The thing I most enjoy about Necromunda is having your very agile, very fast assassin champ get hit by a Hail Mary stubgun shot from a fresh-faced juve while on a staircase then fall down not only that set of stairs, but two more because they failed all of their initiative checks, ending up seriously injured at the bottom level where another juve just walks up to them and does a coup de grace. It's the interactions like this, where the terrain isn't just a movement penalty or increase to armor/reduction to the chances of getting hit, but that where you are, where you place your guys matters. There's wind turbines eager to turn a poor ganger into so much chunky salsa, there's vats of goo filled with god knows what, grabby tentacles reaching out from grates in the floor etc. to watch out for. A well put together Necromunda table not only looks damn cool, but is an active part of the game. The most annoying thing though is the prevalence of plasma weapons. It's annoyingly "meta" but just too good to pass up.
When the game first came out in the 90s we took it up and had loads of fun. I still have my Escher gang, Black Orchids. We had scenery we built, some of it to reflect occurrences in the game, such as a Goliath getting buried by rubble when the roof collapsed. A tank car made into some kind of chem tank. Whoever won the game could take it and paint some graffitti on it. Things like that. The game was a blast. Now, with the new miniatures and material, still grand. :) Great game!
About the same. Bought most sets but have played less than 5 times. Absolutely love the models, lore, setting, customization, and depth of play. Base/gang building and it's deep campaign is second to none
Oh good. New to Necromunda. I always wanted to get into it back the the 90's, just didn't have a chance. I just bought a few sets, and was thinking about splurging more. Then I thought maybe it's a bit crazy to buy everything. Glad to see I'm not alone in this thinking.
The less free time I have as I get older the more I value my hobby time and especially narrative games because its just epic! 40k is slowly harassing me out of the hobby with the shenanigans of releasing a codex followed by a whole other book for 4 pages of rules that should be in the same frakking book🤣 Hey, have you thought of making a discord so we can keep growing the munda communit & this channel?
I get that. I played a 40k game last night with my updated deathwing. They have collected dust for years and all of a sudden they are relevant. But you need the codex. Regarding a discord, I figured there is so much out there already. I just started Instagram so between the channel, FB and that I’m not sure I could efficiently keep up with it.
Great introduction to the madness that is Necromunda! Bonus, I got a (much appreciated) shout-out! I view NM as something you can run as an almost rpg sort of game - the gangs and members have names and can definitely be fleshed out - if your group has a ref/hivemaster the characters can be involved in adventure hooks/plot points for games so epic that you will talk about them in years to come. Down such a path lies madness. Embrace it. Cheers!
Tired of getting Primaris Lieutenant releases? Necromunda is the game for you, its primaris free and has the scope for Chaos and Genestealer cults too. :-)
Of all the GW games, I love Necromunda the best, and I have since the very first release in the '90s. In fact I think I've played more games of that than I have of 40k. I have moved away from mainstream 40k but I prefer skirmish-sized games (he says as he opens his third Bolt Action army LOL) and I've been a Goliath player from Day One. If someone were to ask me to recommend one and only one GW game for them to play, Necromunda would be my recommendation without a second thought. The new version is sometimes more complicated than the original, which was based upon 2nd Edition 40k - especially the wound rules can be confusing now. But I think they can be learned as you go,
Yeah I love some bolt action as well. We’re going to start doing some more of that. I would agree on necromunda as well. It’s definitely my favorite GW game.
Great video! Was planning on making something similar myself...now I'm going to need to come up with something else :) keep knocking out this great content.
Thank you for the help with decision making and for other sources for community and terrain builders. Your battle reports are also inspiring and helpful. Thanks!
If the new start is under $180 aud, that be great, Dark upraising is pretty up there when I'm still building Vahallan 40k army at the same time. I might just get this starter now, can always build up or scratch build extra terrain later.
Solid Vid. This makes a great intro to Necromunda as an gaming experience. I hope the paper plates gets the shout out ;) Love the "Jackie Chan'" credits roll. Cheers
Obvious question for many people who might be thinking about getting into Necromunda right now is whether Stargrave might be a better fit for them. It's sitting in the same small-skirmish scifi minis campaign game niche, it's the product of the same guy who designed the immensely successful Frostgrave and Rangers of Sjadowdeep fantasy games, and its dedicated minis are far more modular and less expensive than Necromunda's. Plus it's minis-agnostic so if you already own scifi figs (including Necromunda ones) you can almost certainly use them for Stargrave as well. And the rulebook is about 55% of the cost of Necromunda's, and its complete, where the total package for Necro sprawls over more than half a dozen books at the moment with more coming, and many of their new models are sickeningly expensive Forge World stuff. Stargrave's due out in under three weeks. Going to be interesting to see how fast its player base grows, and how expensive this new Necro core box (and the Cawdor book) winds up being.
Right on. I never got into frost grave but I had an itch for it. Just never pulled the trigger. I’m always looking for new games so I’ll look into it as well.
There should be some Endorsement qualification in there somewhere. 😋 Seriously though there are a cubic metric F-ton of skirmish games out there. Each one has it's own special niche. As an aside I have yet to play a session that didn't have some counts as models. Heck, once the bug bites hard mini conversions and terrain vie for hobby time. Checkout some of the Necromunda galleries out there. It's not a tournament type game being held by GW sponsors at Adepticon. Use whatever minis n terrain you want. Most importantly "Do have some Fun today".
Thank you for this video! A friend of mine is hosting a 'learn to play Necromunda' at our local game shop and this convinced me to give it a go. Sharing with another friend who is on the fence as well.
Fantastic review! I have been playing GW since 1994 and I am looking at getting back into Necromunda and your review has been very helpful, thank you for all your efforts in putting this together, I just subscribed!
The tone & quality of this channel is really inspiring me to get back into Necromunda, everything is just right for what i like in my gaming hobbies. Im about the narrative, customisation and model making. GW have always possessed the some best lore and IP from back in the 80s/90s, but have degraded that rich resource for profit, for so long, that i hesitate. I dont know if current GW has improved its ways since i broke free all those years back? I think id like it all better if they seperated rules from lore. Maintain free online living rules sets rather than have it all scattered between so many pay walls etc. Im wondering if this new starter pack rulebook will be an up to date revision with all the changes, erratas etc to date. If so, would be a tempting option to start Necromunda if the price is right.
While I would like to think so I’m of a similar feeling as you. The paywalls are a major turnoff and I think you said it well. I would not expect this new release to be a major departure from their recent model but here’s to hoping.
@@MiniatureGameMontage i guess its a tale as old as time. The true reward has always been the creativity that springs up beyond the over priced & mishandled product; inspiring communites, engaged gaming buddies and an outlet for your own imagination. Keep doing what you're doing. It's working :)
Wonderful vid thanks! I think in the future folks shouldn't even call them pros vs cons though, it's really all preference in Necromunda's case. Like for the non-concise rules that are spread out etc...I mean so were some of the greatest RPGs of all time, and I'd have it no other way so as to ensure all the lively and awesome experiences we can get thanks to that approach. Ash Wastes is the perfect example of how epically well they've been able to take advantage of the way the game is set up like that.
Finally got around to watching this video, and I've certainly found it informative. Love your Necromundan content btw. Things I like about this game. I really like the alternating turn stuff. I've played 40K games where I get tabled in turn 1 or 2 and annihilated by the following turn. Or just play the rest of the game feebly trying to catch-up; and it is not fun. The alternating turn stuff feels really appealing to me, and reminds me a bit of Bolt Action with their system and order dice. (Need to check your Bolt Action content as well) And honestly, I do weep in sorrow we don't have the same level of balance that Bolt Action has with its game. I do think the alternating turn stuff would help balance 40K so much. But that's getting ahead & aside. Don't think I'm going to get into Necromunda any time soon. Missed a chance to try & play a campaign at my local Warhammer store, and they are soon going back to 40K. I'll definitely be doing Aeronautica soon, they have plans to play that after this upcoming 40K campaign. Plus got a mountain of stuff I need to finish painting before I consider getting more models. Love the assembling and building. But yeah. Thank you very much for doing this video, and giving me some stuff to think on. Will definitely be watching more of your content.
One con you forgot to mention is Necessary Accessories, namely gang cards. Gang Cards are the primary handicap mechanism for matches between different power/experience level gangs. While the starter sets come with a decent collection, it becomes clear you need the sets dedicated to your gang for the biggest bang for your buck as it were. Unfortunately most are out of print and can go for ridiculous prices on ebay
The only thing I would add is there are alternatives. I've researched excel sheets and other community made items to offset the lack of gang cards. Thanks for chiming in. :)
Interesting. I like the theme and small scale of Necromunda almost roleplaying fights secnarios and progress. Games Workshop is plain bad at making rules. Unclear, inconsistant, updated part by part not clear about if old ones remains or not.... But after all it is a a minatures game and the models are great looking :)
Sump City radio is awesome but don't forget about the Eye of Horus. They're a bit more foul mouthed but their content is great and their necromunda inspired commercials are hilarious. Haven't listened to the dome runners yet. I'll look them up. I love necromunda. Such a fun setting, universe, and game
@@MiniatureGameMontage I'm one of about 3 players in a 200 mile radius where i live so games are few and far between so the podcasts are my life line into the hobby. I'm greatful you mentioned the dome runners as it gives me another one to listen to.
It is for me but I’m caught I between a rock and a hard place with getting my Death Guard army done and the Be’Lakor broken realms release for AOS. I bough, built and painted both Warcry starter boxes. So I’m full aware and capable of doing Necromunda to its fullest. I need more time to get involved
I loved your bloopers at the end you have an awesome sense of humor must be fun to play necromunda with you lol I have just recently started building to rain for the game because I have been watching Eric‘s hobby workshop. I have two big sets made off of his channel and I am almost done with the third. I’ve watched a video on how to play necromunda but I have a question. I’ve been making the buildings but I noticed your table top has a sort of checkerboard pattern to it do you have to have this patterned board to play the game or to keep score? If so is it possible to hand paint one? Thank you for any help
Hi Wendy, great channel (Eric’s). I’m about to start building some terrain myself using his videos. So the checkerboard pattern you refer to are zone mortalis style tiles. You do not need those but they thematically fit so I use them frequently. I’m not sure how to go about making them but you can absolutely hand paint them. Thanks for watching until the bloopers! Got to have some fun with making videos. 🙂
If you're on a budget: you and your friends can buy the models from GW for your favorite gangs (~50$ for 10ish models), make your own terrain with cereal boxes and other bits, and buy the 5$ Gang Wars rulebook from One Page Rules. You do not need fancy terrain or spend hundreds of dollars on gang books and rule books to wargame on a budget!
How would you describe your philosophy for building a Munda board? Is every piece separate? Do you have a method of where doors and corridors are? Or do you just kinda get the terrain out and start putting it on the table and let it grow naturally? I’m working on my terrain and building it and painting it is almost less daunting than thinking “we’ll do I glue this floor to this terrain like on the box? Do I keep it separate for customization?”
I think there are pros and cons to both. If you glue pieces it does lose some modularity. It also requires much more room to store. You can, however, add much more detail and depth with grime and rooms and stuff like that. All of my stuff is individual pieces. I store everything in a few boxes and just start putting things on the table. Generally, I try to think of a theme. Is it more of a street fight, will it be more of a mechanicus/industrial area, HAB level, etc. I start placing columns and walls and build up and out. I try to make sure all areas are accessible by two points and place doors where I think they must be used. If you're on Instagram I posted a reel of the board build with a series of pictures. :)
Very informative, thanks. Already joining but still good. And I have been around sicne 1st Ed but not really played (much). And not the newer Ed at all. And still helpful.
For the price of the Necromunda starter (especially the ridiculous amount you spend in books), you could buy yourself *and two of your friends* a Stargrave book and a Stargrave team. Rules are better written and not spread across three books.
Yeah I tend to stay away from diving too deep on price as it's all relative to who you're talking to. I wouldn't mind giving Stargrave a go at some time.
Totally understand! I actually bought a 3D printer just to print ZM compatible tiles. All of my tiles are 3D printed and I’ve never thought about it again.
Another Con: Forgeworld. It might not be much of an issue if you're in the UK, but outside the UK it's a real pain in the ass. Very expensive, only available from their website so no 3rd party stores for the most part, and ridiculous shipping unless you feel like spending a lot at once. But a lot of models are only available from them, pretty much all the named characters and alliance retinues. And while some people think that resin models are great, I hate working with resin and wish everything was made with GWs excellent plastic kits.
Just looking at picking up a copy of the game but with no models. . Would 1 box of 10 fighters be enough for a corpse grinder gang? If the gang could eventually be 20 fighters I would want to paint them all at the same time to keep them looking more uniform so should I buy 2 boxes? . . I like to batch paint units . .
Interested in this game. So far the biggest concern is the rules. Having them spread so far abroad means I’m unlikely to have all the relevant rules. So - how do I play with someone else? If they claim I can’t do something or that they get to do something extra, I’ll have no choice but to shrug and go “I guess…”. I love the setting and excuse to make lots of homemade terrain. But rules seem… important?
Unfortunately if you want to know everything it has become somewhat “codexy.” You can get by and have fun with the core rules and your “house of” book but there would be surprises, especially with tactics cards. Yaktribe is a great resource for looking at various information that you may not have access to.
@@MiniatureGameMontage Appreciate the tip. Games Workshop really makes it hard for newbies to confidently dip their toes in their stuff. They have starter packs but knowing that there are rules beyond that which could impact gameplay with others makes it tricky.
Necromunda is best enjoyed more as a gang RPG than a competitive game. Care for your gang and its fate. And with care, and played with a like-minded people the games become very tactical as a mistake can cost you a ganger or more and unravel a good run of fortune very quickly. No system like it.
Haven’t had time to look into them myself but I definitely want them. I think Wellywood Gaming posted a video on them recently. Might be worth checking out 🙂 I’ll be on the squat train soon!
Certainly debatable. I've spent a lot of money on it and do not have any regrets. I think of it as I could have played 10 rounds of golf (which I do play) and that happiness would be long gone. I'm still enjoying Necromunda, however.
@@MiniatureGameMontage I spent a lot of money in GW when I was younger and enjoyed wargaming, until everyone I knew moved on to other things because GW's prices were just increasing at a ridiculous rate. I remember when GW said plastic miniatures were becoming such good quality that they'd be able to reduce the prices when they started producing more plastic miniatures...and when they moved on to more plastic miniatures they increased the prices instead. But when I look at the cost of..say the boxed games which used to be about £30-40, now they are over £100! Maybe it's that my life has changed now that I have a family and no disposable income, but it would take me a couple of years to save £100.
@@Wolfways yes it’s difficult when the company is a publicly traded one. It’s really sad to see personally. It’s not so much about delivering a good product or hobby value at an affordable price but more how do we best last year’s sales. I play a lot of different games and still support GW to an extent. I’m by no means blind to their business model. I wish it was different tbh
My assumption is it may be somewhere new that new Kill Team box release. They included a lot of obstacles/barricades which I don't feel are necessary but it will fluff the price.
@@MiniatureGameMontage I just bought the Underhive box at same price, it has 3x3 beautiful double sided thick board tiles instead of that 2x2 plastic-paper mat (which is also in Dark Uprising); Underhive does not have those walls, but I guess it's a better deal in the end. Too bad "Badzone Delta 7" tiles are completely gone everywhere. There were another 9 gorgeous tiles. Thanks, cheers
@@DANNYtheBOY11 Awesome! Yeah I used the Underhive tiles all through season 2 with my Dark Uprising stuff. The lack of fit didn't break it for me so hope you enjoy. :)
@@MiniatureGameMontage I'm checking it out, awesome set, painting and production, great job! I did not start playing it yet, I mostly play solo, so I doubt it's going to be fun playing it that way; there's an official solo scenario around, but it does not seem that intriguing.
To hell with Necromunda or anything else that GW is using to pick people's pockets. Deadzone from Mantic is a way better game without all the GW fanboy BS
I’m a fan of Mantic. Played Kings for a long time and have 3 armies. I just hate their resin stuff. The last items I bought were Mantic’s Armada ships. They are just plain awful and I haven’t given them much thought since
@MiniatureGameMontage Their early resin stuff was pretty bad. Armada casts are pretty good, except for the large amounts of extra resin that needs removed with a saw. My dwarf fleet painted up nicely however, and I'm getting ready to paint my ork fleet. I'm pretty excited about their announcement of a potential epic scale game.
@@chrisshockey8883 yeah I’m excited for that as well. I know for my orc and Basilean fleet the masts were pretty warped and broke easily. The resin didn’t want to take paint well even after a wash. Even glue was an issue. I’ve since realized the power of super glue and baking powder! That’s a god send and would have changed the game 😂
The thing I most enjoy about Necromunda is having your very agile, very fast assassin champ get hit by a Hail Mary stubgun shot from a fresh-faced juve while on a staircase then fall down not only that set of stairs, but two more because they failed all of their initiative checks, ending up seriously injured at the bottom level where another juve just walks up to them and does a coup de grace.
It's the interactions like this, where the terrain isn't just a movement penalty or increase to armor/reduction to the chances of getting hit, but that where you are, where you place your guys matters. There's wind turbines eager to turn a poor ganger into so much chunky salsa, there's vats of goo filled with god knows what, grabby tentacles reaching out from grates in the floor etc. to watch out for. A well put together Necromunda table not only looks damn cool, but is an active part of the game.
The most annoying thing though is the prevalence of plasma weapons. It's annoyingly "meta" but just too good to pass up.
Bravo! Could not have said it better myself! Where’s that pin button, lol!
Life is like that. 😅
When the game first came out in the 90s we took it up and had loads of fun. I still have my Escher gang, Black Orchids. We had scenery we built, some of it to reflect occurrences in the game, such as a Goliath getting buried by rubble when the roof collapsed. A tank car made into some kind of chem tank. Whoever won the game could take it and paint some graffitti on it. Things like that. The game was a blast. Now, with the new miniatures and material, still grand. :) Great game!
Awesome! Thanks for commenting and sharing!
Winner graffiti is such a cool idea!
I fell down the rabbit hole big time, I have bought every set so far. I’ve not played a game yet as been in lockdown 😓
I’m so far down the rabbits live above me. 😆
About the same. Bought most sets but have played less than 5 times. Absolutely love the models, lore, setting, customization, and depth of play. Base/gang building and it's deep campaign is second to none
If play with you if I could mate
Oh good. New to Necromunda. I always wanted to get into it back the the 90's, just didn't have a chance. I just bought a few sets, and was thinking about splurging more. Then I thought maybe it's a bit crazy to buy everything. Glad to see I'm not alone in this thinking.
There are Necromunda solo gameplay videos to get you started.
The less free time I have as I get older the more I value my hobby time and especially narrative games because its just epic!
40k is slowly harassing me out of the hobby with the shenanigans of releasing a codex followed by a whole other book for 4 pages of rules that should be in the same frakking book🤣
Hey, have you thought of making a discord so we can keep growing the munda communit & this channel?
I get that. I played a 40k game last night with my updated deathwing. They have collected dust for years and all of a sudden they are relevant. But you need the codex. Regarding a discord, I figured there is so much out there already. I just started Instagram so between the channel, FB and that I’m not sure I could efficiently keep up with it.
@@MiniatureGameMontage and ow to follow the Instagram 🙂
Great introduction to the madness that is Necromunda! Bonus, I got a (much appreciated) shout-out! I view NM as something you can run as an almost rpg sort of game - the gangs and members have names and can definitely be fleshed out - if your group has a ref/hivemaster the characters can be involved in adventure hooks/plot points for games so epic that you will talk about them in years to come. Down such a path lies madness. Embrace it. Cheers!
Thanks buddy :)
Addicted to Necromunda figures and terrain, as well as your channel! Keep up the good work!
Will do! Always have more Necromunda planned.
Tired of getting Primaris Lieutenant releases? Necromunda is the game for you, its primaris free and has the scope for Chaos and Genestealer cults too. :-)
A very fair & balanced video on the game, pointing out exactly what Necromunda is, well done 👍
Great Video. I've never played Necromunda, but it definitely looks amazing. You deserve more subscribers! Keep up the good work.
Thanks a bunch.
Of all the GW games, I love Necromunda the best, and I have since the very first release in the '90s. In fact I think I've played more games of that than I have of 40k.
I have moved away from mainstream 40k but I prefer skirmish-sized games (he says as he opens his third Bolt Action army LOL) and I've been a Goliath player from Day One. If someone were to ask me to recommend one and only one GW game for them to play, Necromunda would be my recommendation without a second thought.
The new version is sometimes more complicated than the original, which was based upon 2nd Edition 40k - especially the wound rules can be confusing now. But I think they can be learned as you go,
Yeah I love some bolt action as well. We’re going to start doing some more of that. I would agree on necromunda as well. It’s definitely my favorite GW game.
Thanks for the relaxed, realistic introduction. Hopefully many of us find the way to this wonderfull game!
I hope so too! Glad it was enjoyable.
I have never played the game but I enjoy listening to the Eye of Horus podcast.
Never listened but will check it out! I’m kind of getting into Horus stuff! Lol
Great video! Was planning on making something similar myself...now I'm going to need to come up with something else :) keep knocking out this great content.
Thanks, do yours as well. Everyone has a different take and the more resources people have the better.
Thank you for the help with decision making and for other sources for community and terrain builders. Your battle reports are also inspiring and helpful. Thanks!
Thanks, bud! I appreciate you watching and commenting.
Fantastic vid. Keep it up!
Thanks!
If the new start is under $180 aud, that be great, Dark upraising is pretty up there when I'm still building Vahallan 40k army at the same time. I might just get this starter now, can always build up or scratch build extra terrain later.
Ugh. Such a hard pill to swallow for you guys.
Solid Vid.
This makes a great intro to Necromunda as an gaming experience.
I hope the paper plates gets the shout out ;)
Love the "Jackie Chan'" credits roll.
Cheers
Had some others but that was by far the funniest! :)
I love your batreps. I have been watching them to get ready for my first N17 campaign. I have not played since N95.
Thanks! I wish I could tell you what has changed...but apparently a lot has. :D
Obvious question for many people who might be thinking about getting into Necromunda right now is whether Stargrave might be a better fit for them. It's sitting in the same small-skirmish scifi minis campaign game niche, it's the product of the same guy who designed the immensely successful Frostgrave and Rangers of Sjadowdeep fantasy games, and its dedicated minis are far more modular and less expensive than Necromunda's. Plus it's minis-agnostic so if you already own scifi figs (including Necromunda ones) you can almost certainly use them for Stargrave as well. And the rulebook is about 55% of the cost of Necromunda's, and its complete, where the total package for Necro sprawls over more than half a dozen books at the moment with more coming, and many of their new models are sickeningly expensive Forge World stuff.
Stargrave's due out in under three weeks. Going to be interesting to see how fast its player base grows, and how expensive this new Necro core box (and the Cawdor book) winds up being.
Right on. I never got into frost grave but I had an itch for it. Just never pulled the trigger. I’m always looking for new games so I’ll look into it as well.
There should be some Endorsement qualification in there somewhere. 😋
Seriously though there are a cubic metric F-ton of skirmish games out there. Each one has it's own special niche.
As an aside I have yet to play a session that didn't have some counts as models. Heck, once the bug bites hard mini conversions and terrain vie for hobby time. Checkout some of the Necromunda galleries out there. It's not a tournament type game being held by GW sponsors at Adepticon. Use whatever minis n terrain you want.
Most importantly "Do have some Fun today".
Thanks for the shoutout mate! And good pointers.
Thank you for this video! A friend of mine is hosting a 'learn to play Necromunda' at our local game shop and this convinced me to give it a go. Sharing with another friend who is on the fence as well.
Great! It’s not for everyone but it’s a lot of fun for those that enjoy what it is.
Fantastic review!
I have been playing GW since 1994 and I am looking at getting back into Necromunda and your review has been very helpful, thank you for all your efforts in putting this together, I just subscribed!
Thanks! Welcome back! :)
This was really helpful. I played it back I the day and want to recapture some of the old magic. Thanks
I never played the old one so I can’t compare. I hope you enjoy.
love your battle reports and keep having fun
The tone & quality of this channel is really inspiring me to get back into Necromunda, everything is just right for what i like in my gaming hobbies. Im about the narrative, customisation and model making.
GW have always possessed the some best lore and IP from back in the 80s/90s, but have degraded that rich resource for profit, for so long, that i hesitate.
I dont know if current GW has improved its ways since i broke free all those years back?
I think id like it all better if they seperated rules from lore. Maintain free online living rules sets rather than have it all scattered between so many pay walls etc.
Im wondering if this new starter pack rulebook will be an up to date revision with all the changes, erratas etc to date. If so, would be a tempting option to start Necromunda if the price is right.
While I would like to think so I’m of a similar feeling as you. The paywalls are a major turnoff and I think you said it well. I would not expect this new release to be a major departure from their recent model but here’s to hoping.
@@MiniatureGameMontage i guess its a tale as old as time. The true reward has always been the creativity that springs up beyond the over priced & mishandled product; inspiring communites, engaged gaming buddies and an outlet for your own imagination.
Keep doing what you're doing. It's working :)
I need so much more terrain.
Said every mini war gamer ever.
I have zero doubt that it was the first major change H. G. Wells made
Lol
Me, a complete beginner after ordering Ash Wastes box: maybe I should watch this 🤔
😂 I’m sure you’ll be fine!
Wonderful vid thanks! I think in the future folks shouldn't even call them pros vs cons though, it's really all preference in Necromunda's case. Like for the non-concise rules that are spread out etc...I mean so were some of the greatest RPGs of all time, and I'd have it no other way so as to ensure all the lively and awesome experiences we can get thanks to that approach. Ash Wastes is the perfect example of how epically well they've been able to take advantage of the way the game is set up like that.
Good call! Thanks for the feedback.
keep up the great content, we love it this side of the pond
Thank you! :)
Finally got around to watching this video, and I've certainly found it informative. Love your Necromundan content btw.
Things I like about this game. I really like the alternating turn stuff. I've played 40K games where I get tabled in turn 1 or 2 and annihilated by the following turn. Or just play the rest of the game feebly trying to catch-up; and it is not fun. The alternating turn stuff feels really appealing to me, and reminds me a bit of Bolt Action with their system and order dice. (Need to check your Bolt Action content as well) And honestly, I do weep in sorrow we don't have the same level of balance that Bolt Action has with its game. I do think the alternating turn stuff would help balance 40K so much. But that's getting ahead & aside.
Don't think I'm going to get into Necromunda any time soon. Missed a chance to try & play a campaign at my local Warhammer store, and they are soon going back to 40K. I'll definitely be doing Aeronautica soon, they have plans to play that after this upcoming 40K campaign. Plus got a mountain of stuff I need to finish painting before I consider getting more models. Love the assembling and building.
But yeah. Thank you very much for doing this video, and giving me some stuff to think on.
Will definitely be watching more of your content.
Thanks! I appreciate such a detailed comment. I would do Aeronautica if I had more space for another game. Maybe some day 🙂
One con you forgot to mention is Necessary Accessories, namely gang cards. Gang Cards are the primary handicap mechanism for matches between different power/experience level gangs.
While the starter sets come with a decent collection, it becomes clear you need the sets dedicated to your gang for the biggest bang for your buck as it were.
Unfortunately most are out of print and can go for ridiculous prices on ebay
The only thing I would add is there are alternatives. I've researched excel sheets and other community made items to offset the lack of gang cards. Thanks for chiming in. :)
I just picked up the new ash wastes box this past weekend and i can't wait to see what the Escher get, hopefully giant Phyrr cats they can ride.
That would be awesome! Congrats on your new pickup! I'll be venturing there myself soon.
Interesting. I like the theme and small scale of Necromunda almost roleplaying fights secnarios and progress.
Games Workshop is plain bad at making rules. Unclear, inconsistant, updated part by part not clear about if old ones remains or not....
But after all it is a a minatures game and the models are great looking :)
Agreed
Loving your videos mate, really getting into it. Can I please ask. How do you paint your yellow ladders and rails??
Thanks! Very easy. Just averland sunset and a wash of agrax to make them dirty. Might drybrush the edges to make them pop a little
Sump City radio is awesome but don't forget about the Eye of Horus. They're a bit more foul mouthed but their content is great and their necromunda inspired commercials are hilarious.
Haven't listened to the dome runners yet. I'll look them up.
I love necromunda. Such a fun setting, universe, and game
Thanks for posting. I agree. I’m a bit new to podcasts as weird as that sounds so I’m just now discovering a lot of stuff.
@@MiniatureGameMontage I'm one of about 3 players in a 200 mile radius where i live so games are few and far between so the podcasts are my life line into the hobby. I'm greatful you mentioned the dome runners as it gives me another one to listen to.
Thanks, a really great video. Lots to think about, and enjoyable to watch.
Thanks for the comment 😀
Thank you for your introduction
:) Thank you for watching and leaving a comment
Oh noo, unannounced CZcamsr face reveal :O
...once again, my immersion has been broken by content creator not matching my imagination :D
Lol I show my face around here once or twice a year. :) No crazy thumbnails though. That’s just not my thing
It is for me but I’m caught I between a rock and a hard place with getting my Death Guard army done and the Be’Lakor broken realms release for AOS. I bough, built and painted both Warcry starter boxes. So I’m full aware and capable of doing Necromunda to its fullest. I need more time to get involved
The only thing we can't get more of! :P I have that problem as well. I have a difficult time assembling and painting with doing battle reports.
Looking forward to the next battle report.
Very nices review of the game. I´m starting with the new box, so subbed. Thanks!
Welcome to the channel and to Necromunda!
I loved your bloopers at the end you have an awesome sense of humor must be fun to play necromunda with you lol I have just recently started building to rain for the game because I have been watching Eric‘s hobby workshop. I have two big sets made off of his channel and I am almost done with the third. I’ve watched a video on how to play necromunda but I have a question. I’ve been making the buildings but I noticed your table top has a sort of checkerboard pattern to it do you have to have this patterned board to play the game or to keep score? If so is it possible to hand paint one? Thank you for any help
Hi Wendy, great channel (Eric’s). I’m about to start building some terrain myself using his videos. So the checkerboard pattern you refer to are zone mortalis style tiles. You do not need those but they thematically fit so I use them frequently. I’m not sure how to go about making them but you can absolutely hand paint them. Thanks for watching until the bloopers! Got to have some fun with making videos. 🙂
If you're on a budget: you and your friends can buy the models from GW for your favorite gangs (~50$ for 10ish models), make your own terrain with cereal boxes and other bits, and buy the 5$ Gang Wars rulebook from One Page Rules.
You do not need fancy terrain or spend hundreds of dollars on gang books and rule books to wargame on a budget!
Truth in this. I 3D print a lot to make ends meet and that was one of the best investments I’ve made.
The original Necromunda gang Delaque was the coolest models with their Trenchcoats and the vindacari assassin also
I bet unfortunately I missed that era. I enjoy hearing about it though
@@MiniatureGameMontage lol I’m 45 I caught that era as a teenager 😂 in Tauranga New Zealand back then
I’m not far behind you. 😀 Took me until my late 20s and early 30s to really get into the hobby
@@MiniatureGameMontage It was kinda put on hold when I joined the Army 1992-2008 😂
Great video and coverage of things to think of 👍
Thanks buddy! Cheers from my kitchen to yours :)
The answer is always yes to Necro!
Good enough for me!
How would you describe your philosophy for building a Munda board? Is every piece separate? Do you have a method of where doors and corridors are? Or do you just kinda get the terrain out and start putting it on the table and let it grow naturally?
I’m working on my terrain and building it and painting it is almost less daunting than thinking “we’ll do I glue this floor to this terrain like on the box? Do I keep it separate for customization?”
I think there are pros and cons to both. If you glue pieces it does lose some modularity. It also requires much more room to store. You can, however, add much more detail and depth with grime and rooms and stuff like that. All of my stuff is individual pieces. I store everything in a few boxes and just start putting things on the table.
Generally, I try to think of a theme. Is it more of a street fight, will it be more of a mechanicus/industrial area, HAB level, etc. I start placing columns and walls and build up and out. I try to make sure all areas are accessible by two points and place doors where I think they must be used.
If you're on Instagram I posted a reel of the board build with a series of pictures. :)
@@MiniatureGameMontage thanks for that! My group is for sure still in the build and paint stage of our terrain so we got some time lol
Good informantion
3 finished miniatures already finished. Kinda late for regrets haha.
Nice! The good news is the game is low model count. That’s a positive!
Very informative, thanks. Already joining but still good. And I have been around sicne 1st Ed but not really played (much). And not the newer Ed at all. And still helpful.
For the price of the Necromunda starter (especially the ridiculous amount you spend in books), you could buy yourself *and two of your friends* a Stargrave book and a Stargrave team. Rules are better written and not spread across three books.
Yeah I tend to stay away from diving too deep on price as it's all relative to who you're talking to. I wouldn't mind giving Stargrave a go at some time.
Me and my group would love to play Necromunda but we can't buy any Zone Mortalis floor tile sets. Hey! GW get to work on some floor tile sets.
Totally understand! I actually bought a 3D printer just to print ZM compatible tiles. All of my tiles are 3D printed and I’ve never thought about it again.
@@MiniatureGameMontage thanks for your reply, that will be my next move.
Another Con: Forgeworld. It might not be much of an issue if you're in the UK, but outside the UK it's a real pain in the ass. Very expensive, only available from their website so no 3rd party stores for the most part, and ridiculous shipping unless you feel like spending a lot at once. But a lot of models are only available from them, pretty much all the named characters and alliance retinues. And while some people think that resin models are great, I hate working with resin and wish everything was made with GWs excellent plastic kits.
I very much agree! Forgeworld is an excellent point that I would also say is a con.
My man out here looking like a T'au
You saying I look like a fish? 🤣
I'd love to play, but there's just absolutely zero scene where I live
I understand that completely!
Just looking at picking up a copy of the game but with no models. . Would 1 box of 10 fighters be enough for a corpse grinder gang? If the gang could eventually be 20 fighters I would want to paint them all at the same time to keep them looking more uniform so should I buy 2 boxes? . . I like to batch paint units . .
If you are playing a campaign you’ll need two. The fighters will quickly expand over 10 in this gang bc you need an initiate for every ganger. Enjoy!
Interested in this game. So far the biggest concern is the rules. Having them spread so far abroad means I’m unlikely to have all the relevant rules. So - how do I play with someone else? If they claim I can’t do something or that they get to do something extra, I’ll have no choice but to shrug and go “I guess…”. I love the setting and excuse to make lots of homemade terrain. But rules seem… important?
Unfortunately if you want to know everything it has become somewhat “codexy.” You can get by and have fun with the core rules and your “house of” book but there would be surprises, especially with tactics cards. Yaktribe is a great resource for looking at various information that you may not have access to.
@@MiniatureGameMontage Appreciate the tip. Games Workshop really makes it hard for newbies to confidently dip their toes in their stuff. They have starter packs but knowing that there are rules beyond that which could impact gameplay with others makes it tricky.
@@AVspectre Totally agree. This link might be a good roadmap i.redd.it/t15i2jut1wz61.jpg
@@MiniatureGameMontage thanks very much! I have that saved now. It will help a lot :)
Necromunda is best enjoyed more as a gang RPG than a competitive game. Care for your gang and its fate. And with care, and played with a like-minded people the games become very tactical as a mistake can cost you a ganger or more and unravel a good run of fortune very quickly. No system like it.
Well said. I see it more RPG based as well.
Thinking of making a squat gang any suggestions to help me on my stunted journey?
Haven’t had time to look into them myself but I definitely want them. I think Wellywood Gaming posted a video on them recently. Might be worth checking out 🙂 I’ll be on the squat train soon!
@@MiniatureGameMontage ok thanks I need that land train in necromunda
@@runamuck840 Me too! I just have so much ahead of it to paint. They are releasing more stuff than I can keep up with :D
Same I've got 2 dreadnoughts for my 40k army that need painting
I love everything about Necromunda, but I've never played it because GW's prices are a joke.
Certainly debatable. I've spent a lot of money on it and do not have any regrets. I think of it as I could have played 10 rounds of golf (which I do play) and that happiness would be long gone. I'm still enjoying Necromunda, however.
@@MiniatureGameMontage I spent a lot of money in GW when I was younger and enjoyed wargaming, until everyone I knew moved on to other things because GW's prices were just increasing at a ridiculous rate. I remember when GW said plastic miniatures were becoming such good quality that they'd be able to reduce the prices when they started producing more plastic miniatures...and when they moved on to more plastic miniatures they increased the prices instead.
But when I look at the cost of..say the boxed games which used to be about £30-40, now they are over £100!
Maybe it's that my life has changed now that I have a family and no disposable income, but it would take me a couple of years to save £100.
@@Wolfways yes it’s difficult when the company is a publicly traded one. It’s really sad to see personally. It’s not so much about delivering a good product or hobby value at an affordable price but more how do we best last year’s sales. I play a lot of different games and still support GW to an extent. I’m by no means blind to their business model. I wish it was different tbh
Does anyone have an educated guess at how much in £ the new starter set will be? I’m quite tempted to pick it up and start necromunda
If it’s in line with the recent kill team release 95
@@MiniatureGameMontagethanks, ok that I could manage! Would you recommend any other books etc I’d need or is the rule book enough to begin with?
I played for some time with just the core rules and starter gangs. From what I can see in the starter that would be enough until you want to expand
@@MiniatureGameMontage great! Thanks very much for your help. I’m really enjoying your videos. You have a new subscriber!
@@Swampsong117 Thanks and welcome! :)
Hi there, thanks for the video, estimated price for you?
My assumption is it may be somewhere new that new Kill Team box release. They included a lot of obstacles/barricades which I don't feel are necessary but it will fluff the price.
@@MiniatureGameMontage I just bought the Underhive box at same price, it has 3x3 beautiful double sided thick board tiles instead of that 2x2 plastic-paper mat (which is also in Dark Uprising); Underhive does not have those walls, but I guess it's a better deal in the end. Too bad "Badzone Delta 7" tiles are completely gone everywhere. There were another 9 gorgeous tiles. Thanks, cheers
@@DANNYtheBOY11 Awesome! Yeah I used the Underhive tiles all through season 2 with my Dark Uprising stuff. The lack of fit didn't break it for me so hope you enjoy. :)
@@MiniatureGameMontage I'm checking it out, awesome set, painting and production, great job!
I did not start playing it yet, I mostly play solo, so I doubt it's going to be fun playing it that way; there's an official solo scenario around, but it does not seem that intriguing.
Can the miniatures be used in 40k
Some gangs are direct crossovers. Like genestealers. Overall I would probably say not with some exceptions
Have you seen the Miniature Hobbyist & what he does with sprues???
czcams.com/video/GPycMlzXVv0/video.html
Yep. I still watch his stuff despite his move to more D&D material.
Budget friendly is relative
To hell with Necromunda or anything else that GW is using to pick people's pockets. Deadzone from Mantic is a way better game without all the GW fanboy BS
I’m a fan of Mantic. Played Kings for a long time and have 3 armies. I just hate their resin stuff. The last items I bought were Mantic’s Armada ships. They are just plain awful and I haven’t given them much thought since
@MiniatureGameMontage Their early resin stuff was pretty bad. Armada casts are pretty good, except for the large amounts of extra resin that needs removed with a saw. My dwarf fleet painted up nicely however, and I'm getting ready to paint my ork fleet. I'm pretty excited about their announcement of a potential epic scale game.
@@chrisshockey8883 yeah I’m excited for that as well. I know for my orc and Basilean fleet the masts were pretty warped and broke easily. The resin didn’t want to take paint well even after a wash. Even glue was an issue. I’ve since realized the power of super glue and baking powder! That’s a god send and would have changed the game 😂
@MiniatureGameMontage Probably why I started with Dwarves...no masts lol