Crashing a FISKER Owners Meetup - Didn't Expect This!
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This week we go undercover as Tesla owners to crash a Fisker owner meetup and learn how owners of the Fisker Ocean truly feel about their EVs.
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0:00 - Intro
0:43 - Losing $50k in 6 months
1:10 - That was part of the deal
2:22 - Delete Me
3:17 - Are you worried about the future?
4:23 - Hardware A+...software C-?
4:51 - The impact of reviews
7:33 - owner prefers his Model Y over his Ocean
8:56 - The dirty details
10:37 - Tackling service after Fisker
12:55 - I'll take you on a test drive
16:00 - Constant attention
16:43 - Why not a Tesla?
19:02 - How does the solar work?
20:08 - Green as can be
20:54 - Reality far different than online reviews
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This was me when I bought a zune over an iPod
Edit: they officially filed for bankruptcy
😭
Zune was great!!!
Ha! Me too! I don't use it but I still have mine.
That’s funny! 😂
Zune was the best for cheap!
How I felt when I bought a Sega Saturn instead of a PlayStation😂😂
Sega Saturn? Was that a gaming console?
😂
LOL, this is how I felt when I bought a Atari Jaguar. But was happy when I got a Playstation later.
Virtua Fighter one was the best
Bought it for the Shining Force 3, lol. So, so, so long time ago.....
Fisker didn’t build those cars. They outsourced it to an established factory. That’s why there are no issues with panel gaps, they aren’t a start up manufacturer
facts right there
They’re also building a few thousand. Try that out of the gate with a few hundred thousand.
Great video from a different perspective.
Doesn’t really matter I suppose as the only thing consumers care about is the end result, so good on Fisker for realizing it was better this way
Correct.
I felt like her when a friend bought a mach-e and was bragging about the software. I was just there trying so hard not to look unimpressed or list the many features we have over it.
The honesty of the dude in the orange shirt deserves praise.
Yes, he is about the only one of the Fisker owners I have seen who does not irrationally defend everything about the car.
To be clear, I hope they make it. When I placed my order for model X in 2014 I think tesla was also having it's ups and downs but I had a really strong feeling the product was going to succeed. So I feel I truly understand what these owners are feeling. Many of the interviews seemed to have a healthy attitudes and plan for going forward. This is a big bump in their road and I hope it again all works out. They all seemed to have eyes wide open and are being brave to help build this car. Love the American spirit.
Good luck and I'll see you guys down the road.
I would even go as far as getting an Aptera once they go to market. Its about seeing innovation grow. Looking through the comments, so many think its about competition.
Tesla still having the same downs tho 😂😂😂😂 they are just richer so they can build more bs cars
@@Tetrathegodthey sell them to customers, they build them because people buy them. Simple economics, they aren't building them and then giving them away 😂
Henrik Fisker. Great car designer, horrible/criminal businessman. The car owners are passionate about the product, but they need to admit that they were all ultimately ripped off by Henrik and his wife.
Agree
They got a car they still love to drive - its exactly what they wanted for their money. Other new cars from major brands often aren't perfect as well , in that light this seems to be a surprisingly well made and usable car from the getgo. Despite its little flaws.
....again.
Kim's face when he tried to show how fast the car was 😂😭😂😂😂😂😂 she wanted to tell him that wasn't it, so bad 😂😭😂😂
I SCREAMED...LOL!!!
That was hilarious.
Hope Fisker makes it. We need more EVs and more options for people who are sick and tired of being addicted to oil and paying dearly for that addiction.
Someone should rescue Fisker and at the same time, buy out all of Dyson's R&D and IP to bring about something interesting for the next gen.
In california, electricity is not cheap. My rate is average .40 cents per kwh. At that rate it's not much cheaper than filling up a gas car.
@@tas4092 wow if everyone had the same attitude we be living in caves
Really, no one cares about the addiction. We need cheap EV.
@@matthewspry4217riiiight and in 2006 if you didnt have a prius you hated the environment. While attributing to the increase of smog (release of carbon monoxide that turns into carbon dioxide 2 mo later) and now the new bandwagon of enlightened evironmentalists are lkke if you don't own a ev. You hate the environment. While creating lithium mines/cobalt mines destroying the environment at a faster rate than petroleum ever could while endorsing slave labor. I guess no matter what edevor it's not the American way if someone or something isn't getting f'd. You can act like it's the better alternative but it's still just an act.
I like Fisker, I hope they make it. But I think they look great and I love the idea of solar panels on the roof. It's not a lot of energy but even a small amount of free juice is nice, just for parking in your driveway.
why ? Fisker has no IP.
Solar panels are NOT FREE Juice. They are very expensive and don't supply much juice at all. Spend the money elsewhere.
@@billjackofall - Solar is NOT for Vehicles, get SOLAR on your HOME + powerwall, or ask Apartments/Condos to go SOLAR w/Megapack battery.
@@billjackofall - some NEW homes Come w/ SOLAR & powerwall.
I really hope that Fisker get out of their financial troubles. I think it's a great car and would 100% consider to buy one in the near future.
😂😂😂😂😂
Narrator: but they did not get out of their financial troubles. They took the money and ran...again...
The first $25k EV. Other company talks about it but Fisker delivers.
😂
They might have delivered, but if they are out of business, what good is it. Tesla could sell there cars for $1 if they wnated to go bankrupt.
@@billjackofall you can use the battery for a home storage system. Hahaha 😆
What in delusional land are you talking about? The Fisker Ocean starts at nearly $40,000
😂
I'm a Tesla fan, but I really liked this honest owners interviews and I really hope Fisker will make it. Nice car.
Great comment!
The guy bought a $35M mansion with these chumps money. Don't worry Fisker will be fine.
Thank you interviewees. Good and bad insights from smart, reflective folks :)
I like my FOO 1003, but I totally disagree with the first guest Mike(the role of apologist) that I signed up as a "beta tester". That's total hindsight hogwash. We also didn't get "extras" as early adopters for our $70,000. We paid top dollar but have yet to get what we paid for. It is what it is. Let's see what happens next.
I hope they figure this out. I don't own a Fisker but I still want one. That car is mad beautiful.
😂😂😂😂😂
Interesting comment about more physical buttons. It's something that's heard more and more from EV drivers in relation to the most commonly used basic functions as people are getting tired of having to dive into menus just to find a particular basic function, even with customisable menus. So many drivers find touchscreens a distraction when driving. Being able to simply reach a physical button (without) having to take your eyes off of the road is a major plus for many drivers.
love how passionate these guys are on their car. So good
They are obviously share holders and extremely biased, or its a case of mass formation psychosis.
😂😂😂😂😂
I own a Fisker Ocean One sequence number 1447. I have owned and driven it daily since Nover 8, 2023. I came from owning Jaguar F-Pace, and I had more issues with it in 6 months than I've has with my Fisker. Actually, I have no real issues with my Fisker. I only had the A/C vent replaced due to 1 section of 4 making noise sometimes.
I really love the vehicle. I feel excited and make up excuses to drive it.
It's sad that the company is having a hard time. I plan to keep mine until it can't be fixed, which I doubt.
Real owners know how good the car is. I saw one on the road for the first time and it was really nice looking. No doubt a great design. Solidly built. Its a shame someone reviewed the car too early and damaged a great company trying to produce vehicles to better the industry with cars that have recycled materials and capture energy from the sun! The owners say the car is fantastic. I would definitely buy a Fisker. I hope they are going to continue, its a great American company.
The older guy is sadly hoping and reaching as now stuck on an island with no help coming. Horrible!
No , he’s out driving and enjoying it
Come on be nice. I'm sure his Fisker is a step up from his Rascal scooter.
Yup! I live in Oklahoma and my wife and I are flying from Tulsa to San Diego California on May 6th to pickup a Fisker Ocean Extreme. I bought it knowing Fisker's financial situation. I also know future servicing in Oklahoma may be possible or impossible. I paid $31,750 for it with 600 miles. It's going to be a great video of an adventurous couple traveling to California to pick up a vehicle with an uncertain future and make a two week vacation out of it. What's more adventurous than this?Crazy, huh? Either it will be an amazing vacation or one of the worst ones ever. We are planning on driving it around California and then driving it back to Oklahoma. There will be lots of site seeing and plenty of stopping to charge along the way. I'm excited about it and my wife is excited about it too! This is a once in a lifetime opportunity to experience a beta car and the complete unknowns. We are owners of other EVs. We have a Nissan Leaf, Hyundai Ioniq 5, Hyundai Ioniq 6, Tesla Model S and now a beta car Fisker Ocean Extreme! The Ocean Extreme was purchased to mainly tow our Waverunners all over Oklahoma. With its big battery and excellent range of 360, I should be able to get 250 to 300 miles of real towing miles per charge. This will make a great video. The Fisker company may die but it's Oceans won't be still. Thanks for letting me comment and have a blessed day today!
Very cool! Man, I wish we were closer and could make for a great interview. Safe travels and enjoy.
@@ItsKimJava Ahhh, that would be awesome and super fun if we were able to meet! Stacie my wife is SUPER sweet and adorable 🥰. Everyone loves her who meets her. She is going out of her comfort zone by being adventurous with me ❤️. We would drive out of our way to meet, if you lived anywhere along the route from San Diego to Tulsa Oklahoma. I will be making videos starting from the day we are driving to the airport but not uploading anything. Maybe we could do a virtual meeting afterwards. Let's see how it goes as we make this journey starting Monday next week 👍. Thank you for your response and blessings to you and your family 😊. We enjoy your videos!
Hate to disappoint you. As a FOO owner, I LOVE my car, but 360 charge gets you about 180 -220 real miles. I start with 80% and 285 miles for work. My job is exactly 90 miles round trip. I get home with 147-155 miles of charge when I get home. I can do 2 round trips and a half for the full 285.
What do you think of the Inoniq 5 and 6?
@@stephenpales1615😂😂😂😂😂 fool 😂😂😂😂😂
Its just mind boggling just how many people will root for a product to fail, simply because they use another product, don't want to see competition to their favorite product or the product is out of their price point or comfort zone. The real Fisker community understood what early adaptation was. Yes Fisker still has allot of improvement to do on organizing, servicing and communication. They are a 3/10 in that aspect and that's being generous. I'd give the car an easy 8/10 weighing the joy of driving it 🆚 the current annoyances of the occasional inconvenient software bugs. With smoothed out software and future upgrades...easily a 10/10.
Dude are you still living in 2016
Why didn’t he let you drive it? I would have loved to see and get your impressions.
Thanks for the update Interesting
I feel bad for these guys. I’d be pretty frustrated. Sure, they knew the risks going in, but actually having to experience the worst case scenario can’t be fun.
Brave owners
Brave, yes. But also borderline foolish. Borderline because they didn't know what was to come. Those who buy now would be 100% foolish.
Between Fisker and Vinfast (and Huawei?), I think the Fisker is the most mature one, but doesn't have the mega corporations behind. Maybe they should be bought by a corporation that wants to enter this market... maybe a Chinese one.
The car is manufactured by Magna not Fisker
And so is the ownership for warranty claims. People will have no worries about future service
So are the warranty claims
And GM for most of its life was made by Fischer
@@matthewspry4217that's not true. Magna have no warranty responsibilities
These guys trying to impress Kim when she's been in every ludicrous mode Tesla 😂.
☺️
Lolol too funny
“You ready?”
Grandpa wanted to impress her, who else?
@@BrianCanon Can’t hate on that.
This video makes me want to buy one to be apart of the community ❤️
Buy one, they're on sale!
I don’t believe MKBHD cared about test car or not. Having them give him a perfect car is not representative of the real world experience. He wanted that real world experience and not everyone is wanting to or realizes what goes into being a “beta tester”. They sound a little in denial tbh. If the software sucks, it sucks. It’s something you interact with every minute pretty much and it’s a big deal. Let’s not forget that a lot of the reason it blew up was that “senior tech’s” reaction in that phone call lol
Tesla promoted the video, plus Fisker Ocean was constantly in the media due to stock price movement. Earnings report dropped the stock price, not the video, occurred same weekend.
100% agree.
@2023gainer tesla did nothing of the sort.
Kim and PJ, thanks for letting us share our perspectives. We really want to see the Ocean rise from the fire.
-Travis
I do wish Fisker the best, hope they succeed, although I have a Chevy Volt which I’m really enjoying it.
Fair and balanced update on the current state of all things Fisker Ocean 👏
That’s how I felt when Saturn went under. I had just bout my SUV. Loved it. Had a motor issue like year 3 and got rid of it. Expensive repairs.
One thing that concerns me is the lack of service and parts available. If Fisker can resolve this I would have MUCH LESS anxiety. The 2.0 software has been solid!!
Fooled me once shame on you, fooled me twice, shame on me.
This is such a refreshing view into another EV brand! Fantastic work, Kim & PJ! 👍
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Service is always covered, my ass, by whom, weird people that own this are in denial till the end.
Yeah, had the same thought. Like, where do they think the spare parts will be made?
Magna Steyr
@@bsjtube i am sure they will jump to help you out. Right
@@tonyn3227Exactly. They are just a 3rd Party Manufacturer to this and will have no responsibility once Fisker goes Bankrupt - which will happen before the end of May.
@@bsjtubeexactly. VW might take over service.
Great coverage ❤
Thanks for your great content, Kim.
A lot of good things here. Tesla is now mainstream. ❤
I really hope Fisker pulls out a miracle because it's a great car and I would eventually love to buy one if possible.
If you going to buy the time is now. Cheap
At current prices, especially when they can conver your ocean One order to extreme, so you can get that 5.25K deposit appllied plus 7.5 tax credit, I think its worth it.. waiting to get mine in stealth green !
😂😂😂😂😂
This has been the best car ever! Not only is it Beautiful to look at but the interior is just as amazing. It’s powerful it an awesome ride. These critics are only that critics… ask those who own it to get the best answer. Someone is getting paid for crap on Fisker and truly not allowing anyone but the big companies to survive.
Some of these owners are in a state of denial. I hope that somehow Fisker survives. It is a beautiful frame rolling on poorly supported software.
Has anyone of these owners tried googling Henrik Fiskers history with starting car companies only to have them go bankrupt within a few years? This is the 3rd or 4th time!
I really like the car, but i would NEVER give my money to that man. Even though he is from Denmark just like me
This car is more beautiful and more attractive than Tesla. In my opinion
I love it watching Kim get flirted on by old guys that look like Sandy Monroe
I ask you - would you consider me stupid, a moron, crazy, etc. if, knowing what we know, I chose to buy a $33k new Fisker over a 209 mile range Nissan Ariya at $42k???
Which car did you buy?
Nice, fair, professional video. There are many journalists and youtubers who could learn from you.
Great vehicle with bad software. Hope we can pull through this.
Great video and I love my Fisker Ocean Extreme luxury
Very nice!
Ask anybody that owned a Think City electric vehicle. When the company went under there was no one to help you, you had to get rid of the vehicle for pennies on the dollar. Repairs or parts were impossible to get. It was a disaster.
For that price I'm tempted to buy one and put a 1966 Mustang body on it !!!
Lol
The solar panel is my favorite feature. Fisker could sell solar tesla roof shade accessories and make money. I would love the option to trickle charge while parked outside.
It's got such a big battery and is so inefficient that the solar panel doesn't even cover the phantom drain.
Nice video Kim!
Anyone want to buy my Betamax and tapes? I'm sure they'll be back in vogue. Soon...
Also have some Sony Minidiscs. No panel gaps in either the Beta or Sony player.
13:54 As someone who just bought a used '19 M3LR, I was nervous that I needed an instrument cluster to adjust. I didn't need one. However, I saw the T9 screen from TMA and the front camera and I had to have it. Cost me just under $300 (and was horrible to install) but now I have what's likely a much better screen than he has and it has Android Auto and all sorts of cool stuff. It's not perfect (hopefully gets OTA updates) but he's just flat-out wrong about this point. It's quite cheap/easy to get an instrument cluster in a Model 3 and for cheaper than I did it.
I saw a Fisker Ocen in Dunedin Fl
They should open source them. If they get lower in price, At least 5-10k is good for a hobbyist to get a chasis, battery pack, engine, and solar panel?
Hi Kim, you’re doing a great job and thanks for crashing the Fisker Owners ❤
This was a soldd group of owners you interviewed .they seemed realistic about the shortcomings,but concerned about the companies future, only one guy didn't seem to know a lot of those features are available on other EV's and not exclusive to fisker
I am very close to order a Tesla Model X, very close!
Oh no, go with a Fisker Ocean Extreme with 360 miles of range and the solar roof. It's beautiful 😍😍
Me too I'm up in the air
Looks like a great car, that's why you wait and not be an early adopter. I did the same with Tesla, waited before getting into one (2022 MYLR), now two (2023 M3RWD) big discounts before Highland came out. Doing the same on Cybertruck, will get it when it's the better, final product.
Thing is, someone had to bite the early adopter bullet for even Tesla to be where it is now. It's ok if that's not us, but someone has to.
The dude drinking the daiquiri is my hero. Drive safely youngblood
Ha ha, this is hyper mode😂😂😅Kim, okay.
Love the rationalization from these owners.. They are still in the denial stage
Have you driven it? If yes, what you didn't like?
No I have not driven it. Not sure what that has to do with anything.
@@gregpochet4812 The experience. But the future of Fisker Inc. is completely different story.
That sponsor introduction is funny
Car can cause so much emotion in people. What one person loves another can find ridiculous 😂
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All the FUD was the same when we bought our Model3P in 2019. Friends/family thought I was crazy. Now they’re everywhere. Nothing new with any EV start up.
Exactly!
Except Fisker is going under.
Love the design so hope it works out
Which OEM will partner with or buy the company when it becomes insolvent?
5:05 Yeah, mkbhd wanted a car for review... then Henrik offered him a bribe... you know, the usual.I'd suggest that the dark blue shirt guy buy another to keep as a parts car, because there are no parts available for this monstrosity.
Definitely would for the price. But we don't have a location here in Canada😢
Are you ready?
(Guns it)
Ok ready …
Oh you did it?😂😂
I saw one in the UK once, looked nice. I feel sorry for them, they will probably not get any firmware updates and find getting parts difficult.
I would purchase one, but wait just a little longer and see how this all shakes out. I have known Henrik since 2000, no matter what, he's a designer, not a CEO.
Feels like buddy has his whole life savings in Fisker stock and doing everything he can to keep it afloat.
When you ask for a comparison, INCLUDE the price.
Although they didn’t have gaps in their build they sure had gap in their accounting!
I replied to my own comment:(
Thought these guys were also super fair in their reviews. It wasnt all just sunshine and rainbows, and most of them have owned other EVs so its not like it was their first EV ever
FSRN is listed on the Over-The-Counter Exchange in the U.S. I would expect it will eventually be revealed that Fisker is a look-behind special purpose shell company that is Tata Motors’ entry into the U.S. auto manufacturing business. Tata Motors owns Land Rover in the UK, and has recently signed a deal to construct a £9B battery gigafactory.
Yes, it took Tesla 10 years to get panels right, but they have been industry leading by far on what matters… power train and software. Fisker has now been trying to make cars for many years as well and they do not have these things down.
You probably meant Fisker Karma, about 10 years ago, by Fisker Automotive. The company went bankrupt because its battery supplier went bankrupt, couldn't find replacement. This is a new company, Fisker Inc.
I understand. But all under the leadership of Henrik Fisker, yes? So he is ultimately responsible.
I love the automatic rotating screen.....Tesla's should have this!
they can't, it's patented by fisker
"you want a ride, honey I'll take you " 😂
If Fisker goes out of business, there will be no software updates. I want one, 5:46 but the company’s foundation makes it scary.
Why didn't he let you drive?
Good video
On the 17th of June, Fisker filed for bankruptcy!
I do not know how long Mike has had his car? I have a 6 seater old electric golf cart with 2 residential solar panels on the roof
that I installed 2 weeks ago in central Illinois. So far I have 32kw through the charge controller and half of the time it has been cloudy and rainy. Seems like FISKER has inefficient panels to only have 16kwh total. The Apteria seems like a much better bargain as the solar should produce about 7kwh per day on a sunny day.
He stated it is mostly garage kept.
Buying a Fisker is joining a church. You can hear it here.
Even Fisker website is not really working 🤣 I'm stuck at "preparing your build". Oh well.....
These guys need to keep their cars. It will be the next DeLorean in 20 years
When you bought a trailer instead of a stick built house
Interestingly, Doug Demuro liked the Fisker Ocean when he tried it out.
But sure, whatever is going on with Fisker is enough to freak most people out. People wants stability when they're making a longterm investment like a daily driver car. What good is the car if it leaves you stranded next to the highway and you can't (easily?) get service. I'm sure the Fisker makes a lot more sense as a second fun car, given the situation in the company.
So after the buyers told you about app failure he puts is in auto pilot?
I'm very curious about what that one guy said about the company needing to set aside money to cover people's repairs under warranty when everyone else including the dealer is saying the owner would be on their own
I believe the bankruptcy court will make them cover the warranty periods. But if there are 6 service centers in the country, then you have to get it to one of those places for servicing. So Fisker will have to cover it, but you'll have to get to them. So there will be a fund and warranty, but it will still be dicey. And the dealer is much, much better underselling servicing than overselling it.