FWD vs AWD Race | MK8 Golf R vs Modified MK7 GTI [The Dream Crusher]
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- čas přidán 5. 12. 2022
- Can a modified Golf GTI beat a MK8 Golf R? Today we find out as we thrash them both with a professional race car driver behind the wheel!
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Love the ending!!! I had a feeling something like this had to happen. Perfect way to wrap up a great mini series.
Can You Please, Stop Doing A VW BLOW JOB... they are Crap, They lied to the World..
This channel, has lost it's integrity... it is just a VW ADD,
Flashback to the S2000 dream! Cool!
I wanna see you take a 2012 Polo GTI Super Turbo for a spin and compare
That plot twist at the end made it all worth it. 👍
Having a professional driver who can whip consistent times and narrate well through a lap is a pretty cool card to have in your back pocket.
I actually thought to my self... wow this guy is absolutely impressive. Should prob take over someone on Top Gear.
Thank you!! So glad you liked it
kinda hard to say it was consistent doing just 1 lap
@@KingTeamRacing Great job, man. Certainly added to the authenticity of the comparison. Hope we get another opportunity to see you on MCM sometime.
@@Nebbia_affaraccimiei I don't mean that these laps are consistent with anything, but that [as a driver in general] he is capable of more consistent laps and getting more out of each car than say Marty and Moog would have been. It makes it slightly more authentic even though this is just a lighthearted comparison.
"The traction control is my right foot" should absolutely be a T-Shirt.
Great video fellas
It's what I told people about cruise control when I drove an old golf.
For TVR owners
For S Chassis lol
My Impreza never had traction control
@@oliverherrick2189 07 or older?
OGs knew that ending was coming lol. Luke was a good addition to the episode. Wouldn't be upset if he was a regular guest.
The second he started talking about not having dreams I knew they were up to this again lol. Honestly the moog warned us from the first minute. Love this channel
As the How Ridiculos blokes would say "How Good"
Stoked you liked my little appearnace!
@@KingTeamRacing loved It bro, you a king✌️
Edit: Didnt know you had a youtube, just Subbed 👍
@@KingTeamRacing You were sick man. Ask for more appearances.
Man his commentary as he's doing his laps is great!
His driving is just as good
Thanks heaps!!! Stoked you dig it!!
Nothing on Dick Johnson at Bathurst back in the day...
yeah i couldn't do that, i'd be too busy concentrating, you can tell it's almost second nature for him.
Luke should come on the channel more often and test your cars, seems like a ripper bloke and good in front of a camera.
Completely agree, commentary while driving was great
Agreed!
Yea I agree, too bad it was just a dream though
Stigs Australien Cousin!!
Stoked you dig it! Maybe I'll be popping up a bit more ;)
The ending is absolutely fucking legendary.
🤣
@@KingTeamRacing Front wheel dr🤢
I'm still laughing the next day 🤣
The entire video is excellent but the last 90 seconds or so just absolutely MADE IT
@@ImBarryScottCSS Truth hurts doesn't it🙄
as a gti owner, ive never been more offended (and entertained)
“GTi: the Honda Civic of today’s p-plater generation”
Don’t bother with a burns unit, just send my man straight to the fucking grave
Could be worse, I own a mk4 gt tdi 🙈
Frontwh🤮
@@archiebf4524 I loved my mk4, sadly had to get rid of her, too many issues and too expensive to fix 'em, GTI mk6 owner now, cant complaint
Mate, I drive a K04 swapped 2002 beetle...could be worse! 😆😅😐
I met Moog last night in the queue for Jacob Collier's gig in Enmore, Sydney. If you don't know his music, check him out... Absolutely mind-blowing.
What also really blew my mind was Moog's absolute kindness and graciousness. Despite two random fans interrupting his conversation, it seemed he had all the time in the world for us. He even invited us to skip the queue to keep chatting with him. We didn't want to intrude on his night but I couldn't believe his offer.
Thank you Moog for making the night even more special. I've loved every video since the driveway days. Kicking myself I didn't get a selfie... I have a few young MCM fans in my class!
-Lewis
You deserve to see them again, that was so awesome! Definitely a good ending to 2022 for ya! Cheers to ya! 👍👍🙂
I had a feeling from the first episode about the GTi that this was a wind up 🤣, very well done lads. Keep up the awesome content!
That guilty smile gave it away right?? haha
@@jkrillz6571 When he started talking about the German purity I lost it 🤣🤣
the s2000 is unironically one of my favorite series on this channel, so disappointed it was just a dream
true, Marty would never unironically buy a Volkswagen, especially not a front wheel drive one with automatic transmission.
Luke is a great addition to the channel. He was a natural in front of the camera and was excellent to hear him dissect the lap in each car.
Stoked you dig it!!!
That ending 🤣 Something told me as soon as Marty bought a GTi that is was a nightmare 🤣
You know a pro driver when they're doing a flying lap whilst also able to do commentary on every turn. Luke makes it look so easy, like it's a bloody walk in the park for him lol.
MCM's dream recording technology is insane!
BEWARE THE MCM AI V6.9 HAS BECOME SENTIENT
I don't usually care for guests but Luke made for exceptional content
This is the car vs car format I've been wishing for on this channel! Please keep bringing him back for future showdowns!
😂😂 that ending! Love MCM
My eyes usually gloss over on the track day videos, but man, this was one for the ages. That driver was fantastic and the ending was hilarious. 👍
They are usually my favorite if they edit it properly. It's hard to capture the joy of driving on a track -- while driving on a track. I took my friends for a few hot laps this summer but I can't drive and tell them what I'm doing at the same time...at least not if I'm going flat out.
No joke this is my favorite series so far. I just sold my MK7 and picked up a M240i because I couldn't find a MK8R. Having regrets because now that I've sold the MK7 GTI I've realized how great of a vehicle it was.
So a 385hp rwd car is less fun than a 300hp fwd car?
@@thoth111 yes.
@@thoth111 My M240I is xDrive I should've noted that. Both tuned the GTI was more fun. The M240i is fast but zero drama. The GTI was a riot on the canyons we have here in California, pushing the tires near the limit and hearing tires screeching. My M240i xDrive was honestly kind of dangerous because it didn't get fun until you pushed to dangerous levels of speed.
@@lunchb0x1986 if you are afraid and likely to bin it, then yes fwd is more fun lol (which is 95% of drivers mind you...)
@@lunchb0x1986 yes
Luke is amazing. I did a V8 experience with him at Eastern Creek years ago. When he did a hot lap with me I asked him to show me what the car could do. The g’s were crazy.
Yep, some people grab the spew bag at the first corner.
does he have a youtube channel?@@wobblysauce
Luke King Racing. just realised Im too stoned i didnt check the description of the video. thanks anyway
Best 4WD channel on CZcams!
Hi guys just like to say enjoy your content been watching for years can't wait for the Japan special this year much love from UK
@mightycarmods , I just saw this on my comments. I checked, and they have been doing it to a few comments. They may be scamming loyal followers. I just thought you guys need to see if you haven't already 👍
That ending is pure gold.
Thank you for this rollercoaster, I have a mk7.5R and my cousins always make GTI jokes. Tbh I was unsure whether this video would help their case or mine... that ending settled things 😂
😂
Make sure to have Luke back once in awhile. He's great and deserves more than two temporary friends
😂
Him talking through every corner, what he did, where he was aiming. Good shit.
I did not expect Luke to be so talkative on his lap. It was pretty awesome. I know I didn't understand everything he said but I feel like, eventually, I might. He really kept up in front of the camera and you should absolutely have him on the show again.
Does Luke commentate on his driving all the time? It seems like fun..I'll give it a go on the way to work in the morning.
Makes you a safer driver. You'll call the hazards as you see them.
@@capnskiddies A fine argument when any passengers become annoyed or perplexed.
Comment needs to be up top of the feed, that was gold!
I wanna see Marty and Moog try and beat Luke's time in their respective cars, that ending was freaking funny AF
That ending was absolutely brilliant, definitely what this little series needed 😂😂 uncle Barry has that GOOD good 😂😂
10/10 series, guys! I greatly enjoyed it!
Great episode!!! You need to get Luke back for more videos for sure. I've never heard a driver communicate so well. Great driver and bloke.
Love the fact you got someone from the TCR series to test the cars, that's awesome and his commentary during the laps was a nice addition also. Keep it up.
Dudes this series has been as entertaining as it gets. I've been a fan and love your channels but this has been a blast.. totally on par with anything that I've seen done by the big ballers like Top Gear. Congrats bros
I feel like you guys have been having more fun with the vids lately, and the quality and creativity is the best it's ever been... really happy to see it for y'all.
Been waiting for this video. Really enjoy the variety of content. Thanks for making my day. Way better than most channels in the U.S.A.
As a GTI owner i felt that ending, but thanks for proving the point with fwd cars 👍
I test drove a 2019 R, then a couple weeks later went and bought a 2019 GTI and I've never regretted the choice. This series has just cemented that :D
Is there much difference other then 4 wheel drive
@Waka Flocka Project turbo is bigger in the R, if you're going to track the car there are more coolers on the R, usually the R is basically a fully loaded car and the GTI can be specified as poverty spec if desired
@@wakaflockaproject the power + AWD is a pretty massive difference. I do live in a snowy climate so for me there is no comparison.
@@damiendegrasse power can easily be attained via a stage 1 map. The engine is very similar that being a 2.0 litre. I suppose it has a bigger turbo and few other bits to match. The price tag is also much larger
I got a 17' R which works great with the AWD in the white stuff and most of the driving I do with it is cruising on the highway or commuting to work is comfortable with power when needed. But I was desperately searching for a GTI and just couldnt find one that suited my preferences for color and a 6MT.
11:30 I KNEW ITTTT It's like the S2000 all over again!
Hahahah front wheel drr*ughhhhhhrrrhhh*
Please make this a shirt!
I had so many flashbacks when he started mentioning the not having dreams and the ending was the cherry on top.
Amazing as always
Pd: rewatched the end of the Evo 9 and when he woke up, back then he was working with supergramps
Ending was just 10 outta 10! Busted a gut for sure!
I know Marty taking the piss, a few episodes ago but I love my golfs/ VW's. been away for the last year travelling around the world. got back to the UK just before Christmas, had a scirocco R in storage and just a few days ago bought a MK 8 golf R ( having owned the MK7.5 before). My dad owned a GTI years ago and had many happy memories with him whilst driving it, now I want to make new memories with my daughter (11yo) when I get the chance to see her ( very stressful personal life reason why I don't see her every day as you can imagine). will be ordering new chopped finger decals soon for it and cannot wait to go on late night drives through the city in my new MK8. followed you guys for years and I love you both, honestly you keep me sane, if it wasn't for the love of cars I would be in a terrible place today so thank you.
That ending was exactly the results I was expecting and was pretty much perfection.
Great episode, punting around the track times awesome, epic ending. GTi's are going to thin on the ground now!
I LOVE this channel :)
Marty and Moog are having fun
Awesome episode boys. Luke explained things so well 👏
Well done lads, this is ‘peak content creation’ at its finest. Many much enjoy
Aw you gotta have Luke as a regular on the show now... he's got no mates!
" Front wheel drooooo🤮" - LoL
The mighty Kangaroo VS Armadillo battle we've all been waiting for!
What an awesome video. Thanks guys!
I really enjoy these in car professional driver videos when they talk about what they do while driving. Great video fellas (all 3 of you)
I can't stop laughing at the end of video 😂 Thanks for made my day happy dude's, you guys are awesome! God cars, good people and good content! Thank you so much! 🤘
That ending was epic!!! 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Y'all are the best 👌... Truly had me on the edge of my seat with that race... AWD prevails!!! thanks guys
The way he so calmly talked us through the laps was awesome!
Class content as always, been watching for many years from the UK, was not expecting that result in the end and what a crazy dream
That was a surprise, I expected the GTI to be a decent bit quicker on track where the awd is more of a weight penalty than grip advantage. Good news for me as a mk8 R owner.
It's definitely a track that will help the GTI more than the R with a driver more inclined to FWD in a single hot lap on a new track where the R was lapped first and the GTI was modified. And still the R came out faster. Driver even said he felt like there was more in the R and didn't say the same of the GTI. This was best case scenario for the GTI.
For what it's worth I did once own a Mk7 GTI and a 7.5 Golf R. The GTI definitely feel more responsive and lighter, due to the lighter drivetrain and smaller turbo, but I find the R much nicer to drive and much more powerful.
Great commentary from Luke.thanks
This was brilliant , absolute 🔥 commentary whilst driving, wouldn’t be mad if he was a regular guest
I'm sure Luke has better stuff to do, but I would love a series of him taking all of the MCM cars round the track and reviewing them from a professional race driver perspective.
A man on a stopwatch can be out by 1/2 a second either way on the start and the stop without proper timing gear I’d call a draw
Great episode, narration during the flying lap by the expert guest was fantastic.
Been watching for over 6 years and this is my favorite episode outside your specials. So good
I would love to see that same driver drive a car of equal capacity, but rear wheel drive. I’m very curious what the time would be
Paying an extra 60k for half a second is such an EJ25 thing 👌 would rate 😂
@@quicktoreason2722 cool story bro
@@quicktoreason2722 that’s a catback, an intake, and a cobb tune. Like $1500 on the high
16:38 I never been so offended at this yet this made me kind of laugh lmao
Good video. As a stg 2 mk7 gti owner I never get tired of these 2 cars being raced
Those laps were Luke King really good
I'm glad it was all a dream. I was worried about all the Golf content being real
Top notch motoring, impressive on having Luke do the business 👏
Thanks for sharing
What a class act Luke is. Love to see what he could do around there with my GTI. It’s done a 52 with my ham fists at the wheel.
After going from fwd to awd I’ve realised how much weight impacts handling and I think I might go back to fwd
🤮
@@ieism1 =awd
Yeah, I think I prefer the PuRiTY of the GTI. I've heard that the R isn't quite as chuckable into a corner, and I'm not too interested in the red light GP either, so the AWD is hard to justify 🤷♂🤷♂
Real men drive RWD :p
Numbers didn't lie......Beyond the badge!
Could not have clicked the notification any faster than a MK8R
I knew this ending was coming since the 2nd episode, just like the s2000 one you guys just go overboard. Incredible stuff 🙌🏻🙌🏻
Awesome video guys 🙌
Here in the 1st minute, been waiting on this episode since Marty bought his GTI.
Or did he? 🧐
@@ktmdukenz I know, right. 🤣
Awesome ending. Classic MCM 😂
What a great personality Luke King has for the video. Rare to find somebody who can drive that hard and speak that well.
Thanks for the useful comparison.
Is there a Love button anywhere for this video, because a thumbs up just won't do it. You guys have taken it to another level this time. ROFLMAO 🤣
Marty was the clear winner , based on price alone.
Loved this lil' series, and that ending!
Nicely done on the ending, and the foreshadowing was perfect!
Also, didn’t realize the R was FWD biased unless there was need for power to the rear. I just had figured it was 50/50 around town, with the ability to send 90% to either end... not sure where I got that idea!
according to the interballs, "in the past, VW used a Haldex AWD system that could send up to (but no more than) half of the engine's torque to the rear wheels, but for the mk8, VW opted for a torque-vectoring rear differential that can send 100 percent of the engine's torque to an individual wheel (via a multiplate clutch)"; maybe Luke should have had the R in drift mode?
Haha, I absolutely nabbed some mad photos of Luke racing in TCR at Sandown a few months ago. Crazy to see him on my favourite 4WD channel. Great stuff
That ending!!! Ahahaha. I hope you two never stop having fun together. Bloody great boys.
Iv watched your vids for years and always still entertained. I love watching you guys
This is the kind of content I subscribe for. Thanks guys!
lol, wtf is going on with Luke’s hair?!?
Love it boys, good job!
Thanks for finally paying off the two previous episodes' winding up. That was.. a lot of fun. :D
Nice to see the dream narrative again. These are things that are cool to see if you’ve been watching the channel for 10 years
Completely lost it with that ending.
Awesome episode guys!
@mightycarmods Brilliant. Sometimes y'all sell the schtick really well, sometimes it just gets an eye roll.
I was expecting the Marty-in-a-VW bit was gonna earn an eye roll. I was wrong.
Moog calling out the snarky eyes was pretty good, but the the bit was cemented as legendary by: "it was front wheel yyyyeeaeaaarrgg"
And @KingTeamRacing was epic. Great commentary while flogging the VAGs, and didn't lock up bantering with you legends.
Thanks guys!
Great comparison and funny way to end the video, thanks boys.
Props getting the pro driver in for this, he's great on the commentary!
The sting at the end had me rolling, g'day Uncle Barry!
great video , half a second diffrence !! loved the ending so funny
Love that ending - Classic MCM. S2K Throwback!
I've gone, kind of the best of both worlds. Mk7.5 alltrack. DSG and 4motion. Slightly heavier wagon sure. I've done some good mods, IE intake, turbo erbow, and intercooler, is20turbo, custom exhaust (res delete, 2.75" pipes to 2.5" pipes at the splitter, stock mufflers with nice tips. Stage 3 ECU tune + TCU. Currently does highish 4sec 0-100s on launch control. With some better/new tyres, we can scrub a bit more off that time, and could takeome extra weight out of the boot if I really wanted some reduction.
Still has flappy paddles, and brakes are the same as the GTI not the R. On the down side it is the 1.8, not a 2L, but it's faster than a stage 1 Golf R even with only an is20. Such a fun platform.
Love this video, and Luke would be a great regular addition. So natural on the camera and amazing commentries, really informative.
Wondered where you were going with the couldn't dream bit at the track. The ending was brilliant 👏 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Front wheel dr...BBBLLLAAARRRGGGHHH!!! Classic. Great show, guys.