DIM - Should You Be Using It? | The ATP Project 361
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- DIM - Should You Be Using It? | The ATP Project 361
This week Jeff and Steve discuss a popular supplement, 3,3'-diindolylmethane (DIM). DIM is used often with the intention to help with acne, hormonal dependant cancers, and bodybuilding. There is a lot to unpack here, find out why DIM might NOT be the best option in most situations...especially if you are trying to build or maintain muscle mass. The guys share alternative options such as tongkat ali, shilajit, resveratrol, and even sulfur-producing vegetables such as broccoli sprouts that convert into the DIM you might be seeking AND other beneficial chemicals within the body! Find out why you don't want to skip the conversion step by using DIM alone, listen in to avoid being a DIMwit.
00:00:00 - DIM
00:01:06 - What is DIM?
00:06:03 - Benefits of DIM
00:16:35 - DIM in food v supplementation
00:20:30 - Aromatase inhibitors
00:23:47 - DIM and estrogen
00:26L41 - DIM as a supplement
00:27:34 - DIM and weight loss and acne
00:29:38 - Dima and hot flashes
00:30:21 - Getting benefits from taking DIM - should you be concerned?
00:31:09 - Blocking androgen receptors
00:34:40 - DIM supplementation concerns
00:40:18 - FAQ’s
As always, this information is not designed to diagnose, treat, prevent or cure any condition and is for information purposes only - please discuss any information in this podcast with your health care professional before making any changes to your current lifestyle.
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Well done, guys. Excellent video.
Love the podcast guys!
I've been using it for years. Breast pain around my cycle is unmanageable without it and it's a nifty daily nutrient boost. Looking forward to hearing more about it. :)
Let us know what you think of it once you've listened to the full ep! :)
what is your dose trt , i take 250mg test /week and took 200mg DIM for 1 week now , my nipple still anoying
@@suprljnh5003
How was your experience with Dim after a month?
Thank you guys so much for replying to my question! And you pronounced my surname perfectly 😂
Jeff's pretty good like that😉 But THANK YOU for leaving the question for us- we love interacting with you guys
CZcams is full of "professionals" readers of other people studies & research, both for & against everything.
I prefer doing my own research & studies in my own body, with exception of things with high warnings. With that said, I heard DIM for men can help get rid of "man boobs" due to high estrogen & been using it, off & on, for over a year or 2 now. I have a muscular man's chest now, that's still under construction, & no longer appear like I need a training bra.
So based on my on hands on study & experiment with my own body I like the results of what I'm seeing & shall continue till I meet my goal or any blood work or medical condition arrive showing me it's causing harm.
What's your dosage? Do you also take it with dhea? Thanks
@🍊jay I've taken different brands usually its 1 pill a day that are 100mg to 300mg. I take DHEA as well but not consistently & can't say I've noticed any benefits from that but that could be because of the inconsistent use of it.
I'm more into raw yolk eggs now for the choline, plus all the other minerals & cholesterol. The choline helps with fatty liver.
What if men take dhea should they take dim? They say it's supposed to balance out the estrogen from dhea and even trt. If not what would be recommended?
Well, I am halting DIM after seeing this. Did not know it blocked the androgen receptors.
What about calcium d glucorate?
It I need to balance hormones would indole 3 or broccoli sprout powder be better?
I’ve used DIM several times over the years because I thought it would help block aromatase (I carry a bit of fat on my chest). I would notice while using it at times I was more emotional. Makes sense now if it blocks androgen receptors as well
What dosage did you take? Have you tried less?
@@markalejandrox hello, I was taking 200 mg once sometimes twice a day. Maybe I’ll try taking less in the future
Try only taking 200mg a day along with NAC, L carnatine, mega green tea. All dim does is help the liver filter toxins. Also, you must take fish oil with Dim for better absorbtion. Key note: Every body is different, there are different reasons why someone may need to balance hormones. @@jaymorrison5895
Just popped it in my mouth as I saw the this vid recommended.
Thanks. This explains my lower libido after supplementing with DIM. Definitely going to stop using it.
We are glad you found this ep helpful
where in the video does it talk about sex drive
Am I receiving indole-3-carbinol or DIM When taking Broccoli “sprout” powder? Is Broccoli powder a safer Aromatase Inhibitor than taking a DIM supplement? My intention, is to reduce estrogen and increase Testosterone as a 46 yr old Male. Any suggestions are greatly appreciated!
Thanks for reaching out, You need to be a bit careful with DIM as capsules of DIM have been found in studies to activate oestrogen receptors (pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/25048790/ ) Rat studies have found DIM can actually reduce testosterone and damage testies (pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/26926141/ ) In humans, DIM can block testosterone receptors (pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/12665522/ ).
Having broccoli is a much safer way to reduce oestrogen. We hope this helps!
@@TheATPProject Thank You! When you mentioned “Broccoli”, are you referring to I3C or Broccoli “Sprout” Powder for reducing Estrogen (Aromatase Inhibition?!)? Which is the best way to consume Broccoli or Brussel sprouts while preserving beneficial compounds? From what I understand, Myristinase from Mustard Powder, can help Sulforaphane become more Bioavailable, is this accurate?
@@RobertLaTuso Another great question! Brassica species all inhibit aromatase because they contain indole 3 carbinol, which is an aromatase inhibitor. Here is a paper on that: pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/25612679/
Steaming them preserves the indole 3 carbinol levels. and yes it is arrurante if you wanted to read more on the science behind this please read this paper :) www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4629881/
I was taking finasteride for hair loss and started getting gynomastia. Endocrinology said estrogen was high testosterone was about 9 in uk scale. Did psa was 4 when I stopped finasteride my psa was 13 when I googled psa 13 there is a 60% chance of cancer. Started finasteride 2 weeks later psa was 6.urology did mri said possible legions 4 did biopsy no cancer. Urology have said to continue with finasteride to keep psa down check bloods in 3 months. I asked was this serious he said no but if I want can do a biopsy next time to check. Do u think I could try taking small dose of dim about 200mg to help with gyno and help with prostate I'm 43 years old my dad had benign prostate proplems in older age. I some times think this all started when I put on 2 stone and started taking finasteride..
Hello
So what did u do to keep estrogen low because i have the same problem with finasteride
seed the garden. Thats my favorite part.
Thanks for the comment- we're glad to hear you're enjoying the podcast
Jeff needs to stay on topic
Thank you for your feedback :)
Dim for estrogen dominance in men? Is dim okay to use?
In a few words, no not for men. It can be used in certain circumstances in men, but generally it is not a great idea. We go into detail on our DIM podcast, but in a study completed on rats:
"DIM (i) had side effect on some sperm characteristics, (ii) increased the MDA levels and (iii) led to histological degeneration of testicular tissues and apoptosis in a dose-dependent manner."
Not a great start. Here is the study: pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/26926141/
@@TheATPProjecthow about DIM for woman with ovarian cyst?
What would you recommend in place of this to increase free testosterone levels?
Cruciferous veggies
I started taking DIM a few months ago for water retention on my chest. it worked in that sense but it killed my sex drive! never again....
This is the first review i heard that says DIM lowers testosterone mmmm.
It helps to lower the free testosterone that gets converted to estradiol
Now I know why DIM killed my sex drive, thanx a lot.
26:03
I wonder if you could cycle it?
Take it to boost free testosterone and then off it to free up receptors.
Cruciferous affect the thyroid. Don’t give half information
DIM makes me bloated and gassy 😒