You can’t assume your first point because he lived a completely new life after have his memories wiped. I think it more correct to say the money and status is what turned the real victor into an a**. Just like when Tony had the money and fame.
I think this showcases how their different motivations works. Doom is motivated by a desire for Power above all else. And having found himself with power, he twists it to gain MORE power. Tony is motivated by a desire for SOLUTIONS. He's always chasing that high that he gets from solving the equation. And when he CAN'T solve the equation, he CRASHES. Latvia was an enormous knot of problems, so Tony crashed for a while, but once he started to get some traction, it actually made him a better person, whereas Doom found himself being superior by virtue of who society defined him as, not who HE defined HIMSELF as. By discarding his identity as Doom, by being GIVEN power rather than EARNING it, he stripped himself of his greatest strength, and it made him weak.
@@thelordofthelostbraincells no, what he analyzed correctly is that Doom is about the end result. He had power, wealth and prominence and got sloppy. Tony was at the bottom in a weak situation but Tony is motivated by the buzz he gets from solving a problem, making an advance. As much as women and excess give him a buzz, his biggest buzz is from finding an answer. That moment when he fixes something, the harder the better, is his best 'hit' of endorphines. Being stuck at the bottom in Latveria... once he pulls himself out of his funk he has a whole collection of puzzles and riddles to solve.
This is my favourite version of Tony Stark because here he actually learnt hard work and pushed himself to be better. And this comic also exposes that Doom is just a terrible person underneath in most Universes.
His armor, his money, his fame, his identity. Man lost EVERYTHING and pulled himself from the gutter and slums, and eventually using his great minds made his (new) home a better place to be.
He definitely did, but that doesn't mean he was nothing on his own. Even in the other timelines, he never rested on his laurels or stagnated, and continued to reach further heights.
Ironically though when victor was just as smart if not more than tony by getting a big head start with tony's family money he screwed up in the future.
The fake Iron Man suit was battle armor suit Doom/Stark was developing, and the fake Doctor Doom armor was a rescue suit prototype Stark/Doom had been developing. The latter ended up prevailing because Stark/Doom managed to use some of the features of said suit to counteract the weapons systems of Doom/Stark's armor. Essentially Victor got lucky that his weapons development made a power suit, while Tony just followed his instincts and accidentally made a suit for a random purpose that managed to outclass dedicated weapons tech.
@@thelordofthelostbraincells pretty much was the gameplan. Mostly the latter two. It was designed to fight fires and be used rescuing people from extremely hostile situations, with the physical strength and durability needed to pull off such endeavors.
@@theendersmirk5851 when I was a kid, I remember watching this future tech show (don't know the name) that was talking about how the government wanted to create irl ironman suits for police and fire rescue. That was so awesome to me since I first watched first ironman when I was like 7 or 8. I would love a continuation of this version of ironman tbh
I really liked how in this version of earth 🌎 that the hero, Tony/Victor and the villain, or rather menace Victor/Tony in this story were somewhat equally matched in a way. It actually makes things a bit more exciting.
isn't there a council of reed richards that go around turning doom's into vegetables? all dooms? so if victor von doom is an honourable man, it'd suck when the reeds come knocking with their whole "all dooms are evil"?
I mean, it could be interesting story ... Member of Council of Reed arrive at this universe to eradicate Doom ... But then he found out that in that universe, Doom (actually Tony) is a hero, and even already join with Avenger of that universe, including Reed and Fantastic Four of that universe ... And the HQ were built on Latveria that has turned into prosper highly developed city ... But the Council of Reed still commit to their mission and attacking the Latveria city and fight against Doom, Reed, and the Avengers ... Even if that mean Council of Reed need to destroy the Latveria city and kill its citizens ...
just me, but kind of amazing how this is very similar to Robert Downy Jr. and how he had wrestled with his vices up to the night he got it all together and cast for the Role of Tony stark, a kind of fun symmetry
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Tony is a brilliant inventor and business man for sure Kind soul at heart Dammed awful PR guy As if people needed more ammunition against corporations he called his thing DOOM Industries XD
Whoever wrote this this is how it's done Disney needs to look at this those Marvel writers this is how you create greatness taking two legendary characters one a hero one a villain and turning one into the other and making it actually work just kept my attention more than certainly anything modern TV could ever do of course television is always been trashed and programming just not as bad as this stop watching was the best decision ever but this was really good writing and really good
Body switching dynamics is weird because what it really does is create new people with the personality of the source. It is why someone like Goku Black is distinct but similar to both Zamasu and Son Goku.
It was a good story, but didn't the writer miss what happened to Doom's original experiment? The one which disfigured him? I can't believe he never pursued it afterwards.
🙄These comics are old and a common thing on CZcams. The fact he keeps it to 2 minutes instead of drawing it out so readers can easily see the pages probably makes him better than others in that term. Problem being, these comics are almost impossible to find, and if you find them second hand, you still aren’t paying the authors anything extra, so shut up and stop whining about minor things that don’t concern you. It would be laughed out of a white collar court, it certainly doesn’t have any business taking up space in anyone else’s mind.
@@Norinia hi Norinia. Im not concerned with legal ramifications. I just think if someone bothers to create a video on youtube that shows someone elses artistic property and you have a ability to make money from it (no matter how small) I would at least bother to reference the auther and artist. I have resepect for the artform and think artists and authors deserve to be acknowledged for their work. What is the purpose of these videos? To interest people and maybe encourage them to get into comics? I hope so! Take the extra step and reference the book so people can get into it. Support the industry that you and I love! I want to boost up comics and make sure they dont go anywhere any time soon. Also this book is from 2010 and able to buy on amazon. You might know that if someone bothered to reference the book. But thats too hard for some reason? If Im putting a video on CZcams about a movie, or a painting. I would reference the director or artist. Comics deserve the same resepect. Thanks for your comment but I disagree.
Shows that 1: tony is a truly good person at heart and 2 man can build back his fortune From nothing
You can’t assume your first point because he lived a completely new life after have his memories wiped. I think it more correct to say the money and status is what turned the real victor into an a**. Just like when Tony had the money and fame.
"Tony Stark was able to build this in a cave with a box of scraps." -Obadiah Stane
It’s kinda like when Baboon and Weasel switched brains. Baboon was still a fuck-up while Weasel started as a bathroom attendant up to Mayor.
bigbrain bring big money bro
He built it back by blood
This really proves that TONY STARK BUILT THIS IN A CAVE WITH A BOX OF SCRAPS literally.
Well I'm sorry, I'm not Tony stark
@@quantumtp5872neither is Tony for Victor Von Doom is an honorable man with a box of scraps
I think this showcases how their different motivations works.
Doom is motivated by a desire for Power above all else. And having found himself with power, he twists it to gain MORE power.
Tony is motivated by a desire for SOLUTIONS. He's always chasing that high that he gets from solving the equation. And when he CAN'T solve the equation, he CRASHES.
Latvia was an enormous knot of problems, so Tony crashed for a while, but once he started to get some traction, it actually made him a better person, whereas Doom found himself being superior by virtue of who society defined him as, not who HE defined HIMSELF as. By discarding his identity as Doom, by being GIVEN power rather than EARNING it, he stripped himself of his greatest strength, and it made him weak.
In other words Tony Stark mentality is the basic process of an addict he relapses and gets clean after math.
So basically, tony had to work for it, whole doom took a shortcut.
@@thelordofthelostbraincells no, what he analyzed correctly is that Doom is about the end result. He had power, wealth and prominence and got sloppy. Tony was at the bottom in a weak situation but Tony is motivated by the buzz he gets from solving a problem, making an advance. As much as women and excess give him a buzz, his biggest buzz is from finding an answer. That moment when he fixes something, the harder the better, is his best 'hit' of endorphines. Being stuck at the bottom in Latveria... once he pulls himself out of his funk he has a whole collection of puzzles and riddles to solve.
This is my favourite version of Tony Stark because here he actually learnt hard work and pushed himself to be better. And this comic also exposes that Doom is just a terrible person underneath in most Universes.
One of the few Tony Starks that ended well and a good person, but what he had to pass trough to achieve that was wild as fuck
No kidding! I guess that Buddha Quotes is right as Fuck! It is better to conquer yourself than to win a thousand battles. Then the victory is yours.
literally pulled the no take backs rule
I would say the same shiz. *F off do- stark!* *I had to pull myself out of the gutter and make my home a better place*
One of the few “what if” stories I actually like. Most feel too mean spirited or schlocky.
Prove that Tony stark is capable of many things even without his armour and people sleep on this fact
His armor, his money, his fame, his identity. Man lost EVERYTHING and pulled himself from the gutter and slums, and eventually using his great minds made his (new) home a better place to be.
@@thelordofthelostbraincells ppl really downplay him because comic did him dirty many times and movie couldn't show his full potential
@@Racist2099 I would've loved of this expanded on this very of ironman (I mean tony doom?, idk how you would call him)
@@thelordofthelostbraincells he would still be Dr doom since he is in victors body and accepted his new life as victor
He is literally a Doom for everyone, and also a Doctor. Doctor or what? Destruction...
Mister?
The suit is JUST how I imagined it would be
Tony has always been the Comeback King (even with some nudges from his friends sometimes)
For all those who think Tony had a head start with his dad's money..
He definitely did, but that doesn't mean he was nothing on his own. Even in the other timelines, he never rested on his laurels or stagnated, and continued to reach further heights.
He still did though
I mean he absolutely did. You realize this is a comic book and in no way indicative of the way real life works right?
Ironically though when victor was just as smart if not more than tony by getting a big head start with tony's family money he screwed up in the future.
This isn't real life kid
Want to crush someone spirits?tell them you are a honorable man.
Doom give Tony a life full of mistakes ...
But little did he know, Tony learn from mistakes ...
Ok but he couldn’t have come up with a better name than Doom Industries?
Marketing, my guy.
Iron-y is the name of the game.
It is the Doom of Greed, Cruelty and Lust for Power.
The name works in a good way.
Did they both just have armored super suits lying around for such an occasion 😭
The fake Iron Man suit was battle armor suit Doom/Stark was developing, and the fake Doctor Doom armor was a rescue suit prototype Stark/Doom had been developing. The latter ended up prevailing because Stark/Doom managed to use some of the features of said suit to counteract the weapons systems of Doom/Stark's armor. Essentially Victor got lucky that his weapons development made a power suit, while Tony just followed his instincts and accidentally made a suit for a random purpose that managed to outclass dedicated weapons tech.
@@theendersmirk5851*rescue suit* implies that stark (in dooms body) would have mass produced these for probably police, fire and rescue services.
@@thelordofthelostbraincells pretty much was the gameplan. Mostly the latter two. It was designed to fight fires and be used rescuing people from extremely hostile situations, with the physical strength and durability needed to pull off such endeavors.
@@theendersmirk5851 when I was a kid, I remember watching this future tech show (don't know the name) that was talking about how the government wanted to create irl ironman suits for police and fire rescue.
That was so awesome to me since I first watched first ironman when I was like 7 or 8.
I would love a continuation of this version of ironman tbh
@@thelordofthelostbraincellswas it on Discovery Channel by any chance? I think it was called Beyond Tomorrow.
I never heard of this story, but will definitely read this
Story was very interesting, comic is called What if? Iron man: Demon in an armor
@@ComicsUnlocked thanks
I really liked how in this version of earth 🌎 that the hero, Tony/Victor
and the villain, or rather menace Victor/Tony in this story were somewhat equally matched in a way. It actually makes things a bit more exciting.
So Iron Man became Doom once and Doom became Iron Man.. safe to say, these two probably somewhat admired eachother..
Even so much that Dr Doom took up the mantle of Infamous Iron Man, as Tony Stark was indisposed (dont remember if he was in a coma or dead)
@@GalenMarek1988hence my comment about them taking on eachother’s mantle.. so yeah, my point exactly bruv..
Keep in mind he's an honorable 🎖 man in this reality.
Crazy! And here I thought Green/Silver Iron Man and Gold/Red DOOM were just nifty looking player 2 skins. 😎
Alternate title: whatsapp iron man vs ironman
isn't there a council of reed richards that go around turning doom's into vegetables? all dooms? so if victor von doom is an honourable man, it'd suck when the reeds come knocking with their whole "all dooms are evil"?
I mean, it could be interesting story ...
Member of Council of Reed arrive at this universe to eradicate Doom ...
But then he found out that in that universe, Doom (actually Tony) is a hero, and even already join with Avenger of that universe, including Reed and Fantastic Four of that universe ...
And the HQ were built on Latveria that has turned into prosper highly developed city ...
But the Council of Reed still commit to their mission and attacking the Latveria city and fight against Doom, Reed, and the Avengers ... Even if that mean Council of Reed need to destroy the Latveria city and kill its citizens ...
until they learn about the mind switch, yeah
I think it would've been better to call them Victor Stark (Doom in Tony's body), and Tony Doom (Tony in Doom's body).
This is a fascinating universe I would love to see more of.
In every universe tony stark always go through alcoholism
just me, but kind of amazing how this is very similar to Robert Downy Jr. and how he had wrestled with his vices up to the night he got it all together and cast for the Role of Tony stark, a kind of fun symmetry
Just imagine this as a movie 🎬 🎞 🎥 🎦 📽.
XD
not only he build it in a cave with a bunch of scraps XD
he build it in slums of latveria XD
i love how they recreated cover from demon in a bottle
I have to say, I like the color exchange between the armors!
Iron Doom and Dr. Man
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Thank you very much, I appreciate your support. 😊
You know ideas are running out when comicbook characters become different versions of other comicbook characters.
Come on, It's not that. It's just a fun twist to the characters to entertain the reader.
@@dreamreaver1218so basically what the original comment said
@@johnnycage6676 A fun twist doesn't mean that they were out of ideas. They just play with the possibility.
What if is a series with stories contained in one issue.
Couldn’t even be bothered to list the comic featured…
Gatekeepers must return
Tony is a brilliant inventor and business man for sure
Kind soul at heart
Dammed awful PR guy
As if people needed more ammunition against corporations he called his thing DOOM Industries XD
1:26 WhatsApp iron man
Moral of the story: be yourself.
Don't fake it, live it!
Whoever wrote this this is how it's done Disney needs to look at this those Marvel writers this is how you create greatness taking two legendary characters one a hero one a villain and turning one into the other and making it actually work just kept my attention more than certainly anything modern TV could ever do of course television is always been trashed and programming just not as bad as this stop watching was the best decision ever but this was really good writing and really good
Body switching dynamics is weird because what it really does is create new people with the personality of the source. It is why someone like Goku Black is distinct but similar to both Zamasu and Son Goku.
Name of the comic book please and thank you
Waoo this is a great story i love 2 see where it ends
You can see at 1:59. This is where the comic's story ends.😀
Where can I read this ?
"It seems like you have failed master..."
*Destroys robot* "Iron... Iron never fails..." *Lightning bolt*
Wait... is this heroic version of Dr Doom a broken character 🤔?
What is the music?
Mr Mood and Oxideman
It was a good story, but didn't the writer miss what happened to Doom's original experiment? The one which disfigured him? I can't believe he never pursued it afterwards.
Good writing
Please give the comic titles so I can check them out
Tony Stark is not someone to be played with
Need more dr doom content victor Vaughn is actually another one of mf dooms personas aswell
I wonder in which realm, does this story take place in?
The designation for the timeline is Earth 11029.
Wow.
The story.
What a cool channel
We need live action movie of alternate universe story lines.
Cillian Murphy to play Dr Doom plz
I can see that, he has those ice chip eyes and can play stone cold killers epically
Respect Iron Man.
We never saw dooms real face .... tony stark from future or something ..
Sauce?
Once again failed to what the comic arc is in the details guess I’ll get to googling
So Victor isint really a good leader huh.
Real life🎉
What’s next ? Spider-Man becomes normal osbounre ?
MF DOOM & GHOST FACE KILLAH/IRON MAN….DOOM-STARKS….VICTORY LAPS…YES SIR
So basically, Doom beats Tony by beating Doom by Tony
I’m sick of this multiverse shit I’m ready for new characters and stories
Marvel: Here's a fish Spiderman
Doug Doug: Here’s a Durian
Victor von Doom? You mean Jerma?
iron whatsapp man
How about his mom?
Please dont steal content. Please reference name of comic, author, artist etc
Please don't be a pathetic white knight. No one gives a fuck.
Please get a grip. Nobody is losing money off of this so stop calling the guy a thief just because you want to be a little bitch on internet
🙄These comics are old and a common thing on CZcams. The fact he keeps it to 2 minutes instead of drawing it out so readers can easily see the pages probably makes him better than others in that term.
Problem being, these comics are almost impossible to find, and if you find them second hand, you still aren’t paying the authors anything extra, so shut up and stop whining about minor things that don’t concern you. It would be laughed out of a white collar court, it certainly doesn’t have any business taking up space in anyone else’s mind.
@@Norinia hi Norinia.
Im not concerned with legal ramifications.
I just think if someone bothers to create a video on youtube that shows someone elses artistic property and you have a ability to make money from it (no matter how small) I would at least bother to reference the auther and artist. I have resepect for the artform and think artists and authors deserve to be acknowledged for their work. What is the purpose of these videos? To interest people and maybe encourage them to get into comics? I hope so! Take the extra step and reference the book so people can get into it. Support the industry that you and I love! I want to boost up comics and make sure they dont go anywhere any time soon.
Also this book is from 2010 and able to buy on amazon. You might know that if someone bothered to reference the book. But thats too hard for some reason?
If Im putting a video on CZcams about a movie, or a painting. I would reference the director or artist. Comics deserve the same resepect.
Thanks for your comment but I disagree.
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Adds are still gay
Tony is lazy and arrogant