What is this Ridiculous Rocker?
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- čas přidán 25. 04. 2020
- Today I'm checkin out an idea I had for rockering--what happens when i take my normal rocker, and add a hockey-style HiLo to it?
LET'S FIND OUT
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7:07 I think it looks rad with non matching wheels. I have some of those frames and love them.
I skate a similar setup ***without*** a rockered frame.
Back to front: 78 - 80 - 79 - 76
Keeping the wheels in this order, I regularly flip them so all sides wear out evenly.
When the front wheels are down to 73, I take them out and replace them with new 80s, rotating all wheels so I end up with the starting setup above again.
So in effect, I just keep refreshing the set with new 80s once in a while.
(I thrash the used 73- wheels on an old pair of skates for practicing sliding breaks etc., until they are down to 68, at which point I toss them.)
Where do you find wheel sizes like 79? Doesn't seem to be easily available... 🤔
@@shadician You ride an 80 for a while until it becomes a 79.
@@torpedo3493 seems obvious now you say it 🙃 👌
If I get to the point where I need a rockered setup I'll probably try something similar. Appreciate the knowledge 🙏🏽
When you want a hockey rocker but not enough budget
That's the rocker I started with a few months ago, and it was a lot more familiar moving from ice.
And fun :)
I’ve been running a 80-80-76-68 on a flat frame for about a year ❤️❤️❤️ (but now am experimenting with a regular hi Lo 80-80-76-72 because I’m mostly commuting on skates lately and want an extra bit of stability)
How did you like the 80-80-76-68 flat frame? I'll be trying the same setup soon and wondering if I should stick with it if there's a learning curve.
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As you know, I’m a fan of your normal rocker. Can’t say anything about the new setup you tried out here. I can’t imagine liking it very much, but it’s hard to say. The tricky part for me when trying this stuff is that I can never quite get it the exact same as you, since my Katana frame rockers up and down with the center two wheels instead of the front and back wheels like Flying Eagle and Seba. I have some the do on my Seba Highs, but the Seba rockerable frames are nowhere near the quality of the Katana.
Also, I haven’t skated anything like those wheels (you talked about at the end) on inlines, but in quads I made a video once about wheels produced in Australia by Scott Corey. They’re the same. I got my hands on a set of 98a wheels that were the stickiest wheels I’ve ever skated, while also being able to maintain their round shape because of the hardness. Due to that, they rolled really fast while being super sticky, and would break loose for a slide with ease, but only when I wanted them to. Would you say the experience with these wheels is similar?
Deez Skates when they slide it’s very... stuttery. Def not made for slides, but yes grip for days and VERY fast
Heeehee, liked your crazy experiment!
Thanks!
Two things:
Muscle memory will come back fairly quickly. No worries.
Second, could you have an 80mm wheel ground to 76mm in the front? I guess it depends on where that second layer is, but since you like experimenting it's something you could try.
Crim considering it, but I don’t know how far down that inner ring is... the core on them is pretty big as well
@@CityBlades Worse case, you throw away a wheel or figure out it dies early, right? Maybe attempt to grind an old wheel instead of a new one. Never known what you'll find!
Crim it’s like a $15 wheel though 😂 I’ll see if Law can hook me up with some samples of the sizes I need soon
Tnanks
Put the wheels you want in to a lathe and machine them down to suit your diameter and profile
This man is selling wheels. Sell to me sales man!
re: brackets - I didn't realize they had a distinct name. What I've done without knowing any better to get them through is to trace a question mark (bottom-up), maybe 8" or so tall, so I don't leave the contact foot behind.
Disclaimer: I am nowhere near these guys' league. My technique may be wrong, theory-wise, and get in the way of more advanced moves later.
Stephen Klump I’m having a hard time picturing what you mean but cool 🙂
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If I just rotate on the contact foot, by the time my body gets around the foot is too far behind and I'm going to have to put the other foot down.
So I get the contact foot out in front just as I'm about to rotate on it, so when my body is facing backward the foot is under my hips. If the wheel were to mark the ground it would look like a ? (without the dot) on the left foot, mirror image on the right.
Stephen Klump gotcha. May be an issue with staying springy in the knees. Keep at it 🙂
This is basically a Hi-Lo full rocker. You can achieve something similar by using 76-80-76-72 in flat frame.
Kamil Ciura 76-80-76-72 actually gives you 3 wheels flat and a 4mm rocker in the back
@@CityBlades I believe that you'd need 2mm difference between diameters to have that kind of tilted flat. Back wheel rockered and the front flat would be 76-80-78-76.
I'm really tempted to have a go at a rockered setup. i have a 255mm 84mm frame which i could stick some 84s in the middle two positions and two 80s on the outsides? Would that be a good enough setup to start with?
Also yes MPC wheels are amazing!! I have some 110mm blue magics (very pretty) and they are the best I've used so far, they give you so much confidence on your edges (for my fledgling double push).
Edward Taylor yes 84/80 is a solid setup. Lemme know how it goes 🙂
@@CityBlades That's good news as i have the wheel sizes already! Cheers will do
Hi, if we forget that we have only 4 points of contact with the ground, where exactly would be the best pivot points? Maybe somewhere little bit in front of the ball of the foot and somewhere under the heel? 3x90 frames will have first and last wheel more or less in these points. Off ice figure skates SnowWhite use frames with 3 wheels too, but the middle wheel is more in front.
Couple things, pivot points is really the turning point and your wheel base tilt has just as much to do with the turn as the wheel base rocker and inevitably the "turning wheel". There is a sink in the knee before a turn and then a raise during the turn; more edge pressure/tilt, then less respectively. This allows for the snap at the turning point/peak and lessons the wheel contact with the ground. With good knee action and edges, which wheel becomes less of an emphasis as the timing of the knee action. But simply forward to backwards, ball of the foot pressure. Backward to forward, heel pressure. Put it all together and you have what we call soft knee turns. 3 or 4 wheels, the main difference is the ease of the turn. 3 wheel may hop slightly. But the edge and knee action is all the same. Cheers
How it going I just bought these skates Last night, what frames are those. My are coming I believed with the ones that come with them which are the GT 273 90mm, like your vids bro, keep it up thanks Danny.
Daniel Hudson FE drift frames 🙂
Have you tried the MPC x firm dual hardness wheels? I would love a review of these extremely expensive wheels.
I was using them in this video, they’re great 🙂
Which hardness do you prefer for the mpc black magics?
Chris V. Have only tried the xfirm and the xxfirm, and I liked them both. These were the xfirm
I want to try those MPC wheels but I couldn't find them anywhere in 80mm, can you link where you got em? Thanks dude.
Артём Айрапетов it was on eBay. MPC Black Magic
speedskatingwheels.com/products/mpc-freestyle?variant=31112030355515
Designed by S. Laffargue. It's the wheel that is provided with the FR Skates SL Carbon. Personnally I haven't tried them out but I was told by two users that it was one of the greatest 80 mm wheel ever.
Here in Europe, the Black Magic in its 80 mm version isn't easy to find Instead, it must be imported straight from the US, that is the easiest solution but not the cheapest one due to shipping costs and maybe duties.
Maybe a silly question, but is it possible to mix wheel hardness types? Got a few different sizes I'd like to try together...but they're also different hardness levels.
yeah, i mean it may feel weird or wear unevenly but it's fine
Nice to see your content again. You disappeared from my feed for months now.
InlineSkaterDad-42069 thanks 🙂 I’ll do my best to keep it comin
Every skater is obsesed whith the "looks"? Latetly i notice that seems like the US rollers, skaters... have this strange obsesion....