How to record 4k 120p with Ninja V
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Today we'll learn how to unlock 120p using Atomos Ninja V with Canon cameras.
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This is such a perfectly simple solution that I'm embarrassed for myself having not thought of it. Thank you.
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very useful ! bardzo dobry, zwięzły i wizualnie super odcinek ! Czekamy na więcej !!
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so converting on a pc the clean h264 4k120p into prores is better and faster right? the hdmi output wont give clean output in 10bit or raw anyway.
Super simple! I love it. Thank you. Subscribed!
Hi Mateusz, @3:18 you've connected the SSD via a cable - which cable is that or do you have any recommendations?
One highly rated SSD to USB I found was maxed around 400 MBps (read speed) but I'm not sure if that affects performance while editing off of the SSD directly.
Great video, im using canon m50 with the ninja v but while recording my canon shut off sleep mode so i record with both canon and the ninja v but the red dot from the camara shows on the recording from the ninja v and the auto focus any advice
Great video! At what fps is the video being recorded when you record the screen? Thank you.
Thank you!! I’m using C70 with ninja v.
freaking genius man you rock
Can I do that with my Sony a7s mark i ?
Hi I am struggling to find any info about this, but when recording ProRes to the Ninja V from my Canon C70 I get quite bad banding. The image looks noticeably worse than the internal codec. Has anyone else experienced this?
Does the camera actually output 10-bit over HDMI when in playback mode? I contacted Canon support and they didn't know (lmao, how can they not know?) they said they would get back to me but they never did, this makes me believe it's not actually 10-bit. It's def a faster way to get a ProRes file that looks like a 120fps file but it's not actually a 120 fps file and it seems like it might not be in 10-bit either. Fast isn't always best.
This is a good question and I believe it would be, if it is in the menu on the Camera for that (like Sony that kets you have multiple codecs from 420 to 422). That said I would hope the camera is sending out the highest signal it can, I am going to read a bit about this, again great question.
Hi, Mateusz. Very nice video! Which are your Atomos Ninja V input, output and Record settings for BT.709 Wide DR Gamm/Color Space? Dziekuje!
Great Advice! Thanks Mateusz
man great workaround!
Genius tip, thx !
Why my recorded video with a ninja v+ playing to fast on my macbook pro
Great video!!
Loving the intro ! i'm also a canon C70 user 😁😁😁
me too
thanks great video, personally i m still deciding whether to buy c70 or bmpcc 6k pro, from your perspective it would be an advantage of the 6k pro that u can shoot all in prores natively except 6k?
In the case of ergonomics, I would definitely go with the c70. Prores is an important advantage but you can't use it with 6k so is not that useful anymore. With pocket 6k pro, you can't use a speed booster so you're cutting part of optics on a full-frame lens. C70 is more versatile for me with a 0.71x adapter and nd filters combo it's super convenient to work with. It depends on your budget but if you're able to afford it c70 is a better choice in my opinion.
@@mj.cutsense thank you for your response. actually have watched some YT videos since of people editing braw natively in premiere pro which is pretty good, even up to 6k - sure must be powerful machines but I think my one should be able to handle it tbh. although in most situations i would prefer prores still, maybe there ll be a prores raw firmware update some time. with your C70 whats your editing experience been like? ever had any playback issues? on any of the codecs? yea its true you do lose the full frame/bigger field of vision with 6k pro - though there is now an optical insert adapter by LucAdapters that will give you a near full frame field of view, worth investigating I suppose.
@@Patrick-jj5nh bmpcc6k pro has me filters.
I just got this unit and I’m very frustrated with the cropped borders. Can you explain how to get rid of the cropped borders when recording with this Ninja V
Good job Rask :) !
Can this be done on a7siii
Very GOOD JOB
Hi. what name on music in your video?
Great I heard what you said and I think I know what you mean but how do I do it step by step... I just bought my Ninja and Im still learning how to use it. Thanks
I would love to see a step by step explanation as well. I didn't quite get it.
We suspect that the Ninja 5 plus 8k doesn't entertain the bmpcc 6k & bmpcc 6k pro being upscaled to 8k. Sadly however the Ninja V+ (8k) doesn't appear to entertain Blackmagic's BRAW format at 8k and doesn't look to be upgraded with these additional features anytime soon such as in future models such as the Ninja VI plus! Unfortunately ProRes within this configurment is only restricted to 4k 120fps!
I would be happy to stand corrected whether this isn't entirely accurate, cheers!
Hi Mateusz, thanks for your nice Video! Did I get this right ? You record 120 p Footage in your Canon internaly and then you make a playback in the canon and at the same time you record with the ninja V ?
Yes exactly. It can definitely help when you only a few clips to transcode
@@mj.cutsense Hi, would be great to see the exact steps to achieve this. Thank you for the video.
This is a genius idea 💡
Legend! Also works using Blackmagic Video Assist and Nikon Z6
What is black magic video assist?
How to record 120fps? Settings, go here and there? I use Canon 1DX MKII with NinjaV, but I think the issue is the cable that I use.
Liked, subscribed and waiting for more content!
Pozdrooo
Thkx for you vision :)
Great solution for that!!
Why does my ninja V display a cropped output of my sony display screen in 60fps but is full screen 23.968 ?
Wow ❤️ powodzenia w rozwoju kanału 💪💪💪
Dziękuję! Tobie również powodzenia bo widzę wielki potencjał ❤️
@@mj.cutsense dziękuję 💖
Is the slow-motion generated in camera or is it native 120p footage you need to slow down to 24p in post? I have tried to transcode native 120p Prores and can't find a way to do it?
It's already slowed down to 25 or 24p. If you want to transcode your native files I recommend using Editready software. It's a very simple and convenient way if you have plenty of 120p shots.
@@mj.cutsense Thanks for lettin me know - I appreciate it. I'll def be lookin into that software as well!
@@mj.cutsense I just had a look and Editready is for windows only. Do you have any recommendations that are compatible with Windows 10?
@@camodam7987 Editready is on mac - I use it on my mac frequently - www.divergentmedia.com/editready
hmm, how you can do this with canon r6 if it doesnt record 4k 120p internally?
you can't.
Can the atomos record 4k on old camera or the cheap camera that doesn't support 4k?
Yes it's possible to record but only in few cameras. First generation Sony A7s is capable of doing that and its very cheap camera right now.
Hows the ninja v for monitor only? Without recording? I looked at the shinobi as well, but at times i may want to record in camera at 4k60p and my question is can this show on the shinobi? Or is it capped at 4k30p?
Depending on your money, I would personally choose to use SmallHD monitors over Ninja V. I'm in the process of making a film about my favorite monitor available right now. Although Shinobi is ok, there is only one option if you want the finest OS, colors, and experience.
Great tip. So simple, yet I wouldn't have thought of doing it that way.
Genius!!!
Thanks for the video. I just bought the Ninja V two days ago. Has anyone had a problem with the recorder over-heating? After 30 minutes, my Ninja V starts getting hot. Is this normal, or does it mean that something's wrong?
I have been using it for a couple years and no problem with overheating. I am using the Atomos branded batteries. Would that make a difference?
@@BrianSmithPlanetEarthDiver Thank you. I spoke to Atomos and they said that the unit does get hot, but usually doesn't overheat to the point of "not working". So, I'll try to relax when I feel it getting hot. Thanks.
@@BrianSmithPlanetEarthDiver Thank you. I spoke to Atomos and they said that the unit does get hot, but usually doesn't overheat to the point of "not working". So, I'll try to relax when I feel it getting hot. Thanks.
Not sure you’re still keeping this channel but I’ll give it a try . This is pretty slick work around but I find flaw with playing back the footage and ninja recording at the frame rate of 59.94 without option for changing to desired rate . My camera hdmi out it’s set to 2160 /24 fps but that doesn’t effect ninja . Changing to Raw out in camera doesn’t change anything , only thing changes is if I’ll go 1080 then shows on the recorder hd instead of uhd but the frame stays the same no matter what . I’ll appreciate any input
Without physically observing the issue, it is difficult to know, but the cable might be problem. Check if your HDMI cable supports 60p, for example, the original Atomos HDMI is compatible with 60p.
Very clever!
Curious if I can pull this off with my Sony a7siii? Will update!
Me too ! Waiting for your update !
Thank you for the tip!
@@MacBookBro1 Hi ! Just a question, what you are getting is a XAVC-S file converted to ProRes but it doesn't record the RAW signal ?
Exactly!
Sooo???
Does the C70 need a camera ninja v
Does the C70 camera need another device to record like ninja v
You don't need any additional device to record. Atomos is needed only when you want to work with ProRes codec.
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YES!!!!! this is how i shoot with my NINJA and R6 MK ii-
Hi. I am using the Ninja V+ with a C70 via HDMI 2.1 cable. I would like to record ProRes Raw 120fps directly onto the SSD of the Ninja. But it's just not working. Is it even possible? I don't have a proper SD in my C70 yet.
It's not possible because c70 outputs 10bit 4K 60p via HDMI. To get RAW signal you have to record internally.
@@mj.cutsense Thanks for the quick answer! What a bummer. Maybe if the C70 had SDI, it would have been possible.
Here is another strange behaviour I am seen. I can only get the Ninja up to 50p. No matter which codec. Any idea why?
@@MrExel47 The C70 can only go so far through HDMI. It is capable only up to 4K 50/60p. This is a topic I cover in my video.
Hi, nice presentation! 👍 When I look at the specifications on the Ninja it doesn’t say it can record 4K 120. Is this a new update? Thanks 😊
ok it was not easy for me to understand but it's playing back on normal frame rate. So you record at 120 internally, then you playback with the camera, already slowdown to 24fps and the ninja just record a 24fps video I guess.
What’s the name of the instrumental in the background at 2:33 secs
Innotic beats - The Changing World
Ha! Does it play back in 10 bit in slomo? I don`t think so
It's a 10 bit file so of course it should playback 10 bit.
@@fostervf16 Does the playback output 10-bit 4:2:2 over HDMI? Not so sure about that. It could just as easily be 8-bit 4:2:0. It's only meant to be a quick way to show what you've recorded on a TV or a external monitor. It could be 10-bit 4:2:2 but it doesn't have to be. Nowhere in the manual does it say what it outputs over HDMI when in playback mode.
Slick trick
Doesn't seem to with the the Canon R5
When the Atomos is connected, I can't find out how to start any Playback in the R5. I guess I tried every setting. So most probably it won't work with the R5.
Sorry, was wrong, it works also with the R5. You can playback the 120fps in the Canon and then record this in the Atomos Ninja V
What do you mean that?! Play 120 fps footage on your camera and record 60fps prores on Ninja V? Does it make sense?
I dont understand it. You record the files from intern ssd with 120 fps with Ninja. Tried this, getting no 120 fps
Not an SSD, but an SD card is being used to record. The final file is 25p which is 4x slower, because it has already been slowed down in camera. It's quite simple.
This does not work on Canon R5. Will try on C70
I zoned out for a bit near the end and missed the whole point of this video. What makes this 120?
Honestly same. I get recording clean feed but what makes it 120?
I guess that camera shows 120p footage slowed down so you can capture that slow motion already interpolated
@@MediaKeller yeah, it's not a bad idea, you can always speed it up, the issue is slowing down, also you'll still have the original 120p in camera codec.
@@marekmucha2300 Exactly what I thought, you don't get the RAW signal recorded so what's the point, it's just converting a file to prores which you could do in your computer anyways.
@@arnie9913 the point he is making is that it is easier to have it all on the same drive and in the same spot for easier editing. Faster workflow. Took me some rewinding to understand this.
When is your next video!
If anyone awaits is wonderful. Soon, I'll be back with lots more vids!
How do you shoot 120fps?
He shoots it internally on the camera. They during playback from the camera he records the playback on the ninja.
2:49 Play your files in-camera & record that image with Ninja
yes all this nonsensical video and misleading title for that. Talks a whole lot about saving time and bla bla bla then you have to triple the efforts and time to get this 😂 joke
120 fr/s ????????
Yeah dude but HOW??
I’m a bit confused. Dies this mean that if my camera only goes up to 4k 60 that if you record to the ATOMOS I can get 4k 120?
no, if your camera only does 4K 60fps then all you can get is 4K 60fps. The Atomos Ninja V can't change anything about your camera. His camera (Canon C70) can already record 4K 120fps and then he plays that back in camera in slowmotion already which the Atomos Ninja V can record. It won't be full 10-bit or a true 120fps recording either, it will only look like one. It's a faster way but not a better way. Transcoding the footage properly is a lot better than doing this because you won't get a 10-bit 120fps file but a 8-bit 24fps (or 25fps) file. Anyhow, you can't get 120fps using the Ninja V if your camera can't do 120fps.
@@skrotfiske thanks for the deeper explanation.
@@skrotfiske to po co zrobili dużo droźszego ninja v+ ? Właśnie pod 120p w 4K
@@dyzioarts3132 because the original Atomos can't record 4K 120fps even if your camera can record and or output that over HDMI. The Ninja V+ however can record 4K 120fps (only in RAW and basically only over SDI as of now though)
Reading through these comments makes me realize why there's such a huge disconnect in the world. So many people lack basic comprehension then try and regurgitate what they thought they understood🤦🏾♂️😵💫
With the way you explain this video. That's mean if I record 120fps from c70 and record 60fps from Ninja V. I will have a 240fps at 4K??? I think you dont understand that when you record your playback is mean you record the file which contained to H.264/H.265, not the signal from the sensor. So you can't get the better image quality than the file which you record in the body.
I think you didn't understand at all. There is no single word about better quality or multiplication of framerates. C70 sends interpreted 25p signal via HDMI. Firstly, the signal is compressed to long-GOP, which means you only transcode the file to a more friendly codec. You should listen carefully and don't draw poisonous conclusions.
C70 🤤🤤🤤
Bestia, ale jak każdy sprzęt ma swoje wady 😅
@@mj.cutsense no to czekam na recenzje 😃 bo poki co mialem nadzieje, ze jak mam kupic kamere to wlasnie myslalem nad nia ;P
@@jordanjk Z pewnością recenzja się pojawi!
to take your trousers off to fart
it's not ninja v, it's ninja 5
Its Nija 5 V is roman numeric for 5 ,.. Its Nija five not V
Misleading title! 👎
Could you tell me where this is misleading? The final result of this video is having 120p file on your Atomos recorder.
@@mj.cutsense you are not recording a 120fps stream. you are recording a 24/25/30 fps playback depending on setting. same (and probably worst as canon doesn't specify the hdmi playback settings) as transcode in post.
@@kaotic2007 Yes, and I made sure to label it very clearly. It's the same as shooting in 120p S&Q, which the camera interprets as 25p. You cannot name it differently because it is 4 times slower than native 25p.
Bad move on the clickbait title. Good video, however I gave your algo the thumbs down -trust is earned.
So you double your work (and then double your time again) to record and re-record the footage? what a joke and misleading title. Thumbs down from me my dude 👎