How Does The New Toyota Tundra Tow This HUGE Black Series HQ19 Camper Trailer OFF-ROAD?
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- čas přidán 25. 02. 2022
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*Correction: The Black Series HQ19 shown here starts at just over $94,000, not $84,000. We apologize for the mistake.*
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Hey TFL it’s Justin! I thought meeting Andre on Onion Creek was awesome but seeing that encounter on a TFL video from Moab makes it even sweeter! Everyone at TFL is a class act! Keep up the great work!
Hello Justin. Great to meet you! -Andre.
Good man, Justin.
Justin the CZcams star 😆👍
That looks like a blast with the Jeeps.
12:16 - That was really cool of them. They easily could have just driven by or driven over that gopro, but they didn't. They picked it up, left it running, and returned it without any hesitation once they found someone on the trail who appeared to be using cameras. Those are good people, and deserve a shout-out for their good morals and effort.
I also liked that Andrey was recognized on the trail by the sub in the Jeep caravan, and that we got to see him comment on this very video. Both interactions make offroaders in Moab look really good, in my eyes.
People in this part of the US are super friendly. UT, WY and CO are great.
At 9:00 Andre talking about luxury but the tv is crooked and looks like it is about to fall off lol 🤪
the mere fact that they caught you and returned the gopro means there is hope for society yet lol!
When Andre says “also” at 9:44, that just about made my week. Haha
Literally replayed it like 20 times just laughing 😂😂
That independent suspension looks great!
It's pretty common for most Aussie vans to have independent suspension now days, cruisemaster even offer airbag independent suspension for a softer ride and levelling out the van with upto 10k lbs load ratings
The bonus footage was a nice touch. Great job TFL crew!
It was also interesting to see that the Jeepers were from all different states. They must have coordinated and planned for this trip together. Nice to see.
We have had our HQ19 for most of a year. We have taken it offroad a bit and was very surprised with how well it survived. We did bottom out and broke our sewage dumping port, but we were able to continue the adventure. We love this trailer for how rugged it is. We pull it with a 2020 Tundra. The trailer is more rugged then our truck. Thanks for doing the video!
Thx for sharing your real life experience / review!!!❤
great review, I'm buying a new Tundra this year and plan on pairing with a camper. This camper is nice and from what I have seen the new Tundra's have a lot of tech to help with towing, as do other trucks. I'm getting a Tundra to replace my 20y/o Tundra with almost 300K miles and never any major repairs
That was a great video, the truck and camper did great. And I love the bonus out takes at the end.
Thank you for showing your adventure
The fill up mileage thing you always do is so realistic. Real highway off road milage.
That was pretty impressive Andre! The more I watch your videos the better I like your style.
Sweet trailer for 85k it should drive it self to camping spot and wait for me
I'm looking at a scale model of this black series trailer, designed to be towed by a micro RC offroader of 1/32nd scale. Very rare to see a trailer in the RC hobby. The whole idea is small scale ofroading with a trailer and I love it, cool angle to the hobby.
That’s super cool
Killer video man!! Just what I’m after. Thanx Andrea
Great Video!! just what I’m after. Thanx you Andrea
Owned this same trailer for 2 years. Pulled it with a 2011 GMC 1500 with 6.2 gasser. Averaged 7-9 mpg depending on terrain. The trailer was definitely pushing the limits of the half ton when fully loaded. I upgraded to a 2018 gmc 2500 duramax.. I would definitely recommend a 3/4 ton. I averaged 11-14 mpg depending on terrain. A gas 3/4 is probably the perfect median. However the exhaust break is always a much appreciated luxury.
Thank you for the feedback.
Why did the exhaust break?
@@mikefoehr235 He meant having the exhaust brake capabilities from a diesel truck.
He's being a tool. He knows.
@@mikefoehr235 Muffler bearings seized up.
For a guy that knows as much about trucks as Andre, anticipating 10mpg while towing up elevation and into a headwind is beyond unrealistic. That 8.6mpg was amazing. In what world would 10mpg be possible with those factors!? Lol
great review. thanks. just subscribed. i am considering a similar setup this year, but after seeing the 8.6 mpg I may have to think long and hard about a diesel instead.
Great video and test!
That fellow that found the go pro was so nice. And saved some money and footage.
*Finance Promotions are starting to appear for the new Tundra in some regions!* It's going to be interesting what the next 8 months shows. Many are still waiting for the crash test rating on this version before buying*.
Love it! Ive got the exact same Tundra coning in but in Lunar Rock!
Great video TY!!! ❤ and more like this with off road trailers pls!!! 😊😊😊
This was super cool! Love the suspense. Thanks Andre! Still think you need a cowboy hat for some of these “western-themed” videos lol.
If you've never tried the roadmaster active suspension, they're cheap and easy to install and work awesomely for reducing sag and sway under load and have little affect on ride when empty. I e had some for 4 years and never had to readjust, I just check from time to time. I was in boulder for the first couple years I had them and went up numerous off.road crawls and had a contractor setup on back that I was often at or near max payload.
Very nice and no problems with the truck or trailer!
They beat the heck out of these trailers on the older episodes of 4wd action, now 4wd 24/7.
What a fun and informative video. All I need is $160K for the setup…… OK, maybe a few hundred bucks less if I find the camera laying around the desert . Cant wait to see you do some towing tests with the new Sequoia up and down the Ike.
Good video. Nice trailer. Great floor plan. The Tundra seemed to handle it fine. Still if I owned that trailer I would probably opt for a 3/4 ton with a good off road package. An f250 with a tremor package would be a good match for that trailer.
This video was relaxing..
Love Moab
Another great video thank you
Now that is how you test a vehicle and trailer. Just wish that trailer wasn't so expensive... but I loved the show. Well done. Better than the other channel that tested it... won't mention who it was...
Hope they get it right and work out the bugs so in 2 years I can comfortably get the new Tundra if all goes well. Recently I got a low mileage 2016 DC 5.7V8 to accompany my 2010 4.6 V8 regular cab( i use both for work)..would be cool to add the new one as well in a few years 😁
I’m waiting and seeing too.
Great video !!
Never fear. Matt's Off Road Recovery is only a call away. Cool rig. Lots of adventures await for this pair.
matts off road attorney better stay away with as much legal trouble as that POS is in
Pretty impressive I must say!
Fun video! I would've liked to hear your thoughts on the Tundra's compression braking going down long grades. My F 150 ecoboost with similar engine, 3.5 liter twin turbo, has marginal compression braking with only the V6. "Shoulda bought a V8"!
5.0 pulling 6400 trailer 12 to 14 mpg f150 xlt 4x4 10sp.
Thank you Andre for the great reviews on the tundra! I continue to be skeptical about the new gen, for now I’m happy with my 2016 TRD off-road 4x4. I cannot pay that insane $62k for the limited hybrid that I want.
Andre, You should get the CAT scale app. Pull on, push a few buttons, pull off. Easy peasy! I use it almost every day.
Just for future reference, if you get stuck in that Moab area, you call Rory at TrailMater for rescue. Further south near Hurricane, UT, you call Matt's Off Road Recovery.
Awesome video. I’m not brave enough to tow something that big on a trail.
If you ever get stuck in Utah, you can always call Matt's off-road recovery.... Lol
I think they should have added a Honda generator as part of this review. I also think an off grid camping trip with Andre’s Powerboost F150 would be cool showing reliability of the onboard generator over multiple days of powering this camper. Also, can the F150 generator provide power to the camper while going down the road with the purpose of providing power to the refrigerator?
That was excellent !!! Would have loved to see you join in with the Jeep guys. Love that trailer too.
Is a WDH available? Did the trailer move around much in cross winds?
I got an old 96 Colman pop up but I just carry the tent or hammocks when off-road is involved lol sweet camper though
Hey Andre is that a normal seating position, I mean seated that close to the steering wheel, isn’t that too close? Great video, as usual from TFL, keep up great work.
Are you guys going to test the ridgeline at the ranch like you did with the Maverick and the Santa Cruz
Really nice trailer, especially for taking off road.
dang thats a sweeeet set up
I was at onion creek on 2/20 in my built 2020 Power Wagon. While the terrain is easy it sure is narrow. Did you get to the small single lane bridge rated at 9,000 lbs maximum? I wondered how much it would hold, maybe Andre tested that maximum.
Super nice off-road camper! Just would not want to get stuck and need to get pulled out from the front while pulling the the trailer. With no tow hooks on the front what would you attach to? I have been super interested in this truck and was excited about it coming out but I will hang on to my current truck until they re-design and add front tow hooks. Why not go really different from the other manufacturers and add a 2” receiver on the front?
You did it 😄😁👍
I have the same trailer but F350 6.7 diesel. I average 12.5 mpg when going across the country.
I would like to see a follow up on what you think of the trailer now. I have watched numerous videos from several different users about those trailers and what junk they, specifically the suspension.
Hey Andre There has been some debate about especially towing heavy if one of these trucks especially being turbocharged would get better fuel mileage running on premium fuel. You guys should do a video and test that theory.
A Black Series HQ17 would be a perfect match for my TRD supercharged 2015 Tundra Platinum 4x4.
I'm still waiting for the day when Matt's Offroad Recovery has to rescue one of the TFL guys
Do we class states of matter through chemical mixtures, molecular structure, or atomic bonds?
I thought you were going to say "what happens on the onion creek trail stays on the onion creek trail." lol
That hitch looks like it puts the tongue weight way back there. Almost the opposite of a weight distribution hitch.
I literally put the cart before the horse and now looking for a truck to tow my HQ19. I’m tempted to get a Power Wagon, but not sure that’s the best tow vehicle. Any advice is welcome, but please be respectful as my wife will be looking at the comments.
How is the climb in Cajon pass and Baker. Easy??
87 octane in a twin turbo while towing? Probably could’ve done a little better MPG & performance with higher octane. 🤷♂️
You’re probably right. It could’ve been to insinuate what your average consumer would do. That 87 looked to be $6 something a gallon at the first stop😅
What happened to the rear truck bumper at 17:22? It looks like something pulled apart or the hitch went wonky…
It's a piece that Roman had previously broken and is on order for a new one. They talk about it in the podcast.
Hmmmmmmm I'm sure they are capable of doing more but I have taken my 27 foot RV trailer through much worse here in Arizona and mine was a fraction of the cost. I have zero damage on mine and have had it since 2015 and I can sleep 8 and have a slideout.
And most likely better build than the one from the red country
@@jackturtle131 ?
Did it weigh less?
Two questions is it a 5 th wheel if so do you have a special hitch second what is red country
@@josephpeluchette191 a fifth wheel hooks up to a hitch in the bed not the bumper
I'm wondering how much weight was in the trailer? Full water tank? Food, dishes, clothing all the stuff you like to have camping. If you were already at max load. Is it capable of towing it really?
I think nothing but sleeping bags ,,,drained the tank in CA . Maybe a little food but looked empty when showing interior in other videos .
What about the transmission temperature on the tundra?
I was waiting for the TowMater crossover episode.
Maybe could you compare all the wannabe off-road SUVs (small size “suv”/crossovers) like the Ford BroncoSport, the Chevrolet Trailblazer, Subaru Crosstrek, Jeep Renegade, etc? Thanks for all your wonderful content btw!
Toyota offers optional air bags for the 22 Tundra for the squat. Waiting for the Hybrid with even more HP and Torque.
And a lower tow rating
Might be lucky to get that in 2023....supposed to be released 01/22....04 still not happening. I went ahead and got the 2022 Blueprint SR5 with TRD package
A lot of pumps there stop at 100.00 per transaction to limit theft. Probally didn't top it up all the way.
I would like to see you the Ember 191MDB travel trailer over the same course to compare off road performance against the Black Series HQ19.
Actually, that would be a good idea. Sort of an overland Ike Gauntlet.
Nice off roading
IDK if I'd slow down on highway below 70, but 8 mpg with a 7K load is a good argument for diesel, or for changing something. Too thirsty for me.
What mileage do you get on that Tundra while towing that trailer?
If i want to tow a 8000lb trailer with my family of four (800lbs) plus gear will payload be an issue? I assume this is a common configuration for a family.
The big wheels manufacturers put on trucks really look stupid. Trucks should have a maximum of 17’s maybe 18’s. All the trucks with 20’s look so dumb with no side wall. Plus they ride like 💩.
4:28 I hope the truck doesn’t contact its bump stops on highway expansion joints. To me if it’s within spec and driving on typical roadways it shouldn’t be doing that. Maybe the air suspension is the way to go for these.
Definitely needs helper bags for those coils.
Needs that motorcycle out of the bed
From personal experience, most truck makers put less than adequate springs in pick up trucks. Inhale a Tacoma and one leaf cracked so I spent a grand and replaced both leaf springs. It was worth the money. The spring shop told me.they see all makes there for this reason. Once I had new springs, the improvement was incredible.
Did anyone notice after he made it past the last crossing they showed the rear bumper view and the bumper trim was falling off 😂
Jeepers are real good people.
I like everything about this trailer except point of origin. I’d be buying a setup like this ( except with a Nissan XD 5.0L Cummins) we’re it not for that. The half ton is sketchy for my long term use, IMO certainly. YMMV
Great video Andre & Alex … that Black Series HQ19 is WICKED !!!
A+++
It's washer dryer combo
Looked like fun. But I would definitely want a little bigger of a truck to pull it. Especially with it loaded.
Us aussies use ford rangers or equivalent sized utes, toyota LandCruisers (lexus 570) or nissan patrol (armada) also.
But as an Aussie you won't see me or alot of other aussies in one of those caravans as they pretty average for what you pay for
@@Aussie_Damo extremely overpriced something like this in Australia would be roughly in the mid 50s
@@robertryan7204 these black series in Aus are $80k+ as they are marketed as fully offroad
@@Aussie_Damo which is crazy as a reasonable Off Roader like that like JB Caravans is about $ 55,000
@@robertryan7204 not sure if you are from aus or not but in aus a 2014 17ft JB gator is 63000 second hand and a brand new 2022 18ft jb gator family van is 92 thousand and they are similiar specs to this.
Ha! Anyone see the tv hanging side ways after it was on dirt road
Black wheels are ok but you need to black out the window surround and front and rear chrome pieces
I have no idea about anything camping so I have to ask:
Is there a way to rent one of those campers? It looks awesome, but I wouldn't buy one for one or two times a year.
In Canada we have RV EZY and USA has OUTDOORSY I think. You will find RVs of all kinds for rent.
One of the best yet.
It would be nice to see the Rivian and then any upcoming ev trucks pull this size camper
Yeah good luck charging it out in that back country ! lol 😂
@@roadglide1142 I'm thinking more of just the size and weight of this camper. Not necessarily the off-road style.
Although towing this at low speeds will make much less impact on range than on the freeway.
How many people buying $90k campers are actually trucking into the back country with it?
@@sternumboy1 In Australia yes. North America probably not
So did the Tundra blow its Turbo system?.
Do you think the Tundra can handle/tow a 9800/10,000 lbs total weight boat?
Im looking at this truck to tow that weight 2 to 4 times a year max...80 to 110 miles one way.
Should tow that boat fine but don’t go up that trail 😂
16:47….bumper molding?
Noticed that as well, looks like it snapped back into place ok.
California is not a manufacturing facility. That’s where they both on the parts that come on assembled.
Black series are manufactured in China.
They certainly are with some Australian input to make them look like Australian Off Roaders
My 2019 Tundra gets 11mpg towing our Winnebago trailer. It’s just about 6,000 lbs. I’m surprised that the 22 tundra doesn’t get better mpg.
Headwinds will do that to you. Down to 7 one time towing across New Mexico.
I put 250k miles on my last gen tundra. Towed a tool wagon many thousands of miles. Consistently got 7-9mpg when pulling a 4,000lb enclosed 7x14 trailer. Very surprising to see you got 11. I’m assuming it’s stock and has factory size tires? I had a small 3” lift with 35’s and it barely got 11mpg without a load. With that said, still my favorite truck I’ve ever owned.
Because twin turbo V6’s are a abismal false advertising Joke!
@@roadglide1142 that’s what everyone says until they drive it.
I thought turbos required premium fuel? 🤔
Not all the time. Seems to be fairly common though.
I do believe the owners manual states 87 fuel.
Depends on compression ratio and boost
Riding in that trailer reminds me of our California earthquake's!
As long as the sub-soils are stable…you’ll have no problem
I would use 91 octane for the 3.5 twin turbo engine