Bruce would be the assistant researching a cure with Reed. Probably a coworker that eventually injects himself with hulk blood. Possibly a villian like abomination.
Its arguably better tho since we've seen other hulks like She Hulk get a grip on the transformation. Bens big problem was that he didn't have the option to look human again he liked the super strength and the wacky space adventures and the catch phrases and if he could change at will it be the best of both worlds.
not really. Bruce's Hulk is separate identity due to childhood trauma. Ben doesn't have such problems, and probably will learn to turn into Hulk keeping his mind intact
Dr. Doom has that “we don’t talk about it, thats how much we don’t want to fight this guy” energy. Dude took over part of the world and every government was like “pfffffffffft finders keepers I guess, yall can try and take it back if you want but we aren’t gonna help”
@@darkmask5933 Actually no, Hulk has in Hulk himself, has a kid, of course it was with an alien but knowing the fantastic four Ben would most likely meet aliens. So all and all much better ending for him.
This actually makes doom s lot scarier, because now doom just doesn't age, ever. With all the things he accomplished in his "lifespan," imagine him after 10,000 years.
Actually there’s a comic where in a distant future doom transferred his mind into a robot planet and became enemie of the distant future avengers, so yea lifespan never really was a problem for doom
Knowing how long the Thing can live, with the 1 week of being human a year. It seems like Doom is near immortal, and would see it as a blessing, despite not looking what he use to look like.
Doom becomes the thing. Reed becomes The Maker. Susan becomes Khan the Conqueror. Johnny becomes Nhilus. Franklyn becomes the master of Galactus. Valeria.... isn't retconed out of existence
If I recall, there is a similar story where the Human Torch jumps through different dimensions. One where Doom is the Thing and the good guy. Another where the Cosmic Rays created a virus that wiped out all men. And one where Spider-Man was married to Sue and the leader of the FF.
So Dr. Doom would then achieve his goal seeing as, if not killed, he's immortal and has everything he already had + the things strength. There's more of a villain there than he already was lol
what ifs are so cool. it's such a shame how the mcu can't instead of avenger 99 and the lost tv remote of the couch we instead get this. if they refuse to develop the characters why not do alternative reboots
Something about the image chosen for the thumbnail reminds me of how in the short lived run of Tmnt comics done by image Raphael ends up taking on the shredder mantle. Granted now the circumstances are a lot less what-iffy but hey, no helping where one’s brain tend to veer off towards.
the one thing that kinda bugs me about this story is how ben's intelligence got bumped way down like the OG savage hulk's personality came from bruce's dissociative identity disorder, from all the abuse he suffered, making savage hulk just a childlike persona that wanted to be left alone, so i'm not really sure where it came from in ben's case
There is something absolutely hilarious seeing somebody behaving like Doctor Doom (In this situation, young Mr. Doom) while just looking like some dude.
I wonder what would happen if destiny didnt have to happen. All the characters are there, but their choices are all different. Enemies are different, rivals different. If anybody could get a power, anybody does get the power.
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This in my opinion would be an epic story to follow, just the epic stuff they'll do, and how the cosmic rays would've affected doom as well in the long run, it'd be epic as frick
The first what-if series had 2 stories where the F F didn't get any superpowers and another where they all had different ones. The second series had one where they all got the same powers.
Actually its probably better. With his friends and family he probably has a far better time with the Hulk personas and as a member of the F4 there will be less of being an outcast and hunted. Plus he can turn back to his normal looking self.
So, why was Ben at that Gamma test site to begin with? I thought he is a test pilot, not a scientist? Or did losing his BFF reinvigorate his scientific interest and he chose a different field of study?
this... story basically means... there are two hulks? did this story totally forget that bruce ya know... still exists... and this by no means effects him not... already becoming the hulk.
Why can't/doesn't Franklin Richards turn the Thing back into his human form? I know this question is a bit more for the last Thing video, but why does he have to live a thousand years as the Thing instead of Franklin just making him a man? . . . other than Marvel not wanting to take away part of the Thing's struggle.
is it just me or do these characters have a creepy, "uncanny valley" look? I'm not familiar with this artist, but did their stuff always look like AI.??
Im not a feminist or nothing bit it seems like the crux of everything fantastic 4 disaster is most of the team/villian being in love with the invisible woman. These scientists needa start thinkin with their upper head
The moment they broke into a foreign dignitaries kid room; the R.A dean of school and secret service would have expelled Reed & Ben Grimm...man I love the zany stuff comics had, just pure sci fi bullcrap! 😂
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Kinda sweet to know they were somewhat still destined to be a team, even with such drastic changes in the timeline
If Ben becomes the Hulk, and Victor becomes Dr. Thing, then I assume Bruce becomes an unimportant background character, right?
Yep, or maybe a kind of support character for the smart people of earth
I kind dug the idea of him becoming the leader or something.
imagine how far could bruce reach witouth his mr hide, I bet he would be on the same level as tony stark!
Bruce would be the assistant researching a cure with Reed.
Probably a coworker that eventually injects himself with hulk blood.
Possibly a villian like abomination.
@@sworddomo1951 poor bruce, he is DOOMED to be a monster
Bruh, Ben can't have a break, he seems to be doomed to be a clobbering monster in everey universe
At least in this one he isn't permanently a big rock man
Its arguably better tho since we've seen other hulks like She Hulk get a grip on the transformation. Bens big problem was that he didn't have the option to look human again he liked the super strength and the wacky space adventures and the catch phrases and if he could change at will it be the best of both worlds.
Ironically the only universe where ben isn’t the thing that i know of is the marvel ruins one…
not really. Bruce's Hulk is separate identity due to childhood trauma. Ben doesn't have such problems, and probably will learn to turn into Hulk keeping his mind intact
Dr. Doom turned into MF DOOM.
all i could think of was the all caps music video
@@baranselsagir5675or beef rap
Doctor Thing would see a brief stint as a rapper, rapping about knishes from his home of Latveria. This oddly enough became a worldwide hit.
MF THING
Dr. Doom has that “we don’t talk about it, thats how much we don’t want to fight this guy” energy. Dude took over part of the world and every government was like “pfffffffffft finders keepers I guess, yall can try and take it back if you want but we aren’t gonna help”
Gotta love her Bruce just completely dodged becoming the Hulk in this reality.
That's a cool one. Plus I think Ben would be more accepting of it since he can change back.
Being the Hulk has its own problems though, doesn't the Hulk become sterile due to radiation and risk giving any woman he sleeps with cancer?
@@darkmask5933 don’t see how the rock thing can procreate ether
@@darkmask5933 Actually no, Hulk has in Hulk himself, has a kid, of course it was with an alien but knowing the fantastic four Ben would most likely meet aliens. So all and all much better ending for him.
@@darkmask5933…isn’t that Spider-Man ?
Can you do more dr. Doom stories I like him a lot
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Same. He’s such a cool villain and seems super interesting
This actually makes doom s lot scarier, because now doom just doesn't age, ever. With all the things he accomplished in his "lifespan," imagine him after 10,000 years.
Actually there’s a comic where in a distant future doom transferred his mind into a robot planet and became enemie of the distant future avengers, so yea lifespan never really was a problem for doom
@@lipepseneDr. Doom is Eternal!
This guy's honestly my favorite comic book youtuber, i fw his sensibilities
And he doesn't use AI voices!
Knowing how long the Thing can live, with the 1 week of being human a year. It seems like Doom is near immortal, and would see it as a blessing, despite not looking what he use to look like.
An improvement compared to how he looked in the main universe if you ask me
The one week a year thing was something given by the future foundation, it's not inherent to the thing,
Doom becomes the thing. Reed becomes The Maker. Susan becomes Khan the Conqueror. Johnny becomes Nhilus. Franklyn becomes the master of Galactus. Valeria.... isn't retconed out of existence
If I recall, there is a similar story where the Human Torch jumps through different dimensions. One where Doom is the Thing and the good guy. Another where the Cosmic Rays created a virus that wiped out all men. And one where Spider-Man was married to Sue and the leader of the FF.
Why do i love the name Dr thing
So Dr. Doom would then achieve his goal seeing as, if not killed, he's immortal and has everything he already had + the things strength. There's more of a villain there than he already was lol
Love the art style for this one. So expressive.
Love what if series. Do more!
Title seems a little backwards. It was more like the Thing became the Hulk and Dr. Doom became the Thing.
This is a cool story. Another great video. Huzzah!
Looks like Bruce in this What if, gets off the hook in being cursed with becoming the hulk.
why I love the what if series. clever ways to reimagine characters and events
And he later went on to create Operation Doomsday and changed his name into MF Doom
what ifs are so cool. it's such a shame how the mcu can't instead of avenger 99 and the lost tv remote of the couch we instead get this. if they refuse to develop the characters why not do alternative reboots
my man said Dr. Thing seven times in a row
Please include the comic runs where the stories are from. Thanks
This seems incredible!
Something about the image chosen for the thumbnail reminds me of how in the short lived run of Tmnt comics done by image Raphael ends up taking on the shredder mantle. Granted now the circumstances are a lot less what-iffy but hey, no helping where one’s brain tend to veer off towards.
the one thing that kinda bugs me about this story is how ben's intelligence got bumped way down
like the OG savage hulk's personality came from bruce's dissociative identity disorder, from all the abuse he suffered, making savage hulk just a childlike persona that wanted to be left alone, so i'm not really sure where it came from in ben's case
There is something absolutely hilarious seeing somebody behaving like Doctor Doom (In this situation, young Mr. Doom) while just looking like some dude.
I wonder what would happen if destiny didnt have to happen. All the characters are there, but their choices are all different. Enemies are different, rivals different. If anybody could get a power, anybody does get the power.
Man, I wanted a whole series right now
This is an exampal of a great what if comic
Doom cured the Thing in the past, so he should be able to cure himself if he wants.
Surprisingly a good story
I was expecting Ben to get dr. dooms powers
Where are from the comic book illustrations shown in this video, before the story starts??
I'm a fan of the phrase "really rude dude named Doom."
This sounds like a great story.
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Grimm Hulk vs Dr. Thing. I never thought I'd see the day. Hey then Bruce will finally get to marry Betty because he wouldn't be the Hulk.
This in my opinion would be an epic story to follow, just the epic stuff they'll do, and how the cosmic rays would've affected doom as well in the long run, it'd be epic as frick
The first what-if series had 2 stories where the F F didn't get any superpowers and another where they all had different ones. The second series had one where they all got the same powers.
The Doomthing
Comparing what far future Hulk stories are like versus far future Thing stories.. I think Ben's better off as the Thing
Actually its probably better. With his friends and family he probably has a far better time with the Hulk personas and as a member of the F4 there will be less of being an outcast and hunted.
Plus he can turn back to his normal looking self.
I guess more accurate to say “Doom became the thing”
Damn thats cazy
It’s embarrassing that the studios can’t get comic book movies right when they have so much good material to go through
What’s the comic called at 0.43?
Dr Doom Is The Thing.... YES 😌
It's cool and all but the Wold being introduced to FF and Hulk on the same day is bonkers. That's comics for ye I suppose :p
So, why was Ben at that Gamma test site to begin with? I thought he is a test pilot, not a scientist? Or did losing his BFF reinvigorate his scientific interest and he chose a different field of study?
Looking at his uniform, he was an MP. So it doesn't look like he ever made it into science
hey mullet man, could you make a video on black manta?
Is from the ultimate universe I watching rn
bro became mf doom
You look like doc ock
Better then the original 😄
ben would have been better as hulk then thing anyways
Imagine a far off future with both Ben and Victor as immortals and protecting the planet together.
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this... story basically means... there are two hulks? did this story totally forget that bruce ya know... still exists... and this by no means effects him not... already becoming the hulk.
Another Marvel What If... Series.
Wait, if in this story Doom becomes the Thing and Ben becomes the Hulk then what happens to Bruce?
I like to imagine that he becomes iron man and that Tony would die before becoming iron man.
Why can't/doesn't Franklin Richards turn the Thing back into his human form? I know this question is a bit more for the last Thing video, but why does he have to live a thousand years as the Thing instead of Franklin just making him a man? . . . other than Marvel not wanting to take away part of the Thing's struggle.
how would ben become the hulk? I thought banner was able to because of something in his dnd or else it would have killed him.
At least Bruce Banner gets a happy ending.
I need more Doom Thing in my life!
So Doom becomes the Thing, and Grimm becomes the Hulk. What happens to Banner? He gets bitten by a radioactive spider?
Dr thing
Reed and Ben look 40 going on 23
is it just me or do these characters have a creepy, "uncanny valley" look? I'm not familiar with this artist, but did their stuff always look like AI.??
i thought it said he turns into MF DOOM
Congratulations they switched the whole story. But ended up with a thing vs hulk match yet again. I geus it just comes down too plot armor.
Is every superhero in the Marvel Universe becoming Doctor Doom
Well, to be fair, it was still Doom
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Im not a feminist or nothing bit it seems like the crux of everything fantastic 4 disaster is most of the team/villian being in love with the invisible woman. These scientists needa start thinkin with their upper head
Dr. Thing?
The moment they broke into a foreign dignitaries kid room; the R.A dean of school and secret service would have expelled Reed & Ben Grimm...man I love the zany stuff comics had, just pure sci fi bullcrap! 😂
Huh??
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