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Best DAW (for me) in 2023
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- čas přidán 17. 08. 2024
- What is the best DAW? The answer to this question is going to be different for everyone.
In this video, I will discuss which DAW I've chosen to be my next main DAW, and I will tell why.
Video Content:
00:00 - Intro
00:26 - Studio One
01:50 - Cubase
03:29 - Reaper
04:59 - Logic Pro
05:39 - Mixcraft
07:22 - Digital Performer
08:49 - Ableton Live
10:29 - Bitwig
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I've been with Bitwig since it's launch ( I do use multiple DAWs ). Another great thing is the 'plugin sandboxing' , I don't remember a plugin ever crashing the DAW, it just carries on like nothing happened. The modular system allows you to do pretty much anything that you can think of and they are also early adaptors of the CLAP plugin format.
So glad you liked Mixcraft, most underrated DAW under heaven. Cristal-clear workflow, score editor and a clip launcher. Sister company of Cherry Audio, BTW.
DP is so underrated and it's unfortunate the users are not more visible online. MOTU really needs a good social media team to pump out content that highlights just how good DP is. I've been using it since v2.7 and I'm now on v11. I prefer it to PT. I produce music on DP and only use PT when I need a mixing post workflow that requires smooth AAF turnarounds from Avid Media Composer. I wish MOTU would fix the AAF compatibility with Avid - I'd love to do my mixing in DP instead of PT.
Best DAW is the one you have and has spent time learning...
The best DAW for the Beatles was 4 track tape machine . Bruce Springsteen did one of his later albums at home on a 4 track tape deck.
I use Bitwig and use less than 1% of it's features.
You guys all use what works for you.
It's simple really .
Important detail: Best DAW is the one you motivate(!) to spend time learning...
Important detail 2 : Beatles had Brian Epstein and George Martin from the start, recorded their first hits at EMI, and could later afford the best studios, arrangers and engineers in the world. Recording Sgt. Peppers took four months at hi-tech Abbey Road studios, using techniques never used before.
I use Mixcraft and have also been really impressed. As Supercy stated, they just released Mixcraft 10 and I'm really impressed with it. I've been impressed with Mixcraft from the get-go. It's inexpensive, full-featured and intuitive. Best of all, it was easy to install and get up and running. Version 10 is an impressive upgrade (for the ten or so days I've been using it). It's more attractive and even more intuitive. I'm impressed and sticking with it.
I’m sorry but I’m not quite sure
If I got it right, are you impressed now with Mixcraft or not?
I used mixcraft before and I loved it. Very easy to use.
I've followed the same path as you. After 30 years Cubase no longer happy, switch to Ableton Suite > to much complicated and the GUI🫣, unfortunately Studio One is a bit complicated too, but brilliant for mastering. Then Bitwig tested ... that's it, that's my NEW main DAW and after 3 years Bitwig I'm still more than happy 😍🥳 I‘m missing some features that other DAWs have, like native Video Support or recursive Midi record. But all is on the feature request list 😅
Still watching this, I can tell you that of the four main DAWs that have Clips and Session View like features, Live, Logic, Bitwig and Digital Performer. (sorry the Reaper script doesn't count), the two with full featured clips workflows are Bitwig and Live. Logic and DP have decent clip launching but both haven't figured out how to deal with blank clips, with Logic you get an empty clip if you want to have the previous clip to continue playing and in DP it's the opposite, you need an empty clip to stop playing a clip, this is a PITA when you use a Novation launchpad (which BTW is the only control surface supported by Logic). The other issue with DP and Logic and clips is in these DAWs they do not control the conductor or tempo track, so Session clips do not change the tempo of the song. Also Lol at you not choosing DP because of a small user base, then choosing Bitwig! DP and Bitwig are my main DAWs and the size of the user base was never part of the discussion, in fact IMO Logic suffers from the size of it's user base and the amount of noise it generates for youtube etc.
I'm also thinking of moving from Studio One to Bitwig for the exact same reasons.
Hi! I watched this video and realized that everything you say about me. I used to work for Studio One just like you. The first DOW was Orion Platinum. Probably no one knows about such a DAW.)) Fruity Loops was very popular at that time and now, but for some reason I couldn't figure it out, it seemed to me complicated and not intuitive, as it is now... Then came Studio One. I liked it very much. I worked in it for a while. And I also tried other DAWs like Reason and Ableton. I really like Ableton's Drum Rack as well as the Live looping mode. But I don't like the Ableton style of its interface. And I thought it would be cool if there was a program with the same Drum Rack where you could hang separate effects on each cell and there would be a Live looping mode and it would still look nice and understandable. And after some time, I found out about the release of Bitwig. It was exactly what was needed!
And I also used jürgen moßgraber's scripts for which many thanks to him! But unfortunately he does not have a script for my MPC Studio 2.
Thanks for sharing! Good to hear that you finally found the right DAW for you 👍
Reaper does work straight out of the box though 🤔
Cool video…Bitwig for live looping production / Ableton for live looping performances ✨
I stil like studio one, i do not using live looping and i play my instrumens and olso vst instruments ;)
I still go back to Ableton over Bitwig, even though Bitwig has some better quality of life features. There is one feature that makes it impossible for me to switch over to Bitwig for everything though, it’s not having retroactive(capture) recording. Also, a minor gripe, but I hate the color orange.
Which is that one feature if I may ask. To me it's the built in sampler plugin. And Ableton's time stretching is amazing.
The Simpler is so damn good man. And The M4L devices are ,well if you can think of something it's probably available as a m4L device. That's how good m4L is.
@@i_jetlag It’s the capture record. Also, being able to input a chord or notes, and use the arrow keys on the keyboard to input them with the length while holding the chord on a midi keyboard. Stock, saturator, glue compressor and drum buss. I use on almost everything.
I'm still waiting for a true live looping feature for Studio One. PreSonus should merge the show page with the song page, so we can have something like Logic's Live Loops. Also we need surround mixing and object-based audio mixing (Dolby Atmos or Auro-3D). I mainly use Studio one, and I also keep Ableton on the side just for Session View!
Now, if I had to be honest, I would say that Logic Pro is (looks) like the most complete DAW on the market at the moment. I won't use it since I prefer Windows, but it's great enough to be a strong system seller for Apple
Logic Pro use AU plugins only now .... no VSTs anymore 😢
@@LoaySax Yes, I forgot about that. It's one of the huge letdown of this software! A real shame, if you ask me
@@halogen5076 Its not that "huge", all plugin makers do AU anyways..
Edit: Sorry, all big ones atleast but many smallers too.
czcams.com/video/qz6_l5Y6ULc/video.html Just use this w S1
I would say there are only 3 truly versatile daws out there that's helpful for any kind of producer and engineer. Studio one,logic and cubase. All the others are mostly genre based or specialize in different parts of music production.
I used Linux for 25 years and started with LMMS (Linux Multimedia Studio). Then Bitwig came along for Linux and I started to use that. But the amount of instrument VSTs available for Linux is limited so I bought Cubase Elements. A friend recommended FL Studio so I purchased the full version, but it has a complicated workflow and i couldn' get the sound quality I wanted. After importing the sound file to Cubase I could immediately enhance the sound. So I ended up buying Cubase Pro version and have sticked to that. But a con with Cubase is the lack of an easy way to modulation, which both Ableton and Bitwig has. I have my old version of Bitwig from 2019 which I recently started up and will try to be creative in. I also downloaded an Ableton trial, but for me it's GUI is terrible and coming from Cubase everything is backwards.
Cubase is the best for Chord Tracks and Chord Progressions as you can edit the chord track and drag and drop to change a progression in a MIDI track below it to match, or drag random MIDI chords in just a MIDI track up to the chord track to recognize and name all the chords you have in that progression, it's some features you get nowhere else other than adding in something like Scaler which still doesn't use the closest inversion to migrate notes the least from the prior chord as you test and build progressions, as ChordPads do in Cubase. This kind of capability is overdue to be in every DAW.
Waveform, by Tracktion could have been on your list. It may be arguably the best publisher that puts out a very capable FREE starter version. It's a bigger player than Mixcraft and quite capable if nowhere as full featured as an Ableton or Bitwig for modern producers.
FL Studio could have also made your list. But many people find it a bit convoluted as I do having owned it for going on a decade now.
I agree that Bitwig has become a huge player and is a great choice, especially for people that like to leverage music creation "helper" tools and features such as the Chance, Random and Repeats using Euclidean rhythms, or Bounce and Ricochet and other features for arguably the closest thing to a generative ability even if you only use it for inspiration.
I'm taking advantage of the sale on until end of July where I can go from an 8 track version to full version for just $259... With all the sound capabilities it has, you'd be hard pressed to buy synth VSTs that provide all the sound capabilities you get for that kind of money when you consider the added value of all those generative tools, so it's like getting a very capable DAW for FREE.
TIP for anyone shopping: buying it from PluginBoutique will give you some reward bucks you can use on future purchases from them as they have some industry best sale price specials, along with AudioPlugin.Deals and VSTbuzz.com which together are the 3 places you should be checking regularly for deep discount deals.
It's extremely hard to switch from S1 because of how fast you can work with that DAW. But I do understand why one would choose Bitwig. But for live looping, I think Ableton still is the king.
I am on a rent-to-own plan for Bitwig btw. I love Ableton, especially the MaxForLive Plugins, Groove Pool and the simpler. Simpler is simply the best stock sampler plugin I've ever used. (Maybe FL Fruity slicer is nice too, but I switched from FL, 2 or 3 years back and never really used slicex that much. I wasn't really into sampling back in the day)
Bitwig's modulators might be the one thing that makes Bitwig a better option in some cases for live looping btw. Bitwig is a killer DAW. But S1 is so lovely to work in. 😊❤
Ableton live is your best bet for live looping hands down. Cakewalk is a great daw and Free. I’m trying out bitwig. But Irs a bit of a learning curve.
The live looping workflows on Ableton are next level, I admit it. Also there are a lot of people making custom very advanced templates and devices (even using max4live) and using ableton's LOOPER DEVICE. While bitwig has a clip launcher it lacks an audio-overdub device level looper like the ableton device.
Ableton also work good with live instruments. I play guitar and has never had a major issue with recording , pedals , or even amp sims.
I think because Cakewalk is free, for now, it gets ignored. But its been around a long time with a large user base. It's the only DAW I've ever used but I recently have been looking at FL Studio and find it interesting.
I use a very underrated Daw since 4 years Mulab from Mutools it include a modular system to build own instruments , plugins and containers of vst.
Really Mulab is a very interesting DAW
My respect more people should use mulab I'm a cubase and fl user but I love mulab sadly the fact that there's no many tutorials and stuff made me never embraced
Good video boss. I use ableton myself because of the routing options and ease of access. I do hardware electronics, and I learn on a tascam Porta studio, MKII 8 track and then strictly analog mixers until recently because of my current set up I am using a model 12,syntakt , sq1, electribe 2 red , and a modded tape deck. I’m finding so many different ways to configure it so I’ve been looking into different options.
Unrelated, but I did not look at the video for the first 10 minutes, and I could swear you sound almost exactly like this person
czcams.com/video/EzqyAZotX9Q/video.html
Hi 🙂 I came across your video by chance, i was on Ableton for many years and i also switched to Bit Wig, i don't regret it😱Modulations possible even on external vst, sample playback without creating a duplicate file on disk, the possibility of recovering your session without problem even when a plugin crashes (thank you😢), internal/external modular possibilities, etc🥰This daw suits me perfectly since i make experimental live music (Deep teck, Minimal...), it’s a powerful DAW and it continues to evolve constantly in the right direction🤔Good learning and good continuation a+
Very nice and sympathetic channel! Thank you for your work! 👍👍
Another pro about bw is that projects in Ableton, fl, and I think studio one and others are all compatible to use in bw you just cant carry over their plugins but still....
Logic Pro and Ableton are the best in the game rn imo only problem logic has is some workflow stuff and the Apple exclusivity ..
just downloaded bitwig it looks awesome. which community i can join for bitwig? can I please have the link to it?
Here's the deal. Find out what you want to do with-in a d a w. Once you figure that out, figure out how much money you want to spend.. "bang for buck."
There, you have it.
Wow. Your journey sounds so familiar: I started out on cubase over 10 years ago, went to studio One just needing a change around 2015 (really looking at as a new slimmed-down cubase) and over the last few months have been working on Bitwig!
Bitwig is a unique productional environment - as much as a modular instrument as a DAW. The feature that initially blew me me away (that no other Daw has) is it’s own internal modulation system that can read any 3rd party vst. That’s crazy!
I would say, with your years of cubase/studio one experience, you may find Bitwig lagging on backend mix features. I still mix and master my tracks in Studio one. Bitwig’s got a couple of versions to go to catch up there imo. 😊✌🏼
Great Video - Great and Honest Video - Thanks for sharing your findings and your discovery....
My favorite of all time is Ableton live ✅🫶🏻; best for sounds design and in overall,I can't find any cons for me at any case of usage!🧐✨🫰🏻💡 But I did use fl studio in the past for several years but at the end,I have to follow my heart in terms of satisfaction, inspiration and creativity my heart said goes for Ableton so couldn't continue with fl studio 🤓
Flstudio has looping feature, and didn't mention it
I just wanted to add that no MAGIX DAW was mentioned. Samplitude Music Studio, ACID Music Studio, MAGIX MUSIC MAKER, Samplitude Pro X, ACID PRO. As for support for Clip Launching... Not so much. As for very innovative features and the ability to work with clips along with VST ... Pretty Amazing. Just wanted to put it out there just in case it works for someone.
That's right - for windows user. And one of the best sounding DAW out of the box (I know, there is a big discussion about DAWs and "sounding"...
@@reskatze1049 what do you mean by its a besting sounding DAW? What are you hear that is different? ( I agree certain DAWS do sound different)
I use Samplitude and love it.
Worked on most Daw's apart from Logic but Cubase 12 is my winner.
Reaper does have an Ableton like session view. Its called Playtime, and it functions very much like a clip launcher like session view.
Great, clean video!
I love Ableton Live.
BUT I can't stand not being able to really deactivate plugins.
I'm considering Bitwig again.
I've used it in the past, but like you said it's far from polished.
Thank you, Wasabi! Good luck with whatever you decide to go with 👍
Why limit yourself to just 1 DAW? I use several of them, and I have a lot of FUN doing so.
Studio One 🚀
Use what you like. Bitwig is modular and was buikt by Aboeton live. Moss scripts are awesome
What is the best DAW for producing actual notation?
This was surprising to me man, I really thought you would end up on ableton! Good video!
Jurgen is the man, look at what he has done with Akai Fire and now with Akai MPC, the man is incredible.Bitwig is the best thing that has happened to music in decades.
I agree 👍
Is bitwig even in the top 5 daws?
Bitwig🔥👑
😉👍
I've been using ableton for several years. It does have all your saying but I'm more about raw audio recording. And then using sampler or simpler. And creating my own midi sounds that way. It all breaks down to what your used to.
Literally top three I’ve tried so far BITWIG…Studio one and last but not least Cubase
Great video! Yamaha BB 2000 in the background?
Thanks!
And yes, BB2000 ... very perceptive of you 😉👍
I really love Bitwig!
There is only the best choice for you personally. Everyone makes different types of music, different work styles, workflows, hardware expectations, and needs. Using a DAW for live performance isn’t even a remote need for me.
Phewwwww! I saw some lines saying FL is the best bla bla bla and while watchingI was like no way is FL! Come on! Haha bitwig not bad at all. Enjoy
I been making beats on FL for a long time and record on Pro tools. Looking to use a different daw for recording. Would be nice to do evrything in one daw and be fully satified. Would you recommend studio one or bitwig for making beats and recording?
10 months late. Bitwig is tops for sound design but is still immature on many features that are present on other daws, for audio recording and editing is not really that great.. Studio One on the other hand is great on both aspects and there are a number of beatmakers flexing it on their productions (beat kultr, bolo da producer, dilliot2k, nic rollo and others)
honestly I'd recommend reaper
That depends on what your are looking, i dont need live looking, i prefer Studio one, is like is Reading my mind, Ableton Live CPU is a shit, but is a good Daw
How can you do a "best DAW" without mentioning Propellerhead Reason !!??
I don´t know what Ableton is amateur my friend, since I use I can´t change for nothing because doesn´t make sense!, Its the Nº1 and fucky easy to work even for amateurs! But I understand not every DAW fits to everyone because a little detail or other! The best DAW is the one that fit to us, but Ableton is king... !
FL Studio v.21 BEST than ever ♥
kennt jemand ein gutes musikprogramm like FL oder magix doch mit mehr effects möchte auch gerne meine mpd konsole anschliesen
great video man!
Actually jurgen scripts for bitwig for novation controllers work better than native ones
Why do you need live looping
Maybe you should start a comunity for Mixcraft 10 but Bitwit for me is way to expensive
Audio Post : Protools
Unfortunately... Because all the rest aren't about compatibility within a Pro situation...
Just saying.
(Disclaimer: I started with Pro24 on atari, Then Cubase V1/2 with Midex, , Cubase VST on on PC (errghhh), Then VST studio/V5 on Mac..... Tried opcode, Tried Protools, etc etc etc)
But like all DAW's , what is what ?
So Logic doesn't run on windows....So , The title should be."The best Windows Daw."
Damn I thought it was gonna be Mixcraft... version 10 just came out :)
BitWik hahaha lekker hoor, dat Engels met Nederlands accent. 😉
En ik doe nog wel zo m'n best om 't niet te laten horen 😁
BITWIG has no competition. I've been using it for 6 month.
No tuner
Bitwig has potential! But S1 is better for now IMO
Bitwig can be better than daws like fl studio, Ableton etc in the future if they do things right. But daws like studio one, logic or cubase will be always more important and better overall than genre based daws like Ableton, bitwig or fl studio.
Bitwig may be a good DAW now , but they have a history of bad business practices.
Remember the "upgrade plan price scandal" in oct 2022?
Also in Sept 2021, instead of a trial they tricked people to install their cripple-ware
called "Bitwig Studio 8-Track" and saying it wasa legit functioning Daw.
They even let VST sellers offer it as a promo bonus gift in bundles in the VST sales.
It was horrid install process and it would popup with messages telling you to get the more advanced version if you clicked the anything outside of the basic stuff.
ANY other DAW company is better, if only for the simple fact they respect their customers better than bitwig
Why not FL studio on the list? xD
Mainly bc recording audio trks in FL is not conventional. That's its only problem.
@@drwavenstein Choose track, choose audio input, arm recording, and press record.
What is not conventional about that? 😂
Why not try making a daw in traction engine
Nice comparison !
The Bitwig developers are former Ableton developers.
No FL Studio ? Bro youre crazy
we knew that about cubase 14 years ago
y Cakewalk .Yes
Cubase is the best.
Studio one is nowhere near Cubase
What do do you think Cubase has that makes it so good?
i cant use velvet hybrid and mini grand and all programs suck there not like mpc beats
Nuendo
This guy is funny 👏👏👏👏😂😂
You should have considered reason ! It's a great daw!
most people going to say what's the best what they use and what provides what they want. .instead of being a realist and going by who has the most features and who do it better 🤣
Fl studio best of daw gang
Of course, when you use it ;-)
no....studioone is way better
But of course you’re wrong about that. Bitwig wins and that’s just fact.
😂
Studio One TRADER!! 🗣
🤣 JK
Bro didn't even consider FL studio
… Pro Tools 😏
This guy sounds Dutch
Kaas
didnt even consider fl studio? thats crazy
FL is a mess.
@@wasabi333 nah it’s goated
This Guy stuck To Live Looping 😅
Studio one is the cheapest version of Cubase😅
not too much information here
VER 3🤣🤣🤣🤣
Could of been a 4 sec video
True ... but what would've been the fun in that 😎
Welcome to the cult lol
Bitwig? Sounds like something a chick using in here hair extensions bru'. 😂
All, joking aside.
Being a hardcore technology professional, we like to stick with industry best practice standards. And, so like my vodka selection being the brand by which all others are measured Stolichnaya, I've selected Cubase. Think of it like this.
If ProTools is used in thousands of studies around the world, and that product is developed by ex-Steinberg .employees then in my technology brain Cubase is the industry standard by which all others have been developed. 👍
IDK bruh, strong opinion.
Dude, cubase is the best daw LOL
Abes is daddy
So many bla bla bla...😢😢😢
OK, so because you happen to use "live looping", you reject a whole lot of software that is otherwise superb. But how many people WANT live looping? Well, you and a number of other people who don't understand that there are far better ways to create music. Live looping is for people who haven't bothered to educate themselves musically and rely on "looping" instead to cobble together random bits of samples and midi tracks hoping that one combination or other results in a pleasing end, rather than taking an educated approach. So my advice is to totally ignore this narrow view of music software.
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First of all, you should have defined what "life looping" is , as you just assume that everyone knows what that is...smh.
But quite impressive and interesting video that has captive my attention on some point and daw that I probably should check out 🧐🤔🫂✨💡🤝🏻
Really?.... HA!