Sage, Witchcraft, and Discipleship
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- čas přidán 15. 07. 2024
- For the final episode of the season, we're answering questions from our Patreon Saints. They wanted to know if Jackie disciples people she doesn't know, our thoughts on witchcraft, and more.
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“You know you’re a mature Christian when you don’t need to feel close to God to know you’re close to God.” Man that was good!!!
This is me ❤ I love love love JESUS ❗️ WOOOOOH!
The only thing I would change in that quote is the last part…. God is close to us….my confidence comes from knowing that God is close to me, I’ve been a Christian 30 years, my mentors are in their 80’s we know a thing or two…. And believe me no one boasts about being close to God we boasts about how God is close to us….theres a difference .
What a quote! "Witchcraft started in the garden when Eve and Adam decided to get power apart from God's will." 😮.
That’s so true that’s what witchcraft literally is
Except there was no Garden or an Adam or Eve, that story is just a story!
@@dugebuwembo why do you say that? One day our conversation right now could be considered as a "story" as well, especially if we had it in person.
Yes that was mind blowing
@@KManwarren Evolution, speciation and population genetics. Human beings are part of the Genus Homo which included several different extinct species, we modern humans (homo-sapiens-sapiens) are the last surviving lineage.
Human evolution is a story spanning at least 7 Million years. The ancestral population of humanity (modern humans) stood at least 30,000 individuals going back 300,000 years in Africa. There was no first man or woman, that's not the way evolution & speciation work. Evolution & speciation work at the population level which means that 2 individuals are not the progenitors of any species.
“We need help from God to obey God”
Such a simple yet profound statement 😩
@with the Perrys as an African woman. I pray for all my American brothers and sisters who are moving to “african spirituality” because it is in fact some of the oldest and highest levels of witchcraft.
It's so blatant, I often wonder how they don't see that is witchcraft
Amen 🙏🏿
and its sad that most of us that live in Africa are aware of how dark it is but others see it as exotic…
True
We (true African Christians) know what Jesus saved us from! No going back!
As someone who was highlllly wrapped up in “new age” Preston, hit the nail on the head! At the root, I was simply searching for authority over my own life. I felt so weak and I had finally found something that made me feel powerful. Plus, the way it made others uncomfortable made me feel rebellious and I liked that I finally was not playing small anymore. I’m so grateful that God allowed me to experience this and didn’t take me out! 😂😂 I surrendered two years later when Covid popped off. He was right there waiting for me too. I grieve and pray for those I influenced / encouraged to do the same just by watching my life and I pray the Lord shows them that same grace and mercy ❤️
i had a spiritual awakening before covid popped off , nothing with new age stuff but being rebellious and things like that. one day i decided Jesus was all i needed and never looked back.
Thanks for sharing, helpful
In a Sermon I watched recently, Pastor Jerry Flowers said, “You can’t give therapy to a demon!” & I felt that. 😂 Some people need straight up DELIVERANCE, period!
Love y’all!! 💗
I absolutely love Pastor Jerry Flowers! I just recently found him as I had been watching The Perry's, Sara Jakes, and Priscilla Shirer.
@@knelson2019 watch Tim Ross also. The man is awesome and a blessing from God!
@@Vangerlena10 oh, I have been! His authenticity is healing to my soul. Just recently discovered him and I am hooked!!!!!
@@Vangerlena10 I had to come back and asked if you watched his interview with Jackie Hill Perry???? Mind-blowing, my two faves in the basement! It was epic!
5 months later and this is still SO funny 😂😂😂
Dear Jackie, please believe Perry when he tells you that you are beautiful because you are, both outside and inside. You and Perry are such a sweet, compatible couple. I enjoy your interaction. 😊
She truly is
“We want to see how you live to learn from you.”
“Discipleship isn’t just what I’m able to articulate but it’s also what I’m able to model.”
So true about witchcraft and how to address it. I saw a testimony about a young girl who went into witchcraft to gain a sense of control/ power over her life, as she had been abused. Later when she converted to Christianity, she said she turned her inner wounds to the Lord and received healing and peace. So yes, we should approach with empathy because we don’t know what hurt lies underneath the rebellion.
This comment is so beautifully said. So many Christians are quick to criticize and berate people who are not on the same level of understanding and who may need more grace from Father.
…I am that EXACT girl. I’ve turned my life over to Christ as of February this year. Jesus is the best thing that ever happened to me. 🥹💕
“Sage. It’s seasoning. We put this in dressing “ 😂😂😂😂 AMEN!!!
Periodt!😂
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It smells horrible I almost threw up when i walked into someone’s house who was burning it
I cook with it regularly. Anyone who eats sausage, including turkey, is consuming sage. It's witchcraft if you are using it for bad intentions.
“God creates and the devil perverts”. I felt that word in my spirit.! Amen. Always enjoy watching you guys, can’t wait for season 5.
Same with Yoga. God recently confronted me with the fact that I had been embracing a lot of hinduism ideology by practicing yoga for several years. I ended up relying more on this "techniques" to center myself than on praying and being in communion with the Holy Spirit. I don't think I did it on purpose though. It happened slowly, repeating myself that "om" doesn't mean anything, that a pranayama is just breathing, that an asana is just stretching and that I don't need to think like them to enjoy the benefits of the practice. I didn't realize it was just as spiritual as attending a tarot reading or doing ayahuasca. Everything is spiritual in this life, but yoga... yoga doesn't even bother on hiding it.
Will you explain further?
So do you think meditation is witchcraft bc isn’t yoga and Hinduism basically meditation? Bc some people consider prayer as a form of meditation just a question. I would like to hear some insight. I also did try yoga one time as well but didn’t go back and was thinking of going back but I haven’t id rather invest my time into god or going to the gym honestly.
@@sumgaiiiyes its Demonic it opens you to demon possession & channeling spirits because the bible says to meditate on my WORD day & night. Emptying your mind and consciousness is a no. Especially with Hinduism yoga & the Kundalini experience it's all Demonic
Yoga’s history are poses that mimic the different Hindu deities. As Christians this is a NO. Pilates works just as well, if not better.
I just had a conversation in my church about this very discussion about new age and witchcraft. The bible tells us that rebellion is as witchcraft. We have to be careful when we put things before God in worship. Because you can be in witchcraft and never cast a spell
“Maintain a sensitive heart” YES!! I know what it’s like to have idolatry distance me from God and I know exactly what you mean by having a hardened heart because of it!!!
I don't laugh easily but that "stain" took me out. Ya'll are too cute together!
“Prayer changes energy!”🙌🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾
It does tho
Absolutely
This may sound weird but Jackie and Preston seem like an exact replica of me & my wife😅 I see so much of my wife in Jackie and myself in Preston and the comment that Preston made about Jackie not being able to take a compliment and feeling like a nuisance is exactly how my wife reacts. I love my wife to death and it bothered me so much that she's not like all the other girls who love to be showered with compliments but after watching this and knowing I'm not alone it gives me hope 🙌🏽 because beyond that my conversations with her about the Word of God, feel like this podcast episode, there's nothing like being married to someone who loves the Lord and is just wise beyond her years.
Thank you for talking about sage! I was using sage because a friend told me about using it to “remove bad energy”. But I’ve always felt weird using it so I asked my grandma she told me to toss it and she said it was a ritual and counseled me.
Thank you so much for your podcast. Being in the infancy of my faith has been a challenge but between this podcast and the basement with pastor Tim Ross, this has given me a lot of clarity and understanding. If anyone has any suggestions on study bibles, books, etc, please let me know!
Same..I had my own convictions from God about crystals..I struggle with severe anxiety,and was suggested from others to use crystals to help ease my anxiety..which I tried to check them out..but God gave me an inkling that "why was I relying on these crystals rather than Him"..so I got rid of them before I later found out that they were New Age and not of God..
THE NIV STUDY BIBLE IS REALLY GOOD . EASY TO READ WITH QUESTIONS AND CONTEXT
The Knowledge of the Holy by A.W. Tozer is a wonderful and short book. Really helped me love God much better and got me so excited to get to know him better.
This pastor has great bible studies through the Old Testament and helps point to how it’s relevant under the new covenant and how we can see Christ in the Old Testament. I highly suggest following his teachings. I just finished listening to one of his sermons on Leviticus 1 after reading through some of the book.
czcams.com/video/V7v5CidYPBI/video.html
I second The Bible Project!
Jackie is just, I’m so thankful for her life.
“Pray for it “ the best advice you can ever give someone! I loved when Jackie said that.
Preston’s little side comments and distractions has me cracking up and jackie being so serious makes it even funnier, i love y’all so much i can’t wait for the next season!!
Ephesians 6:10 ⚔
"Finally, my brethren, be strong in the Lord and in the power of His might"
I LOVE that you shared that story about feeling like you weren’t really a Christian because you weren’t able to turn away from fornication. Thank you for your transparency!!! It continues to help me feel not alone in my struggles to turn away from my fleshly desires.
I felt the same way because multiple people told me I wasn’t a Christian because I had conflicting feelings and opinions about abortion. I felt too much shame after being told this to be proud in my faith and felt unworthy to continue my relationship with God for a season. I now realize that the more I devote time and prayers and reading the Bible, the more God will help me align my views and opinions with the Bible. Hallelujah!
Exactly! Well said🎉 I've been here!
I love you all SO much, thank you for everything that you do for our God to teach us how to better represent, understand, and love Him. You guys are family to me and I am grateful for your obedience to Christ. I love you both so much may the love of our Father, the peace of our Savior, and the comfort of the Holy Spirit encounter you all and all your family’s future generations forever and ever.. Thank you 🙏🏽🤍
When Jackie busts out in tongues it sends me 😂😂😂….I love this podcast.
Same but when Preston did it.
I stopped in my steps 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Same LOL 😂
Frrr😂😂
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Lol
I’m glad I ran across this video! I was talking with a bus driver recently who said after a long day of dealing with passengers, she would burn sage in her place. The Lord put in my mind to tell her to STOP burning sage. I told her it opened channels to allow evil spirits into her house, and that witches burned sage (I guess to cast spells). I saw her again and asked if she stopped; she said she did, but didn’t sound convincing.
You can lead a horse to water…, lol. I just plant seeds.
I binge watched, With The Perry’s, today; Thank You God, for what You are doing through these two 🙏🏽
I was edified and sharpened. Thank you. And may God continue to use you and bless you, and bless us. In Jesus’ name, amen
Everytime Preston compliments Jackie 🥰🥹
I think I'm in that 'testing' period where I'm asking myself and God why I dont trust Him like I say and sing that I do. I'm asking Him to cleanse me from pride and self-centeredness
Amen
How ru doing?
Ask and receive
This season was so on point and truly needed. Thank you both for your service and ministry. It's so dope to see black love and black Christian love on display. Unapologetically.
Couple goals. Someone who used to be hood but now saved. Have to understand life, be wounded but healed by Jesus.
Amen
Would love these guys to be on the basement podcast w/Tim Ross 💯🔥
I AGREEEEE!!!!!!!
Yesssss
yessssss
Yessss!!!! Hope they see your comment👏🏾
Preston already has been, if you haven't seen it
I love the banter, coziness and genuine friendship you guys have. The Black Biblical love is always oozing out of you. I’m more like Preston with my husband. I gas him up everyday and he gets so shy and kooky about it! It’s so cute to me. Married for almost two years and we returned to Christ together 3 months ago and the difference has been life changing! Love you guys and the way you model Christ.
Agreed on therapy. My therapist asked me, “When are you gonna stop playing God and allow God to step in?” I said you know what you right. Help me learn to let go and let God
Prayer is what changes energy 🙌
Who else has listened to the intro like 5x already. I love when Preston compliments JHP and she has this "stop it, I like it" attitude-- theeeeee cutest. Ok, lets talk witchcraft, hahahahahahaha
Been binge watching all day. I just thank God for this ministry, HE IS REAL and he KNOWs exactly what he’s doing in our lives. Hallelujah 🎉🎉
I remember moving to a small town with my family in SC and my mom had us join the local church that was pastored by some old classmates. She wanted the new house blessed so the pastor and his wife came over to the house and started to pray. And as they prayed, they started to burn some sage and walk around the house. This surprised me so much because outside of TV, I had never seen it done. I am more confused now as to why this baptist preacher used it then.
Thank you for this video.
Thank you for the reminder to pray for God to work in my personal creative process. To surrender that gift to his plan in the day to day. Powerful word.
Your conversation on trusting God (believing) compelled me to say that I trust God based on what I know about him or have experienced. When certain situations come about, I absolutely trust God. But in those times where He wants me to know him or experience him on a deeper level, He takes me through something where I struggle to trust Him and It is during those times that I realize I don't trust like I thought. It is in those times that I learn to trust Him on a deeper level. #deeperlevel #deeperbelief #deepertrust
How do I do and live this in a practical way?
@@BethKnox32 sorry for the delayed response. Practically: Concede control over to God. How does that look? Honestly answer the question, do I love God more than anything? Most of us don’t. If we can grow to love Him more than that particular ‘thing’, then we will grow deeper in Him, we will trust Him in that ‘thing’, and we will believe Him for that ‘thing’.
Rebellion is as witchcraft makes super sense now
Chrystal Evans Hurst says if you want me to mentor you come help me clean the house, fold the clothes. Mentoring means share my life and learn from me.
Awwww @0:53- it's so nice to see Preston SO into you, Jackie! "Stain" was probably not the best aesthetic to go for BUT he did his best! 🤣🙌🏾
Disciple is best in community. I totally agree with that.
Y'all make me understand how "viewers" can become entitled 😭😭😭 I'm always checking your channel for new content and catch myself getting upset when I find nothing 😂😅 Forgive me. I do need to say though that your efforts are very much appreciated. You don't HAVE TO do this, but you do because you want to serve us with the knowledge and wisdom that God has endowed you with. Thank you for taking the time out of your lives (as a couple and as parents and I'm sure you wear many other capes) to enrich God's Kingdom. It is my personal prayer that He continue to bless you abundantly! That He continue to grant the desires of your hearts. That He continue to bless you as individuals as well as the unit and union of your marriage. That He continue to bless your entire family, in the Mighty name of Jesus Christ I pray, AMEN!
They compliment each other so well.
I love that last part about how you know you're growing in faith with the Lord when you don't depend on your feelings anymore to know that God is close to you. It's such a good reminder. As someone who has trouble regulating and controlling my emotions, I have to learn this the hard way, but as soon as I understood it, it really changed the way I walk with the Lord. I don't feel good most of the time, I'm easily given into anxiety, but will that stop me from trusting that God can and will grant me peace? Not really, because I know His character and His promises, and I'll depend on that than my own. Appreciate what y'all do!
The way you described belief blew me away. This is so true and rampant amongst so many who call themselves a believer. It even challenged me and how I'm living, and seeing God. Thank you.... rewind!
"You can read the bible all you want but if you're not tapping into the supernatural you can't even discern it right" Yikes...wow!! Many churches and believers are in trouble. Help us Lord!
"We need help from God to love God, to obey God" Yes, truth!!! Phew!!!
This truly blessed me! Thank you!
Why did ya'll come in my house...sit on my couch & read me for Holy healing in the first 11 minutes of this podcast?!! I thank you both for your obedience, wisdom & discipleship! May God continue to bless, elevate, & keep your beautiful family!
loved this conversation !
I’ve been waiting on you guys like forever 😭🙌
Love love love this! Please do more of these
This is such a much needed conversation
I think new age spirituality and “witchcraft” is a complex issue. For many people, religion has been an instituted dogma that has oppressed and made people feel worthless, and God was never truly experienced within the context of religion or culture. So new age spirituality comes in where religion failed, and offers teachings in universal principles and spiritual realities. New age offered a language that resonated with those who felt excluded by religion and mainstream culture, it offered understanding of the spirit realm and promised freedom from oppression. The church has had a dark history of conquering and colonizing and there was a the backlash in wanting to discover what has been hidden, kept from us, as if we’ve been denied the truth about our reality. It’s normal for a Christian to just see that as false light teachings but there is the other side of the story for those whose paradigm hasn’t been wired by Christianity.
This is godly wisdom. Thank you, Preston and Jackie.
Thank you for this conversation😌
You-all make me love the Lord more. He blesses me with his word so often, and I'm thankful for the children he uses.
"I'm not saying you're a witch but you probably learned it from a witch." 🤣🤣🤣
I really enjoyed this season ❣️❣️❣️❣️ thank you guys for your wisdom
This thang was so good and rich! Bless y'all.
The last 6 or so minutes really stood out to me- thank you.
This was so good especially about creativity I needed to hear that.
season 4 has blessed me, so grateful for you guys and your yes to the Lord❤️🙌🏼
Enjoyed seeing you both in Chicago! May God continue to bless you both.
This was tooo good!!! My goodness I love this video. The church needs to hear this!
I haven’t even watched it yet, but just by the title I’m so excited! This is what we need to talk about!!!!
This whole podcast was full of beautiful words! thank you for sharing these truths!
I enjoy listening and learning from these important discussions.
I loved this season!! The guests and Word was phenomenal! Can't wait to see you in October, Jackie!!
1 Corinthians 2:5 🕊
"that your faith should not be in the wisdom of men but in the power of God."
I definitely needed to hear this. God really allows you to hear or see things with necessary timing.
The two of you are the best ‼️
Amazing 🙏It’s by faith. Thank you guys🌷
Can we talk about parenting and disciplining? From teach our kids right and wrong to types of punishment to embrace them and uplifting them. Kids thinking they can trick us lol. The whole parneting game
Yes please please.
Yesssssss! There is alot out there about accessing your state of mind when and how you react when disciplining your kids that I think would be an interesting tidbit..
But yes parenting in general!!
Myself.. I would like some advice on dealing with a child's homosexuality when you know (&they know) you don't agree with it! I don't wanna focus on just that, but i also dont wanna ignore it. Everything from what she wears, hanging out with friends that all encourage or are in that lifestyle.. Y'all pray for me and mine! These kids will keep you on your knees for sure!
Thank you God for The Perrys, In the name of Jesus Amen ❤
It's been around for centuries & the devil tries to pervert it & makes us think it's new! ON POINT👈🏽
Great episode, great questions, great content, honest answers & TRUTH!!!
I grow so much being a listener. God Bless you both, such wisdom. What a gift, all glory to God!
Great show! Y’all are awesome young Christians!
Why did I have to replay the first 2 minutes over and over. Hilarious. Jackie was trying to be serious and he was flirting. Love marriage.
So so good God bless you guys
I shared this with a few family members. Their transparency is beautiful.
Power couple. I love watching them together. 🕊❤🙏🏾
I really love what you both are doing for God and just how God really use you both to connect real life to the gospel which is a blessing thank you !!
I love you guys and ur real interaction with each other. Living and portraying what you believe.
The ability you both have to edify others through intimate conversations is such a blessing! I am SO BLESSED by these! I have been binging every video at work. Honestly no one else who does ministry online comes close to getting as deep and articulate as you both! Whew 🙏🏼
GOOD stuff. Real. Raw and RELEASING.... THANK you Preston and Jackie for your HONESTY 🥴😍🙌🏾👏🏾
I clicked on this video bc I’ve been watching ur channel for awhile and since the start of this year there has been children getting trances and manifestations at not just my school but in schools all over my province. It was so bad in one school that they had to close it down and call in the police. Family is so important and parents are using these children to bring things that aren’t of God into schools, which is causing fear and tension for all the students. I’m not scared tho, because I know who my God is and I know what He can do, i fight these battles by getting on my knees and praying to the one true King
Hi what ch I love ❤️ them I would love ❤️ some tape thanks bless you📣📣🩸🔥📚🏃🏾♀️🌧
Preston in the beginning 😂😂 there were so many gems in here. Thank y’all! Thank God
God bless you both, this podcast was such a blessing, I needed to hear this, thank you! Will definitely share! 🙏🏾😊❤
I love this show, especially today’s.
Give thanks!! You are absolutely brilliant sister. Much gratitude and blessings 🙌 🙏
Why this just spoke to my entire soul???!!!!!
I’m excited for this one.
I love the music by Swoope! Can’t wait for season 5
Complete fire and truth all wrapped up in this. Cannot express how incredible it is to have my experiences and thoughts put to words. Thank you for articulating this all and letting God use your creativity - it has now drawn mine out more boldly. God, thank you for blessing these two - I ask for abundantly more for them in Jesus name. So thankful.
No! Not the last video of the season. Thursdays won't be the same. Your videos are amazing, love love the truth, the guests, the humor and the love.
Thank you for that but on people pleasing! I needed this.
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Great conversation/discussion 👍🏾👍🏾
This is such a great talk. I have been away too long from this channel. Feelings are fickle. They change with our mood. We need to stay vigilant about everything so that we can be close to God.