OLIVER 1850 Tractor Chisel Plowing
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- In this video Big Tractor Power is out in the field with a 92 hp OLIVER 1850 tractor working with a 9 shank OLIVER 466 Chisel Plow. This video shares the sights and sounds of tillage in South Central, WI. Viewers will also learn about this classic tractor's production history, specifications and price tag. Watch for a FWA OLIVER 1850 and standard Cockshutt 1850 tractor in the video.
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Now that Oliver is the perfect picture of a row crop tractor: open station with duals. That is how grandfather farmed his entire life.
The 1960’s was a good time in farming. Different era when 90-100 hp was the big tractor on the farm handling a job each season.
Great video. My dad bought a used 1850 diesel in 1976. I rode the 10 miles home between his legs after he bought it. I was1yr old. We still have the tractor today. You can't beat that Perkins engine.
Very cool history. What jobs on the farm did the 1850 do.
Those 1850's are rated at 92 hp. They sure do a lot of work with those 92 hp.
92 hp was big tractor power in its day. 👍👍
The Oliver hydraul shift did a pretty good job delivering power and the Perkins diesel is capable of quite a bit
@@bigtractorpower I had an 1850 gas. Had been rebuilt with m&w pistons. At a 121 hp it was just starting labour on the dyno.
@@douglassellers7528 Man ,I bet she was thirsty too ,but good power!
Never hp,but always torque.
Best looking tractors ever made. It’s good to see one pulling Oliver implements.
This was a cool tillage team for sure.
I own an 1850, love that Perkins engine. Its pretty easy on fuel compared to my IH 856, and starts good in the cold. My 1850 wears a White 1730 QA loader and also is the round baling tractor. The 1850 and 856 are some of the best 90 hp class tractors to come out of the late 60s in my opinion.
Awesome, Love Olivers. We had an 1850 diesel with fender tanks, absolutely loved that tractor. We had bolt on duals, that was so much fun to put on by myself (I only weighed about 145lbs in high school when we had this tractor in the 70's). We didn't have a chisel plow but a 4 bottom moldboard, field cultivator, disc, cultimultcher, planters and drills. Thanks for showing an 1850 brings back memories.
Great tractor and implement line up. Was the 1850 the big tractor on your farm?
@@bigtractorpower It was, we had a Super 88 diesel and a Farmall Super C.
Grew up in Charles City, IA. My father, uncle, father in law all worked in the tractor plant. Oliver was a very proud family oriented business. So sad they closed.
The stock 1850 with 354 Perkins wasn’t turbocharged.. You could however find that same motor turbocharged in other tractors and combines ie 1135 Massey Ferguson tractors and 750 and 760 Massey combines. We had a 1850 Perkins, which I still own and love. Pulled 6 16 plow. Super dependable and great sound when pulling hard. We pulled 6,16 inch with front wheels in the air a lot. Too much plow really but “Bessy”,as my dad called her would pull it. Still use it but not on tough jobs anymore. Love it!!!!
We had an 1850 front wheel assist with powershift in south Australia when I was a kid around 1969/70. I always remember the mudguards were fuel tanks with a dip stick to check the level. The biggest tractor in our neighbourhood at the time.
We still use our 1850 for just about everything from tillage and silage cutting, and running the haybine and baler. Such versatile tractors that sip fuel.
Very cool. It would be neat to see an 1850 on a forage harvester.
It sure was in its element the plow wasn’t even working it hard or it didn’t seem to be .
I’m not a farmer but I love their work and their equipment and respect all our farmers .
And I appreciate what they do for our world and fighting all obstacles to achieve their goals .
Our own government is the biggest obstacle I’m sure .
Thanks for a great video
I am not a farmer. Like you I enjoy seeing the work that is done to feed the world.
The tractor operator can feel the power transfer to the wheels transferring to the soil profile. Ground to tire slippage is approximately 6 percent and can be witnessed in the video.
I grew up on Oliver tractors. A few 1800's a 1755 a super 88. Minneapolis Moline, G 1000 Vista Minneapolis Moline plainsman A4T. That 1755 is the most comfortable open station tractor that you could ever mow hay with
Nice line up. My neighbor used a 1750 and 1755. They used them to plant corn, seed wheat, mow and bake hay and harvest kidney beans along with their three Steiger 4wds.
Great video! Brings back alot of memories on the family farm, and proud to say most of our Oliver tractors are still in use.
Very nice. Great tractors.
My uncle John had an 1850 and we would occasionally use it on our farm. One of my best memories of that tractor was when my brother was moldboard plowing out in our back forty (the swamp) and all you could see was what appeared to be a brush fire over the tree-tops, just one continuous cloud of black smoke. It was a thing of beauty! I miss that tractor, I really do. He ended up trading it in for a really rusty and crappy looking F--d. The Oliver was ten times the tractor of it's replacement. Bad decision uncle John, bad decision. Just sayin.
Love seeing the old school tractors. Brings back childhood memories.
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Love the sound. Ran my uncle's when I was home on leave from the Navy. The thing I remember most about it was how fast it went in road gear. He was a city farmer and he had acres all over the place.
It probably had the optional high speed rear end because none of that series was known for speed lol. The 3 speed over/under was *better,* but without the high speed rear end, we’re talking maybe 18mph on the 3 speed and not even 15 mph on a 6 or 12 speed
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Awesome video as always! Oliver actually had 7 different 50 series tractors; 1550 through 2150.
We have a 550 that is pretty much just a show tractor. My tractor is a 1655 that has a loader, cleans manure, fixes the yard and roads with a box scraper, mows, rakes hay, and runs a small square baler. We also have a 1955, but I haven't used it much yet. I've pulled a sprinkler track closer and a wing mower with it.
Best tractor built! It makes me very happy to see Oliver’s on CZcams owned by caring farmers. I wish Oliver were still in business.
That's right best tractor ever FACT
It is a shame Oliver was retired. Where I grew up in WNY it was a top selling brand into the 70’s.
@bigtractorpower my grandad bought a '64 year model 1800 fwd diesel for his dairy farm in upstate NY. It was the biggest tractor he had. Used it mainly for ploughing but he put a cab and front-end loader on it for snow removal. It still sees some use today, but there are new horses in the stable that my uncles run like the New Holland T9. My favorite will always be an Oliver
As always a great video. 50 + year old Oliver looks and sounds good. The plow looks almost new. There was a Oliver dealer in neighboring town where I grew up China Grove NC. My Daddy had a 550 Oliver. It was a great tractor.
Love to 50 series sound. I had an open station 1750; best starting diesel engine we’ve ever owned. Had a cab but my daughter wouldn’t let me mount it because she wanted to tan while raking hay🙄. Traded in 2017 on new 4WD. Still looked new. We still operate a 1755.
What a great looking setup!
I like watching the older small stuff as much as the big fancy stuff! Great video
I enjoy getting to feature tractors from the 60’s and 70’s.
That chisel plow looks about as small as the one we had on our farm. It took FOREVER to plow the field! LOL.
Great video, one of our landlords is an Oliver man, he’s got about 6 I think.
Very cool.
As a teenager in 1968, 1969, and 1970, I plowed a lot of both corn and bean ground here in central Iowa with Dads 1850 diesel. The neighbors couldn't believe it would pull 6-16's, but it did.
Great brand of tractors and plows.
Always glad to see a Oliver Video.
Oliver is a great brand. It’s exciting to catch one at work looking like 1967 with a matching implement.
That tractor is a bad hammer, jammer. All those early 1960's 90+ hp tractors were the bomb. I liked the JD 4020, the Allis Chalmers D21, The IH 1206, The Ford 9000, the biig Minneapolis Moline. I worked for Green Giant driving a pea combine the Summers of 1973 and 1974. There were 6 tractors on a crew and we had about all makes and models, all of the 80 to 100 hp range. I got to try them all.
The 1850 is one of the best Olivers in my book.
It’s one of the greats for sure.
Good times in Southern Illinois! 1850 gas dualed up open station, 12 shank mounted chisel. First time at 14yr.
Growing up in West Central Minnesota, it's debatable as to which two tractors (880 diesel or our 1850) that I spent more time on. Both were year-round workhorses. Our 1850 planted the crops, ran the cultivator, chopped silage, disced, and in the winter, blew snow. Such a great tractor. ❤
Very cool. A farm I grew up about a mile from was all Oliver and Steiger. They had an 88, 880, 1850, 1750 and 1755 along with three Steigers. I always enjoyed seeing the Olivers. Today they still have Steigers but have moved to John Deere and Case IH row crops.
The Other Green....!!!! Just don't see enough of 'em.....
I grew up with two cylinders, and 4020s. Most of my career has been in 40 and 50 series John Deere as well as 6, 7, and 8000 series John Deeres. At home I have a small operation with a 4020 as my primary tractor along with a 60 and my dad's 70 Diesel and 730 Diesel. After the ice storm in March I bought a Super 77 diesel to be the primary tractor for my generator. At half the displacement of the 4020 I am hoping for a large savings in fuel use. It sat for more than ten years so I have had to do a lot to get it running good. Lift pump and injection pump have been overhauled and I plan on replacing the injectors soon. It starts hard on a warm day but after warming up is a smooth runner. Hopefully injectors will help but if not then I guess an overhaul will be next. Not many Olivers in my area and this is the first one I have ever operated.
Thank you for sharing. The Super 77 is a good one to have. How does it compare to the 60?
@@bigtractorpower the best comparison at this point. The former owner of the 60 used to pull a three bottom 14 inch plow with it. The former owner of the 77 said he use a two bottom plow. I have had a 237 mounted picker on the 60 and it handled that good. Even though the 77 is rated a little higher horsepower, I think the 60 has a little bit more snot. The 77 has manual steering but I find it easier to steer than a Farmall M so between that and the fact that it doesn't have a hand clutch will make it a good yard tractor for putting hay wagons away at the end of the day. Plus it will be able to run the generator, one job a John Deere two cylinder can't do. I would say that the 60 in most areas is just plain built heavier than the Oliver.
Use to own a 1800 Gasser. Was a great old tractor. Always started on the coldest days. Made a great tractor for blowing snow
Very nice. 👍👍
Love the old tractors Jason... Thx buddy
It always fun getting to feature these classics at work.
@@bigtractorpower if your ever close to Owen county I'll get ya to film my 784 international.... It's a gem
My dad worked for a Oliver dealer in the 50's sold 50 some in a year at the dealership
Very cool.
Great video,,,,,love the square front red and green tractors
We had both an Oliver 1865 and a 1655. We also had a Minneapolis Moline Z that my Dad kept and it is over 60 years old and he still putzes with it. Our neighbor had some old Oliver 77s and Cockshutts. About a mile up the road from us, was our local Oliver, MM & White dealer. I loved driving them when I was a kid.
Wow the 1865 is so rare. Very nice. I think 12 1865s were built.
@@bigtractorpower Exactly! That dealer had a real "pipeline" to the manufacturer back in the day. I loved driving it. I kinda wish my Dad kept them.
Very nice Oliver. Awesome looking with those beefy duals.
Thank you for watching Scott.
When I was in trade school my friend and I worked for a farmer who had a 1950 and a 1850 diesel tractor and we spent a lot nights after school chisel plowing his fields.
Very nice. I imagine everyone knew where the 1950 was working.
Our oliver 1850 is a gas it was our big tractor it took some of the work load off the 1650 we have when grandpa and dad picked up more ground then my dad bought a 2-135 white after a few years we have 12 Olivers and 6 Whites
Wow that is a bunch of cool tractors.
I loved that Perkin's engine. Pulled a 6-16 plow with it. The diesel was not turbocharged.
That’s a nice pair. Almost bought a 466 plow at one point but needed a disk chisel to handle corn stalks. They are a little hard to find. Also you forgot the optional creeper gear and the optional high speed rear end. Lol
Seeing the 466 chisel with the 1850 is a great history opportunity. I used my price guide for this video rather than the sales brochure. I was surprised a creeper gear was not listed as these tractors were popular for running FMC LV pea combines.
I don’t think I have ever seen the creeper drive shown in any brochures for some reason. Don’t know if it was just such a regional thing they didn’t think it was worth advertising or what. I know DelMonte bought a lot of them for pulling green bean harvesters. They were pretty brand loyal to Oliver and Moline for a while. Seems when you do find them they are in Minnesota, Wisconsin, New York, Maryland or New Jersey. Basically where there were a lot of large scale vegetable growing/canning operations that needed that super slow gear.
My brother had a 1850 diesel that I spent many hours on. It was a real workhorse and had lots of power but it was rough riding as hell and would burn you up on a hot day. It finally spun the rear main crankshaft bearing and my brother traded it off for a new 4020 John Deere diesel and never looked back.
Great video. My farm has a gasoline 1655 that we use on a mower and other smaller jobs. We love 'ol Ollie.
Very nice mowing team.
It is always very nice to see an oliver out in the field😁👍 thanks for the video👍👍
OLIVER made some great long lasting tractors.
The front cast grill and counterweights look like they've been repainted, but the rest of the tractor looks original and unrestored. Even the rear tires are really old but still look great. (Are those Goodyear dyna-torque bias-ply tires in the inside?). Even still has the required AM radio mounted on the fender. The chisel plow is in equally awesome shape. If the video quality wasn't so awesome, you could have told us that this was a movie taken in the mid-1970's. I really enjoyed seeing this. Thanks!
I am not sure on the tires. It was a great opportunity to be able to feature a period matching tillage team like this. The 466 chisel plow is just awesome to see with the 1850.
You are correct on the paint. The white has been touched up on the grille and weights. The green is original. The chisel plow was painted in the 90s. The Inside rear tires are actually new. They are a bias ply titian tire. The duals are Firestone field and road tires from the 70s most likely.
@@dovervillefarms Man your a good operator. You really have a nice out fit. Hope you've had a blessed year and a better one next year. Merry Christmas Everybody.
That's a good video of a Oliver working
Thank you for watching.
I like the fender radio. You could hear them better on the ground than from the seat. Listened to WLW 700 am from Cincinnati. I usually drove our Oliver 1900 with FWD.
Very cool. The 1900 FWA is a nice tractor.
Alot of Oliver's in use still today in south central PA
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Imagine using a +50 year old tractor when this one was built! It is quite a bit older than the operator!
We have an Oliver 1800 model b. It has a lot of issues. Transmission and hydraulic fluid leaks, gas leaks into the oil, but it starts first try every time.
And don't forget about the purple 1850s although records were not kept on which ones were painted purple. Several clone/tribute tractors are out there to showcase a neat part of Oliver history...........
My grandfather had an 1950 gas . It was a great tractor. Used it for planting and discing.
Very cool. The 1950 has a strong sound with a Detriot.
I inherited a diesel version from my dad who bought it new when he moved to California in the late 60’s. I still use it every year.
Very nice Oliver to keep in the family. Great brand.
@@bigtractorpower would love a video on the Lamborghini C340. Was left one too but I have no information on it at all.
Love your videos Jason, but I think you've mistaken the turbo on this tractor. The 1850 was naturally aspirated. They turbocharged the 354 Perkins for the white 105 producing 105 HP. Oliver's are still some of the best looking tractors produced in my opinion. Keep up the good work..
An Jason is not wrong
Thanks for including Oliver Jason, appreciate it. This comment is correct correct, 1850 D was naturally aspirated 354 Perkins. First time Oliver turbo’d was the 310 in the 1950-T, then later turbo’d the 354 Perkins in the White 2-105.
@@davidmarley9471 no jason is correct
@@shaunault7538 I thought I was right about this and just double checked in my Oliver parts book for the 1850. The only way this tractor had a turbo was either aftermarket or a swap from a White 105. You may be thinking of the 1855 which did have a turbo, but was a different engine with the 310
Its a great video as always, but the 1850 was never turbocharged from the factory.
Great big tractor! Mega LIKE🚜👍😎
Thank you for watching.
does anyone know what the height of the john deere 9570rt back track is.
we had a 66 model with fender tanks - the Perkins was very fuel efficient
Yes sir,just the way we like it,,I myself,sun is good but I prefer snow flying with the heat houser on
Great video…. He might be there for a bit… that’s a big field lol
Thank you for watching.
need more fleetlines on the channel. best olivers
I am a Fleetline fan. Stay tuned for that. I did just post a 10 minute video on a 770 baling hay at czcams.com/video/oVZeu3k-Hbo/video.html
Between my dad and I we have 13 Oliver's that are all capable of putting in a days work. All are older then an 1850 though.
Very cool. You must have Fleetlines, Supers?
@@bigtractorpowerwe have those plus 60's, an oc4 and oc6 crawler and a 550
on top of the wheel
Nice
Thank you for watching.
Hey Jason have you heard of Heritage Iron magazine by Sherry Schaefer? I like reading that about the older high horsepower tractors. I love the channel and all the equipment that you show. When are you doing another video from Garnett Farms? I like those tractors they have.
I wrote articles for Oliver Heritage and Heritage Iron for several years. Great publications. I wrote the history of WFE from 1960-2001 fir Oliver Heritage . There are more Garnett videos on the way.
Really cool for a small tractor to be doing tillage what's even cooler is ya can get them with really nice detailed from SpecCast
In its day the 1850 tractor and 466 chisel plow were a big tillage team. SpecCast has done a great job on 1/64 Oliver.
@@bigtractorpower oh yea great way to collect alot of these cool old tractors with alot of detail if ya don't have alot of room
Great video Jason. Dad had a 1650 diesel that I thought was just great!! Really liked using that tractor.
Very nice. Thank you for sharing.
The 1850 Oliver DID NOT HAVE A TURBOCHARGER ON IT…My dad worked for Oliver at a dealership from the time they had the 550,770,880,990 to the time he became a Territory Manager when they introduced the 50 series til the came out with 55 series. The 1855 had a turbocharger on it when they returned to the Waukesha Diesel engine that they used in the 1950, but they ran into trouble with oiling issues(due to the fact that they failed to put an oil cooler that was still on the 1950-1955 !!
True, the 1855 was turbocharged but lacked the 1955's oil cooling capacity.
Good video.
Thank you for watching.
I used to help a farmer put up hay and straw some 30 years ago he never let anyone touch his Oliver he let us use the white
Oliver was a great brand. It is a shame it was retired.
Good work 👍
Oliver was a great tractor brand.
I assume the dual rear tires like this tractor has on it was also an optional accessory as well?
They are but the price guide does not list their cost.
@@bigtractorpower Ah, that’s interesting
A lot of us in the cities are interested in knowing more about farming.
That is good to hear. There is allot happening in farming.
I could do with that gas powered version right now here in Canada, farm diesel is just under $2 ltr cdn versus farm gas is $1.37 ltr
The gas tends to drink up allot more fuel. I was surprised by the slight price difference between the gas and diesel. .
@@bigtractorpower yeah our fuel budget in 2022 is up 100% on 2019
my dad had a 1655 oliver gas and 1755 oliver gas. my dad bought 1655 new for 7400.00 1755 was from a salvage yard. gave us grief.
Sees Oliver tractor... Gives thumbs up!
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THANK YOU ,FOR GREAT SOUND AND VIDEO...... I LOVE YOUR PLACE ..........🙏👍✌😇 🤎💚💙 💜💜💜
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What year did White purchase Oliver?
In 1960. The last Oliver built was a 2255 built in February 1976.
A very well maintained tractor for it’s age, clean and tidy. I only wish the young man driving it was wearing ear muffs, without them he’s doing his hearing terrible damage, by the time he’s my age he’ll be as deaf as a post. Regards from Down Under.
The 1950 Detriot powered model will absolutely take the operators hearing with out doubt.
Don't worry. Earplugs were definitely being worn.
@@dovervillefarms 👍
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This is very good video and fantastic history machine but this is not chisel plow. This is cultivator because work 15cm deep. PS: European logic (Czech Republic)
Thank you for watching. A cultivator here is a finishing tool that typically works 2-3 inches deep and leaves the seed bed ready to plant. The 466 chisel plow twist and twists and furrows the soil to bury residue. The field after the 466 is too rough to plant.
@@bigtractorpower First I really appreciate your work and I like tractors in USA. For information in czech Rep. this is technology czcams.com/video/PTZ1y935Djw/video.html and czcams.com/video/ksw1_7mLVjk/video.html
1850 was not turbo charged from the factory. Also there were 9 models in the 50 series. 1250,1250-A 1450,1550, 1650, 1750, 1850, 1950, 1950-T, 2050, 2150. They had horsepower ratings of 42hp through 131hp.
To me the 50 series gets complicated. You have the smaller Fiat built utility tractor ties. The 2150 and 2050 were not introduced until 1967 and I would put them in a class by themselves as a large frame model and chose not to list them with the 1850 this time. The 2050 and 2150 are on my top 10 tractors to film wish list. They are hard to find. Then you have the 1950-T introduced in 1967 and replacing the 1950. I chose to highlight the 1550-1950 because they were produced with the 1850.
@@bigtractorpower I got ya. We had a 2050 and a 2150 on the farm. For its day a 2150 was a horse. We used to pull chisel plow and a 3500 gallon manure tanker with it. It toyed with that tanker. 2150's are starting to show up here in Southeast/ Northeast Ohio as collector tractors.
N yes it was my neighbor owns one
I use a 1750 1755,and 1800 all diesel in small hay production. Great tractors.
The 354 Perkins in the 1850 was not turbocharged
Unfortunately out of habit I said turbo charged by mistake. I did not catch it.
Not a turbo Perkins diesel. Natural Aspiration.
Die Einebnung kann man sich hier aber auch sparen, das passiert ja nicht viel.
i dive a oliver 66 it will run the rake and wood splitter
Very nice. The Fleet Line Olivers are great tractors.
@@bigtractorpower its the smallest tractor we have
No turbo on1850
I mistakenly said turbo and did not hear myself say it in the specs.
I still prefer to be sitting directly over or behind the rear axle. I know the moved seats forward for smoother ride. But I don’t think the ride is much better and my neck and back won’t turn like it used to.
How are you
Doing well. Thank you for watching.
@@bigtractorpower good 👍
Nice old classic, but what ruins them for me as far as looks go…why did Oliver stick that front axle out so far?? It dates the tractor to look like the industry standard from the 1950’s. It would look so much better if they had tucked the front axle in under the front end better, IMO.
My guess is for weight balance. I've seen the front-end come off the ground when using a disc on a 2wd tractor. Scared the crap outta me as a kid. Front-end weights weren't used on grandads tractors. The 4wd models had enough weight with that heavy axle up front.
@@mikewithers299 that’s a good point
@@mikewithers299 From first hand experience I can tell you it also provides for a smoother ride and more room for front mounted implements that were still in use at the time.
He's working on bean stobble not corn stocks
That is corn stalks. They were disked down ahead of the chisel in this video czcams.com/video/0wKuCKXqYr0/video.html
Ok sorry it looked like bean stobble in this video i wrong Mike.
Looks like a corn field to me. The corn has either been chopped for silage or the stalks bailed and hauled off after the grain was harvested.
it was a great video i love videos about the great muscle tractors of the 60's,70's and early 80's
It was a corn field that was stalk chopped in the fall.
1850 diesel wasn’t turbo. 1855 was.
Yes I messed that up unfortunately
Implement needs to be twice the width, the duels are compressing soil thats been cultivated on each pass, basically wasting fuel & time.
Chisel plowing bogs a tractor big time. It’s like towing an anchor. The 455 at 9 shanks is well matched to the 1850. In the 1960’s dual tires started becoming common place on higher horse power row crop tractors to increase flotation, traction and reduce compaction. The duals will compact less than singles and the chisel is breaking up the tractors imprint.
@@bigtractorpower OK, thanks.
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Growing up on our farms we had two 77s 1650 1800 1855 1955 wished I still had the 1650 my grandfather bought it brand new in 1967
The very best FACT
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