Even Palpatine states in the Obi Wan show "Perhaps your feelings for your old master have left you weakened if your past cannot be overcome". That's why he lost he was conflicted. This is Hayden talking about Vader "Vader is trying his best to kill off that side of him, but there always has to be a little bit of Anakin in there. And that presents itself, and that's a part of the fun. I'm always thinking about the Anakin aspect of this character." "You know, this is the first time we've seen Vader sort of chronologically this close to the Anakin Skywalker character, so there are some indications of Anakin in there" Dave Filoni : “He takes his first step into a larger world. So I thought it created an interesting space and an interesting opportunity to have him be a part of helping Ahsoka out of her situation with Darth Vader. You needed something implausible to make it plausible that she could escape Vader, otherwise Vader is going to destroy her. There was no doubt in my mind.” Dave Filoni: One on one could Anakin Skywalker beat Ahsoka. Yea. Absolutely because he taught her." [m.czcams.com/video/1PAOPveZtoE/video.html] Anakin/Vader is a better Dualist than Obi Wan ,Ahsoka Starkiller Mace Windu and Luke. [m.czcams.com/video/gDaM4qd9XW0/video.html] Sam Witwer: During force unleashed he cuts off Vaders hand and captures him. I'm not comfortable showing everything we discussed but that was the biggest mistake ever and that Vader was like toying with Luke that the force unleashed 1 and 2 games were all about Vader toying with Starkiller and at some point there would be a confrontation where Starkiller's fighting Vader and everything that worked before is not working now. I cut off your hand (Starkiller) but that wasn't my hand I have no hand(Vader) Starkiller is fighting (how are you doing this?) then Vader answers simply with whatever the line of first Star Script which is i'm Lord Vader dark lord of the Sith something along the lines of the end of that conversation. Starkiller is no match for this guy." "Yeah, Id (Mace) have him just under Anakin and Yoda but Palpatine is on a whole other level" interview by star ways theory, stunt coordinator ROTS Nick Gillard. [m.czcams.com/video/wtTjZtqvkic/video.html] He was conflicted with Luke too that's why he lost. “Such a foolish error of judgment. A momentary lapse in an otherwise exemplary life. Had Lord Vader not succumbed to emotion at the crucial moment - had the father killed the son - the Empire would have prevailed. And there would be no threat of Skywalker’s return today.” Snoke The Force Awakens novelization George Lucas even said Vader is powerful than Luke. [m.czcams.com/video/gYao-_Day9c/video.html]
Even Palpatine states in the Obi Wan show "Perhaps your feelings for your old master have left you weakened if your past cannot be overcome". That's why he lost he was conflicted. This is Hayden talking about Vader "Vader is trying his best to kill off that side of him, but there always has to be a little bit of Anakin in there. And that presents itself, and that's a part of the fun. I'm always thinking about the Anakin aspect of this character." "You know, this is the first time we've seen Vader sort of chronologically this close to the Anakin Skywalker character, so there are some indications of Anakin in there" Dave Filoni : “He takes his first step into a larger world. So I thought it created an interesting space and an interesting opportunity to have him be a part of helping Ahsoka out of her situation with Darth Vader. You needed something implausible to make it plausible that she could escape Vader, otherwise Vader is going to destroy her. There was no doubt in my mind.” Dave Filoni: One on one could Anakin Skywalker beat Ahsoka. Yea. Absolutely because he taught her." [m.czcams.com/video/1PAOPveZtoE/video.html] Anakin/Vader is a better Dualist than Obi Wan ,Ahsoka Starkiller Mace Windu and Luke. [m.czcams.com/video/gDaM4qd9XW0/video.html] Sam Witwer: During force unleashed he cuts off Vaders hand and captures him. I'm not comfortable showing everything we discussed but that was the biggest mistake ever and that Vader was like toying with Luke that the force unleashed 1 and 2 games were all about Vader toying with Starkiller and at some point there would be a confrontation where Starkiller's fighting Vader and everything that worked before is not working now. I cut off your hand (Starkiller) but that wasn't my hand I have no hand(Vader) Starkiller is fighting (how are you doing this?) then Vader answers simply with whatever the line of first Star Script which is i'm Lord Vader dark lord of the Sith something along the lines of the end of that conversation. Starkiller is no match for this guy." "Yeah, Id (Mace) have him just under Anakin and Yoda but Palpatine is on a whole other level" interview by star ways theory, stunt coordinator ROTS Nick Gillard. [m.czcams.com/video/wtTjZtqvkic/video.html] He was conflicted with Luke too that's why he lost. “Such a foolish error of judgment. A momentary lapse in an otherwise exemplary life. Had Lord Vader not succumbed to emotion at the crucial moment - had the father killed the son - the Empire would have prevailed. And there would be no threat of Skywalker’s return today.” Snoke The Force Awakens novelization George Lucas even said Vader is powerful than Luke. [m.czcams.com/video/gYao-_Day9c/video.html]
@@Liberates Yes actually Or are you completely ignorant of the fact that these characters live completely different cannons? Star killer exists Thankfully only in legends Where force users are much more powerful than they are in the pathetic Disney canon. Ashoka's feats Are not very impressive at all compared to everything Starkiller has done. He rag-dolls his rule 63'd counterpart into oblivion.
Luminara vs Aayla Secura Cadbane vs Thrawn Barriss Offee vs Talon Barriss Offee vs Ahsoka Cody vs Fives Anakin(Full Potential) vs Revan(Reborn) Luke(Legends) Vs Revan(Reborn) Abeloth vs Plagueis Obi Wan vs Mace Windu vs Plo Koon Here’s some suggestions. 😏
Starkiller wins any day of the week. He is too overpowered, but I still enjoy Starkiller as a character even more than Ahsoka. I wish they made him canon, but not a watered-down version of Starkiller. That would be awesome, in my opinion.
@@cyridy7028 ahsoka was also trained by anakin and fought people like Ventress grievous and maul when she was basically a padawan. She also no diffed an inquisitor without a lightsaber and bullied those two inquisitors in rebels. She also managed to put up a pretty good fight against Vader in rebels, but Starkiller definitely wins
@@solalgreatman i think skill would go to starliller because he is very in tune with the force. Making his own moves, expert duelist, and his manipulation of force lighting puts him above in skill. Experience I'll give to Ashoka, sista was probably 30 when galen was 17😂. Mans was seeing alot for such a young age.
@@livinglegend9709 ahsoka fought opponents like ventress and maul when she was still a padawan and when she spent a year away from the temple never touching her lightsabers during that time period was able to beat maul. (Yes maul was holding back but you gotta remember ahsoka was a padawan who had spent a year away from the temple not touching her lightsabers) and she managed to put up a good fight against a Vader who Filoni confirmed wasn’t holding back
@@solalgreatmanGood point. Though same applied to Galen vs Vader, who Vader was pretty much going all out. The novel stated this. I think his feat against Sidious outclasses all feats Ahsoka has. This is Starkiller we’re talking about, though (the clone). He’s pretty much the same as Galen, if not, just *marginally* stronger. Can’t say for sure.
Dueling goes to ausoka but ultimately gaelik wins just for being a freak of nature . She's out classes him in her prime in every way except power and force ability. The both have beaten vader Darkside users powrrful droids, bounty hunters pirates and monsters . Ahsoka has beates darth maul which most people couldnt do by there self and alot would suggest she could take on sideous , and of course star killer has taken on sideous .
Subject 1138 was more, if not, likely equal to Galen. Galen pretty much jumped on Vader both game and in novelisation. It was stated in the novel Palps had to actually try when he was using force lightning against Galen, who was tanking it. When he defeated him, he felt like he was stronger in the dark side. That’s when you realised Galen was pretty much a powerhouse on his own. I’m sure if pitting Maul against Galen would have the same outcome (in fact, would be a lot quicker compared to Ahsoka vs Maul) same goes for pitting Starkiller against Maul (game actually had you fighting Maul but that’s just Galen’s training droid mimicking him so we don’t really count that, ig)
Nah speed goes to Ashoka she fights using speed and agility she seems to be the fastest character in CW aswell, but in terms of combat speed starkiller takes the point even so Ashoke is a better character in my opinion as she isn't overpowerd. She has certainly amazing skills able to dominate most people in a fight also I beleive she has better strenght than mando as she was able to body cad bane early on in the show, But I'm not being biast as starkiller would overpower her in a battle at the end as his force abillities are too much.
didnt ahsoka duel vader and make his mask half off i think dueling goes to ahsoka and she took on 2 inquisitors at the same time and even survived order 66 and she has more experience
Galen did the same, in fact a lot worse than Ahsoka did to him. Plus, Ahsoka’s attack was a surprise attack. Galen was just constant direct attacks. Inquisitors don’t really mean much when Galen took on a Jedi master on his own. I think that was his second mission or something? It was against Shaak Ti, that’s for sure (we can kind of count General Kota in the first mission but lol) Galen mastered all forms. He just preferred his weird edgy style form. He takes the dueling.
@@Development1092 bro literally beat vader twice and matched sidious in power, put a whole star destroyer down, ahsoka would never ever come close to that
He's literally over powered
Defense goes to Starkiller. He was able to block TFU Sidious’s lightning, while Ahsoka had trouble with Rebels Sidious’s fire.
game conventions, without which he would not have defeated Vader.
@@user-zr9kh5ev2b Wrong. TFU has a novel and comic in which Starkiller also beat Vader and matched Sidious.
@@rsxmaster Prime Sidious > Prime Vader > Pre-Prime Sidious > Novel Starkiller > Pre-Prime Vader > Game Starkiller
Cope Starkiller wanker
@RedSithMaster wrong too.
Even Palpatine states in the Obi Wan show "Perhaps your feelings for your old master have left you weakened if your past cannot be overcome". That's why he lost he was conflicted.
This is Hayden talking about Vader "Vader is trying his best to kill off that side of him, but there always has to be a little bit of Anakin in there. And that presents itself, and that's a part of the fun. I'm always thinking about the Anakin aspect of this character." "You know, this is the first time we've seen Vader sort of chronologically this close to the Anakin Skywalker character, so there are some indications of Anakin in there"
Dave Filoni : “He takes his first step into a larger world. So I thought it created an interesting space and an interesting opportunity to have him be a part of helping Ahsoka out of her situation with Darth Vader. You needed something implausible to make it plausible that she could escape Vader, otherwise Vader is going to destroy her. There was no doubt in my mind.”
Dave Filoni: One on one could Anakin Skywalker beat Ahsoka. Yea. Absolutely because he taught her."
[m.czcams.com/video/1PAOPveZtoE/video.html] Anakin/Vader is a better Dualist than Obi Wan ,Ahsoka Starkiller Mace Windu and Luke.
[m.czcams.com/video/gDaM4qd9XW0/video.html]
Sam Witwer: During force unleashed he cuts off Vaders hand and captures him. I'm not comfortable showing everything we discussed but that was the biggest mistake ever and that Vader was like toying with Luke that the force unleashed 1 and 2 games were all about Vader toying with Starkiller and at some point there would be a confrontation where Starkiller's fighting Vader and everything that worked before is not working now. I cut off your hand (Starkiller) but that wasn't my hand I have no hand(Vader) Starkiller is fighting (how are you doing this?) then Vader answers simply with whatever the line of first Star Script which is i'm Lord Vader dark lord of the Sith something along the lines of the end of that conversation. Starkiller is no match for this guy."
"Yeah, Id (Mace) have him just under Anakin and Yoda but Palpatine is on a whole other level" interview by star ways theory, stunt coordinator ROTS Nick Gillard. [m.czcams.com/video/wtTjZtqvkic/video.html]
He was conflicted with Luke too that's why he lost.
“Such a foolish error of judgment. A momentary lapse in an otherwise exemplary life. Had Lord Vader not succumbed to emotion at the crucial moment - had the father killed the son - the Empire would have prevailed. And there would be no threat of Skywalker’s return today.”
Snoke
The Force Awakens novelization
George Lucas even said Vader is powerful than Luke.
[m.czcams.com/video/gYao-_Day9c/video.html]
Galen marek the G.O.A.T
Exactly why he can’t be canon without nerfing him
Finally someone not underestimating Galen Marek
Skill goes to Starkiller too
He wins low diff, since he has beaten Vader like mid-high diff in TFU, Ahsoka is nothing in comparaison
No
Even Palpatine states in the Obi Wan show "Perhaps your feelings for your old master have left you weakened if your past cannot be overcome". That's why he lost he was conflicted.
This is Hayden talking about Vader "Vader is trying his best to kill off that side of him, but there always has to be a little bit of Anakin in there. And that presents itself, and that's a part of the fun. I'm always thinking about the Anakin aspect of this character." "You know, this is the first time we've seen Vader sort of chronologically this close to the Anakin Skywalker character, so there are some indications of Anakin in there"
Dave Filoni : “He takes his first step into a larger world. So I thought it created an interesting space and an interesting opportunity to have him be a part of helping Ahsoka out of her situation with Darth Vader. You needed something implausible to make it plausible that she could escape Vader, otherwise Vader is going to destroy her. There was no doubt in my mind.”
Dave Filoni: One on one could Anakin Skywalker beat Ahsoka. Yea. Absolutely because he taught her."
[m.czcams.com/video/1PAOPveZtoE/video.html] Anakin/Vader is a better Dualist than Obi Wan ,Ahsoka Starkiller Mace Windu and Luke.
[m.czcams.com/video/gDaM4qd9XW0/video.html]
Sam Witwer: During force unleashed he cuts off Vaders hand and captures him. I'm not comfortable showing everything we discussed but that was the biggest mistake ever and that Vader was like toying with Luke that the force unleashed 1 and 2 games were all about Vader toying with Starkiller and at some point there would be a confrontation where Starkiller's fighting Vader and everything that worked before is not working now. I cut off your hand (Starkiller) but that wasn't my hand I have no hand(Vader) Starkiller is fighting (how are you doing this?) then Vader answers simply with whatever the line of first Star Script which is i'm Lord Vader dark lord of the Sith something along the lines of the end of that conversation. Starkiller is no match for this guy."
"Yeah, Id (Mace) have him just under Anakin and Yoda but Palpatine is on a whole other level" interview by star ways theory, stunt coordinator ROTS Nick Gillard. [m.czcams.com/video/wtTjZtqvkic/video.html]
He was conflicted with Luke too that's why he lost.
“Such a foolish error of judgment. A momentary lapse in an otherwise exemplary life. Had Lord Vader not succumbed to emotion at the crucial moment - had the father killed the son - the Empire would have prevailed. And there would be no threat of Skywalker’s return today.”
Snoke
The Force Awakens novelization
George Lucas even said Vader is powerful than Luke.
[m.czcams.com/video/gYao-_Day9c/video.html]
@@Liberates Yes actually Or are you completely ignorant of the fact that these characters live completely different cannons? Star killer exists Thankfully only in legends Where force users are much more powerful than they are in the pathetic Disney canon. Ashoka's feats Are not very impressive at all compared to everything Starkiller has done. He rag-dolls his rule 63'd counterpart into oblivion.
Luminara vs Aayla Secura
Cadbane vs Thrawn
Barriss Offee vs Talon
Barriss Offee vs Ahsoka
Cody vs Fives
Anakin(Full Potential) vs Revan(Reborn)
Luke(Legends) Vs Revan(Reborn)
Abeloth vs Plagueis
Obi Wan vs Mace Windu vs Plo Koon
Here’s some suggestions. 😏
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Starkiller wins any day of the week. He is too overpowered, but I still enjoy Starkiller as a character even more than Ahsoka. I wish they made him canon, but not a watered-down version of Starkiller. That would be awesome, in my opinion.
Yes nice edit
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Starkiller is older if we are using that ahsoka so experience goes to starkiller
Starkiller isn't older... by the time Vader finds Galen Marek, he is a child; which Ahsoka which was already an adult during.
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Ahsoka is more skilled, smarter and experienced but Galens raw power in the force would help him
Galen was trained by Vader probably has more skill and is smarter
@@cyridy7028 ahsoka was also trained by anakin and fought people like Ventress grievous and maul when she was basically a padawan. She also no diffed an inquisitor without a lightsaber and bullied those two inquisitors in rebels. She also managed to put up a pretty good fight against Vader in rebels, but Starkiller definitely wins
@@solalgreatman i think skill would go to starliller because he is very in tune with the force. Making his own moves, expert duelist, and his manipulation of force lighting puts him above in skill. Experience I'll give to Ashoka, sista was probably 30 when galen was 17😂. Mans was seeing alot for such a young age.
@@livinglegend9709 ahsoka fought opponents like ventress and maul when she was still a padawan and when she spent a year away from the temple never touching her lightsabers during that time period was able to beat maul. (Yes maul was holding back but you gotta remember ahsoka was a padawan who had spent a year away from the temple not touching her lightsabers) and she managed to put up a good fight against a Vader who Filoni confirmed wasn’t holding back
@@solalgreatmanGood point. Though same applied to Galen vs Vader, who Vader was pretty much going all out. The novel stated this. I think his feat against Sidious outclasses all feats Ahsoka has.
This is Starkiller we’re talking about, though (the clone). He’s pretty much the same as Galen, if not, just *marginally* stronger. Can’t say for sure.
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Dueling goes to ausoka but ultimately gaelik wins just for being a freak of nature . She's out classes him in her prime in every way except power and force ability. The both have beaten vader Darkside users powrrful droids, bounty hunters pirates and monsters . Ahsoka has beates darth maul which most people couldnt do by there self and alot would suggest she could take on sideous , and of course star killer has taken on sideous .
Subject 1138 was more, if not, likely equal to Galen. Galen pretty much jumped on Vader both game and in novelisation. It was stated in the novel Palps had to actually try when he was using force lightning against Galen, who was tanking it.
When he defeated him, he felt like he was stronger in the dark side. That’s when you realised Galen was pretty much a powerhouse on his own.
I’m sure if pitting Maul against Galen would have the same outcome (in fact, would be a lot quicker compared to Ahsoka vs Maul) same goes for pitting Starkiller against Maul (game actually had you fighting Maul but that’s just Galen’s training droid mimicking him so we don’t really count that, ig)
Bro Galen beated maul Vader and palpatine wym
Nah speed goes to Ashoka she fights using speed and agility she seems to be the fastest character in CW aswell, but in terms of combat speed starkiller takes the point even so Ashoke is a better character in my opinion as she isn't overpowerd.
She has certainly amazing skills able to dominate most people in a fight also I beleive she has better strenght than mando as she was able to body cad bane early on in the show,
But I'm not being biast as starkiller would overpower her in a battle at the end as his force abillities are too much.
didnt ahsoka duel vader and make his mask half off i think dueling goes to ahsoka and she took on 2 inquisitors at the same time and even survived order 66 and she has more experience
Galen did the same, in fact a lot worse than Ahsoka did to him. Plus, Ahsoka’s attack was a surprise attack. Galen was just constant direct attacks.
Inquisitors don’t really mean much when Galen took on a Jedi master on his own. I think that was his second mission or something? It was against Shaak Ti, that’s for sure (we can kind of count General Kota in the first mission but lol)
Galen mastered all forms. He just preferred his weird edgy style form. He takes the dueling.
If this is game starkiller W but novel L.
Nah any version of starkiller beats ahsoka
@@hellothere-bx8cf no actually
@@Development1092 u saying ahsoka beats starkiller💀😭
@@Development1092 bro literally beat vader twice and matched sidious in power, put a whole star destroyer down, ahsoka would never ever come close to that
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