Cal Kestis VS Starkiller
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- čas přidán 21. 05. 2023
- Star Wars Jedi Survivor is an amazing game so far. They Did a really good job too with fleshing out Cal Kestis character. But have you play Star Wars The Force Unleashed at all? Starkiller, the main character of that game is EASILY 10/10. Makes me wonder who would win in a fight between the 2 characters?
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I love starkiller and I think he’s an amazing character but cal kestis is also a very well written character that doesn’t get the love he deserved. I really like that cal isn’t the most powerful or the most dangerous character in Star Wars but instead he’s grounded.
But in a fight starkiller stomps.
fr, even if it's the clone he still bodies the shit out of cal
@@bobono I'm pretty sure the clone is more powerful than the actual one
@@demonshadowx212Doesn't each clone get stronger?
@@bobono True but they will likely be making a third game with Cal turning to darkside
more and getting new abilities he'll probably be a monster by the end. still not on starkiller
level but could probably hold his own or put up a fight at least.
@@namelessvoid9725 I could see that but he wouldn’t go total darkside he might end up being more like mace windu or Ashoka or a bit of both as in he can use his anger and aggression in a fight to channel the force but he won’t completely succumb to it as in like mace like ability channeling the darkside to gain the upper hand
I attribute starkillers journey to basically the inverse of anakin
Like if he started out learning from the Sith instead of going with the Jedi and then shifting sides through his experiences
this, this right here.... He started out training under a sith and by the end of the second game he was a jedi... reminds me of the arcann plot in swtor. started out as a "sith" but you could redeem him.
Ironically the Sith that trained him was Anakin
pretty sure that's literally why they created him as a character
Not just that, Anakin turned to the darkside out of desperation knowing his dark deeds would be dastardly evil. Starkiller was a Sith who turned to the Lightside out of REVENGE for his master betraying him slowly learning how evil he was.
@@shoyupacket5572 yep, starkiller is a combination and inverse of luke and anakin's journey's. its all in the dev lets play with sam witwer aka starkiller on his channel
Rayvis’ species is made entirely out of regenerative tentacles from the neck down, nearly unkillable. That’s why he’s been tanking stuff all game. It’s also why he needs the suit, to give himself a form where he can actually get around in battle.
He kinda reminds he of Vilgax from Ben 10, since they kinda built similarly
@@JDWalker495 I don’t know who or what that is but I trust you on it
Tbh it took me until this game to know these guys had a face Xd.
I always thought of them as more of a collective entity like the hunters in halo
@@Sarge327 look it up
@@demonshadowx212 I’m good
Everytime a Jedi Survivor episode ends I’m upset. I NEED MORE
this shit is ELECTRIC
Fr
Just play the game yourself. Or follow me on Twitch
@@advocate_of_HAKAI No
@@advocate_of_HAKAI naw its different when afro plays
Starkiller stomps no comp 😂
I wouldn’t say no competition but yea Cal would get deleted
starkiller neg diff cal
yeah I bet hes having the time of his life “stomping” in legends.
100 percent if theyd wanna make starkiller canon they gotta nerf him
@@Yea1maGamer Dude Cal needs to 2V1 Gera. Gera has been imprisoned for hundreds of years. Aging while losing muscle memory for his saber skills, and he lost an arm due to a backstab(slash really). He never gets a mechanical arm for some reason.
Seeing Afro activate god mode at 19:38 was the best character development of the whole series
Oh man if Afro is this far into the game I’m already imagining his reaction once he reaches THE NEXT part of the game
Bro I was thinking the same thing I don’t think Afro is ready bro just finished the game yesterday it was nuts
Afro gonna freakout when he learns that 🤥 betrays him and is a hidden 🤭. And when 🫨 fights 🫥 in the Base, hes gonna completely lose it.
@@Misantroph0_Twitter bro stfu he would have no idea someone gon betray him unless he read this ur sped
Starkiller is obviously super OP and more fun to play than Cal but Cal is a better character to me. I also love how he gradually grows stronger over the course of these games, he starts off as a Padawan with a broken connection to the force and now look at him, fighting against a former Jedi Master
One of the best jedis in the orders PRIME
A slight tier below Yoda and porter angle
Nah. Too weak for me
@@soloamaro5605 he won't
@@soloamaro5605 starkiller has way too many cheese feats
I used to have Force Unleashed on the Wii and it went SO UNBELIEVABLY HARD. You could use the Wii remote motion to use the force. They need to make more stuff like that nowadays.
The wii version of the game is actually different from the pc/xbox/ps version. Built separately from the same script.
I have both and I was surprised how their were more in the wii version than in the ps3 and x box not counting dlc but like in terms of the main story on the wii there was more to do and play more mission like fighting other bounty hunters to fighting darth deslous under the temple of corasaunt and the force abilities were more fun especially malestorm I can't tell you how much I spammed that move 😂 It was just so cool and also different lightsaber hilts
But x box ps3 has none of that which made it very disappointing I'd prefer the wii version
@@SONGOPAC I completely disagree, I think the wii version plays like ass, none of the controls are 100% reliable and the combat somehow feels more repetitive than the ps3 version with less overall skills. Dunno what it is, but I think Nintendo dropped the wii for a reason lol.
@@samuelradley1625 interesting, I discovered, played, and replayed both games on the wii many times as a child because of how raw I thought it was. I didn’t even know there were other console versions of it back then, lol. My favorite scene(and I’m glad he put it in the video) is the section at the beginning of the second game where he jumps through the gap in the wall to escape and falls through the atmosphere destroying anything in his path and then slams down onto the ground beautifully creating a large shockwave that annihilates the surrounding stormtroopers. Every once in a blue moon I’ll go back and check that scene again while hoping that news of a third game has arrived, but that’ll probably never happen, haha.
I really love how Dagan is using the force to swing his 2nd lightsaber like he has his arm still
I already know that Afro is going to love the last parts of this game
Rayvis is a Gen'Dai, their species are like a mass of tentacles in human shape and they’re known for their incredible regeneration. Just look at how OP Durge is in the Clone Wars 2003 mini-series
True Star Wars OG; My respects. The fact they did this was pretty fuckin cool!
Starkiller seems like the most OC someone has ever OCed, which makes him cool as heck.
Seeing Afro not struggle on a boss is a beautiful thing to see
That jump over the hammer in the first 2 seconds is clean as hell
Its crazy that Cal casually out here dropping the hard R
A zanny fan I see.
Cal is definitely a new version of Kyle Katarn from the Jedi Academy games. I see more of those games influence on this than the force unleashed.
Always looking forward to your uploads always makes my day better, keep up the good work
Can't really compare them. The entire point of force unleashed is to feel as powerful as possible. If they made starkiller canon now he wouldn't be nearly as strong. Still love both series, and sad we never got force unleashed 3
One of my favorite things about Force Unleashed 2 were the different lightsaber effects like Corrosion etc its a feature that would be great to implement with the workbench
The big differences between Starkiller and Cal is their training. Cal was very much trained as a Jedi, restraint when applicable, discipline in combat, etc.. But Galen Marek (Starkiller) was basically taught to just be a hand grenade. Go in, hold nothing back and just explode, collateral damage be damned. In the novels for the games, Starkiller nearly ripped himself apart with his own force abilities because he just didn't regulate them ever. If Cal could keep his cool, that could be a decent fight where the outcome isn't necessarily certain. But if Cal loses focus for even a second, Starkiller would wipe him out of existence.
Dude starkiller is way stronger and faster has has way better feats
@@reggielacey2235 and Darth Vader was way stronger than Luke, but look who won at the end of episode 6.
@@commanderpoes8195 We all know why he lost to Luke cmon now 🤣 starkiller solos
@@JUSTLJ_ There's multiple examples of people in Star Wars beating others stronger than them. When Anakin and Obi-Wan dueled on Mustafar, Anakin was way stronger than Obi-Wan and had that gap widening throughout the entire fight. Obi-wan won because he managed to throw Anakin off and get him to overextend himself. Hence why I said "if Cal can keep his cool". Starkiller has been shown to be easily thrown off by his emotions in both games with one of the endings literally being him getting killed for it. He may be strong, but he's not invincible. Especially since I also pointed out that Starkiller going all out can literally tear himself apart. The win isn't as easy as you think it is. People just think Starkiller's cooler so they just say he'd win and leave it at that.
Starkiller has a better control of his ability’s and has more hax that’s why people says that about him he just out right curb stomps cal.
Main problem with Starkiller being canon again is more of a narrative issue than a problem of people wanting it. He's so strong any situation you put him in loses suspense cuz you know how it'll end and the Inquisitors would be even more redundant than they already are.
They'd just nerf him to hell lmao. That's why I'm nervous about them making revan canon(just the character), they're gonna make him fodder
No it's not, starkiller from the game isn't canon, only the official novelization they had of the games are considered canon.. and in those he isn't nearly as op as in the games.
The inquisitors weren't really a thing when the first game came out, so you're right, he makes them redundant, which is good in my opinion because they were never that cool to begin with.
@@fr3dhunndo847 those rnt canon either
@@fr3dhunndo847 people tend to forget about the novelization
Videos like this is the reason Afro one of the best. Any gamer will appreciate this content.
Love the Star Wars content afro. Also I’ll never forget playing the force unleashed and when starkiller pulled that empire ship out of the sky.
That cover art is dope as hell, I'm ngl
Fun fact: if you hold force pull on a security droid and light attack, you literally crush them
I’ve been checking CZcams all day for this!
Oh i was waiting FOR THIS YURRRRRR.
You can use the force slam/lift against force enemies too. Very helpful in endgame fights
Very intriguing watch from the big man himself I'll have to rate this one a 9.7895/10
I love going back through these games
I could watch this every day for the rest of my life lol you're so entertaining. Love the content brethren
As a blaster and dual wield main, im having such a proud moment. This is the way. Pro tip: (After unlocking 'Agile Strike' for single saber stance L1 + square.) You can saber throw while dual wielding and still do the agile strike. Crazy Powerful combo, but requires alot of force meter. Satisfying AF to pull off tho.
The fact that you beat Dagen first try amazed me. I know he’s probably not considered a hard boss to some people but I STRUGGLED beating him on grandmaster. Well done man
My bad. Forgot he died once. Regardless, this was still impressive
Yoooooooo this man! Just ATE that Dagan Gera Special!!!!👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
Yo that last part was straight fire, you just started scraping with em, bro didn't miss
Oh my God that was amazing he just became him at that moment.
Thumbnail Fire as usual 🔥
afro back at it again wit a banger
Ain’t no way you left it on a cliff hanger like that man you teasing me I’m trying to watch you fully play it but you tuggin my heart strings😭
Ngl I actually liked rayvis. Kinda wish we got to see more of em
Nah the way this episode ended was fire I can't even be mad 😂
That battle at the end was fire bro.
Elden Ring, and Sekiro really evolved this man.
I have very fond memories of playing the first Force Unleashed as a kid so I will always respect someone glazing Galen Marek because he is HIM and his voice actor was Darth Maul in the Clone Wars show as well as The Son in that one episode about the three people that represent The Force, and reprised his role as Darth Maul for the Rebels TV show
Yep you’re one of my favorite youtubers
that cliffhanger was DESPICABLE but you rocked his shit so we gotta let it slide this time
Love this guy😂😂
Yo you always know when to do your cliffhanger mane 😂 gets me every time keep it up
Bro really might just beat the “never finishes series” allegations
Dual stance is my favorite I probably used it 90% of the game. Especially if you can master the auto parry shit is OP after that
Please do this for a series we love seeing you have fun
Afffrroooo you the boy but these cliffhangers be killing me keep up the good work
Ngl Cal is easily my second favourite star wars character right behind Anakin, Cal just got some top tier character development on this game so it's hard to not putt him on top 5 at least, my only issue with Starkiller is that he's so stupidly broken that it's ridiculous for me
Cal top 5 is crazy tbh
Afro bringing up the fact Cal beating Vader would create plotholes but he's so blinded by hype that he doesn't realize starkiller existing also creates plotholes lol
YOOOOOO BRO these cliffhangers you be leaving us on are driving me crazy. I was literally at the edge of my chair.
Afro just wanna lyk can’t go a day without watchin ya vids💪🏾
More survivor!
Afros star wars vids are even better than Andrew tates hair
Afro getting hype with Cal was how I was feeling too. Cal feels so badass in this game.
You made this made late but it’s still gonna be fire
That dagan fight gave me so much trouble yesterday, I’m glad you’re better than me and did it much quicker with less health and stims than me.
However.. the rayvis fight is really damn hard on grandmaster.
I can't wait for Rayvis to run his fade
Rayvis made me lower my difficulty to Master man 😭😂
@@MultiKool13 I was playing on ng+ so I just put on the purity perk to get an easy and quick fight, since I shit you not, used 10 stims on phase 1 of rayvis, and only had like 2 left. So I said fuck that and turned purity on.
@jaxonvlogsgames769 phase 1 was easy, phase 2 was just way too aggressive for me, could never even use all my stims
I prefer Cal more than StarKiller as a character because the downside for StarKiller, being a overpowered beast is you don’t get to see him go through struggle or have a major down point.
He literally gets betrayed by the only master he's ever known and has his not-friends executed. Being strong doesn't mean you can't have a good story, and likewise Galen being strong doesn't mean he didn't struggle. While stronger than average, Kota clearly states that size and distance mean nothing to a Jedi. Starkillers greatest feats are stated in universe to be something all Jedi are capable of, though some wouldn't survive.
Looking deeper into the force does that. Even Kanan in rebels looked deeply into the force to pull a feat he could never do previously, though the effort killed him. Starkillers real strength is his trainint and connection to the dark and light sides. Remember, Galen was so strong he was able to copy his mind into his clones (none of Jangos clones had his memories).
@@TheDarkMaster312I’m pretty sure he is talking about strength wise, as in the fights won’t be fun because you know he’ll win.
Those AOT screen cuts are so hype. Good editing choice my guy.
I look forward to this star wars video everyday
Honestly I'd like to see a fight between those two. 🤔
Starkiller was a menace when he released.
Cal would need one hell of a training arc
The amount of shit cal would need just to stand a chance is off the chart, like cal may be very skilled and very strong but he's absolutely no match for a dude who pulls down whole star destroyers, like cal would have to put that force slow to WORK to even have a chance
Cal would get bodied by Starkiller, no chance at all. Starkiller’s midichlorian count is estimated to be second to only Darth Vader, but Starkiller was significantly stronger with the force than Vader due to his training and brutal upbringing. Estimates put it at almost, if not double Cal’s. Starkiller had accomplished all of his feats by roughly 17-20 years old due to his death, which is the same age range when Cal’s story began in Fallen Order. Between force potential/abilities, training, and mastery of the blade (especially given their respective ages), Starkiller stomps Cal 100 times out of 100.
@@PaganMin671 yeah def wouldn't matter, remember there's 3 versions of starkiller (technically 4) the og starkiller was able to pull down a star destroyer and he is stronger than the starkiller we see in the first games dlc, the starkiller we see in the first games dlc fought legends version of Luke Skywalker, legends luke held a literal black hole, the clone of starkiller had even greater force abilities and was way stronger, then we have the most powerful starkiller the 4th one who was never shown except for in the bad ending of force unleashed 2 where he kills the clone of starkiller(the one you play as) in one shot and one shots Jedi master Rahm Kota and serves his master, Darth vader. Starkiller is whole other breed of OP
@@PaganMin671 I’m not immediately taking sides here, I’m just stating the facts. The Forces Unleashed games focused on a character with almost comparable potential and abilities to Vader, but with a roll reversal for most of it. A freak of nature in terms of potential and true abilities, but starting as a Sith apprentice and becomes a debatable “Gray Jedi”.
Cal’s story is of a gifted, but not exceptional, Jedi who grows and helps others using his connections rather than raw abilities and strength.
Each have their own merits as characters, with Cal being the arguably better character due to him not being OP by nature. But in a fight, it’s a clear one sided massacre.
Starkiller is more a power fantasy to me, which I like, but Cal is an actual fleshed out character as a opposed to Starkiller/Galen. Throughout the Cal games we as the player are exposed to Cal's various fears and the trauma that comes with it. Not to say Starkiller doesn't have any depth, but it's not by much from what I've see. I preferably prefer characters with more depth as opposed to power fantasy (though they are incredibly addictive) so I'd say I like Cal more. Though in a fight Starkiller mops the floor with Cal.
If you’ve played the games, he actually has quite a bit of character depth. They don’t just throw him in the game and tell him to smash stuff.
@@TheVIITV I have played the game and I know he has some character depth, like I said in my passage before. I just think Cal has a lot more depth than Starkiller.
@@lightknight6749 I get it. I believe they added more emotional depth and sentimental value to cal and his story, even gave him a pet droid. With star killer starting off as a sith in the first game, and being a clone in the second, I understand it not being as emotionally compelling or empathizing with the humanity we feel. I personally feel starkiller’s inner conflictions give him just as much depth. That’s something I feel was lightly addressed in survivor and fallen order because of Cal’s Jedi nature. I personally would have like to see Cal struggle a bit more with the dark side. But that’s just me. I’d like to see him interact with it more in the next installment.
Can't wait for the next ep
Cal reminds me of the characters from Rebels, it's weird to see some jedi running around in that time but I love them
Man i really hope Starkiller returns one day because he's a very overpowered badass jedi especially with Sam witwer putting everything in his voice acting roles. I don't care what anyone says he's canon to me 😎👍
He isnt cause he is basically Rey but a dude first of all bland looking, no story , Op for no reason
@@Kevin-fj3ff He was literally trained by Darth Vader himself for his whole life so that could be the reason and the 3rd game could’ve expanded his story and character arc more but unfortunately it was left on a cliffhanger before he wasn’t canon anymore by Disney I mean they already ruined Finn’s character too in the movies.
@@Kevin-fj3ff wtf are you talking about? I've never seen a person be more wrong in my life. Rey goes through nothing and has every power imaginable. Starkiller is kidnapped by the most powerful sith in the galaxy and trained from early childhood, enduring innumerable amounts of mental and physical torture for over a decade. Essentially, he trained, she didn't. He suffers and loses multiple fights in both games, but overcomes those losses and perseveres. Rey doesn't lose. Period. The only thing they have in common is power levels, how they got that power is completely different.
@@whenallelsfails21 Right people just wanna hate on starkiller but can’t back it up
@@PurpleObitoHe is too OP and could make the story boring. You don’t really need multiple reasons to dislike Starkiller. Fun character to play as, but he could potentially ruined the story.
I know that star killer is just legends but I still want to see him in some kind of movie or TV series.
Disney hates money. The Old Republic era and Starkiller are right there and they refuse to do anything with them
Bro showed up after he was done fighting hmmmmmm foreshadowing 🤫🤫
Afro with another great video
Bro did everything but fight Oggdo Bogdo.
Starkiller for sure. He is more than a match against Cal Kestis, Kanan Jerrus, and Ezra Bridger combined in my opinion in both the lightsaber and the Force
Cool. I think it was a stupid question. They're two completely different characters that serve two completely different purposes.
afro videos is always addicting
I absolutely love the cross guard, I'm trying to mix it up with the pistol light saber combo now instead of the dual saber for crowd control. It's definitely a really fun game
Yo, Force Unleashed was my jam back in the day: Sam Witwer killed it as Star Killer
Fun fact: Sam Witwer (Star Killer's VA) also played Darth Maul in the Clone Wars series, and he played Doomsday on Smallville 😎
As for Star Killer being canon, I don't trust any of the writers at Disney with these wonderful characters 😢
I only played Force Unleashed recently, his power is cool and all but the narrative was bit too thin for me. Especially considering he’s strong enough to beat Vader and Palpatine back to back. That ending was kinda weird to me
Exactly. You have to make him die at the end, how are you going to do that when the character is build too powerful? How are you taking him down in a believable way that fans will feel satisfied?
@@ssantos88 making him die isn’t the issue, I was expecting him to die but not by Jedi this is not the way bs. He should have died fighting either Vader or Palpatine, not defeating both only for the blind dude to stop him from finishing them and then they kill him, that was dumb as hell
@@arrocko2687 Even the way he died in the first game wasn’t entirely satisfied.
Favorite serie in all current CZcams💥❤️
18:26 if they ever do a show set during the high republic it would be cool if they showed Dagan cause then we’d see his journey to becoming the Jedi he is during the game and the flashbacks we see of his past.
StarKiller would obliterate Cal 😭
Lmao true but we should make it where Cal Is advanced and he’s stronger so he can hold his own against starkiller and Vader but starkiller helps him fight Vader 🤣 that would be dope
@@burthdgaming If Cal ever reached Cere’s level (which I think he’s almost near when he embraces his darkness), he and star killer would prolly whoop Vader. Of course, high chance of Cal dying anyway but he wouldn’t be completely helpless
@@burthdgaming Why would he?? vader is supposed to the strongest man in the galaxy well next to the emperor
@@OneEyedCloud01 Yes I think he was close too ceres level , because I honestly think Taron Malicros and Bode were pretty strong. and cere held her own , plus something tells me he will go and get revenge against Vader , and who Better too help him then star killer 🤣 after they try and kill each other a few times first though.
@@Kevin-fj3ff idk I’m just theorizing how the third game could turn out
Starkiller would DESTROY Cal 😭😭😭
Afro drops those to be continued harder then one piece tho. Damn got me hyped
Yurr another w video as always
Star killer beats cal no diff
Starkiller is head and shoulders above Kal. He’s getting washed by him respectfully.
This shit is so hype, I love this series
Vid is fresher then new baked bread
first?
I remember playing this on the DS this brings back memories
I need moreee❤
We need a series
It's a good day when afro uploads
If they did something for Survivor like they did for the Force Unleashed games with alternate timeline stories for DLC, it would be sooooooo awesome if they had Starkiller DLC. Ether playing as him or being hunted by him while playing Cal
Afro really be sayin the thoughts we all thinkin
This series is goated man love it so much and i haven't played the starkiller games but i know he will win against Cal he is just too overpowered even tho Cal improved alot in this game
Can't wait for the next part!❤🔥
Yes new vid
We need the next video or two asap. 👀
Taking Dagan to school! Love to see it.
Dem frogs got Afro straight with the skills