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I def always enjoy Floor & Henk more ,it just feels more traditional while also being different but so clear & crisp
Floor Jansen , Pigeonholing 🐦 ft. Henk Poort - FLOOR FINDS #5 czcams.com/video/tnvsp8RDiCk/video.html 12 min 27 sec , about narrow minded music business .
Floor Jansen , first band labeled as something it was not and Henk Poort , considered not able to sing opera anymore after he did his first musical 1991 .
Henk Poort Fully Trained Baritone Opera Singer
Nightwish reactors... come for the ladies, stay for the Marko.
ROFL!!! I am NEW to NW and already a converted NW Army member and outside the music Floor WON me, THEN, THEN Marko sang and WOW!!! I do a React channel under another name and those followers MUST be sick of myself saying how much I LOVE Marko AND Floor and more so together! I'm NOT pleased I saw Marko is leaving the band for a while.... NO!
@@brucenadeau5920 Never did he say "for a while". He quit, gone, done for.
Thats the real sad part. Honestly can't see them recovering as nightwish, they are going to be a different band now.
@@aenorist2431 Marko is my 8yrs olds hero right now, the Viking warrior in his eyes and without Marko imo, yes NW will NOT be the same. Switching from Tarja to Anette was already a hard more, than to Floor a saving grace, I do NOT see that going well trying to replace Marko IF he doesn't come back.
@@brucenadeau5920 Are you an Epica fan, or not yet? :))
I started with Nightwish too, some 15 years ago. Nightwish is awesome, but Epica f*ckin blew my mind.
Pretty much so. And now he's not there anymore. I actually cried when I heard. The greatness of this band truly lies in the dynamic energy between its members. And one of the most vibrant members is gone from the band.
Tarja: *singing notes, only dogs can hear
Marko:,,wait I almost got you!”
I demand the complete End of an Era concert!
I second this. I'm sorry. Floor is good. But Tarja is a goddess. She deserves more recognition for what she did for Nightwish.
@@xMRxZEROx And Classically trained singers in rock/symphonic metal as a whole.
@@kimberlyh.1090 Exactly. It makes me sad every time I see a reaction to a song where there's an available version by Tarja. I know Floor is the current singer. But come on. Show her some respect.
@@xMRxZEROx Most CZcamsrs are view whores, and most people only want the new, flashy, thing. Not the classic, tasteful thing.
@@kimberlyh.1090 Valid point. Kinda like how there's a crap ton of my God, Devin Townsend playing Kingdom on EMGtv all over CZcams. But not as much of his other stuff. But most of the people who actually have some brains end up really being impressed and check out more of his work.
4 very talented singers, each one so unique. 🎶
She was in survival mode because she had a flu and throat infection during this show. She couldn't speak during morning rehearsals
didn't annet have the same excuse?...sorry but Tarja's attidude was egocentric before her cold
@@jeffenwaldomyspanishadopti9283. If i remember right, Annette was sick in the hospital. Also i wouldn't go with what Tuomas and the rest of the band said about Tarja, considering the things they've said have been very counter to what anyone who's ever worked with Tarja has said. and they lied about Annette's departure from the band and later admitted to that at least.
There's always two sides to the story and actions speak louder than words.
you are correct in that...there are more sides to the story..however...the band didn't just fired them over a throat infection...both had problems with the band allready..Tarja didn't even show up on rehearsals and Annet wasn't a happy chook eather... tension was building up... and them being fired was a result of much more than their throat infections.Floor is more adaptable to the band..it's a pitty that Marco left now due to covid..and the music industry by it self that doesn't reward musicians
But both Tarja and Annette ...you could see it coming...not because thy where bad singers..but the click was missing evetntually with the band...Floor does an awsome job there
@@jeffenwaldomyspanishadopti9283 It's a lie baby! She was too demaged in the that band!
@@jeffenwaldomyspanishadopti9283 Read the book man, Empu's book. It's all in there and nothing like you think at all. Stop spreading the internet parrot rumor mill ya?
I love the contrast of the voices of Tarja and Marko! they were a fantastic duo. I recommend slaying the dreamer, another song from them in this concert. Tarja has a fabulous voice and in her solo career she knows how to be more varied. Tarja also sang ghost love Score on that show and many more songs! I need more reactions with her haha. Floor did a great job too but I like Tarja's powerful, dark and deep voice better. That's why I like the old NW, it was more symphonic metal but everyone has their preferences and is respectable. Thank you!! 🇦🇷
Slaying the dreamer from End of an Era is SO GOOD
I agree!!
@@sarahweis1703 Exactly. There are a number of problems with Tarja.
A. her impressive high notes notwithstanding her performances never feel balanced: there are to many off pitch notes (not so much in this performance, but more in general), her vowels are often harsh and not pretty ("iiii...)", etc.
B. Tarja's timing is not very good. Especially when singing with the more complicated and demanding metal rythms of Nightwish her voice often does not gell: Tarja is rigid and in live performances does often not seem to get her voice to work with the music of Nightwish (I have many examples of that)
Floor on the other hand, has an enormous range like Tarja, but she is not as manic in those high notes, and she has much more control over the whole picture: beautiful fluent vowels, an effortless flow of the song and melding in with the music, excellent control over the texture and register she want to use to tell the story of the song, and excellent decisions in how she wants to use those. And what really makes Floor better is that she always makes the effort to actually feel the song and what it is about. There is simply much more emotion in Floors voice.
Tarja on the other hand always gives the feeling that she only wants to show off those high notes, while she could not care less about the rest of the song.
@@sarahweis1703 where I find her style, singing and presence leaves me flat. But then again that is my preference and I'm not going to say anyone has to feel as I do or agree with me. If Floor is what you want, you got it.
But my taste is for Tarja. Hank does a great suave performance but can he match menace that Marko brings, also can he hit the high notes that Marko did? I am going to have to vote Floor & Hank off the island. 😅😁
@@rientsdijkstra4266Floor can not do it all. She has problems with old tarja Songs because they are out of her range and Sound not good with her
Marko is and will always be a fucking LEGEND!
Floor's sister did an interview on a Dutch TV show where she talked about 8-year-old Floor running around the house singing Phantom in pigtails with a poster of Henk in her room.
That's adorable!
11 years old... :-)
If you want to see Marco at his best, High Hopes (Pink Floyd Tribute) from this same concert is a must see.
Let's be honest, the Phantom is the bad guy.
Henk's Phantom sounds more like a controlled murderer, the planner, ice cold, adding the edge when he get's excited.
Marko's Phantom is deranged with a veneer of "normal human".
I absolutely love both versions and always found the original Phantom to be too slick, too controlled.
In that song he's the angel of music, the seducer. The evil phantom comes after actually
Oh really? Too slick? Too controlled?
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Two versions of the song with Sarah Brightman and both completely different. And I would neither of them consider slick.
Marko is the Mr Hyde to Henk's Dr Jekyl. Two very separate faces of the same Phantom. I don't know which interpretation is better. Happily, I don't have to choose just one of them. Not everything is a competition. Both interpretations have a good reason to exist. The calculating, precise, obsessed musical genius and the disfigured, passionate, powerful monster haunting the opera building. Both are technically correct. The best kind of correct.
Same with the Christines. Floor feels more natural. The youthful new rising starlet with a gift she is only now beginning to fully be able to grasp control of, while Tarja sounds more "classically trained" and controlled. Even in her final outbursts, she still doesn't let passion take control of the instrument. Two very different women being portrayed. Both talented as hell. Personally, I give Floor a slight advantage, as she lets me feel the character a bit more. She doesn't perform the song. She becomes the character. I don't quite feel that with Tarja. She remains Tarja singing Christine's role. Splendidly. But still, her personality shines a bright light directly at the edge of the stage making me painfully aware of the fourth wall, if you know what I mean. When it comes to vocal talent, they are both unmatched and unique. They are both brilliant, but Floor has a slight edge.
To illustrate the difference a bit more, I'll use a different A.L. W. musical piece as performed by two different artists. Memories from Cats. Barbra Streisand does a technically perfect job. Sings every note just right. But it still feels like a song. Recorded in a professional recording studio, by a great singer. But a song. And then, there's the Elaine Paige version from the official DVD recording of the Broadway stage oerformance. When she sings it, you can feel the desperation for another chance of the old cat, once living a perfect life. You can almost feel the matted fur, the bald spots, and the knots and scars on its skin. She doesn't just perform. She paints the character with her voice. Barb makes you nod in appreciation of vocal prowess. Elaine makes you want to pet the poor animal. I hope that makes sense.
@@LongandWeirdName watch dangerous game.. Floor Jansen and Henk Poort.. it is Jekyll and Hyde
Marko and Tarja's performance a different level
Absolutely!👍
That was magic.
I think we all have ears to hear. The rest is taste, fanaticism and prejudice. Peace, good will. and stay safe.
End Of An Era, it's just magical! ❤️🖤
Please react to "Passion and the opera" an old Nightwish song. I think there are no luc
performances with the band, but there are some recordings of Tarja covering it in one of her conocerts as soloist. It is a gorgeous song!
irst off i knew Marco would surprise you second i love that hand off Tuomas does and last one of the reasons for Tarja leaving is that Diva like behavor that you picked up. she also had the flue or some other upper respitory illness so the fact that she can sing so well even when she is sick is amazing this was truely the End of an Era this is Tarja's last time on stage with Night wish
That was indeed a perfect moment that never gets old with repeated viewings.
Tarja has never held an attitude. That is the cry of the bully who has abused her good nature when they finally stand up for themselves.
Awesome job on the D5 Charlie! Sounded wonderful. Great job keeping the two legions of fans from comparing these great performances. Loved it my friend. Peace. 😊🎶🎶🎶🤘☝✌
Yes yes yes, that's the point. Hooked them in with inflammatory concepts and then quell the savage crowds
@@BigBrainSinger Well done my friend!
I always miss the stream. Thanks for putting them on CZcams
I love when reactors notice my boy Marco. He's a stud haha
Man Sonata Arctica....It's rare I hear them mentioned anywhere but it always brings a smile when I do. 😊
I still have no idea why people have to have competition as fans of singers. Tarja is awesome (I honestly think her singing has gotten better as she’s gotten older and using different vocal types/techniques). Floor is awesome (also as she’s grown in age and vocal maturity has gotten better). They are both unbelievable singers. Leave it at that. I’m a guitar guy...I don’t compare EVH or Steve Vai with SRV or Clapton. They are all great in their own uniqueness. You can’t say who’s “better” there is no better or worse...they are different. Same with Tarja and Floor - completely different voices but both great. My brain resonates more with Floor’s voice same as I like the way SRV plays blues more than Clapton or BB King. And EVH is my rock guy (but I also love Vai and Malmsteen and Slash and Petrucci). My point: enjoy them both for who they are and their voices and stop comparing them like fanboy/girl trolls. Also, Marko rules 🤘
Who made it a competition?
@@BigBrainSinger wasn’t towards you...to the commenters below arguing over stuff. I know you appreciate the talent of all these singers. Sorry if you thought was directed at you.
In case of Floor i can say she is the best because she can do anything, from growling to pop/metal/rock to opera. She is perfection for Nightwish.
Floor is not just different, she is way more versatile than 99,9999% of all singers on the planet.
@@Harolddespui Not really. Versatility doesn't always mean better.
@@nicholew350 Sure, if you love hearing the same style of voice in each and every song. Personally i love how Floor can go from growling to rock to metal to opera in even one song. Can't get enough of that when she mixes things up.
The most badass thing for me during the nightwish performance is the "WALRIGHT!" that Marko shouts right at the end. Not because it's high, but because it's perfectly placed in the silence, and most of all, fucking metal
Makes me smile every time
You can see how tough this concert was for the band when Tuomas nearly loses it at the start of "Ever Dream".
Borrowing her grace for the last time.
Floor's face when Henk surprises her with the growl he learned how to do specifically as a tribute to her and the Nightwish arrangement they used. Positively giddy 😊
Marko so Gritty and powerful and while playing base.
Very much agree, those performances are very different and both great...
The real takeaway from all of this is clearly that Marko is a hecking boss! Real shame for all of us that he had enough and wanted out...
Tarja sounds more haunting with the high notes 😄 I love both versions though
She has a load of power, but it's under control. I love how thoughtful and humble she is.
One thing you should know about this concert, it was the last song and Tarja had the flu and could still sing like this....
Mmmm then maybe that is why Tarja is struggling with breathing. You can actually see it, and she even breaks to breath. Her breathing also feels heavy at the end which it shouldn't. However, if she had the flu that is where it would get reflected.
@@dalia1598 Nee hoor, van Floor.
Last song of the concert was Wish I Had an Angel.
Both versions are great loved youre reaction and explaining the technicks, Henk played the Phantom for 3 years in theaters in holland, so he nows tge part😀 the distortion he used, he learned from floor in 2 hours before the recording, thanks again, stay save and keep enyoing music
Actually Henk was taught earlier, in 2 hours, to sing with distortion by his own vocal coach. He wanted to learn this to perform " the sound of silence " from Disturbed, for Floor.
On her episode of " beste zangers 2019. "
He than used the distortion while singing the Phantom of the Opera, as a surprise to her.
He told so himself, in an interview. At the general rehearsal he didn't use it yet.
Tarja sings an Eb6, the high note.
Marko y Tarja !!!!
I dug up a live performance on Dutch TV of Henk and Joke de Kruijf from 1993, and Henk's voice is pretty much as it is here.
Yes! I love them! Joke's voice floats so effortlessly through her passagi throughout the whole score. Beautiful. And their acting on the soundtrack is really some of the best.
Marko rocks for sure. Two different versions, both awesome. NW version is clearly heavier and metallic. Love them both. Kiitos!
Funniest part to me is that, while boys and girls till today arguing who's better, Floor or Tarja, those two AMAZING ladies are friends in real life, and probably cannot be bothered more 🤣🤦♀️ In my own opinion, Tarja owns this, her opera voice sounds more natural and powerful, probably it has to do with lengty classical training. Floor, as far as I know had classical training as well, but only 1 year. But when in comes to other techniques, Floor.. hands down. I adore them both ❤
I agree! While Floor is fantastic, Tarja just seems more at home in a song like this one..Floor comes off somewhat unnatural, which is too bad, because she is really great at what she does. To me, sadly, Phantom Of The Opera is not in her ballpark
I agreed I love them both but hearing Tarja sing in a closed stadium songs like this one will always blow you away. Her voice is so strong and I am pretty sure the mic is just an accessory
It has been my dream to see Floor and Marko perform Phantom and I had thought it was impossible until beste zangers. But then the 1/12/21 came with Marko's resignation. Hope one day when he's back, maybe he'll be invited to a show and they decide to perform it 🥰🥰🥰
You really should listen to "High Hopes" (Pink Floyd Cover) from that same show of Nightwish. Just the boys, without Tarja (costume change), and Marco performes so great.
In that song, he gets me emotionally, like Floor normally does. Fantastic!!!!!!!
I prefer David Gilmour performing that song. ;-)
@@Nikioko Really? The Nightwish-version, including the vocals, has so much more oompf to it.
who is better? Floor or Tarja?
I have the answer: Marko
marco!!! should marco sing with floor!
Tarja forever
I agree!
Tarja
Tarja is good... but Floor is the better one of them two... More dynamics, better range, better abillity to ad different colors in the story etc etc etc.. Tarja is basiclly just screaming...
Stunning piece, stunning deliveries although so different. Ah, the magical, mysterious, magnificence that is music.
Please do Nightwish - High Hopes (pink floyd cover)
When this was recorded it was a heavy rain so the tent was near to collapse and leaked water all over but they just ignored it and did their job.
You can actually see the water from the thunderstorm dripping, next to Floor. And also next to Henk, while they are singing.
I tried to love Floor but no .. she doesn't bring the level that Tarja !! Tarja has such a unique tone, she sings so beautifully and I don’t feel that in Floor!
Tarja is trained to sing the both registers with support, not to strugle. From the other hand, Floor, she is very week, she is not supporting the head voice, she sounds holow.
The ending of the one with Tarja always gets me. Such an amazing performance.
Bleib bei der Tarja-Ära.....Wacker... Deine Meinung von vor Jahren ist nicht mehr relevant..
Wahnsinniges Gejammer Hahaha
@@sarahweis1703 who's whining? Ali simply voiced appreciation. Pretty ridiculous that Floor's fans have a nasty habit of completely dissing her friend.
@@sarahweis1703Wer pop mag hört Floor ...
And yes, it is a D6, the same note that Tarja sang with Marko. Sarah Brightman had to sing an E6 (originally a G6, but she couldn't get that reliably, so Andrew Lloyd Webber changed it).
Floor's note is a D6 indeed but Tarja's note is an Eb6, I just checked it now in my piano. Doens't mean its better or worse, it is simply Not the same note!
Cheers \m/ \m/
@@soundslikeblue Of course not. Placido Domingo could sing the C5, Lugiano Pavarotti couldn't. Wouldn't say that Pavarotti was the worse singer. ;-)
@@Nikioko Being an Opera fan for many years, If I had to choose I would actually prefer Placido Domingo, who actually had a more diversified career inside Opera than Pavarotti had (of course in certain roles such as Tonio, Pavarotti would excell, but its just normal that each singer has his most suited parts), as well as Domingo had a bigger voice who could easily sing above a huge orchestra in many wagnerian roles (Pavarotti's voice hadn't enough stamina for Wagner, there's no microphones on real Opera) and inspite of the natural aging of the voice Domingo still goes on, adapting to newer roles in recent years and even exploring a lower range with brilliance! However Pavarotti who was amazing too, knew better how to make it mainstream also, specially when is voice was getting already out of prime from the 90's on, it was a wise move, even commercially, but what I mean is: never think that Domingo is Less than Pavarotti inside the Opera world, because it is the other way around! And on the older generations there were other tenors as great as Pavarotti (Bjorling, Corelli, del Monaco, etc... and Pavarotti knew it!).
At the end of the day I prefer Not to choose and have them Both, and I actually have many Opera recordings with Both, Simple! Thanks for replying anyway! Cheers!
Tarja sang an Eb6.
Elizabeth pegged her at least an E#. G is possible. There is a 26 minute video of every note in her range through her single career. Kitos does mean thank you. You should know she had a cold and could not sing during her reversal for the show. Tarja IS a trooper. Finishing a long world tour with the biggest show they have ever done at home in Finland. They were welcomed home by the fans as national heroes. You can imagine the uproar when.the band posted the Dear Tarja letter online that they told her she should wait till tomorrow to open. Motivations we can only Guess's at. I might hope part of it was after.the high of the concert and the tour they at least wanted to let her enjoy the night. But as she said in her interview a few days later. She was crying tears of joy after that show. Her pain and efforts with the showmanship had paid off. Hearing the crowd so into the performance. Singing along with her. What artist would not love that feedback. There is no drug quite like the stage. It was Charles Dickens who compared it to the opium pipe. What is it that drew Ozzy Osbourne out of drugs and alcohol, performing on stage. The audience feedback. Of course withdrawl is a real thing. Concerts end. Tours end. Then you are home in the quiet and everything you left there is back. If you don't have a balance at home...trouble follows. That is why I am so glad she has a family. Husband and child to keep her grounded. Friends no doubt. Then when recharged she can throw herself into creative projects. Like her book. Like concerts. I would have to agree with everything that has happened in the world especially 2020, that if ever there was a quite time to reflect and put pen to paper about your life and why it is you do what you do, this is it. Could not tour so this seems a good project. Time with family no bad thing either. Now yes book is done, she is writing and recording new music. Busy busy diva, at her home in Spain.
The version of Nightwish with Tarja is my favorite. The power that Tarja's operatic voice has is incredible. Floor has a powerful belting, but a soft operatic voice. For The phantom of the Opera, Tarja's voice impresses me much more.
No i not agree with you, sorry
@@ralfmeyer9086 It is important to differentiate what is personal taste and what is fact. It is a fact that Tarja has a powerful operatic voice and Floor has a soft operatic voice. This is not a matter of opinion, it is clear and has to do with the vocal characteristics of each singer. It is a personal taste to prefer that Cristine, the character played by Tarja and Floor in this song, have a soft or powerful operatic voice. According to my personal taste, I prefer a powerful operatic voice in this song. I think a powerful operatic voice is better suited to this song, since Cristine is a solo opera singer, and at the end of this song the idea is that she sing with all the power of a great diva. You can prefer a Cristine in a more delicate voice, this is your personal taste and there is no problem with that. However, in fact, Floor does not have an operatic voice as powerful as Tarja. Floor's power lies in her belting technique. I say that because I know Floor's work well. I've been following her since After Forever. This does not mean that one is better than the other. Each of them has different voices and made different vocal study options.
I prefer Tarja's as well. Floor's is pretty and I respect her skill, but I'd never return to listen to it because the overall sound isn't nearly as captivating. This song is just PERFECT for Tarja's vocal quality in general, there is nothing Floor could do to best her in this song just like I'm sure there is a song Tarja can't best Floor in.
@@ralfmeyer9086 your english is as horrible as floor's limited voice
I actually find the Nightwish rendition to be more chaotic more difficult to connect to. The pacing the note the tone of Tarja's arrangement to be less pleasant, like its pushing note to push note. Tarja never had me have chills even if she is an amazing singers. Floor gave me chills so many times I dont understand but there is something much more appealing to me to the tone and delivery Floor has in general.
It's great to know Floor and Tarja are really good friends in really life.
We should avoid 'comparising comparisons by three million coaches on YT, between the two ladies or between Marko and Henk'... People usually tend to value one's qualities above the other...while 'all' of these high-quality singers ánd individuals, are extremely talented...each one of them on their own playgrounds! Love your upload, Sir! And, ofcourse, warm greetz from Those Netherlands!
Completely agree. That's what I try to get at by putting these next to each other. No hard comparison, just listening to 4 different artists make different choices with the same music. No hierarchy involved. Thanks for your insightful comment 👍
@@BigBrainSinger Thank YOU! My love for Nightwish, only since one year or so, brought me to your place, somewhere on the web and your presentations, fed by warm charism, bring joy to the world, friend ;-}
A good thing about such comparisons is that some people realize that there are also othe people who can sing beside their star. And if it's intriguing them to find out more about that person they didn't know so far to widen their horizon, it served a good purpose.
i do find this comparisons kinda dumb.. i do prefer marko and tarja, i admit..but that`s because i m into metal more than into classical, those brutal, powerful songs, growls, screams calm me down, i enjoy them more than words.. but i know it`s a me thing, subjective to what i feel.
I find comparing something you feel stupid.. because it is what you feel. Your on view of that feel.
First time she sang in this show she was singing Vilja Lied to Henk and hardly any of the other singers had even heard of her so they were stunned.
Only the rock community knows her
Liking what you do. Thanks for all the knowledge you share
I was working on the tour.. last concert as you have is from hartwall arena.... It was the last gig for Tarja and even we roudies and tecnishins knew it about 10-12 days before this... back in the days... we had 2days gig one of.... soo not a rommantic staff tour.... but we are still living.... well good bless Martin... he seen down on os from the clowdes hes on..
Kiitos to you. ❤😷
Well you honor me BBS by reinforcing your covering Floor. Interestingly enough, we'll at least to me, this was my first time performance of floor having fun. Followed that with her small solo version of Shallow and a couple other performances that left them in tears. But excuse me if I repeat the wonderful and unique Diana Ankudinova (ankoo deen a va Emphasis on deen). Enjoyed!
THE BEST: TARJA TURUNEN!
CHILLS ME, SO MUCH EMOTION IN THE VOICE OF THIS GREAT TALENTED WOMAN! 🔝🔝🔝❤️❤️❤️👏👏👏👏👏😭
hahaha..
A very high never doesn't always have to sound nice... Tarja just screams in that song....
Floor is much more versatile with much better facial expressions... With Tarja everything is boring...
KIITOS!!!
Tattis!
You need to do more Tarja stuff, specially from her solo career.
Also do more Poets of the fall ;)
Tarja + Marko 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
I get the feeling Marco gave it that extra so Tarja would have the performance of her life this night. If it was a favor or his inner angst is hard to know.
For your information: Marco was the most insistent of letting Tarja go. He stated: "It is her or me, that is going out."
It is very fine, that he does not allow it to spill in to this performance. True professionalism for the audience's sake - despite of all.
Haha i loved that comment from one guy in the stream chat that said "Queen to D6. Checkmate" that summed that up alright hahaha
Marko is just Awesome :) :) :)
Hey Big B... My comment when watching this was look how they interacted so well, and LOOK at Henk enjoying Floor's performance! Floor's facial and head jesturs are perfectly timed and Henk DOES take notice, I watched it again 3 times after Reacting to it and LOVED watching him watching her!
Yes. Amazing interaction. Henk is a real pro stage actor and she feeds off that energy so nicely
Marco+Tarja= Pure magic :)
Tarja & Marko wins this one big time!
I started off as a Floor fan, BUT NOT ANYMORE, now that ive actually heard TARJA!!!! OMG!!!!! WOW!!!!!😦😮😮😀👍👍👍
We can love both. But yeah, Tarja's world class.
Nightwish Phantom of the Opera. Tarja & Marko..Could you react to Nightwish Creck Marys Blood End Of An Era.
Always and ofcourse tarja & marko!!!
Kiitos = thank you 👌
FIIIINE I'll subscribe, just cause you asked so nicely.
😍😍😍
Nightwish on Hellfest 2022 Epic Show !!!!
It has always been: came for "tarja/annette/floor, but i'll stay for marko
Marco enters a screaming competition with a opera singing.
Marco is the Phantom.
Greetings from Finland 😀🙃😀😷👌🤘🤟❤
haha, people don't care that the two women are different , so why would they care that Henk and Marko are different? People love contests and fights, lol.
Yeah, definitely seems that way. Chat was going OFF about it...
Some people do care about Tarja and Floor being different/one is better. Not sure why honestly, but if you wait around and read some comments, you'll see exactly what I'm talking about 😂 always good to see you here, Rosannasfriend
It's a sexist thing, men never get compared in the same way women do. They always have to deliver 200 % more and always get the blame for any friction or tensity. Check out the new Britney Spears documentary - the part were everybody was pitying Justin but hating on Britney after their break up is just wack crazy, just like he too wrote songs about the break-up to shame Britney, as did Tuomas to Tarja.
@@BigBrainSinger that's exactly why I don't read comments under Nighteish videos anymore 😬
Kiitos = Thank u
I see you have one of those left-handed pianos
Programs like this makes me proud to be Dutch and having this kinds of programs making people feeling happy around the world.
Finally see you react to this. Love you♡
There is Tarya and the others ... incredible this singer.
She will always remain the true singer of Nghtwish.
Awesome. This is like someone went through a nasty divorce, both sides got married again and are happy with their new spouses but 15 years later people still say "she is still his true wife". Ugh.
I love Tarja and Marco, the best duet!!!
Hahaha..
@@sarahweis1703floor Fan?
Fire well played without burn yourself. Apart from that, Marko is just unreal.
Always prefered Tarja's Nightwish, but Floor is amazing as well. Tarja was my Nightwish "first"...so....
MARKO and TARJA. It's more natural for her.
Kiitos blooming great thankyou.
TARJA THE ONE AND ONLY 🇫🇮
In My Metal Community, we had a discussion when Tarja was fired about who could replace her. There was only one singer I could think of that would perfectly fit. That singer was After Forever's lead singer Floor Jansen. It took several years but I was proven Right.
Tarja vs Floor Debate is Mute. They are completely different singers that are at the top of their art form. I was angry when Nightwish Fired Tarja and wasn't a fan of her replacement, to be honest, but my Fellow Tarja fans you cannot deny that Floor fits perfectly with Nightwish. #EndTheDebate lol
Of course Tarja is in "survival mode", she did the most singing. STill killed it!
100%
I'd say if she k illed it, Marco fkin slain it!
I like Floor for many songs, but this one is definitely Tarja. (even in survival mode)
Only problem is that there is a video in CZcams where Floor and Henk do this same song in 2013 in Nederlands. So they have met before and sang together before also.
I seriously doubt it, but willing to see what you have got. They did go on a short tour in the Netherlands just before Covid-19 hit the world and a while after the show they did on the Beste Zangers. I sort of think you mean this performance: czcams.com/video/JmqfhB0RzSU/video.html ... it took place @ 013, maybe that it is what got you wondering about this. 013 is a concert venue in Tilburg, the Netherlands. 013 is also the prefix for phone numbers in Tilburg. Or did you come across other footage?
That was not with Henk, they met for the first time at beste zangers 2019.
Except for the fact that Floor saw him, when she was 11 years old, as the Phantom, in the musical the Phantom of the Opera.
After that she wanted to be a singer herself.
In 2013 she sang it with Joacim Cans . And she also sang it with Russel Allen.
Plenty of respect to Floor, I know she is more skilled as far as being well rounded. However ...
As pretty and well done as her version is, it's not captivating. I don't think I'd ever go on a whim and listen to it again unless I forgot what it sounds like? This just isn't her song by comparison. I'm sure there is a song she can do that Tarja couldn't touch.
But, Tarja owns this. Tarja's version is way more ... there is a confident charisma about even how she performs it and how she looks when the music REALLY hammers down even. She sings it like it was written for her. Her voice has a darkness and grandeur to it like she is untouchable somehow, like she is this queen of pure elegance. Like, it's literally what I expect a grand dark queen in a storybook to sound like without being cheesy and it feels like a fantasy and it takes me somewhere.
Floor just sounds . . . very talented? There are no butterflies, I've never felt the magic. I've never had a Floorgasm. I'm glad Tuomas and everyone can keep working, but I've never cared for her and it's not to spread hate or like anyone is incomparable to Tarja. I enjoyed some songs from Anette. I think Anette had a beautiful vocal tone while she might not be on some vocal skill level they are.
But I think Nightwish became half the band it was when Tarja left. I say this not as a dig, it's just Floor is a massively talented singer. The end. There are plenty of bands with massively talented singers in this genre. Floor singing in Nightwish just sounds like one of those bands with a massively talented singer, maybe more talented than others. Tarja however was not just that, but wasn't like other opera singers. ( I know she isn't an actual opera singer ) ---- Tarja has vocal traits and qualities that you don't hear in other opera singers, but you can hear other people and go maybe " Oh that sounds like a less talented Floor Jansen " ; in this industry I don't think I've heard anyone even relatively semi-famous that sounds like Tarja.
It'd be like taking Stevie Nicks out of Fleetwood Mac in her prime and putting in Hayley Williams from Paramore. Hayley might be a better vocalist, but way more people sound similar to Hayley than they do Stevie Nicks and Stevie Nicks can deliver something uniquely her and unique to Fleetwood Mac that no matter how many notes Hayley could learn to hit, she could never deliver what made the band special in the first place. It'd be a whole new project.
Those butterflies don't say anything about a singer, only about the listener's emotional connection to him/her. Some have it with Tarja, yet there are others who can't hear or feel that. No matter how many times they listen to her, it's just a voice that doesn't speak to them. They may get this feeling with Floor or Anette, though, and for them Nightwish is just a half of the band with Tarja.
No judgement here, as my loyalty lies with Marko and we are both equally screwed now :)
@@siksimiksiFTW I know they don't, it was just part of a statement. But But my point was that as talented as Floor is, she doesn't have what made Nightwish . . . Nightwish.
and now with Marco gone, I'm sure you and I can both agree Nightwish is even . . . LESS Nightwish. It literally sounds like when one or two members of a band go off and start another band or project and say " well we're going to make what we couldn't make with ______ " and it's not that they're less talented, they just don't have THAT thing that was captivating in the first place.
Marco, Tarja and Tuomas were each pioneers in their own right and now with two of them gone the band just isn't special anymore. FOR ME at least.
@@iTeacupPanda Yes, for you. For me too probably. For thousands of new fans it is now better, more special and more Nightwish than ever.
@@siksimiksiFTW Like I said I'm not saying one is better than the other, but it isn't Nightwish anymore. What Nightwish is now, you can prefer it. It's not any better than the original. It's just doesn't have what made it special anymore.
You can't have Fleetwood Mac without Stevie Nicks and Christine McVie. Better singers could've replaced them, or Tarja. But what put them on the map and made them memorable and noteworthy is gone.
Floor just sounds like a heightened better version of other women with comparable voices just without her training. No one sounds like Tarja and that's something noteworthy.
No one sounds like Cher, no one sounds like Tina Turner, no one sounds like, Cyndi Lauper, Annie Lennox,Michel'le, Donna Summer, Ann Wilson, Nina fucking Hagen. Kate, the greatest artist of all time BUSH.
When just the sound of your voice alone becomes synonymous with who you are on a level that people instantly recognize it? No matter what you say? You've achieved greatness and made an imprint on people.
@@iTeacupPanda You keep saying that it isn't Nightwish any more. You can't decide that, only Nightwish can. Essentially this means only Tuomas can. And if you can't hear anything special in Floor's voice, it's your problem, not theirs. Tarja was never Nightwish, she was just the voice of he band, one of the instruments, like Floor is now. She hasn't been the voice of Nightwish for 16 years, yet they are greater now than they ever were with Tarja, and they keep making imprint on people. Just not on you and many other Tarja fans. Nightwish is still Nightwish and will still be Nightwish no matter who their lead singer is or if they are doing an instrumental without a lead singer at all. You can keep repeating it is not so, but this doesn't make it true.
I want to praise Floor and Henk. They really try it...
excuse me the question but how do you get youre voice at the beginning so "dry" ? shure its the mic or an option but could you tell me?
The Floor Tarja arguments are nonsense. Both are virtuoso's, and masters of their craft. Differences in style - but both bring a lot to the table others can only dream to achieve. We all have our personal favorites (Floor for me, because I knew her music before nightwish... and frankly, I like Tarja's music more now she is on her own.) but THEY dont give a cr@p and are great friends... What more is there to say? Floor asked Tarja before accepting the NW temporary gig... I think that speaks volumes. Oh, and Marco is phenomenal.
watch Henk Poort met Sound of Silence so good
Comparing Floor against Tarja: Winner: Marko!
Charlie, dude, nice high D! If I want to go past top C, I've to switch to high rock mode. Lol. Take care 😊
Hahaha thanks my friend. I'm finding that learning about other genre techniques is actually helping a lot to supplement my own performing with classical repertoire. It's been a journey. Always great to see you here :)
@@BigBrainSinger Performing as the Phantom was a dream I had to do, first time in a showcase, and it got me a great classical teacher several years ago. Basically had to unlearn all my bad habits. I'm just having fun now.
Hats off to the band. Song would not be as amazing if the music's quality didn't equal the vocals
Talking about musicals. They asked Tim Akkerman (blond curly hair, on the couch) to play Jesus in Jesus Christ Superstar after this season aired. Not sure if it had anything to do with Beste Zangers, but that's a huge role. Too bad covid fucked it all up.
Last song of the last episode 😎🐱👤👍Floor opened the first of the eight episodes with "Vilja Lied" Alpha and Omega
The other cool thing is that it was raining hard and the tent over the set was starting to leak. You can see some water pouring down in the background. They were afraid it was going to fall down on them. And it added to the gloom and expectation of the song.
Tarja owns this song !
Fan fact: this song was the main reason why she decided to study classical music 🎶
Well, if fact Sarah Brightman owns this song. Andrew Lloyd Webber wrote it for her. ;-)
@@Nikioko I know that, and I'm pretty sure no one would ever have heard her name if not Webber, so .......
@@Nikioko Yes. And now Tarja-Marco own it.
Unfair to compare. It's Marko who wins this for Tarja.