John Lydon's anger at Sid Vicious's Mum

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  • John Lydon's anger at Sid Vicious's Mum
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  • @carvercapitalequitypartner122
    @carvercapitalequitypartner122 Před 4 lety +2156

    Usually parents teach their kids how to live. Sid's mum taught him how to die.

    • @MarkFrancis-xt7ni
      @MarkFrancis-xt7ni Před 4 lety +19

      Indeed.

    • @MarkFrancis-xt7ni
      @MarkFrancis-xt7ni Před 4 lety +5

      Perhaps.injecting a patient with ribena instead of blood was not the best solution...

    • @renditioners
      @renditioners Před 4 lety +5

      Very apt, poor did,

    • @bluemakem459
      @bluemakem459 Před 4 lety +8

      Oh fuck off, as much as we all love Johnny, its a tragedy, plain and simple fucking tragedy. As much as John loved sid hes offloading that little bit of self guilt which for the want of a better word, phrase is innocent guilt. It eats you away and only the strong survive. I know iv lived it.......

    • @s.a.l.1974
      @s.a.l.1974 Před 3 lety +5

      Lol, in the video of my way he shoots her in the heart

  • @kenirving5240
    @kenirving5240 Před 3 lety +528

    Don’t feel any guilt John, you were just a kid yourself.

    • @loriwishman1866
      @loriwishman1866 Před 3 lety +36

      Agree. At that young age you don't feel you can go off. When you're older and wiser, she wouldn't have a chance. Have no regrets. He had a good friend in you.

    • @citizen-7xl543
      @citizen-7xl543 Před 3 lety +29

      There’s always the thoughts that you could’ve done something different

    • @joski9030
      @joski9030 Před 3 měsíci

      He was at it as well he’s a boring old cunt

    • @steampunkster2023
      @steampunkster2023 Před 2 měsíci +2

      Yup, he's just want to explode at that time trying to react to the stupidity around him...but it's hard.

  • @SandraWade666
    @SandraWade666 Před 3 lety +41

    I saw an article about how John is taking care of his wife, who is suffering from dementia. Gave me a new appreciation of him.

    • @martintowse6812
      @martintowse6812 Před 3 lety +1

      Check out the performance included in this vid for the party they gave for deprived kids back in their heyday. Says a lot of good things about that band.czcams.com/video/mXpSrT7jVb0/video.html

    • @Pea_Green
      @Pea_Green Před 9 měsíci +3

      . . .and has sadly now lost her. 💔

  • @slater5798
    @slater5798 Před 4 lety +361

    He seems really traumatized by Sid's death even to this day. Lydon seems like an erratic personality but he's really intelligent and compassionate.

    • @alfredo4485
      @alfredo4485 Před rokem

      Em1996 Jonny chama Sid de idiota. Que grande amigo!

    • @JesseStevenTrumm3992
      @JesseStevenTrumm3992 Před rokem +8

      Pretty sure most people at some point have called their friends idiots, come on now mang

    • @tompowers4013
      @tompowers4013 Před rokem +1

      @@alfredo4485 Fue cuando todavía lucía su personaje de Rotten, ¡¿y nunca has llamado idiotas a tus compañeros?! Sé realista y no escribas mierda.

    • @ThePandaAgenda
      @ThePandaAgenda Před 4 měsíci

      also years of drug abuse kinda make you jumpy

  • @bluesugar58
    @bluesugar58 Před 8 lety +2469

    Sid never stood a chance with a mother like that. Shame, kids need a sober parent not someone who just wants to be a friend. Anne didn't have his best interest at heart.

    • @BayviewFinch
      @BayviewFinch Před 8 lety +13

      +bluesugar58 Let's get drunk and talk about this in detail.

    • @akashg746
      @akashg746 Před 7 lety +49

      His mum gave him the heroin to kill himself after all she did she let her son kill himself . ~I think she cooked it up and injected it to ( I saw that on a documentary ) Sid Vicious was Innocent

    • @Zaes223
      @Zaes223 Před 7 lety +99

      Between his mother and Nancy(diagnosed a schizophrenic and tried to commit suicide twice also was a junkie from an early age and a prostitute) Sid never had a fucking chance. The poor guy is a perfect example of how well meaning guys with the wrong women around them can be sabotaged.

    • @akashg746
      @akashg746 Před 7 lety +37

      I know we should not celebrate Nihilism But Sid (John Richie) was a tur de force. He did not have musical talent but will forever be a icon of the punk movement. Also people should never forget Darby Crash (Jan Paul Beahm) from the legendary proto-hardcore movement. Injecting heroin is never a good idea.

    • @Reprodestruxion
      @Reprodestruxion Před 7 lety +12

      Akash Goodoree his version of my way was great

  • @itsthefluorescents4777
    @itsthefluorescents4777 Před 7 lety +3061

    of course he holds anger at sid's mother. She basically killed him.

    • @bluemakem459
      @bluemakem459 Před 4 lety +31

      AND NANCY HAD FUCK ALL TO DO WITH IT......GET REAL..........

    • @neiljones9787
      @neiljones9787 Před 4 lety +71

      @ThatOneAsianBroChick build the boy and you wont have to mend the man

    • @bluemakem459
      @bluemakem459 Před 4 lety +7

      @ThatOneAsianBroChick
      How old are you......firstly HOW OLD ARE YOU.....??????????????

    • @bluemakem459
      @bluemakem459 Před 4 lety +2

      @ThatOneAsianBroChick
      Did he play for Dortmund or Paris saint germaine

    • @rickallen6378
      @rickallen6378 Před 4 lety +16

      No she didn't. There are many examples of people that had drug addicted mothers that turned out just fine.

  • @stefstrahle
    @stefstrahle Před 4 lety +175

    Sid needed unconditional love. Every child deserves this

    • @Babyblue689
      @Babyblue689 Před 5 měsíci +5

      He had no father or stability in his life, this affects children badly.

  • @ilikemusic
    @ilikemusic Před 5 lety +158

    This brought a tear to my eye when he said Sid would always be his mate and the way he refers to him as poor sid

    • @user-wt1pe7gk7j
      @user-wt1pe7gk7j Před 2 lety +2

      Very, very sad. Poor Sid...

    • @unhooked25
      @unhooked25 Před 2 lety +5

      Sid vicious's real name was John Ritchie

    • @user-wt1pe7gk7j
      @user-wt1pe7gk7j Před 2 lety +3

      @@unhooked25 Yes, you are right. His name was John Simon Ritchie.

  • @jimmyfabs78
    @jimmyfabs78 Před 7 lety +496

    John mentions Sid's mom giving him heroin on his 16th or 17th birthday. In a documentary apparently Sid's mom was giving him drugs at an even much younger age. He didn't have a chance, when you're a kid you look up to your parents or parent. Drugs was his bond with his mother and in his mind that's probably how he saw love from his mother, by her giving him drugs. What a fucked situation.

    • @danielaschwarz1971
      @danielaschwarz1971 Před 7 lety +26

      I was so upset when I heard this the first time,that Sid´s mom is a JUNKIE. My lovely mom was crying when I was of heroin and I am now in January 2017 10 years now but my mom died with 46 nearly 47,she wrote on her testament(and that with 45)that she was scared that I die earlier than her....she was crying and want to took me to rehap..RIP Mum too

    • @Eleventhearlofmars
      @Eleventhearlofmars Před 6 lety

      jimmy fabs are you on it as well? Your name sounds like a pseudonym for silver foil?

    • @juggalettelewis6472
      @juggalettelewis6472 Před 4 lety +3

      What was this documentary called?

    • @mmm091000
      @mmm091000 Před 4 lety +4

      Daniela Schwarz your English is fine well done you. Best wishes.

    • @daniellewatson9969
      @daniellewatson9969 Před 3 lety +3

      @@Eleventhearlofmars You are the one that sounds like an idiot. Explain how that sounds like a pseudonym for heroin.
      I'm not going to elaborate on my experience but knowing people who have been addicted to hammer for the most part of 30yrs I have NEVER heard of that.

  • @Harrylechat01
    @Harrylechat01 Před 8 lety +3004

    John Lydon seems like a very intelligent and likeable guy. The day after Sid Vicious died I went to church as many of my age group did in those days and there had been an elderly parishioner who had died in the same week. The priest peppered the mass with references to our "dear departed Sidney and all those who have died this week" to the extent that I asked him afterwards if he'd known about the death of Sid Vicious. He replied that he had, that it wasn't our place to judge the excesses of youth and fame and that he would pray for anyone he felt might need it.

    • @finismalorum9746
      @finismalorum9746 Před 8 lety +48

      +Harrylechat01 God doesn't exist stop believing in fairy tales.

    • @Harrylechat01
      @Harrylechat01 Před 8 lety +249

      Jäger Braun I find you quite funny. First of all for telling a complete stranger what to believe and secondly for assuming that back in 1979 I was of an age to be able to choose whether or not I went to mass. Also your self-serving "I didn't get what I wanted on the one occasion I tried means that there is no God" is a ludicrous over-simplification. Still by your name and spelling I guess English isn't your first language so that probably explains it (no sarcasm intended). Have a n ice life and when it's over you'll find out what, if anything, happens next.

    • @paulglancy2811
      @paulglancy2811 Před 8 lety +1

      +Harrylechat01 Did he not also sneak Amphetamine into that jungle celebrity prog, i refuse to give it it's full title, as it's full of Tit's and Fools...Paul.
      Work it out.

    • @paulglancy2811
      @paulglancy2811 Před 8 lety +4

      +Jäger Braun No I do not think there is a God at all. Would you, if you have one, send your Son here? Why do it back then, why not nowaday's, what a Magician he would be. Then isis would crucify him for being allegedly who he was/is?...Paul.

    • @Jimmy-me3fe
      @Jimmy-me3fe Před 8 lety +6

      +Harrylechat01 why would the priest include Sid into his sermon though? Sid hated religion??

  • @eleveneleven572
    @eleveneleven572 Před 4 lety +112

    Those final comments brought back an experience I had, around 6 yrs old.
    My mother always fed my friends. If we followed her to the shops we'd all get chocolate or ice cream. And my parents were poor, mum a part time school cook and dad often off work with operations on his stomach and back.
    Then on day I was with a friend and his mum took us to the shops. She bought him an ice cream.
    I remember the feeling. I felt for my mother and her generosity to my friend and how mean my friends mother was. And don't say she may have been poor....if that were the case a kind person would not have bought her son the ice cream while his friend looked on.
    That was a very early lesson that not everyone was like my parents and it made me love them more. It was also a life lesson for me.

    • @user-wt1pe7gk7j
      @user-wt1pe7gk7j Před 2 lety +5

      Eleven : Eleven, I know the feeling. So, I can understand what it was. It was... life experience, mate. 🤝

    • @kindone3257
      @kindone3257 Před rokem +6

      Yes! There is nothing worse than an adult stingy to a kid.

    • @rickcharon1197
      @rickcharon1197 Před měsícem +1

      the less you own, the more you share.
      The more you own, the less you share.
      Do not expect generosity from a person who has never known hunger because he cannot say how much it is torture, both physically and mentally

  • @rabbitraisin
    @rabbitraisin Před 4 lety +539

    I have a friend whose parents are old ravers who still want to live that life, always doing drugs around her and trying to get her to do them, and when she refuses they call her "boring", mock her appearance and interests etc. Once she walked into the room and they started doing those exaggerated fake yawns. I'm glad she became really anti drugs because of it, it could easily have gone the other way. And she always has a place at our dinner table :)

    • @notmyrealname9059
      @notmyrealname9059 Před 3 lety +33

      That's pretty sinister.
      Personally I've enjoyed a vast amount of non-alcoholic drugs over the years. My continuing irresponsibility is largely because I didn't opt to have children. To breed or not to breed.

    • @meganlangreck2488
      @meganlangreck2488 Před 3 lety +25

      Yeah I've known people who introduce alcohol and some drugs (NOT Heroin though) to their kids and use the use of it as some kind of bonding experience. It's bad enough. Good for your friend for seeing through this crap.

    • @denisekristen7620
      @denisekristen7620 Před 3 lety +17

      That's so sad. Some people shouldn't have any kids pets etc if they want to live that kind of life. Wishing that friend a happy life, away from the awful parents!

    • @TheJayLordx
      @TheJayLordx Před 3 lety +11

      That's genuinely horrifying. Good on her for having the guts and the insight to stray as far away from those morons as possible.

    • @mogueraguh
      @mogueraguh Před 2 lety +6

      Hahaha they sound like the funnest parents ever!!

  • @madeleinehague648
    @madeleinehague648 Před 9 lety +855

    'So glad this man in alive, well and still making noise!

  • @NigelFortune
    @NigelFortune Před 8 lety +1844

    John Lydon is one of the most captivating speakers i've ever seen in the flesh. Just a fantastic guy to listen to.

  • @mrdth1012
    @mrdth1012 Před 4 lety +41

    Sid was so easily influenced as well and wasn't mature enough to handle fame at such a young age. The fact that John is still hurt 40 years later is an example of true bromance.

  • @JasonSum1979
    @JasonSum1979 Před 4 lety +353

    John Lyndon is one of the most overlooked “super” intelligent guys in Rock & Roll (His opinion should be respected more so then a clown like Gene Simmons

    • @KittyKittyBangBang249
      @KittyKittyBangBang249 Před 4 lety +27

      Gene Simmons is the ULTIMATE phoney POS poser

    • @Galvion1980
      @Galvion1980 Před 4 lety +8

      no lies detected

    • @heelmatthowarth
      @heelmatthowarth Před 4 lety +18

      I’m a kiss fan and I agree with you the only reason that people don’t like kiss is because of Gene Simmons and his massive ego

    • @markmcallan973
      @markmcallan973 Před 3 lety +6

      You're right dude gene Simonds is a total dick!

    • @cheothegeo2742
      @cheothegeo2742 Před 3 lety +16

      Gene Simmons is an overrated sleezball businessman. That’s it.

  • @tonyk6586
    @tonyk6586 Před 8 lety +499

    this guy is brutally honest and deserves adoration,sid was his closest bud and he got hooked on crap,shame!!!!

    • @chocomanger6873
      @chocomanger6873 Před 6 lety +11

      He flip-flops a lot though. He's very good at getting people to back up his cause. He's great at stirring people up.

    • @kennycfc8842
      @kennycfc8842 Před 2 lety

      He couldn’t stand Sid,he’s a fuckin liar ✌️

    • @jansandman6983
      @jansandman6983 Před 2 lety

      he's noisy condescending narcissistic and egomaniac this guy.

  • @bearmassaro
    @bearmassaro Před 7 lety +294

    I LOVE John Lydons blunt intelligence.

    • @nigelcarren
      @nigelcarren Před 5 lety +2

      Me too, sadly those folks and politicians who are great at 'dancing around the point' (thereby completely avoiding it) are better celebrated! Best wishes to you... here are a couple of virtual beers 🍻

    • @MrBigheads08
      @MrBigheads08 Před 4 lety

      i think "sharp" would have been more apt.

  • @belindamartinez3985
    @belindamartinez3985 Před 3 lety +116

    Serving food and deliberately leaving out one person; I can only imagine how poor Sid and John felt. Of course that episode has remained in John's memory. RIP Sid.

    • @TeleAndRadioArchive
      @TeleAndRadioArchive Před rokem +4

      that would be off and not very nice but the way he describes it seems to be comically out of proportion, if she was doing heroin herself he expects normal manners, surely now he's an adult he can see it a bit differently, giving her son the drug is far worse and unforgivable

    • @desertrose1226
      @desertrose1226 Před 8 měsíci

      I never knew she’d be posh though I thought she’d talk like someone cheap and common lol

  • @rugbyslug
    @rugbyslug Před 2 lety +72

    What I love about John Lydon is -- it didn't turn out to be an act. He really is that annoyed, snarling, aggressive and hilarious. He is the guy on stage singing Anarchy. Even though he apparently never really cared for -- or even much about -- anarchy. Great artist.

    • @UNUSUALUSERNAME220
      @UNUSUALUSERNAME220 Před rokem +5

      And at this point, he has inadvertently assumed the position of legend as well! It may seem he is short tempered, but that all depends on who he is talking to. He is dedicated to the idea of exposing hypocrisy, and being honest at all times. When people say that the truth hurts, that is not a metaphor. Telling the truth is painful, because the truth forces people to look at themselves and admit, that they are not capable of dealing with the consequences that come along with being honest. He's extremely intelligent and when he realizes that the person he is talking to is not interested in truth, he becomes annoyed and scolds them for it. He is honest and intelligent. Most people can not deal with people who posses those two qualities! It forces them to look at their own shortcomings.

    • @shreddykreuger7783
      @shreddykreuger7783 Před 11 měsíci

      @@richardharrity1389 Ok Dick, and what have you done to change music, attitudes, politics and culture?

  • @Hans-fz6cc
    @Hans-fz6cc Před 8 lety +681

    John is an unbelievable smart bloke, love listening to what he has to say.

    • @hyrulesdestiny7163
      @hyrulesdestiny7163 Před 8 lety +8

      The most amazing guy ever to listen too. I was born 27 years after did died, buy I know so much about him, mainly from johnny. Sid was just a lovely person who never really had a great life, and as much as johnny hated him at the time, he's learned to understand him a lot more. Johnny is amazing and very intelligent.

    • @unaaaaaaa1934
      @unaaaaaaa1934 Před 8 lety

      +HyrulesDestiny You're 10 years old, isn't it?

    • @unaaaaaaa1934
      @unaaaaaaa1934 Před 8 lety

      +HyrulesDestiny How'd you find out about the Sex Pistols and Sid Vicious?

    • @Jencifer13
      @Jencifer13 Před 7 lety +8

      +asian person - how did you find out about them? Don't be an 'elitist punk'; elitist punks are just hipsters in disguise.

    • @whistlingwhippet
      @whistlingwhippet Před 7 lety

      Sadly true.

  • @cristinasearle9685
    @cristinasearle9685 Před 7 lety +878

    How can you not love John Lyndon!! Smart, funny and fantastic to fans!!

    • @dariowestern
      @dariowestern Před 7 lety +12

      Cristina Searle The media are a bunch of arseholes for the most part.

    • @BonnieMagpie
      @BonnieMagpie Před 6 lety +4

      During his pistols younger years, not the most appealing during interviews; he must have met The Queen and had a change of heart.

    • @VolkXue
      @VolkXue Před 6 lety +3

      Easy.. I saw him wearing American flag shorts while standing in line at some yuppie coffee shop on a beach.. Fucking poser

    • @garfield_asmr
      @garfield_asmr Před 6 lety

      adam tarver Seriously? That sounds hilarious.

    • @toaste9026
      @toaste9026 Před 6 lety +4

      Thatguy WhoDoesThings he IS the media. He has played a role in the very media you speak of for many years. He collects a pay check from the very media you speak of. He himself is a product for making the media money. His message has always stunk of hypocrisy.

  • @stuiep1983
    @stuiep1983 Před 2 lety +5

    Can feel the anger and sadness when he speaks about Sid.

  • @thai2go
    @thai2go Před 4 lety +16

    You can tell that he missed and really loved Sid.

  • @exeuroweenie
    @exeuroweenie Před 6 lety +82

    Doesn't everyone wish they had a friend like Lydon? His loyalty is almost superhuman.

    • @letapearson2043
      @letapearson2043 Před 4 lety

      exeuroweenie This is one of the smartest comments I have ever read! Thanks! 👍

    • @LeshaAnn
      @LeshaAnn Před 4 lety +1

      exeuroweenie GOD I hope you're being sarcastic.

    • @zombywoof9188
      @zombywoof9188 Před 4 lety +3

      Got one. Possibly three.

    • @aversivespider
      @aversivespider Před rokem +4

      His loyalty to his wife was very touching.

    • @boum62
      @boum62 Před 7 měsíci

      Great shame that Mr lyndon did not have kids. He seems a man made for fatherhood which is the best compliment I can give to any man.

  • @imreallydead.23
    @imreallydead.23 Před 7 lety +114

    "she cooked devilied kidneys for Sidney vicious" 😂 😂 😂

  • @nkmcfrln
    @nkmcfrln Před 6 lety +4

    What’s good about John is he appreciates what he has in his life and what other people don’t.

  • @holliehopewell4306
    @holliehopewell4306 Před rokem +13

    It breaks my heart to see this. John was just a kid himself, he didn't know any better. He's said before he blames himself and he really shouldn't

  • @chrispalin4043
    @chrispalin4043 Před 7 lety +80

    He does an awesome Sid Vicious impression 😂👍

  • @nvtcapital8161
    @nvtcapital8161 Před 2 lety +7

    The more I hear John Lydon, the more respect I have for him. He's brutally honest.

  • @arcitejack
    @arcitejack Před 3 lety +85

    Think about all the adults who hated John back in 1970s and thought he was trash. The man is mountain. The way he talks about Sid is like a Greek tragedy. And another thing while I’m on my soap box, John gives a damn about the poor and working class which is a hell of a lot more than those pompous adults back in the 70s. Cheers John. Glad you never went to Eton.

    • @Miriboheme
      @Miriboheme Před rokem +3

      well said, jack.

    • @Pea_Green
      @Pea_Green Před 9 měsíci +1

      Thinking on it in August 2023 and the losses he has suffered, especially after caring for and losing his wife, my heart bleeds for him because he feels things so deeply. Bless him. He is a good good man.

    • @danw1374
      @danw1374 Před 8 měsíci +1

      Your real friends will always be honest and tell you when you need to 'Sort your fking life out'

  • @KellyK387
    @KellyK387 Před 6 lety +17

    His mother was no mother she was bad news and an enabler . John is spot on here .

  • @noillucs3392
    @noillucs3392 Před 8 lety +186

    This is so true when he speaks about the sharing of food in a social situation and a parent leaving a child's friends out of a meal is a dreadful thing to do. I find it the most insulting thing to do to any age. Don't serve food if it means others are left out so rude. I am of the age group that was around when his music was out there, sorry I wasn't a fan but I am now of his talks.

    • @nathanbruce1992
      @nathanbruce1992 Před 4 lety +4

      Could be they couldnt afford to pay for the friends tbh

    • @bobsoldrecords1503
      @bobsoldrecords1503 Před 4 lety +3

      Lydon comes from a big Irish family. With Sid, it was just him and his mum really

    • @rubyredall2145
      @rubyredall2145 Před 3 lety +2

      I ve never been in a situation where my parents wouldn t offer my friend food, but l would have just shared my plate. Mind you, Sid looked half starved, Lydon well fed!

    • @danielafoslin2799
      @danielafoslin2799 Před 3 lety +4

      Back in the day an ex bf’s friend cooked brats for everyone except me and made a point of it. The fact that I still remember it now more than a decade later indicates what an absolute twat you have to be to do something so cruel. Even if you don’t like someone, don’t make an ass of yourself. 🤡

  • @alisonwilliams4862
    @alisonwilliams4862 Před 4 lety +79

    I always felt a bit uneasy watching John Lydon on TV when I was a kid lol. But as an adult, I see that the guy seems very upfront, intelligent and has integrity. He was one of the few who had the guts to attempt to expose Jimmy Savile for God's sake!

  • @richardtherrien4696
    @richardtherrien4696 Před 5 lety +32

    What an intelligent man. I have enormous respect for him.

  • @munchkintheoneandonly9253
    @munchkintheoneandonly9253 Před 3 lety +19

    I loved this interview, when john said in my house everybody got something nobody was left out, just like I'm my mum and dad if we brought someone home at meal time it was a bit off everyone's plate to make up an extra one

  • @afvet5075
    @afvet5075 Před 3 lety +17

    Sid never had a chance with a mother that is or was a junkie. It is just unimagineable.

  • @GhANeC
    @GhANeC Před 3 lety +6

    Love him, hate him, or ignore him, the man always spit it out just as it is.

  • @shanelle-rae3309
    @shanelle-rae3309 Před 4 lety +15

    This actually made me cry like how cruel can you be

  • @mikewashington88
    @mikewashington88 Před 3 lety +6

    I dont think there is a more brutally honest person on Earth, than John Lydon!

  • @CopiousDoinksLLC
    @CopiousDoinksLLC Před 7 lety +154

    John is bloody right about this. I can speak from personal experience on this one - when your parent introduces you (and keeps _supplying you_) with drugs, it's really, _really_ difficult to try and push yourself away from it. It sets up a connection with the drug where you feel comforted by it, and pretty soon it gets to be that you rely on it to shield yourself from life in general.
    If you're a parent and you give your kids that shit, you should be ashamed because you're robbing your child of a normal life.

    • @HULLGRAFFITI
      @HULLGRAFFITI Před 4 lety +3

      but if the drugs are free whats the problem ?

    • @maxmillman9477
      @maxmillman9477 Před 2 lety +3

      I went through this, AND had an injury caused by an unprovoked attack, which predisposed me to using to deal with the pain, at age 15! I was even told the drug I was taking wasn't addictive... how was I to know any better!?

    • @hey_james
      @hey_james Před 2 lety +1

      I think this concept is so foreign to most people here, that a parent could do such horrible things to a child for those mostly raised in middle class families with privileged backgrounds. Not to say this type of abuse is uniquely systemic to poorer areas, but it is certainly more common place. I grew up in such an area were these things happened, its real, and there are far too many kids being subjected to this type of life and not enough support provided to help them.

    • @101Volts
      @101Volts Před rokem +2

      @@HULLGRAFFITI Don't believe the _florist_ when he tells you that the _roses_ are "free..."

  • @chrispalin4043
    @chrispalin4043 Před 7 lety +38

    Tears in his eyes. He really means it👍

  • @mgmail7279
    @mgmail7279 Před 6 lety +67

    Rewatching just to see that someone in the world can recognize when another is f'd because of a narcissistic ungenerous horrible parent. Thanks, John. Most of the time people just point out our flaws not knowing what abuse we're dealing with in private.

  • @metalmassacre3144
    @metalmassacre3144 Před 4 lety +7

    Poor bloke never stood a chance with a mum like that. If someone gave Sid a bit of love and nurturing like a proper parent should have he might still be alive

  • @misanthrop1958
    @misanthrop1958 Před 6 lety +23

    Back in the day as "Johnny Rotten" I really disliked him, but nowadays, the more I get to know him, the more sympathetic I feel towards him!

  • @zoevtapas
    @zoevtapas Před 8 lety +150

    love lydon...and that has always been the truth: Nancy didn't introduce sid to the drug scene, he had that much at home. he had a rough upbringing.

    • @brianamariiee6481
      @brianamariiee6481 Před 7 lety +21

      yeah, Nancy may have been another person to encourage it but everyone makes it seem like its all her fault

    • @Jencifer13
      @Jencifer13 Před 7 lety +19

      I'm glad I scrolled down a bit --- I always questioned the wholesale vilification of Nancy. After reading Deborah Spungen's (Nancy's mum) memoir, I had a whole different view of Nancy. She most certainly did not introduce him to heroin. Their story is so sad, but Nancy has been portrayed as the reason Sid died and often nothing more is said about it. What people need to remember is that the truth is Sid was responsible for Nancy's death and his own. No one will ever know exactly what happened between them that night (Nancy's mum has an interesting take on it, one that I agree with), so anyone who claims to know the 'truth' is speculating, just like the rest of us.

    • @zoevtapas
      @zoevtapas Před 7 lety +10

      I read Deborah's book in high school,along with lydon's book at the time. tragic.John couldn't have done a thing. sid was long lost before Nancy.

    • @watchmanschannelofdespair
      @watchmanschannelofdespair Před 7 lety +9

      Yeah, I myself had been guilty of that I must admit, I was ignorant back then, the film Sid & Nancy didn't help my opinion of her at the time.
      Both had sad lives, they died too young and died as junkies.

    • @zoevtapas
      @zoevtapas Před 7 lety +1

      Victor Castro definitely. The new movie on her death is interesting...but no real evidence about her death etc. We'll probably never know what really happened.

  • @insertcolorfulmetaphor8520

    You can't blame yourself, mate... You did the right things, by being there for him and showing him true friendship & love.

  • @gaylelau001
    @gaylelau001 Před 4 lety +42

    I just love John Lydon for his steeley-eyed perception, amazing, natural intellect and his fearlessness in speaking the truth. He is of the top class of human beings.

  • @garybeckman3382
    @garybeckman3382 Před 6 lety +13

    I love this guy. He is a legend. A proper human being

  • @guitarstella1
    @guitarstella1 Před 8 lety +43

    you cant help like john he speaks his mind

  • @glenda1385
    @glenda1385 Před 2 lety +10

    My mother was the same way as Sid's. And I learned an knew the difference between right and wrong, as I believe that we are all born with a sense of knowing. And when I had my son, I knew that my life had to change in order for his to be better. I explained to my son that I could be his friend but that I had to be his mother first. He grew up knowing that he could talk with me about anything but he also knew that drug use wasn't acceptable. I raised him to know that anyone that offered him drugs didn't care about his physical well-being to start with and didn't deserve to be apart of his life. I'm still in treatment (methadone) and probably will be for a long time. I'm present in my child's life and will continue to be, as nothing will ever come before him, on this earth. I have had to deal with my past life for a long time and will continue to until I get better but when you have a child it's not about you anymore. It's about them and raising them to be happy, decent, well rounded people. You don't get to live through them, that's disturbing on so many different levels to me.

    • @Pea_Green
      @Pea_Green Před 9 měsíci +1

      Kudos to you, Glenda.

  • @shaun5944
    @shaun5944 Před 3 lety +9

    I never used to get J L, but I do now. Good straight talking man who cares about children. Poor Sid, he didn't stand a chance with a so called mother like that, It's so damaging. Well said John 👍🇬🇧

  • @kenmills30
    @kenmills30 Před 8 lety +239

    Little stories like the lack of generosity of Sid's mum in giving food to his mates and his acute shame at this can be so much more revealing in understanding a character like Vicious than a million leather jackets or spiky hairstyles. Those seemingly insignificant things can have enormous repercussions on the personality in later life. Lydon should be teaching kids in school about life not those syllabus automatons who we call teachers or is it educators now?

    • @rottenwishes575
      @rottenwishes575 Před 5 lety +11

      Ken Mills This. My husband grew up with a mother like that, and it leaves permanent scars.

    • @Kaiserbill99
      @Kaiserbill99 Před 5 lety +13

      Not the role of teachers but the role of parents.

    • @johnlynn9388
      @johnlynn9388 Před 5 lety +4

      Agreed it’s interesting with some celebrities and people in general how their childhoods have a big influence on their character. The best other famous example I can think of is Courtney Love who’s dad fed her acid when she was a kid and then her parents basically abandoned her.

    • @morgankelly9725
      @morgankelly9725 Před 4 lety +3

      @@Kaiserbill99 Thank you. My sister is a schoolteacher and it is a tough job that doesn't pay well.

    • @MrAllallalla
      @MrAllallalla Před 4 lety +6

      I'm gonna be taking care of children in preschool when I'm done with my education. I'm here, I'm listening and I've had a rough childhood. Not this level of rough but bad enough. And I'm sure as hell looking for signs of child neglect and abuse and for these kids I'll do everything in my power to change their life in school and at home for the better and I'll give every kid in my group a safe, loving, reliable environment.

  • @NataliaYukiMiku
    @NataliaYukiMiku Před 7 lety +219

    Poor Sid, he was only 21, a kid... 😭

    • @danielaschwarz1971
      @danielaschwarz1971 Před 7 lety +14

      That is true,he hadn´t a good live and 21 is too young....a kid of heroin and he hadn´t a chance at all.His mom was of heroin and his father left his family when Sid was just 2 years old....and Christopher Beverly died on cancer...then he met Nancy and was totally of heroin,,,,I could cry because Sid was a nice person and she destroyed him like his mom.Sorry for this english;-)

    • @alisaforesthillsvictoria1129
      @alisaforesthillsvictoria1129 Před 5 lety +2

      Too young to die so so sorry

    • @POB-rocker
      @POB-rocker Před 4 lety +6

      He was also a murderer

    • @POB-rocker
      @POB-rocker Před 4 lety

      @inside outside upside downside Nancy Spungen

    • @Lucasrainford
      @Lucasrainford Před 4 lety +3

      @@POB-rocker read up some dude

  • @rose4490
    @rose4490 Před 5 lety +41

    I've always loved Johnny Rotten(Lydon), and I always will. People who are honest and straight shooters are rare, and precious.

  • @domsawyer8953
    @domsawyer8953 Před 2 lety +7

    Absolutely love John Lydon. What an authentic man!

  • @TruNordics14
    @TruNordics14 Před 8 lety +287

    Jesus, Sid would have had to go to a *good* psychologist for years to even hope for a normal life.

    • @root6683
      @root6683 Před 8 lety +29

      a psychologist would haveput him in jail or some mental institute because he was dangerous . or he would fuck him up ever more because all psychologists are liars deceivers .

    • @codymeneke
      @codymeneke Před 7 lety +6

      he mightve just ended up in prison anyways for Nancy's murder

    • @TruNordics14
      @TruNordics14 Před 7 lety +20

      Peter F
      In actuality there are people whom with the help of psychologists recover from being self destructive maniacs.

    • @root6683
      @root6683 Před 7 lety +1

      +TruNordics14 yes, but this would not have been the case .

    • @Driessens_Peter
      @Driessens_Peter Před 7 lety +20

      he was a normal boy in his puberty, showing a little bit off. it's a shame he died so young. because people can change on therselves when getting older, with no help from shrinks

  • @panscentralexpresspresents4733

    My mom and step dad were needle users, and my step dad got me started too by time i was 16, Mom pretended she didn't know until she ran out of dope then she would be begging for a me to split a shot with her.
    I really relate to the story of Sid and Nancy, also Kurt and Courtney, just for the single fact that they were all addicts... Its like some weird soul tie, like i look at them and see apart of myself... The needle is defining.

  • @mechanicjobs
    @mechanicjobs Před 3 lety +4

    I like this guy. Honest, brutally honest and he does have moral compass. 👍

  • @GrayWoIf
    @GrayWoIf Před 6 lety +25

    Sidney had no chance it's amazing he made it to 21

    • @sitluxetluxfuit4481
      @sitluxetluxfuit4481 Před 2 měsíci

      His name was John Simon Richie. Not Sidney or Sid for that matter, great way of getting your opinion across "had no chance" every second comment has said that

  • @davidskeeterskeeter1835
    @davidskeeterskeeter1835 Před 5 lety +4

    I’m 73,,and I really respect and admire John Lydon good on yer fella your a straight guy,,All the way from Somerset UK,✊✊✊👏🏻👏🏻🇬🇧

    • @sirandrelefaedelinoge
      @sirandrelefaedelinoge Před 5 lety

      @ David Boulton - Somerset, eh...? Are you another butter salesman...? 😜

  • @Colstonewall
    @Colstonewall Před 2 lety +6

    Can't imagine having a mother who did that. It's surprising to me Sid lasted as long as he did.

  • @ryanmcgrath339
    @ryanmcgrath339 Před 4 lety +10

    Johnny rotten is one incredible man he is so genuine in his emotions and a great character

  • @Mr11Worcester
    @Mr11Worcester Před 4 lety +2

    What a fucking legend I love that man

  • @andrewlorenz3139
    @andrewlorenz3139 Před rokem +6

    I was fortunate to be at this Q and A. John was generous with his time. Initially the organisers said there would be a draw for signed copies of John's book. However he had signed all 300 before the event so we all got one. Said to me a lot about the man and it's sad to hear all the disagreements the band members are now having.

  • @TheDickPuller
    @TheDickPuller Před 3 lety +48

    Oh without question, you win the lottery when you’re born into a family with loving, caring parents. We were piss pot poor, don’t know it at the time, my Mum could make a 3 course meal out of fuck all, not just for us, but anyone we brought home with us. John is right, as always.

  • @spacealienjesus709
    @spacealienjesus709 Před 4 lety +17

    John just tells it like it is..
    A realist..such a rare feat these days..

  • @danielwilder7835
    @danielwilder7835 Před rokem +4

    John’s intelligence is off the scale at times, I can’t stop listening to him and it scares me how switched on he is. I feel like I have something to learn from this man.

  • @r3idmcread212
    @r3idmcread212 Před 2 lety +3

    Johnny rotten is a perfect example of don’t judge a person on their looks because he’s very well spoken and you can tell he has a good heart

  • @spiratustreviso9885
    @spiratustreviso9885 Před 4 lety +14

    And this is why I just love Johnny... He's the real deal. Genuinely a wonderful human being who just doesn't tolerate fools very well. Then again, why should he?

  • @katelinstach6995
    @katelinstach6995 Před 5 lety +14

    He had a life extremely similar to mine, except i got Oxi for my 16th, and my dad was exactly like that emotionally....but I didnt end up like him. 27, 2 kids, been on methadone for 6 years, and working 2 jobs, wish he would've been able to get the right help.

    • @PinkCircleO8
      @PinkCircleO8 Před 6 měsíci

      I bet your kids are proud/will be be proud when old enough to understand of you for getting on the right path.

  • @andreat.2809
    @andreat.2809 Před 4 lety +19

    This is a wonderful speech. John speaks clearly, honestly and fairly. This does not mean that everything is acceptable, even if I completely agree with what he said, but his speech is direct, clear, it does not lend itself to misunderstandings or interpretations and this is a great quality. In the time of politicians who talk on social networks, younger kids should listen to John at least an hour a day.

  • @vinceallen4577
    @vinceallen4577 Před 5 lety +13

    Johnny Rotten" is one of the most honest people I've ever heard- used to have a show on MTV- they fired him because he broke through the bullshit- best show ever!

  • @littleogeechee223
    @littleogeechee223 Před 4 lety +6

    Sometimes I just want to hug Johnny Lyndon! Thank God he is still with us.

    • @Pea_Green
      @Pea_Green Před 9 měsíci

      Same here. If I saw him anywhere he would get a huge hug from me.

    • @littleogeechee223
      @littleogeechee223 Před 7 měsíci

      Oh, God! Was just going to say the very same thing.I siukd just hug him, too, for his truth about Jimmy Savile

  • @henrikschmidt3964
    @henrikschmidt3964 Před 3 lety +3

    Mr. Lydon really comes off well here. Articulate, thoughtful and unapologetic.
    I have underestimated the man.

  • @nbcguitar
    @nbcguitar Před rokem +5

    You can see genuine hurt and love for his friend in this clip

  • @joeytrimble1558
    @joeytrimble1558 Před 7 lety +14

    johnny is the definition of sincerity

  • @angrycat3525
    @angrycat3525 Před 4 lety +4

    I've read some of John Lydon's books, and the man is extremely intelligent. He doesn't get even half the credit he deserves!

  • @machinech183
    @machinech183 Před 3 lety +3

    Christ, sounds like my mother. Could listen to Lydon speak all day, man's full of insight.

  • @diarmuidphelan9664
    @diarmuidphelan9664 Před rokem +4

    So glad John’s still around to set straight. The loss of Sid and how it unfolded was a tragedy.

  • @BulletmanDoom
    @BulletmanDoom Před 7 lety +52

    Sid was doomed from the day he entered the world.
    We all are but his journey was a lot shorter than most of us. It's a reflection of the poor sods charisma that he can instil so much emotion after all these years. It certainly wasn't his musical prowess.

  • @bradwood1930
    @bradwood1930 Před 2 lety +4

    He may not be perfect, but he's wise and when it comes to the crunch, knows the difference between right and wrong!
    Good on you John!!

  • @pinky-ud1rt
    @pinky-ud1rt Před 3 lety +2

    What great man he talks the truth so down to earth

  • @l.salinas6783
    @l.salinas6783 Před rokem +2

    John Lydon you are the best! You're a good person with a kind caring warm heart❤️‍🔥who wanted nothing but the best for Sid. RIP Sid we all love you re p

  • @CYCOxFOX13
    @CYCOxFOX13 Před 2 lety +3

    I could listen to John speak about anything for hours

  • @tomkent4656
    @tomkent4656 Před 5 lety +6

    Mrs Vicious sounds like a right piece of work!

  • @gregorydavis4742
    @gregorydavis4742 Před 3 lety +1

    RIP Sid wish you could still be here mate

  • @desertrose1226
    @desertrose1226 Před 5 lety +5

    This guy unlike Sid, had loving parents. Poor Sid, my heart breaks for the kid.

  • @seattlebeard
    @seattlebeard Před 3 lety +5

    This man never ceases to impress me, even after 40+ years.

  • @tracker281
    @tracker281 Před 4 lety +3

    Love this honesty. Very rare..

  • @belindamartinez3985
    @belindamartinez3985 Před 3 lety +6

    Besides his mother and everything she did, we mustn't forget the absence of a father figure in Sid's life. He abandoned his family when Sid was only two years old. He didn't even have a sibling, somebody equal in his home to share his situation. He was completely alone in his upbringing. Correct me someone if I'm mistaken, but I read somewhere that Sid turned up for school on his first day alone at the age of five. What I don't understand is how Social Services didn't intervene.

  • @loveanimals969
    @loveanimals969 Před 2 lety +2

    Completely agree. When I read about Sid Vicious, I thought it was so, so sad. His mother was appalling. She didn't try to help him at all.

  • @nMsFreeStyleZ
    @nMsFreeStyleZ Před 4 lety +4

    One of the most emotional intelligent people I know of

  • @maxmillman9477
    @maxmillman9477 Před 2 lety +4

    It's sad how a person's parents have such a huge impact on their lives, and kids don't get to choose them.

  • @sed8me69
    @sed8me69 Před 3 lety +1

    Woah, that flash, through his look, posture and demeanor in the last seconds of the clip....
    Brothers in Arms.

  • @soroyathemysticmoon1023
    @soroyathemysticmoon1023 Před 3 lety +3

    so sad and cruel to raise a child like this :(

  • @maree-mareesongwriter6226

    Mother served him devilled kidneys with a side of heroin, wow! Some upbringing. John Lyndon is a very insightful person, and real survivor!

  • @TheIkaraCult
    @TheIkaraCult Před rokem +3

    Anyone who's had a friend or family member get hooked on that shit knows Johns story here.

  • @relacser
    @relacser Před 3 lety +2

    Poor Sid's life really did start from behind the eight-ball, literally and metaphorically.

  • @nkley1
    @nkley1 Před 5 lety +5

    It always go back to the childhood.