Italian AirForce Special Forces Conduct CQB - Marine reacts
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- čas přidán 11. 02. 2024
- CQB is always fun to break down, especially with how nuanced it can get. But you do tend to pick up on certain techniques that are maybe a bit TOO nuanced lol
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Already being said by official sources that this was a video showing fresh recruits training. 17th is the Special Forces branch of Italian Air Forces, but a lot of people that pass the tests to get into it actually come from totally different specialties (Italian Air Force is not mainly infantry oriented), so they do a lot of shooting/tactical training from zero. Once they complete around 2 years of training they’re pretty good, but at the beginning you’ll find people that never touched a gun in their lifetime ⚔️
everything you said is correct, but they were already perfect in this demonstration
They look like clowns
@@DragonNectar ah ok. You are a SF operator from neptune, highly decorated for the battle between the Avengers and Thanos
@@DragonNectar Stop embarrassing yourself. Some gypsy in the Rome metro underground would steal the clothes off your back.
@@giovannimonfardino4075Ma lasciali perdere... questi cazzari non hanno la minima idea di cosa siano le forze speciali italiane, forse perché le loro operazioni sono ultra segrete e sotto traccia e non annunciate con squilli di tromba come quelle delle loro FS. Anche anni dopo aver finito il servizio, non ti diranno mai niente di cosa hanno fatto, Idem per chi ha fatto parte di organizzazioni come AISI e AISE (ex SISMI E SISDE), nemmeno sotto tortura.
I’m italian and i know pretty well this video, this guys are all special forces cadets,so is ob that they aren’t perfect as a real operator ov thoose special forces.
In Europe we have ~1 meter thick concrete/brick exterior walls, at least in Germany, so deliberate entry is preferred as wall penetration is less likely
it depends on What country or city in spain is like 60 cm and i live in Madrid 😂
@@manolo2428 1m or 60cm doesn’t matter, he’s comparing the North American paper walls to thick concrete European ones, this will cause different type of tactics used
For the next video go see the GIS from the Carabinieri, they are like the french GIGN. Trust me they are amezing
Senza contare che in alcuni video dei Gis c’è pure Alpha, un chaddone
Equivalent both GIGN and SAS
No one is on par/more elite than the SAS or SBS mate@@giovanni8381
@@rcm8450 According to experts the Comsubin, the Italian navy seals, are equivalent to SBS and US Navy Seals.
Theres something cool about tier 1 Hostage rescue police,
Kinda like tier 1 hostage rescue SF but without shitting in the woods for a month.
Nice video, as an Italian, I'm happy to see an Italian SF. In this case, it's the 17th Wing Raiders, the Air Force special forces as you well mentioned in the video. If I may, I'd like to add a couple of pieces of information that were mentioned in an Italian video commenting on the demonstration to provide a bit more context. Everything that's being done are real protocols. Then each scenario has its rules, and there are various techniques, but everything that was done exists and has its reasons. They were very conservative, meaning they took their time, cautiously, but this is often how it's done because life is precious.
They are students, so still in training.
At 4:05, the others don't follow because they would only be in the way, as if there were an emergency and they had to backtrack, there would be people in the way.
Later, he does the "nope" with the head and the rest of the team asks for the green light to proceed. As soon as they have the go-ahead, they move forward quickly, and proceed.
At 5:11, the last man holds the outer sector, and on the left, one watches the little mountain. Probably they don't have external security (that's why even when they take the hostage, they always exit cautiously, checking every corner again).
At 5:39, he's attached to the wall. He performed a breaching operation so he's not the most suitable person to enter second. He's also used to throw a flash or any maneuver that prevents you from being ready immediately because to enter, operators must be as fast as possible. It's non-verbal communication to tell the others to enter. Indeed, he'll be the last man to enter.
At 6:34, they remove their weapons, move away, unload, check that the target is dead, etc. This will be done for every terrorist.
At 7:24, the first operator presses against the wall to see as much as possible in his blind spot. He then executes a central step and before firing, says "drop the weapon." Again, the operator who had pressed against the wall enters last.
At 8:40, the squeeze arrives at the first operator on the right, who signals that he wants to enter with the movement of his weapon and is answered by the operator on the left, opening the gate and getting into air ready position. So, the gate open signal = you can enter.
At 8:53, as soon as they enter, they perform a strong wall. 2 operators go to clear the killed target, and the other two secure the doors.
At 10:16, an operator shouts "ace = ammunition casualty equipment." It's a request, a check control by the whole team on the team's status: that everyone has the necessary equipment, ammunition, no injuries, etc. Again, the operator behind the door will enter last.
At 11:30, there are two doors, obviously the priority is the open one. At 11:40, "short room" is shouted, meaning the room is small and doesn't need more operators.
At 12:20, once the threat is neutralized, they deal with the "sierra," i.e., someone who is not an active threat but could be one. So, any person we don't know inside a building. Every check is done in pairs, whether it's environmental (hatches, cabinets, etc.), of the dead or the sierra. If you're alone, you simply wait for someone to arrive (as the operator who checks the sierra does at the beginning).
At 13:50, she's handcuffed in front because she was cooperative, and it's also a signal to communicate it to the other operators. Otherwise, if she hadn't been cooperative, she would have been handcuffed behind. Meanwhile, they're requesting authorization to go to the exit point.
At 16:43, upon reaching the exit point, they communicate their presence to avoid "blue on blue" in case there's a team outside who, seeing men exiting without notice, might mistake them for others.
7:39 he is saying "Getta l' arma" which means "drop the gun"
They were cadets not operators
FYI, these are fresh recruits in training. Depending on their provenience, they may be very "green" recruits at that.
I am sure they are new guys
yes, the guys in the video just joined the 17° Stormo Incursori
17th Riders wing is a highly trained unit, one of the best. These are cadets during Q course.
holding your weapon over yous shoulder helps with visibility instead of looking through your sights. learnt that is Estonian army.
You guys in Estonia don't have the "r" in the alphabet huh😂... Very interesting thanks for the info and greetings from Germany❤💙💛
but whats the difference to low ready
The difference to low ready is, that it is utter bullshit and has zero advantage compared to a standard ready position. It takes longer to shoulder, it takes longer to aim and it has zero structure. Unless you have to pass a narrow threshold there is no reason to unshoulder that rifle in that way. @@inferna7327
@@inferna7327 For us low ready is when your barrel is pointing to the ground. With high ready your barrel is already up. difference is the time from seeing a target and shooting it. High ready is just faster compared to having to bring your entire gun up.
@@razorsharpness4 But you clearly didn't read or answer me. The comment is about what's the difference of OVER THE HSOULDER to LOW READY. Not what is the difference between low ready to high ready. Please read its important if I know that a soldier can read! Why does he do that out in the open when the enemy is likely over some hill or behind cover probably shouldering their gun at +15m distance away and could probably fire +10 shots accurately while he can probably only do 2 or 3 shots like that and then lose correct sight picture, especially since its an urban place there is civilians. Out of every shooter in the world alive today, would you pick this man to shoot a hostage taker who has your family in front of him? Or has 3 or 2 hostage takers in the room with your family in it? I feel like the CQB thing has become a market that gets eaten up by inexperienced military units who teach the wrong priorities.
Cool. Bro, the 3rd assault brigade of the AFU released a new video about the assault on Andriivka and this is one of the craziest videos I have ever seen. 40+ minutes of crazy tension in 4K quality. It's practically an immersive movie with very intense fight scenes, as you like ! Butusov also has a new video about the assault on the heights of the 59th brigade of the Ukrainian Armed Forces with American and Canadian troops volunteers. Looking forward to your review!!!
You said many of the weird things on that especially hugging the walls. For me it was the time used at the door opening, it can also being because training so they actually learn to understand what they are seeing and not just scooting and shooting
ITALYYYY YESSSSSS
in that 5.52 point if theres some guy at right corner inside i think he got clear vision for that guy who holding left corner there. easily could probably see inside weird spot look like for me.
Love this guy's
Are you also using fist simulating holding a bang, or multiple open and close fist? As we use the the latter for fragmentation.
hey cac! i was wondering if you were gonna do another gaza footage video, it was a really interesting one to watch :)
This are the unit 17thstorm airborne specialforce 😊
Wasn't it really slow? Also why did they not have comtacs? Was it just for show or something cuz those helmets are way more expensive than any comtac device
Could it be a tourniquet pouch, and not a pistol mag pouch on the upper chest?
The collapse pose on the wall bother’s me. You are essentially a down gun, you can’t get that gun up fast enough to address threats at the hard corners. You can’t block for your partner who’s covering the rear.
Is it me or most if not all rooms center feed?
you ever played door kickers 2?? should do some vids on it man if not, show your tactics
React to Home Alone Traps.
3:05 Looks like he had a side scope, maybe setup for special distance or circumstances?
Hmm looks like a flashlight with a pressure switch
@@CombatArmsChannel lol ok, I tried 🤷🏼♂️
if you turn the weapon that way, you simply have more field of vision
React, GERR-COMANF, They have the most beautiful CQB I've ever seen.
The head hunters army
3:00 That position is used when you need to shoot over a barricade at close range. Allows you to minimize your exposure, not afraid that bullet will hit the barricade instead of the target and you still can use sights for accurate shots.
But why does he do that out in the open when the enemy is likely over some hill or behind cover probably shouldering their gun at +15m distance away and could probably fire +10 shots accurately while he can probably only do 2 or 3 shots like that and then lose correct sight picture, especially since its an urban place there is civilians. Out of every shooter in the world alive today, would you pick this man to shoot a hostage taker who has your family in front of him? Or has 3 or 2 hostage takers in the room with your family in it? I feel like the CQB thing has become a market that gets eaten up by inexperienced military units who teach the wrong priorities. There's nothing much else to say
@@inferna7327 What is this? Common sense? YOU ARE NOT MILITARY MATERIAL, LEAVE IMMEDIATELY! 😄
@@Pongsaklek1 EXACTLY SO A CIVILIAN ALREADY KNOWS A MILITARY IS TEACHING SOLDIERS HOW TO SHOOT IMPROPERLY IN OPEN STREET APPROACHING A BUILDING MOVEMENT. MILITARIES DON'T PIONEER GUN TECHNIQUES, THEY SURE KNOW HOW TO DRESS FOR WAR BUT THEIR GUN SKILLS ARE A COMPILATION OF PEOPLE WHO ARE PASSIONATE ABOUT SHOOTING GOOD FROM EVERYWHERE. GO AHEAD TRY SHOOTING SIDEWAYS APPROACHING A BUILDING WHILE THE PEOPLE INSIDE ARE SHOOTING AT YOU. SHOW ME HOW G ANGSTA YOU WILL LOOK, OBVIOUSLY YOU KNOW ITS FOR SHOOTING OVER OBSTACLES BUT ITS NOT ADDRESSED BY ANYONE AND PEOPLE ARE JUST MAKING EXCUSES FOR HIM WITHOUT LOOKING AT THE TRAINING SCENARIO
React the 104 RMO Algerian military special forces
It would be nice if you will make a video coverage of the footage of the fighting in Gaza at the end of the fourth month of the war, i.e. March
I'll have a couple videos on that coming up!
@@CombatArmsChannelbe careful. Israel is under investigation for genocide. I would leave the IDF well alone.
I think they say 'Step Over'
Hello. Would like to do a video abaut SS?
looks like he was nodding to #3 man
Guys, these are new recruits during training, keep that in mind
Plz reaction tunisian special forces USGN /BAT 🇹🇳❤️❤️
I think the pistols are berettas 9mm pranellum
No lights on their firearms? Must be early in their training? Flash bangs?
Early trainings
BERETTA PISTOLA CALIBRO 9 SPECIAL TATTICAL
If all.your. ammo.is.on the front of your vest
Has anyone ever told you that you bear a resemblance to Alex Perreira?
I would not call them tier one, but a solid tier two asset. in the same breath as seals and rangers.
they are Tier-1
@@DragonNectarHow so? In this case they were trainees, they have yet to master all the tactics
@@DragonNectar Lol, tell me you know nothing without telling me you know nothing.
@DragonNectar aaand you deleted your comments. What, you weren't able to keep up with the conversation?
@@thecommentaryking His mother scolded him since it was past his bed time.
Dall' Italia potete solo imparare
Could you do a video about USAF ccts by general discharge?
at 7:39 he said: Drop your weapon
3:04 that stock over the shoulder thing we did at the cqb airsoft shoothouse in California in the early 2010s so definitely a throwback style. Maybe he’s of the same era and it’s a weird habit.
4:03 another funky early 2000s tactic. Called the “Kentucky switch” iirc. You’d switch shoulders but still run your dominant firing hand. Again the guys did this at the airsoft shoothouse back in the day…
Come on man, why do you pretend to be an expert? Stock over the shoulder can be an option in special forces as it gives extra mobility in cornering and weapon manipulation. Those guys have one of the best instructors in the world. Who are you?
@@1799JG im not pretending to be an expert im just relaying what I saw growing up being young in the early 2010s in the shooters community 🤣
@@nyl0n your shooter community wasn't in Afghanistan like this Unit carrying out tier 1 tasks:)
@@1799JG LOLOLZ
@@nyl0n czcams.com/video/9TaUonZIilA/video.htmlfeature=shared
Ma la risatina sarcastica è un rituale? L'Italia ha una lunga tradizione in quanto ad operazioni speciali e non ha bisogno di indottrinamenti, perché ha tutto in casa. Evidentemente, paga la ritrosia a rivelare le capacità specifiche. Del resto, sono interventi rapidi di alta professionalità... Personalmente, la risatina la decontestualizzerei, stona parecchio
3:10 every thing is so clean, Does not look realistic, war is bad war is dirty, but practice makes ??
REACT TO KIMERA TACTICAL IN ISRAEL
dude are just rookies on training not finished special ops
You should react to “Forward Observations Group” videos on their channel , they have same bad ass videos of them working in Ukraine on the front line and very much a Special Operations Team . They have truly the most amazing cinematic hype videos of their work and a LOT of CQB training . Nikko has been reacting to their videos and it’s some of the most awesome content . “GBRS Group” also has some great content in their channel. All Tier 1 Veterans in the PMC role now.
Ma questo è del mestiere?
Marine
@@Antares-vj7su i marines non fanno parte delle forze per operazioni speciali, sono semplici marines. Truppe da sbarco. Anche noi abbiamo il nostro corpo dei marines, la CNPM. (Di cui faccio parte, fieramente)
@@Oppressore "Qual è il sinonimo di mestiere?
lavoro, occupazione, arte, professione, attività || (fig) abilità, perizia, competenza, padronanza, tecnica, pratica, esperienza, maestria, professionalità."
imparare l'italiano, grazie :)
@@Antares-vj7su mi riferivo al video non alla tua risposta, in cui un semplice marine viene posto a giudicare l'operato di un reparto tier1. È inutile fare i puntigliosini. Imparate a copiare dai siti, manca solo l'URL. Prego 🙂
@@Oppressore è stato chiesto se è del mestiere e un marine è nello stesso ambito professionale. Non è di certo un commercialista che sta commentando nel video. Se poi ha conoscenze specifiche riguardo alle forze speciali, questo non lo so. Tu hai fatto il puntiglioso per niente ed io ti ho risposto in maniera ironica
Yeah I'm not real impressed with the movements
Holding the rifle like that given the hilly environment allows for level shots in a natural sweeping motion that allows for tracking at the waist instead of the traditional aiming methodology that uses head and waist movement
Jk 😂 doesn't make since
Indian naga regiment videos
quirky
React to the italian GOI (COMSUBIN, Italian Navy), they were proclaimed as the Best Navy Special Force in the world, some GOI operators have also SEALs badge, but don’t exist Seals with GOI badge
Because a seal doesn't need a GOI badge to show it's capable...
😂😂😂😂😂😂
Naga regiment is the dengerous regiment in Indian army
They are starving
Ready or not, bots
🤖
The director told em "try to look cooler"
When Italians wake up, they’ll eat you alive and claim that Italy is the most combat-experienced country in the world lol
@@Anon738Despite what you believe, the Italian military and SOF has quite a lot of experience
Original Italian rifles that have seen combat for sale.
Dropped once and haven't been fired. $5 obo.
I don’t want to be the rotten egg.
But there is something I did not see. And some of the most important aspects of CQB.
SPEED….. SURPRISE…and VIOLENCE of ACTION. Train how you fight. The movements are too slow.
These are new recruits during training
@@martinfainimagherini2462speed won't improve those horrible tactics. One of them doesn't even know how to set up his speed reload mag.
Review the new 3rd separate assault brigade videos in Ukraine. Who cares about Italian forces lol when you have such gems released recently
This was recorded before that came out. That reaction is coming up though!
@@CombatArmsChannelThanks. Sorry for being a douche, just can't wait to watch it
@@MarxJosx.79No offense, dude, but let's be real. Italy hasn't taken a significant part in any major military conflict for many decades. Watching some guys having airsoft-like training, knowing they will most likely never even fire a gun in the direction of an enemy, while there are insane real fight footages of two advanced militaries. Glory is earned in the battle, not in training
😀😀I agree with you.@@Anon738
Are you seriuos???@@Anon738
Bad bad cqb🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️
ah ok hahahah
@@giovannimonfardino4075si, fa veramente schifo
@@def_00510 eh si infatti immagino che tu sia un operatore delta force seal ranger sas 😂😂😂
@@giovannimonfardino4075 in italia abbiamo di meglio, il Gruppo Operativo Incursori della Marina, che si classifica come miglior forza speciale di marina al mondo, seconda in assoluto solo alle SAS inglesi, ad ogni modo è un parametro oggettivo, è stato piuttosto penoso, specie l’inizio, ma lo svolgimento non da meno.
@@def_00510 quando i comsubin faranno il numero di operazioni che faranno i sas FORSE saranno simili, ma le migliori al mondo? No, assolutamente no.
At least they are facing the correct direction, normally they are running away.
Funny meme, now get a history book
Pretty sure this is a Italian airsoft group.