music or Post work. It's easy to fall into the trap of endlessly tweaking key commands, the layout and scripts and not actually making something. Some personalities function better with imposed limits and endless choices can be a bad thing. Much like having too many plugins, you can waste creative time searching through a list of 150 compressors, when you only need 3. Reaper can be like that. It's a tweaker's paradise and I was falling into that trap.
@@ranajoyshil I literally just said that Reaper didn’t work for me. If it works for you, great. Enjoy it and do what you do. Pro Tools and Nuendo pay the bills for me. I invoice for the work I do in those DAW’s and that’s all that matters to me. Stop taking my choices personally because they don’t align with yours.
@@ranajoyshil nah. You were pushing for a response like that.
Why arent we attempting FL Studio? they have improved a lot🤷♂️
I use Magix Samplitude Pro X 4, there's absolutely NOTHING that would cause me to change DAW's. This software does anything I need it to do with ease.
Sequoia was my daw pretty much since it came out. I'm moved to samplitude x7 now and haven't bothered reinstalling seq12, my last version, on the new computer.
The one thing that had me pulling my hair out with samplitude (I went x4, x5 because free spectralayers and x7 finally a proper xfade editor) was stability. How they went from the most stable program in the known universe to "crash if you move selected automation around hit play and save too quickly" with an undo which again is hit and miss when working fast was depressing. Less stable than pt12 depressing. And not fixing comparisonics and the 'oops I hit spectral cleaning' bug. And the weird meaningless name Aug thing if you change their order. I was pretty much at the 'hold off new stuff' get it working right stage.
But even with the moans it's a fantastic program for working fast and the supplied effects are fantastic.
I still find aaf export shakey, I miss protools ability to record a mix and punch in changes directly, support for prores or dnxhd video would be nice. I find mp4 no good for precision and going via one of their video programs is clunky.
The ability to edit the miultitrack source file of a bounce then update the bounced file in situ with a mouse click is fantastic.
The ease of swapping what file an object is using is also great.
Horses and courses. Early days on x7. I've not crashed out of it yet.
Welcome to Cubase/Nuendo!
Loving it!