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How to disassemble and maintain the Protech Magic Automatic Knife
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- čas přidán 14. 03. 2018
- Today, we'll take apart a magical little automatic ('switchblade') knife, the Protech Magic, and see that once you get inside and see how the trick is done, the Magic is actually a pretty simple thing, done well.
Thanks for this video. I bought the Tuxedo version 3 weeks and the spring broke last week. I contacted them and they have me the option to send it in or they would send me a spring. I chose the latter. They have great service. Derek Lawrence from Protech has been a great help. I wouldn't hesitate to buy another Protech as I believe the spring breaking is a fluke.
I finally got my 1'st PROTECH & pretty much my favorite model offering which is an O.D. Green S.B.R.! Protech did a phenomenal job on this GORGEOUS Les George design! I absolutely love it! & if you wanna talk about a snappy, powerful action... it's a BEAST!
Tips to live by when fixing a knife: 1. If it's an automatic knife *open the knife before doing anything!* If you take it apart closed, every spring in that knife is tensed up, and once it's taken apart enough it will shoot out of there and possibly throw the blade at you causing major injury. 2. Use good torx bit!!! Cheap bits like the ones Kershaw and Benchmade sell are garbage. Use Wiha bits. Cheap bits aren't case hardened, so they wear and bend easily which causes stripped screws and a motley of other problems. 3. Before you Loctite a screw, *clean the screw!* Loctite is a glue, and glue doesn't stick to dirt and oil. Take the screw, pinch the threads in an absorbent, clean napkin, and using the tool turn it a few times. Get another clean spot and repeat. Now you can Loctite the screw and put it into the knife. Also, best Loctite I've every used is Vibra-Tite GEL thread locker (blue) - it goes on clean, doesn't run, and has excellent holding power. 4. Don't take your knife apart unless you have to. Seriously... the technicians at the factory know what they're doing, and very seldom do you ever need to take a knife apart.
Great post thank you
I must concur sir...
I know this video is 5 years old, but I picked up two of the discontinued Protech's BR-1 this week. one a pearl inlay and one an abalone inlay. Very nice knives, but so hard to deploy as to be unusable. With your video I took one apart and found at the tension bar below the back spring had been bent upward, probably in response to older comments of wobbly blades. I straightened the tension bar very carefully and reassembled - now the knife is a dream to deploy and no blade wobble - the sweet spot!
I got one of these and need to do this disassembly and maintenance myself. It's sticking and not opening with that beloved snap. It's also always had blade play (side-to-side) and has been ever so slightly off-center since I've owned it. It hasn't affected performance so I've just dealt with that. I love the knife. I carry it more than any other I own. It looks like their warranty allows you to disassemble and maintain them yourself now. It's still showing on their website so I wonder if it truly has been discontinued. Some major retailers are showing various versions as discontinued and some not at all. Shame if they did discontinue it.
Excellent video! Mine doesn't deploy great (super stiff!) and your video is just what I needed!
Protech has one of the best Customer Service departments in the business but they prefer that you send the knife to them for repair. However you can call Dave Wattenberg, the owner of the company, and insist that you do the repair yourself and he will send you the parts. I own 45 Protech knives and they all have superior fit and finish and deployment. Great video, Nick.
Frank Salem Dave is a pretty awesome guy to work with!
I messed up a calmigo once disassembling it, and Dave took pity on me for telling the truth when I called customer service. No charge for repairs. I do wish they would just allow disassembly, but he's definitely a decent dude.
In your experience, do Protech knives often have blade play from the factory? if so, that's inexcusable.
Thanks for the Break-down . I don’t think I could cross the line 👍
Thank you Nick for your disassembly videos. I can now correct a knife if it has a flaw such as blade play. I have been able to correct the smooth Ness of opening and closing.
I like to put lithium grease on the coil springs and on the sides of the blade under the scales on an auto. It reduces friction and should effectively block out grit.
When the knife doesn't rely on washers or bearings, an oil isn't terribly useful, and grease starts to shine.
That knife is just so damned clean, aesthetically.
Has anyone suggested "edjutainment"? You deserve your own category Nick. Thanks for all the great content and for helping me and my son take down, clean and (successfully) reassemble Whiskers #742. The old boy had a fair amount of accumulated pocket schmutz.
Nice knife. Clever design. Light,deep pocket clip .3 inch blade, been looking at one of these for awhile now.
Very interesting, great video! Thumbs up!
Excellent video. This will come in handy when it's time to clean mine up. It's a great little knife.
Trying to (unsuccessfully) add a detent ball ramp to my Ruike P801 when this went live. It was nice working on knives with you Nick. Though you probably didn’t notice.
Thanks Nick.
A little pokey pokey at the Vaseline 🏭
I like the simpleisity of this auto and the lock is a back lock and it is safer to carry vs a auto with a button. Thank you might add this knife as my only very high dollar knife I'll ever need I like knives at most 150 but this would be a knife to get because of its construction and ease thank you.
Love learning technical terms of knives like pokey =p thanks for the video
Nick I bought a protech tr3 elite the 20th anniversary s35v one . It’s rubbing somewhere I can feel it . I don’t see a tr3 that u did do u recommend me going in there or can I mess it up ?
Was that Thorburn disassembly supposed to go live last week? Usually you follow up with the review two days later...
What oil and thread lock do you use?
Okay just so everyone knows the days of using take it apart voids warranty are gone as this violates consumer laws. This clause would require what would be a lease agreement on a product which is obvious not the case here or other type products. You can buy it own it can check it out as you see fit.
Where can you get parts from for this knife ?
I ♥️ you and birdshot
Hey Nick, with regards to the red lock tight you came across there. The major DIY stores in Switzerland 'Co-op brico', have 3 grades of lock tight. The least adhesive is red. The knife might have been on vacation?
Red Loctite is exactly that, red *Loctite* which is a brand. Thread lock is what the product is called, and all companies use different color coding. Most people are used to Loctite, so they mistakenly assume it's the same across all brands.
wish i could pick one up here in cali
Reminds me a little bit of a Fällkniven tk4
I have been watching birdshot for about 3 hours straight
How would ProTech ever know if you opened one of their knives?
Are you going to sell this knife????
The #notabrilliantman seems to come apart when for either entertainment or education (hopefully both) you do an auto in 10 minutes. Eh?! 😉🙃
If Pro-Tech's warranty sucks, then every single knife manufacturer in the world sucks too because ALL of them, without exception, will say that disassembly voids the warranty. They do this because customers take apart their knives thinking it's easy to put back together, and they either can't get it back together properly or lose parts. Then the knife company is stuck putting hundreds of perfectly fine knives with zero issues back together every month or sending free warranty parts out that cost them a bundle over the course of each year. If they were serious on this clause, then they wouldn't have the phrase "All disassembled knives will be charged a $30 assembly fee" in the warranty. I worked in a knife shop and spent a LOT of time putting knives back together that customers messed up. It's annoying. Customers take apart a knife for blade play that's barely a more than a hair, can't get it back together, then rely on us to do it; and once it's back together the play is STILL THERE because if you tighten the pivot more, the blade binds and won't open. Trust the manufacturer to do their job.
Chris Reeve or Olamic give you tools. Don't talk when you don't know.
Let's see, CRK Warranty:
NOT COVERED -
(a) consumable parts, such as screws, washers, or hardware, unless failure has occurred due to a defect in materials or workmanship
(d) damage caused by *disassembly*, accident, abuse, misuse (e.g. use as screwdriver or pry bar), or other external cause, including damaged caused by excessive and/or aggressive blade flicking (rapid opening and closing of a folding knife);
(e)damage caused by *service* (including "upgrades" and cosmetic treatments) performed by *anyone who is not a representative of CRK*
They may give you the tool, but you mess up anything and you're paying for it. It's the same reason other companies tell you to NOT take it apart. Ask yourself, if you can take it apart and put it back together - HOW WOULD THEY KNOW YOU TOOK IT APART? So you either say "Don't take it apart!" or you say "well if you do, and ANYTHING goes wrong, you're paying for it!"
I've worked for several years at major knife retailers and have met most all of these makers. Funny thing with the internet, you really never know who you're talking to. I have plenty of experience with all of the major manufacturers, and they prefer you don't take the knife apart - so yeah, I do know.
"Void for Damage caused by disassembly" is different from "Your warranty is plain void even if you do it right". I don't mind the former, the latter is ProTech
Nick Shabazz like I said, everyone does it. You love Spyderco so much, same clause in their warranty. Benchmade, zero tolerance. All the same. Very few makers don't have that clause, but the ones that don't have it want you that you'll pay if you break things - it's the same thing. Crk also charges for screws and etc... Pro-Tech doesn't. So the company that warns you to not do it is more lenient on those who do. How does that work? Because it's a warning to keep people from screwing up the knife.
Nick Shabazz also consider, a Chris reeve is not an auto. It's nowhere near as complicated. Everything has to fit perfectly on one, and even reassembly is tough. So of course an auto knife maker doesn't want anyone to take it apart. Also, if you do it wrong, you stand a major chance of getting hurt. The spring unloads and flings a razor sharp blade at you. Not to mention parts fly out and get lost - so now Pro-Tech has to ship them to you *free of charge* which costs them time and money. So there's a ton of reasons why they have that. Calling them on it like theyre the only ones with the policy is also disingenuous when it's virtually ubiquitous throughout the industry. If it voids the warranty, why is there a reassembly fee? Gotta read between the lines and consider things from the manufacturer's side too before you try to nail them on it.
6:00 lets pop, lock and drop this guy
Hello Nick
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You are more forgiving of protec for voiding the warranty if you disassemble than you are of piranah.
Wow I m the first person to comment
Hahahahaha so much lube!
Cleaning with a q-tip lol. Add in micro fibers and oil to a spring mechanism. Oiling an auto knife is just plain stupid.
The absolutely best way to maintain a knife is *not* to mess with it.. mess = disassemble it. Buy a LEGO Death Star if you have fidgeting issues :P
HerrBlackwood so what do you suggest doing if your knife gets gunked up by something or the action isn't as good as it is to be
HerrBlackwood Depends on competence surely. With the right tools and some practice, most people can do it. +Nick is just a random jackass!). I am far from mechanically minded but I have fixed off-centred blades, lock stick and a gritty action. But I know my limits.
1. Wear it in. In case it gets "gunked up" flush it with hot water/kerosene and a toothbrush, let dry or blow dry, apply oil. problem solved. It has worked for me since 1984
2. If it still isn't satisfactory in the action - send it back. That's the only way to "force" manufacturers to tighten up on QC.
Tony: Did you allow the knife to wear in? I remember a Griptilian i had. When i got it i "had to" loosen the pivot 1/4 turn, then i got blade play. Guess what - when i had used the knife for a week or two the pivot screw was back in exactly the position it cam with :)
HerrBlackwood ~ Maybe that is the best way for you to maintain or not maintain your knives, That would only be the best thing if someone doesn't know what they are doing. Plus like me and most knife guys, that is part of the enjoyment, disassembling and taking care of the knives.