Rio On Can Mainoo Become World Class? | What Is Ten Hag’s Style Of Play
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- Manchester United draw with Liverpool meaning Arsenal stay top of the Premier League! Rio Ferdinand on if Kobbie Mainoo can become World Class? What is Man United’s style of play? Rio Ferdinand, Joel Beya & Stephen Howson are back with part 1 of Vibe With FIVE! In this segment, the panel discuss Man United’s 1-1 draw with Liverpool at Old Trafford! Stay tuned to hear them talk about Wan-Bissaka’s tackle on Harvey Elliot for the penalty, Rio’s view on why Casemiro’s flaws are exposed in Man Utd’s system and much more! Don’t forget to like, comment, subscribe and hit that notification bell so you never miss a minute of football coverage, exclusive interviews, and fiery debates this season!
0:00; - Intro
1:06; - Man United 2-2 Liverpool Review
4:01; - Rio on ten Hag’s style of play
7:01; - Ste on ten Hag’s style of play
9:39; - Ste on Bruno Fernandes
10:33; - Kobbie Mainoo’s Goal vs Liverpool
12:14; - Rio and Patrice Evra’s thoughts on Mainoo (Matchday 360 Segment)
14:03; - Where does Mainoo go from here?
16:19; - Kobbie Mainoo being World Class for England
17:22 - Was Wan-Bissaka’s challenge a penalty?
20:57; - Joel on Mo Salah vs Man United and his post match comments
21:57; - Outro
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0:00; - Intro
1:06; - Man United 2-2 Liverpool Review
4:01; - Rio on ten Hag’s style of play
7:01; - Ste on ten Hag’s style of play
9:39; - Ste on Bruno Fernandes
10:33; - Kobbie Mainoo’s Goal vs Liverpool
12:14; - Rio and Patrice Evra’s thoughts on Mainoo (Matchday 360 Segment)
14:03; - Where does Mainoo go from here?
16:19; - Kobbie Mainoo being World Class for England
17:22 - Was Wan-Bissaka’s challenge a penalty?
20:57; - Joel on Mo Salah vs Man United and his post match comments
21:57; - Outro
Some easy fixes for next season from the academy
Lindelof Out - O.Diomande In (Sign)
Maguire Out - Todibo In (Sign)
Evans Out - Kambwala In
Williams Out - Fernandez In
Shaw Out - Amass In
Dalot Out - Frimpong In (Sign)
Erikson Out - J.Fletcher
McTominay Out - J.Neves In (Sign)
Donny Out - Gore In
Sancho Out - Diallo In
Hannibal Out - Scanlon In
Rashford Out - Greenwood In
Martial Out - Whateley In
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But you so called legends are a problem to man u project. Your dreams is curent not the future.
The team Ten hag has today had got about 3 or more coaches before but still no improvement.
Besides Ragnick said team needs open heart surgery.
Even fardinand himself against Suarez, Torres, Drogba etc was so poor even with Scholes in midfield.
I feel give Ten hag time for a good man u of tomorrow. Let him build.
You can't be in a structure of poor technical directors and board as well.
Joel looks like he's borrowed his sisters hat when he saw that everyone else was wearing one
mxm😂😂
😂😂
Miss the full episodes being on here not gonna lie boys
Where are the full episodes
Listen to the feedback - STOP SPLITTING UP THE VIDEOS!!
Joel makes me love Mondays❤😂🎉🎉
Start disliking the videos. They don’t seem to listen to us in the comments so maybe that’ll make them change
Kambawala was unbelievable yesterday!
Had to contend with Harry Maguire telling him to calm down every single time he got himself of the crowd hyped up though!! it feels like he's scared of pace and aggression and see's being slow and calm as a sign of being in control... he does the exact same thing when we've got the ball, without any hesitation if Onana catches the ball he's got Maguire screaming at him to slow down...
The kid is having the game of his life and the crowd are responding to it and he's got someone who's supposedly an ex captain telling him he's doing something wrong... WIlly and Licha in the same back 4 will be an attitude to defending we've not seen in years
Harry Maguire had a great game too. I would say the mid is still a let down.
@@kkir5004they don't push up they like defending on back foot
Shouldn't be hyping up the crowd though, worrying sign
@@dondamon4669 what's wrong with that?
@@tinashemurimi8713It’s Liverpool.
This is sacrilege I know but Bruno is going to be seen as a Robson figure in the fullness of time. He's often been the only one providing a moment of genius to get us some points. Yeah he's dramatic but you can't knock his commitment. He's always fit, he'll always chase down a cause, his goal reel is insane and he's never complained. We sold him a dream and he's had to shoulder multiple collapses.
Seen ppl criticising Bruno and I get it some of his passes got cut out etc but he saved united from 4 or 5 goals yesterday in 2nd half with work rate.
At one point he took a corner and then was last man defending after the move broke down.
I think Hoijland needs Bruno in 10 and to stay in there to get chances but I do think when they can put in someone alongside Mainoo that will fix issues.
For me atm I'd play Bruno deep as he can be the legs as casemiro seems to have lost it this season and play Amad or mount 10. Think that will actually help the team AND Hoijland. With Rashford injured play Mount #10 and Amad on right. Think that helps the team overall if its Bruno from deep alongside Mainoo.
Bruno is great and if Ole hadn't been screwed over he could have been his Cantona, I absolutely believe that. He's got better numbers than the King even, but Ole never got to actually build around him. Love Bruno a lot. Should be the 7, not Mount.
It’s was Bruno who started the play for Mainoos goal from deep
Hojlund has had 1 chance created for him in the last 3 matches, despicable
Splitting the videos up is horseshit.
Apparently they get more engagement so by you commenting that it’s helping them, ironically. Personally I’m not bothered. Don’t always want to watch all of it anyway.
United have good spells in games and in those spells, they actually play really good football. They press well, move the ball around well, and create chances. That's the style Ten Hag is referring to. The inability to maintain it over 90 minutes is a sign that they are not there yet but building towards that.
Underrated comment- this team will be scary in time. Lose ETH and we will see him create history at Barca/Bayern or Real.
i agree.. yes they are consistently inconsistent throughout a full game.. But they often do have good moments.
Hopefully with a few good signings in the next window, they can go to the next level. And allow a ton less shots and improve GD too 😂
@@corny17 I've no doubt they will. He's building a 3-1-6 attack and it requires composure and excellent decision-making in possession but quite often United have the ball turned over at the wrong time and in the wrong areas and that's why they get penetrated through time and again and concede so many shots.
Used to look forward to five on a monday one episode and good luck
On The Overlap - the same platform that Rio recently featured on - Stick to Football is one video long. Splitting the podcast episodes here, having previously been a full-length episode, is nothing more than an engagement- and view-baiting exercise. Gonna watch these with AdBlocker on going forward - that’s if I do watch them - as well as disliking them until the message is made clear. Such poor form.
couldn't agree more mate. this used to be one of my favorite podcasts but they trying way too hard to go viral
@@chelseabdul1996, quality over quantity. Their drop-off rate on subsequent parts says it all. 🤷♂️ This is utterly pointless from them.
@@adnanriaz9 facts man, i genuinely think don't fix it if it's not broken. ste, joel, rio had a great dynamic reacting to weekend football that i always used to look forward to. now it's bringing on guests that disrupts that dynamic, comparing mainoo, saka, palmer, foden every week to create a "viral" moment. if they just did what they're already good at, they'd grow organically. but this strategy is not the one. but im sure their marketing manager is getting paid a nice salary to make these dumb decisions and i'm just a fan ranting lol
Man, people will always cry.
Nah, you just think that splitting the show into two parts gives you more engagement?
Well it still stinks, and we all know it's Joel's idea ✊🏼💦
It’s a cretinous move.
@@adnanriaz9 Agreed
Honestly the page is getting corny and boring
Doesn’t really work long term when they haven’t all played top flight football. After a while you start to only listen to what Rio has to say imo
@@macurlyfriesyup. Ste is as bad as Joe and Flex is mad irritating.
the style of play is obvious, the players just can't do it for more then 20-30 minutes. if they could peg the opposition team back in their own half the way dominant teams do, then the style would make more sense. every game we start the same way, high press, attempt to move the ball quickly in possession, win it back quickly when dispossessed and play out from the back. but these all breakdown and then it looks like there is no "style"
Joel looks like a proper uncle 🇳🇬
I think he could be better but I think his recovery pace is his biggest weakness ..which means he’ll need a really good system for him to reach his full potential
Love this show but the cut up episodes made it all it all long,was perfect the way it was . Never missed a show b4
when Martinez plays there are no huge gaps in midfield since the whole defense plays much higher up and he is fast and has great anticipation, easy to see this cant be done with Maguire. we need more CBs of his profile who are left footed
i wouldn't call Martinez fast
Even when he played this season there were still huge gaps
we started to see a style of play last year that took control of midfield, a team built on a strong defence to allow the midfield to play to their strengths - ETH didn't get his summer signings in a timely manner or in exactly the positions he needed (aside from the goalie) and with the injuries, has not had a consistent backline all season - much like Ole giving up his plans and trying to fit around Ronaldo, ETH has got them playing transition purely because that's all Bruno and Rashford can play in the absence of a strong defensive team core... they're the 2 'leaders' of the team/dressing room who are refusing to adapt
so wait.. You are saying the CAPTAIN is refusing to adapt to the manager..
And the manager stil picks him ?
@@akeemguy7331you read it wrong
@@Nadeem146 "TH has got them playing transition purely because that's all Bruno and Rashford can play in the absence of a strong defensive team core... they're the 2 'leaders' of the team/dressing room who are refusing to adapt"
Did I?
Bruno is the captain right? How can the captain be one of the players that refuses to adapt?
The thing is.. when our forwards press..the midfield also has to press.. now we get to our defense they hesitate on the press cause we lack the pace .. which then leaves a large hole in the middle.
Steve talking absolute facts about the penalty decision when rio and joel watch it again in slow motion they will clearly see no contact until elliot is already on his way down he clips AWB leg, VAR useless just cos u dive in recklessly doesnt mean its a foul🤣🤣 needs to be contact fgs what are they even saying if he hasnt touched him then he hasnt touched wheres the foul?😩🤣🤣
Ur dreaming, goes to ground in the box, makes no contact with the ball, fouls Elliot. Bonehead tackle, penalty everyday of the week.
"just cos u dive in recklessly"
poor choice of words my friend..
As my mum used to say 'Don't give them a reason'
Rio hardly ever slide tackled cos it leads to mistakes, especially in the box!
All of the teams at Man United, need to play the same way so that players can slot into team any time.
We also have a left back playing in Spain, he should have brought him to play there
Rio gave great insights on this one.
All the stars were out.... FLEX? 😅😅😂
One qtn i do have is , who should be getting the credit for this current crop of young talents? was it people on Ole's team who did the work and we are now seeing the results?
Thank you Rio that’s what I was thinking when klopp said what he said about united to get them fired up
the other team can play the same type of football because the players have similar base traits in the squad for the positions, of course they are unicorns like Rodri but if you take citys back line for example their is alway a player who can step into the Stones midfeild role be it Lewis or Ake albeit not as effective and still maintain the deffensive intergrity.
LFG The vibes are high Joel and Man Utd!
whats with the hats?
We've not had a settled defence all season. Varane is leaving this summer, so we need to sign a quality centre back as his replacement. Kambwala looks quality, but hes 19 years old, so he still needs time develop. Casemiro 32 now i think, so we need to look at signing a quality defensive midfielder. Mainoo is sick, but to me hes not a defensive midfielder, he more offensive. And maybe a striker as well, provide competition to Hojlund who's 21 himself. Some good young players coming through at United, and I'm 95% sure that Ten Hag is the guy to take United forward and get challenging and win the big competitions.
United have their good moments.. just no consistency/stability at all.
Injuries are part of the reason.. and I think perhaps they just don't have the squad depth or enough good reliable players to get some stability even while having so many injuries.
I also think Mainoo is probably going to be best as just a CM. Not AM or DM. He seems to have good ability to contribute in both attack and defence.
Mainoo is going to be mentioned in the same conversation as Keano, Robson, Scolesy and Carrick.
Only if he wins Titles .If not then NO
If he stays healthy, and if he stays at United then yeah it is a possibility, but the issue of playing him every week is that he could develop injury issues.
@@thetruth4654thats an issue with every player
Robbo didn't win titles with us hes basically the man utd stevie G@@SalmanKhan-yx5uf
@@sloppygoo Bryan Robson has won 2 premier league titles with man utd
Joel makes me love Mondays ❤😂🎉
Cant believe how long its taken for Stephens shiner to go, can still see it
lmao
We’ve said the same thing for every coach that’s come in. Jose master tactician. Lvg master tactician. Ragnick master tactician. Ten hagg showed what he’s capable of. It’s time to face the facts that’s not them it’s the players. When the players downed tools for moyese it set a standard that players run the club. We’ve suffered from it since when they don’t like the manager they down tools
Kobbie is already world class
Part 2?
He can be if he keeps feet grounded and doesn’t get rashford mentoring
Hit it on the nail Steve.....what we gonna do with Bruno.....
For all he's quality, he's role as it is presently hinders the team & teams target it.... especially the big games
Joel will be crying at the end of the season. Again, and I'll be here for it😭
Ste is spot on. Just because awb dives in doesn’t mean it’s a penalty. Elliot kicks awb leg & falls over so it’s not a penalty. If awb makes contact first it’s a penalty.
Hope howson comes with the same energy when bruno garnaacho or rashford dive like they do.
I get it we've been poor this season, but what can ten Hag do when the team wins the ball back and lose it within 30s. It's either players are not completing a 5 yard square pass or trying the impossible pass to someone marked out. Does ten Hag need to also make decisions for players on the pitch? How many times does Garnacho get brushed off the ball easily in promising moments? I get the agenda but the reality is we have kick and run merchants from Oles whom y'all expect to play like seasoned technical players at City or Arsenal. Some objectivity would do instead of regurgitating this tired narrative.
You want objectivitiy?
If you could see the mistakes? Why cant ETH see them?
For e.g. Garnacho getting brushed off the ball meanwhile Amad sits on the bench and never plays..
Why does Mctominay and Bruno(Ole player) start over Eriksen Amrabat and Mount (ETH's signings)if ETH wants to play differently?
Why make Bruno captain if he wants technical players?
United weren't this open last year under ETH strange how it has changed
Only system that seems to work,gung ho football
We haven’t got the players to control the game so our best chance is to play open as we know are players are best at counter attack and in transitions. I’d rather see this football than the park the bus Jose style or Ole style that was solely counter attack. Rangnick came in and wanted pressing and intensity and many player couldn’t hack it, Ten Hag is having similar problems with some players but we are lacking options right now.
True. We might as well go for broke. We have conceded more than we have scored this season. Its actually a miracle that we are 6th.
counter attacking teams hardly every play open lol..
@@akeemguy7331 yeh cos Ten hag doesn’t want to play solely counter attack from a low block like ole did. He wants to be pro active and win balls high up the pitch from our pressing which we do well at times but often don’t turn it into goals unfortunately and because we don’t have a defence that can play high right now we end up with space’s in the middle but the other side to that is when opposition starting committing players forward through midfield we then get our counter attack chances as well from turnovers. I like it and think it quite brave cos you know when we have players like Martinez, Shaw, Varane and just our best players match fit we can play much better, injuries have fucked us this season but under Ten Hag the youngsters continue to shine.
@@Tdoggg noo that's dumb AF..
If you know you cant play that way without everyone fit.. You admit to the players that are fit and play counterattack.. WTH am I reading..
You are leaving this big gap in midfield, exposing Mainoo and Casemiro every game for what?
Gutted he will go to the euros. I wanted him to stay home an a serious strength and conditioning programme over the summer bayern style. His physicality has already improved massively but people need to stop turning a blind eye to his lack of speed and explosiveness at the minute. Aswell as getting the right players around him to create a balanced midfeild not the current ridiculous set up
What was weird was the positons he found him self in when Liverpool had the ball, not he's fault - the manager needs to get that sorted out as it was basic stuff & left massive gaps
The best 3 too listen too on the channel. I dont tune in when flex is on, Not a fan personally but shout out to you three.
With uniteds second goal yesterday bruno drops into the 8 and let's Kobbie to get forward n it caused mayhem in the Liverpool midfield endo followed bruno back and macallister stayed forward giving kobbie nearly 40 yards to drive into it was brilliant wish they did that more often
Rio it is ETH’s style. Have a look at the clip of Ruud Gullit telling ETH he’s vacating the midfield too much at Ajax and it leaves the team too open. ETH replies by saying he’s willing to take that risk for other reasons. It’s what he wants. It’s mad.
9:15
it's because there is only 1 player who can read the game defensively in midfield, casemiro. the rest are terrible at it. You also need strikers who can read the game and read the danger. Shows how valuable a Wayne Rooney was to United for so many years.
The structure or lack of it therefore is all on ETH
There has been a dearth of world class players in the world, not just England but the world for more than a decade. 1998-2006 there were so many they were having those epic friendlies all the time where guys would actually turn up and play and have fun, so don't worry about whether Mainoo, Saka or Foden can be world class. Worry about if he/they can fulfill his/their potential first. You guys like getting ahead of yourselves and it's getting a bit much now, it's not about the debate and banter. Be realistic.
Great content, gotta give a thumbs down again for the split content.....
INEOS are to blame if/when we fail to get 5th. If they sacked ETH a few weeks ago and brought in a half decent interim manager, things would be different. The cost of sacking ETH pales in comparison to the cost of not making it into the championship league. We will struggle to attract top players who want to play at the highest level.
Just waiting for the post Arsenal game Joe Beya reaction. Sunnies, cigar, balloon cup and confetti. Bring out the works. Joe Beya get used to the Balloon cup yet? That's as close Arsenal will get to a premier league title.
Shout out to Ten Hag for developing the young players into the best players in the team this season. Mainoo, Garnacho and now Kambwala. This coach will turn them into world class players. As for the senior players in the squad, they are not coachable and many need to leave. Give Ten Hag the time and he’ll build an amazing team around the likes of Mainoo, Garnacho, Hojlund and many more that are looking exciting in the academy.
"How many balls did we get in the box." 😂😂😅
Mainooooo❤
When Joe talks about the penalty you can see the smile on Steves face, and then Rio agree with Joe. Steves smile is gone!! 😂😂😂
We can’t bring our main striker into the game and Bruno likes to run like a headless chicken so let’s start playing him as a false 9 and actually get another midfielder on the pitch. Second half of games bring on Hojlund
I would like to see bruno, mainoo and mount midfield
Great podcast - let's have some WHUFC content - Europa League v best German team - let's hear some discussion
Why is your intro a minute long
Rip wearing number 4 on his cap when it's vibe with 5.. A bit off innit?
A player like Palinha would bring the best out of Mainoo + Bruno combo. They’re just missing an athletic DM tbf
00:30 Shameless Joel
England have to go with Mainoo, Rice and Jude with Foden and Saka around Kane
Stephen couldn’t even look at Joel for the first few minutes 😂😂😂 Joel was doing everything to make him bite in the first few mins 😂😂😂😂
I think its time to ditch Casemiro.
My guy Steve Black eye agian wots going on ur doing ufc 😂
Good muzik
i would have like to see Amad coming in the side
What’s this part 1 part 2 nonsense. At least upload them around the same time!!
Just one request, change the intro song... not the best in my opinion.
Lads he's decent but (obviously) still rough around the edges. Out of possession he really isn't there at all yet. He needs a proper partner next to him. Talent is there in bucket loads though, just have to nurture him properly now
Don't count your hopes to high on Ten Hag leaving. There are clearly missing ingredients in his recipe towards being a top team. I love Keane but not everything he says is right.
There is a system that is being put in place but as many ex-footballers are saying we are still a counter attacking team. How do one impose his system when he is to listen to amateur coaches and fans and to keep on playing the United way. I thought we United are an attacking team not a counter attacking side.
How long do you think a system should start working perfectly? Last season we finish 3rd and many thought that we would do better this season with the same pattern of play which is almost counter attacking. This season he brought in the players that he believes that would suit his style of play. You cannot see this because of the injuries to these type of players. I believe that he doesn't wanna wait for all of his signings then make the change. This team is in a learning transition towards a new style of play and he is taking the risk to do that.
I can see in games that some of the players don't have the winners heart. Maybe they have their own ideas that will suit their game. If you have half of the team thinking like that even if you were city or Liverpool, you will not function as a team.
Keane was in a team of lion hearts. Can you name eleven lion hearts in this current team? This team is a zoo. Worse o f all, it is filled with some rats that we are looking at!!
Ratclilff is a United fan and he mentioned in an interview before that United is and should be an exciting attacking team as we were always were. He also added that we must keep continuing the tradition of producing high quality youth players policy that we have always been successful with.
We are now producing the youths in Mainoo, Kwambala, Ganarcho and a few more to come next season.
You can see a system of play in the U18s and they are instructions from no other than the manager.
If you read SAFs autobiography, he stated;-
In spite of Manchester United's dismal form during the first half of the season, he was assured by the club's directors that his position as manager was never at risk; although naturally disappointed with the club's lack of progress in the league, they understood the reason for this - namely that a number of key players, including Neil Webb, were unavailable for long spells due to injury. However, Ferguson also admitted in his autobiography that had he not achieved success with United that season, he feared that fan and media pressure on the club's board to sack him could eventually have become irresistible. There had been numerous calls from fans during the season for Ferguson to be sacked, and media reports had suggested that the former Everton manager Howard Kendall would be appointed as his successor; Kendall was appointed by United's local rivals Manchester City during the season.
That season brought their lowest league finish since their relegation from the First Division 15 years earlier, as they finished 13th in the league, and by Christmas there were continued calls from fans for Alex Ferguson to be sacked as manager.
And we must not forget that a certain Micheal Knight had bid for the club and his promise was to bring Sir Bobby Robson as the next manager.
I should be judging the team come end next season.
Stop splitting the video
it seems like it was a hat show today
1:43 1:46
How is ste still on this show? Shocking take to say it wasn’t a pen.
Aaron just came back from injury.. Obviously he's made a lazy tackle.. We don't have the left side covered because of Injuries 😢
Im I the only one that think Mainoo runs faster when hes with the ball than without
He was on the way down already and then he made the contact
I hate the breaking up of episodes
I know that Arsenal winning the league is the lesser of all evils but it absolutely sickens me to the very depths of my soul to see Joel this happy about us potentially “helping” them win the league.
They won't beat united at OT either so he will be crying after that game
This was a clear Penalty.. It was mistimed tackle.. Madueke one was a bloody dive.. That can't be a penalty
I truly believe Bruno needs to go. For Joao neves. Let Kobbie cook more
He's world class, cut the nonsense. And he will remain world class before Saka becomes it
Making excuses for players. This is how the manager wants to play, get the players that can do it.
Stop splitting the show ❤
Not until he does it for 4 years lifts the FA cup. Scores multiple goals at the World Cup hat trick for England .. braces vs city Liverpool Chelsea Tottenham Arsenal and then does the same in champions league knock outs right? Needs about 100 more GA and probably learn how to defend a corner
Literally no contact on Elliot
Stephen still carries that blackeye from the scouser
joel didn’t get too carried away cuh bayern are lurking around the corner😂😂
Mainoo hopefully turns out to be what we wanted pogba to be
He already is world class
Style is possession,just when players are out there . They don’t do it . But also he’s makes subtle hints to dressing room he’s not happy he’s doesn’t do a Jose and call directly cos guess what people like you would criticise him saying times have changed bla bla dude can’t win .
Worse thing is you was a player Rio you should know better ones your on the pitch it’s down to you as players to stick to plan
but if a player dont stick to the plan..
Why does ETH:
1 - keep them on most of the game?
2 - Pick them game after game?
@@akeemguy7331 cos nothing else is available . Cant throw youngsters to wolves 🐺
@@mattye88gaming Mainoo Garnacho Kambwala did just fine..
ANd what you mean nothing else available? Dont you see Amad Amrabat Eriksen all on the bench.. Y'all not serious..
@@akeemguy7331 erikson done and Amrabat hasn’t adapted to league especially speed of it . Both been woeful each time . Some can but some can’t .and throwing a load of youngsters out can be detrimental too them . Look at forson crumbled
@@mattye88gaming Forson should never have played over Amad in the first place..
Also .. Eriksen and Amrabat are players HE SIGNED... Do you not see the issue here?
Rio and Joel defending the terrible decision is sickening. VAR was brought in to prevent this nonsense.
Stop cutting up the episode, if youre going to AT LEAST post the parts at the same time
Yeah we would we should play bruno deeper not as a number 10 rio if your watching this i think you should suggest this please recognise this comment