Tongkat Ali Benefits - The Best Herb Ever? | The ATP Project 364
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This week Jeff and Steve dive into the research around the incredible herb Tongkat Ali. The result is a rating of 10/10 making this a must-have for BOTH men and most women. The guys discuss Tongkat Ali's ability to improve training, strength, sexual function, and desire...what more could you want in life?? Bonus benefits include a boost in dopamine to help you feel great and boost focus at the gym as well as being great for the liver and digestive system. Is there anything that this herb doesn't do? Listen in, this is jam-packed with information on how and why Tongkat Ali should be on your radar.
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As always, this information is not designed to diagnose, treat, prevent or cure any condition and is for information purposes only - please discuss any information in this podcast with your healthcare professional before making any changes to your current lifestyle.
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00:00:00 - Tongkat Ali - what has it been used for?
00:02:54 - Tongkat Ali - for muscle growth
00:04:58 - How does Tongkat Ali boost testosterone?
00:13:13 - Tongkat Ali libido and sexual function
00:20:34 - Tongkat Ali - Meta analysis - erection performance
00:21:52 - Tongkat Ali benefits for women
00:24:06 - Boost dopamine
00:26:23 - Liver and digestive system
00:27:14 - Gut health
00:33:42 - Tongkat Ali - Rated
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This guy thinks he is old at 53 I'm 68 and I don't think I'm old at all actually I've been born again I lost 40 pounds a year ago eat organic/non GMO. It's all in what you believe if you believe you can do something it's possible. If you don't believe your dreams will never come true
Congratulations, and yes you're right, you're only as old as you feel! 🎉🎉
It’s hard to find quality food decent price even more so based on location … growing veg and what’s possible if space is avail is nice
I can probably do more pushups and chinups and run faster and further than 90 percent of college guys and im 59...of course ive worked out my whole life but thats what the secret is...i see most men even youngsters have a beer gut but ive got show abs
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I am 59 and my gf is 19. I take T male that has tongkat. we have a very great sex life. i exercised my entire life. I do not drink alcohol or smoke. I live for today and enjoy every moment.
female 400mg per day, increase muscle, strength, lower body fat, increase energy, gym recovery. the bomb
I can't wait to try it!!!
Hi Guys,
Great Podcast, love your comments on TA.
My wife and I watched it through to the end.
We've just purchased a bottle of capsules each and now waiting.
If I may mention we're both 64 and not feeling our age at all.
There are three main most important factors in a healthy life while growing older in years.
1. Healthy eating.
2. Active movement (exercise).
3. Sleep.
All these things will keep you feeling younger.
TA will hopefully give us that extra boost we both need.
Well, after all, I'm an old bodybuilder from the 70's and gathered a lot of information on the way.
How did it go?
Good for the tool😂
Very solid advise!!!
You guys are so hilarious, you get to the 'hard' point and make me laugh. Best on the subject; but I have to listen to it twice since you are both hyperthyroid, talk a lot and over each other. No problem, enjoy your blog enough to listen more and more. Give me a heads up in any future comedy shows. Bravo
Love this podcast and amazing products 🎉
Thanks Dan it's awesome to hear that you're loving the podcast!🙌🙌
Extensively times that step we are afraid to Take might just be the right one. Thank thanks for your Compassion and for not allowing me down throughout the whole revolution. Your medication that cured me is super remendous I am delighted I came across your channel.
Thank you very much brothers
Took tongkat ali last year. 1 dose, 400mg, a day. The first 2 weeks felt amazing. Mood skyrocketed to the point where I could kind of just watch things that would normally infuriate me just roll off my back. And, very unexpectedly, a back pain issue I had for a significant time was just gone. The inflammation was gone completely and my range of motion was 100%. Looked it up and read that having more free testosterone is a natural anti-inflammatory compound.
After about 2 weeks I noticed my nipples started to seem to get puffy. Initially chalked it up to paranoia as it was the one possible side-effect I was most concerned about. But after a bit it was clear it was definitely happening. So cut back from 1 dose a day to every other day/few days. The benefits just evaporated. Mood crashed. Back pain was back. And the puffy nipples stayed for quite awhile even after I stopped taking it completely. Libido, which had been pretty normal pre-tongkat, also crashed. Can't underestimate how disappointed I was. First time in decades I had felt that good and had to stop due to gyno.
Did your libido increase whole taking tongkat? If yes, did the crash in libido means back to how it was per tongkat or worse?
So you are saying Tongkat messed you up in in am metter of weeks? Complete bullshit mate sorry
@@KyleFonrose My libido was normal/good before I took tongkat. It increased slightly while taking it. And then crashed to low levels, for about 2 months, when I stopped taking tongkat
Consider a herb which reduces aromatization. More free test give more test which can be aromatized.
Any update or did you stop completely?
Thank your so much. You are 53 years and younger.
Here's some advice: steer clear of steroids due to their severe side effects. During my time using them, I dealt with widespread acne, leaving lasting scars and bumps on my nose. Swelling in my ankles made it hard to walk or stand for long periods, and my mood swung wildly-I'd be aggressive and pushy one moment, then reclusive the next. Realizing this wasn't healthy, I quit.
After researching online, I stumbled upon Standardized hot water root extract of Tongkat Ali. It's been a tremendous help in the gym, and the best part? No side effects. Highly recommended for those struggling with low testosterone levels!
Tongkat Ali is a blessing. So is Fadogia agrestis. Fadogia is literally more useful than prohormones
Great video guys! One question; I've read that TA increases DHT levels which could start causing hair loss - is this true? Does it depend on how much you take? Thanks
Yea this is true. And depending on the extract, TA has toxicity.
Hi. Tongkat Ali was tested to see whether it increased DHT levels in a study. What they found was that after 5 weeks, DHT levels went from 180 to 179ug/mL. So it basically didn't change DHT levels either way.
Reference:
Henkel RR, Wang R, Bassett SH, Chen T, Liu N, Zhu Y, Tambi MI. Tongkat Ali as a potential herbal supplement for physically active male and female seniors--a pilot study. Phytother Res. 2014 Apr;28(4):544-50. doi: 10.1002/ptr.5017. Epub 2013 Jun 11. PMID: 23754792.
High prolactin levels cause hair loss
I've seen videos that say it can cause joint pain, anxiety, and hair loss. Just wondering if anyone here has had any of these side effects?
nice listen
We are so glad to hear you're loving the podcast!
It is working for me😂🎉
On the bottle I just bought it say for women not to take it. I’m gonna try it for myself and see how it works for me.
I think the key thing the mention is it's not the same for everybody for some reason people absorb or react differently to the supplement other Studies have shown that it doesn't do anything as far as free testosterone and it's a mixed reaction per individual sadly
I cannot understand.. How something can reduce your cortisol levels and stress you out at the same time?I have ordered it now but am worried as I already take meds for panic dis order an panic attack.
Great review of Tongkat Ali! No doubt Tongkat Ali is the best herb known to mankind. Not many Australians are aware of Tongkat Ali unfortunately. I started taking Tongkat Ali for many years since i was 40. I am still taking 200mg daily with OFF and ON cycle. The best Tongkat Ali in Australia now is AKARALI, a brand that uses freeze-dried US-patented technology. A must try for those who are using Tongkat Ali for the first time.
Hi Shahid thanks for leaving the review. It's great to hear you're loving the podcast information 🙌🙌 If you have any future podcast topic suggestions please send them on through or comment them below
What's your cycle?
Hello Shahid, what's your cycle? Thank you in advance
If it increases dopamine it should help focus so could it help learning. X
Well just started this at 500 mg a day 5 days ago. Getting headaches but not too bad. Taking it with boron at 12 mg and DHEA 25mg a day. I really want to increase my libido. Im 59 yrs old and in the gym 4 days a week. My last T blood test showed a total T of 352 and a free of 8. I plan on re testing in 4 weeks.
Hi Jose, please keep us updated. 45 here. I've personnaly tried Tongkat Ali 2% from ND (genuine product for sure, awefull taste, the worst ever) , bought 2x30g jars a few months ago, first jar, took only 200mg per day as instructed, not much results, made a break for several weeks, then tried 400mg per day with the second jar, not much results either. Maybe should I've taken 600mg...? So now I'm trying their 10% pills, supposed to be much more potent... I've started 5 days ago, too soon to tell, I'll keep you posted, but I don't plan to make any blood test, I'll just report my overall feelings. (subjective I know)
@@Zebulon1977 thanks for the info. My test is set for Dec 3 rd. Will be interesting especially because I'm also taking the Boron. I was taking 9mg of boron for 2 weeks then tested. Didn't change a thing. My total T free T and estridiol remained the same. So I increased it to 12mg a day along with reducing my DHEA from 50 a day to 25mg a day. Ill keep you posted.
@@joses5356 thanks Jose! Good idea to give boron a try! cheap, and might also serve for joints pain... usefull for me considering my very bad knees... I've been taking boron on and off 9/12 mg per day for several years. I cannot say with 100% confidence it works in the testosterone department, but hey, again, cheap, and we are very likely deficient in it (at least here in France). Search "George Flechas" on youtube to learn more on boron. You'll see that this Dr is advising to take way more than 9/12 mg... seems there has been a misunderstanding about the toxic dose, you can see everywhere 20mg per day, but it seems it's rather 20 GRAMS per day... anyway, check Dr Flechas video. On my side, I think I begin to see positive effets of Tonkat Ali 10% from ND on day 7... well being, energy... to be confirmed in the upcoming days. We keep in touch. Take care!
@@joses5356 Update please ?
@@darkdevil6508 I'm delaying my blood tests for another month. Still on Tongkat but only 3 days a week. I looked at my last blood tests from last year and noticed they tested my pregnenolone. It was really low at 67. So after researching i started 10mg a day along with the DHEA. Got to say that I feel much better in terms of energy and clear mind. I reduced the Tonkat only because of the headaches but it seems to add energy too. Im assuming that I had what they call the "pregnenolone steal." If so I should see good blood tests next month including the level of pregnenolone which I added to the list. Im trying different things instead of TRT . Oh and libido is much better. Not so much desire but performance is there. No problems. The wife told me to stay on pregnenolone lol.
`What is the recommended dosage for man in 60's?
How does this rate against the Rockefellers petroleum based medicine ?
What about pairing Tonkat in the morning and Passion flower at night?
Interesting! we have put this down as an FAQ to be answered on an upcoming podcast :)
Do intermittent fasting for testosterone and G Hormone
My question is does it work when on trt
It may not work when you are on TRT because TRT suppressors Lutinizing Hormone (LH) and Fenugreek boosts LH. What is does for you when you are on TRT is reduce testosterone being converted into oestrogen (Study: www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6505335/)
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I wish you guys would take out Fenugreek and replace it with Cistanche. Fenugreek increases estrogen and doesn't increase test or free test in Alpha Jupiter
Thanks for the comment! Cistanche is an amazing herb, but can have a laxative effect in people, which can be off-putting for consumers (Study: www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5028387/) And Fenugreek does boost testosterone, particually in younger men. Here is a review study of 32 studioes on Fenugreek: www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8166567/)
Love the podcast however my view is contrary in regards to DHT, dihydrotestosterone i a metabolite hormone which occurs when the testosterone molecule comes into contact with the 5 alpha reductase enzyme DHT is a 3/5 fold more powerful androgen than testosterone and is more responsible for driving the libido.
How does it affect the prostate?
They point to research that indicates it will not affect DHT levels
I am an older female who is also on BHT. My SHBG has been high for years and I recently started taking Tongkat Ali along with Boron to see if the claims of lowering SHBG is accurate. I will have only been on it for a month before new hormone testing is done - maybe not long enough to work , but the results will be interesting.
It will Lowe SHBG and release some free testosterone it will not raise testosterone at all.
@@scraggs11 , thanks, exactly what I am looking for. BTW, new test results did show some lowering of SHBG. I will continue.
@@kaceeboxers3580 stay blessed and remember to take a 4-5 break ever 5-6 weeks to reduce your body building up resistance. It will start working within a few days and a month is plenty of time to notice improvement in blood works. Hope your journey continues to healthier quality of life🙏🏻
Thank you for the information about laying off every 5-6 weeks. Hopefully, this will be the first time I can actually get my SHBG close to normal limits. Difficult to know that most of my hormones are bound up and not useful, having to try and ‘override’. This has always bothered me. Blessings to you as well - your help is much appreciated.
here in Malaysia tongkat ali is synonymous with men, but for women there's another amazing herb called 'kacip fatimah'
Hi there, thanks for the comment. Yes, it a great herb, but caution needs to used with this herb because this herb readily interacts with drugs. If we put it in a supplement and someone takes it while they are on medications, it can cause the drugs to become toxic or detoxify them quicker. Both outcomes are not ideal. This herb needs to be prescribed by a health care professional to ensure there aren't any herb-drug interactions. Here is a study finding "In conclusion, L. pumila and its constituents showed significant modulation of all three regulatory proteins (CYPs, P-gp, and PXR) suggesting a potential to alter the pharmacokinetic and pharmacodynamic properties of conventional drugs if used concomitantly." pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/25152732/
In Malaysia is it a top herb and what is its popularity over there as its basically from Malaysia.
@@3412rt yup, very famous aphrodisiac
I’m 35 and started taking it the other week without beeing graphic I’m having crazy erections it’s definitely done something to my testosterone and oestrogen balance
I have not seen a woolworths in 15 years!
Safe to take it with antidepressants?
Hello, we can't offer you this kind of advice as it is always best to check in with your prescribing practitioner when starting new supplements. Thanks for listening in :)
Tongkat ali vs Fadogia agrestis
Which is better?
Tongkat
And the improve levels of estrogen? How do it works???
Thanks for listening and for your question! Tongkat Ali can improve estrogen levels in men via the inhibition of aromatase (the enzyme that turns testosterone in estrogen). By inhibiting this enzyme, excessive estrogen levels can be reduced in men which can increase testosterone levels if this is the desired outcome. Here is a link to a scientific paper on this mechanism of action:
pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/23810842/
can it be taken with creatine ?
Yes
How will T. Ali work on a woman that has had a radical hysterectomy? "Forced menopause ".
Grest video guys, and no commercials. As for TGA, every other video says we should cycle it, but you say no need in a reply to another viewer. Could expound on this please? For me how does TGA affect the autonomic nervous system? New subscribet here.
Hi, thanks for reaching out and for the comment. 😊Traditionally, TGA was used for sexual dysfunction, aging, malaria, cancer, diabetes, anxiety, aches, constipation, exercise recovery, fever, increased energy, increased strength, leukemia, osteoporosis, stress, syphilis and glandular swelling, as well as it is used as an aphrodisiac, antibiotic, appetite stimulant and health supplement. While some of these uses are for short term use, it was commonly taken long term for conditions such as aging. Thus you have a choice whether you take it long term or for short term use. We hope this helps!
@@TheATPProjectThank you for reply. My main issue is do i need to cycle TGA, 5 days on 2 days off and monthly as well, as so many suggest? Or can i take it daily for a month and see how i feel?
My main concern is to raise testosterone and anxiety for which I am taking things. However do not want to take TRT, due to side effects.
@@mijf1171 i take 1 teaspoon black maca.1red maca(prostate heath)ashwagandha(anxiety)i mix all powder in luck warm milk and drink 1 hour befour workout and i nailed the iron.i take 5days days on 2days off..no sides effects since one year
@@wasimahmed1570 Thank you.
What brand do you advice?
We can't give this recommendation, we encourage you to check in with your practitioner and do some personal research :)
Any advice on how to cycle tongkat ali?
Thanks for reaching out, this is a great question. Tongkat has been traditionally taken for long periods of time so there is no need to cycle it like you would testosterone.
@@TheATPProject Thanks! Appreciate the response :)
im taking 5 days on and 2 off. and its going good
It puts my libido through the roof if I take it everyday. Love the mood/energy boost on days I'm feeling sluggish. Clinically proven to improve the dick to ball ratio
Safe to take at 24?
Yes, it is safe for 24 year olds to take if they choose to do so.
I take Micro ingredients 200:1
And I haven't noticed any difference
I take about 300mg
Every day and skip here and there
im 21 should I be taking 600 mg a day?
As we do not know your health record we are unable to recommend an amount for you. We do however suggest to speak to your health practitioner regarding the amount that you should be taking.
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How long does it take for tonkat to work
Studies have found it takes 5 weeks for Tongkat Ali to exert its beneficial effects: Study: pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/23754792/
Does it effect your sleep cos a felt like didn't get much sleep and just started taking it yesterday
I would avoid it I felt dizzy and nauseous from it. Lots of safer and better alternatives
be eating them eggs with it xD
I’ve been taking this for awhile…. I’m not seeing any difference….
I have been on a month and noticed NOTHING
You would be lucky to buy real TA there are so many fakes about , supplements are not like drugs there is little or no regulations on them
is it safe for 14 year old 1200 mg
14 yo needs Tongkat Ali？？for what ？
yapma kardes! sana gerekli degil :)
NO !
Im going to have to call bs. I took Tongkat Ali for over a year now and it basically does nothing. I work out very hard and wanted a boost. I took it 3 times a week. I just had my T checked and it dropped about.75 from last year. Just tried going without it for last 2 weeks and notice no drop off in my training. Im 66 years old. No difference in libido either.
I’m 23 and I’m taking it everyday for a month and it’s my second week taking it and it’s amazing works wonders for me
Gave me major anxiety, and insomina, just on 400mg a day, dont take this guys just use a good quality protein and creatine. This is banned in some countries for a reason
I take it, and I've experienced zero anxiety issues. All gains. Remember everyone. Everyone's genetic makeup is different. Try it yourself and see.
Can you get TA in tablet form here in the UK?
In capsule form from a company called British Supplements.
@@tonynowell3975 Thanks! Much appreciated my friend!
At 400mg I became so Nauseous and dizzy during the day had to stop. Horrible hobble feeling the same as when I took Turkesterone
Lol what a mong, your diet is obviously the issue
Can some recommend a reputable brand for TongKat Ali. Thank you
Nootropics depot brand (the 10% version) is the best I found after lots of searching.
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@MG-jy5qx do you cycle, if so how?