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Do valve springs from a k20a2 work with a k24z7
Cylinder Heads : 1:10
K24 Blocks : 4:15
Type S Oil Pump 9:01
Needed Parts For Swap 10:20
Misc /Intake/Header 12:43
Thanks for the great info by a true Honda Master! 👌👍👍👍
Bigger is not always better, to big could hinder flow for horsepower. Check out engine masters on motor trend they to explain things although they do use V8’s but the explanation is the same on any motor
I agree that it's a balance of flow and velocity to match the block and intake manifold but I think Mike is trying to point out that ultimately if you restrict your flow you loose horsepower and if your going for 1000hp you will need the max flow available
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Transmission??
Wow this is a golden video for the K series community. Shoutout all my DC5s tho!
Hoo yah dc5
DC5 for the win ... who's looking forward to the Integra type R ??
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These were the spoon engine's Hector was going to run in his 3 Honda Civic at race war.
Don't let that distract you from the fact that hes gonna be running 3 t66 turbos with NOS and motec exhausts!
That is what he said when he came into Harry's.
How to do the timing
@@ancientapparition1638 bruh I. crying 😢 😭 😪 🤣 💀
The highest output "OEM" build is based on the following:
06-08 K24A2 block
K20A2 Head
06-08 TSX cams
RSX Type-S cam gear
Type-S oil pump
Type-S oil pan
Hope this helps anyone looking for direct answers like I was.
Is k24a3 block same as k24a2?
@@RealLeskot its pretty identical but has about 8lbs more torque
@@6speedvtec789i thought the k20z3 was better
@okboomer250 they're close. The A2 has a fraction more power, but mainly it's used because it has the highest flowing head in CFM for a US K series
I like that set up too.. but i'm going with stock k24a2 with type S oil pump on boost.... maybe throw in the z3 head
Solid simple recipe for a built k20/k24... ported PRB head, ferrea 6000 series valves, supertech 95lb springs & retainers with prayoonto stage 4 cams. Stock K24a2 block with ported type s oil pump, inline pro tensioner, drag cartel billet lower timing chain guide, DC lower timing gear with keyway... 3” 4-1 header, Skunk 2 Ultra Race Intake manifold & Ross machine 90mm TB. You will safely touch nearly 300+hp with a stock bottom end! We have seen it done and it will last! 👍🏽
Solid recipe
It’d be straight to boost this set up bro?
@@gsrambo5038 probably would want a different camshaft , but you could put a turbo to anything you want
90mm TB seems like overkill. Wouldn't a 80mm give almost the same power with better throttle response? Or does the stage 4 cam want that much more air?
@@stutzman999 the stage 4’s have a nice amount of duration so the 90 would be quite ideal imo. The real downside with the 90 is the daily drivability is a bit rough so an 80mm would definitely be nice for a smoother daily driving experience but the 90mm just takes some getting used to. Currently we’re running a much more aggressive Ultra 3 cam on with stock block/ 90mm TB & it’s quite a fun street car!
I like the fact that you shared the information all the part numbers he didn’t tell us to go look for it and put it right there in front and appreciate the speedy secret about the oils quarter what works and what doesn’t, good job
Wow bro, you are a king for this video. I’ve been hesitant to know what engine I’ve been wanting to swap and you answered all my prayers. This video is a holy grail. Shoutout and kudos to you. You are a blessing to the car community 🙌🏼💯
i dont know how to look up any of these parts, when i search many different things come up, i have no idea where to start
@@donjonson6407 if you can't search part numbers then i assume this job is way to much for you. Best to find a race shop who offer these services and pay them to acquire and assemble the motor for you.
@@Philthese93 sweet thanks man
I'm a newbie to engine building, and I have watched many videos but your technical knowledge and explanation about each component needed in a building a k24 is on another level bro. Excellent content. A great help in my arsenal now.
Are you a certified mechanic who just started engine building? I’m tryin to do the same but I have no clue where to start. Except basics.
@@JDMRooqui no my friend, I'm mechanically minded and am doing it as I learn from d more experienced.
I know there’s a lot of information here and you don’t want to overwhelm the listeners, but talking about cams would also be good to note, such as the most aggressive oem cams (best bang for the buck is ‘06 tsx cam. And talk about a couple after market cams. Also the 50 degree cam gear/sensor
I saw in another channel that aftermarket cams can cause issues with the chain tensioners. Boosted engines really don't need any cams other than stock to get up to 800hp.
You are correct. Cams don't matter as much when force inducted. It's going in one way or another.
My personal tip is when it comes to headers if you’re not going with a compression higher then 12.5:1 then don’t do a big tube 4-1 header. All stock block K’s need a big tube 4-2-1 header preferably like a TRI-Y design header because they flow very well and it keeps carrying the power range up top instead of falling down like 4-1 headers tend to do. Yes 4-1 headers will makes more power but they suffer up top with stock compression K’s and it’s pointless to have a lot of power if you can’t even deliver it right. I’ve come to this realization after seeing the dyno graphs on many many K cars my tuner has messed with and feeling it myself on my personal car when I made the change since I’m on a stock block 24 👍
I agree with you thr the question is how much ho can you get from that build without raising the Cp 12.5:1 or higher because you gonna spend a lot of money.
I'm more of a visual type guy, so this vid presentation is nice.
Sick garage too btw 👍
Of all the information I've read and watched, this video is hands down the best knowledge for time spent. This is gold! Great information
1 7/8 diameter on the header on k series is a must for all motor
very informative. thanks for providing this information in a very simply way. searching for all this on the internet can be a hassle and kind of confusing. having a video explaining which parts to buy to build a k24 makes it some much easier. cant wait to see you engine finish being built and in your car.
Not a big fan of Nagasaki nut buckets (v-8 guy here)...but you guys actually make it fun, informational and interesting..might go find myself a hatch to go play with.....I can't believe I just said that. Lol
This video is pure gold. You’re spoiling the new generation and it’s kinda nice
Wonderful, nice to see all the basic casting variants explained in a single video. It's all common knowledge, and it's all been around for a decade, but damned if I never saw it all covered in one place so well. Thanks.
Personally didn’t know a lot of this, not common knowledge. I still don’t know how to churn butter and that’s been around for a while
You should have talked about stock cam options for those who don’t want to break tensioners with aftermarket cams. Tsk 06-08 are the best but I’ve seen some interesting mix and match depending on which style of head you are running because the intake only vtec heads have a lot of potential and actually work with a turbo very well without vtec killer
Been waiting on this for a long time. Thank you
Never reuse oem head bolts, always replace. I learned the hard and expensive way. Great and informative video though!
Btw you have to use the CRV head gasket if running the PRB head (type-S). Use TSX head gasket if using RBC/RBB/RSP cylinder heads, regardless of which k24a block you have
why is this necessary? i bought a k24a2 motor and i plan on putting the block in my type s (k20/k24) so i’d rather save myself from breaking something 😅
@@wherescvrlos because the different cylinder head castings have different coolant passages
You all need to look at the parts you can pull from a RDX K23 engine, the rods in those are bigger than the tsx and can bolt right into the 24 block (keeping the old pistons) you can take the head and turbo that have turbo on them STOCK, and can bolt not to any other K Series. It also has ports to cool the turbo IN the block.
I'm using my old Honda Element K24a4 block and buying a K23 for with 80k on it for only $600 turbo and all. Because no one messes with K23 they are CHEAP.
I'll start vlogging my progress soon.
So did you do the build?
Very professional video. Thanks. What is the best way to plug the oil jet when using the K20 oil pump on K24A2?
This is a great video brother !! Made everything very clear !!
My friend gifted me a k24a4 block for free . My plan is to rebuild the entire block for all motor set up and slap a 4piston head
Great video. Very organized. I especially appreciate the time stamps and part numbers.
What ever happened to that jb weld filled block ya was doin?
I watched this video before but now that I'm thinking about swapping my del sol this video was really helpful
Just picked up a complete short block k24a1 can't wait to build it collecting parts after I start up my k24 k20 accord cd5
Damn man this video is so good. I bought an 06 dc5 with stock k20z1 long block and rbc intake manifold and was looking for info on swapping k24 short block but have no knowledge of the k series compatibility. You pretty much answered any question there is good stuff 👍
Well when I get done, I can use this information to get into these Honda motors.
Thanks a lot, I'm in the process in building K24/20. This video is perfect.
Can you go over the k24 with k20 head horsepower benchmarks and what needs to be upgraded to run each level of horsepower?
I picked up a k24a8 for $70 from offerup. im going forged so it was a no brainer for me. thanks for the info
Thank you for the content Mike!
What cams would you use in a ppa vtec killer setup for NA power?
Skunk2 bmf camshaft 1-6
Very informative! I like the idea of centralizing all the scattered information.
I'm thinking about building a k24a4 for boost with forged pistons and rods. Looking to make around 400 whp reliably. Would I be better off saving the money and keeping the tsx head or going ahead and dropping the money for a K20 head so that I don't regret it later?
Respect Modified I would keep the tsx head if you buy a complete long block. With that power want/level you should be fine unless you want a better head. But if you piece everything together then go with what you can get the best deal on to save some money for other areas.
@@AustinSmith-sx4uk Good to hear. I appreciate the reply
I really appreciate people like you on CZcams its so helpful thank you. if you can help me out i have a 05 EP3 swapped with a 08 K24A2 RBB3 from the depot last year, and with a K20A2 6 spd trans. can i use the stock oil pump and be alright daily driving with the occasional engaging of vtec here and there? haha.. my main concern is a power draw issue with my lights dimming and pretty low idle when i turn on the heat or AC..also when i start the car cold i have to keep my foot on throttle till she warms up or else she stalls out but when shes warm if i dont use the blower it will idle nice @ 800rpm. im told the throttle body is my issue i think its the base k20 throttle body, do you know what i should use for the 08 TSX? big help thanks
I'm actually planning on doing a k20/k24 build with my 8th gen civic si but I'm gonna keep it simple with the k20z3 heads and the k24a2 block but I'm definitely going to port and cut my rbc manifold to fit a k tuned 80mm throttle body
Have you done it yet?? If so lemme get in contact with you. I got questions
@@liamhenry3046 no still didn't started yet probably this winter
Great video!! my question : which manual transmission is best suited to this swap? Thank you very much
you can use.... 2002-2005 EP3/RSX 5 speed... RSX TYPE S 6 speed... or 2006-2011 CIVIC SI... the 06-11 civic si is probably best because it comes with factory LSD.
Thanks for the video! Very well put together and very helpful information for any kseries build
I have 71 240z and it boosted but im on my 14th transmission and I've always wanted to swap a k24 but I'd have to put a ton of money into a good transmission. I really want is like a six-speed sequential.
That one dislike is a Mustang driver that sideswiped his car against the wall
Mustangs doing Mustang things.
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Thank you so much for the video, its a great reference that's super useful!
Hey @Diymike I love how you explain things… I wanted to swap my 04 Honda Accord Ex Sedan, and put a k20 engine from a Acura.. and work on the engine from the outside then install it to the accord… the only problem dude is I want to do this to an automatic….
People telling me add a new intake manifold injectors and also new exhaust manifold and exhaust system and so more other things to make more hp… I wanted to gain more hp but I also know I have to get a Hondata or a K tuner … I wanted to ask you what’s the best way to do it with my AUTOMATIC… I don’t want insane hp but a good number
Does the head of a k20a2, k20z3 or k24a2 fit on k24z7/k24z3 bottom end and does the k20 oil pump bolt right up ?
I want to know too
What up CZcams Troy here again to ask questions on your video with all the answers..
2007 Element SC (5speed)
Just want to get a good 350hp or so what’s the best plan of attack to reach suck goals?
Hey man I have a few question if you have time! I really want to keep my honda around and i'm going to rebuild it one day and can't find the exact answers I need but you've answered most in just one vid!
T-Minus every CRV 02-06 gone off eBay
Bro no joke 😭
Just got myself a 2004 crv awd swap got it all ripped out now standing here looking at my eg scratching my head
One combo i saw not long ago was a base rsx k20 block with a crv k24a1 head with 05 accord rockers and aftermarket cams made 280whp they were going for cheapest 300hp all motor car
@devinej8411 must has been on race fuel.. ain’t no way it making that
how about the k24z7 from the civic si
It's actually ANY RSX oil pump. The A3 in the base RSX also uses the PRB oil pump same as the Type S, where as the A3 in the EP3 does not. Only really useful info if you happen to find one at the junkyard that you wanna pull the parts from for that cheap.
Wao, thanks for the info. I was about to make a huge error swapping the k20z3 head into a k24a4 short block 😯
Does the k20z3 head fit on the k24a1 block?
@@francophysique5192 well I understand that is possible
I’ve got an 08 civic Si coupe 6 speed and LOVE it! Bought it with CAI and long tube headers. What would be the best bank for the Buck if I want more power?
Thanks for the great info Mike! Do you know if the k24a1 lower girdle will fit on a k24a2/a3 ?
TSX K24A DOHC RBB V TEC Engine also can i use the PRB 2002-2006 RSX TYPE S Head on a 95 HONDA PRELUDE THANKS
I have to find the source but I read that the F20C (not F22C) oil pump is better than the K20A2 or Z1 because the engine already has a higher rev limit. What are your thoughts on that?
Awesome video , all the facts and screen shots of flow and part numbers was great .
This video helped me finally start my build
Thanks for the video Mike, very thorough with the info!
RBC Head also comes with K20A JDM
For my K20/24 Frankie Build in the future, I’d run 🇯🇵 PRC 02-06 DC5 Type R Head (ITR) which is exactly the same as PRB 05-06 RSX-S Heads or the 🇯🇵 RSP for FD2R Heads (CTR)
Short Block: K24A1 off of RBB CRVs (02-06)
Wow so much information this is what I’ve been searching for!! Thank you so very much brother!
Can you make a video just for the k24z3, k24z7 too clear up so the misinformation and shops charging 6k-10k for just a headswap?
Thank you for this video! I want to go straight K20 motor and transmission swap in my Del sol, could you possibly make a video on what’s needed to do a straight swap including 6 speed?
Chrispena86 gonna have to do a lot cutting and welding
Very easy man just need all your parts if want me to explain hit me up.ig.p72jdm
cheers dude, we need extra info concerning Euro as well as US for cross over use!
The 06-08 K24a2 head is EXTREMELY underrated by most.
How is it better then 04 tsx
Can you make a video talking about ITBS ???
I would like to hear your opinions on them with the rsp head
Thank you Diymike great information and presentation I’m surely gonna go back to this video on my next engine build and swap
What about the k24z7 block is that a good block
Terrance Herman stock block Z7’s are good for about 400hp before blowing up.
The 02 04 type s is a k20a2 and the 05 06 have a k20z1 they have the same heads?? you guys and boosted boiz have inspired me to build my 05 type s I'm using a k20z1 head with a k24a2 block I'm using the z1 harness what's the best engine management I can use I have a 1320 sidewinder got it cheap so I bought it and found a cheap holset h1c turbo so I'm using that with ebay intercooler ebay tial replica bov and waste gate, I've customized my fuel rail for return and also I'm getting a hondata 4 port boost solenoid I will be using my type s oil pump i never turboed an engine before besides helping my buddy with his rb25det g35 if u can point me to the right direction I'll appreciate it thanks guys
Same head but different Cams .. the 2005-2006 rsx type s is rated at more HP than a 2002-2004
@@diymike what engine managment u reccomend me using for my build
I would recommend kpro.
Great Info man Ty ... your electric water pump should not be mounted on the block (Vibrations)
I got couple of questions Part number for oil jet plug did you keep the balance shaft on the motor or does it get deleted if so any additional parts needed also what injectors will I need do I need to upgrade the pump
I fuckin swear, if someone ask one more thing about the k20/k24 Frankenstein build... I will flip out!!! I’ll just send them this link.... this truly is the ultimate guide.
What about the k24z7
The rsp head (highest flowing) is that the head from a k20A type r motor from the integra type r ?
Awesome video Mike!! Question: what head/block/manifold combo do you suggest for an all motor setup? Thanks!!
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Can the cams and rocker assembly from a PRB (Type-S) head be installed in a PPA head? I am not sure if it will be less work for me but trying to figure out a way to use my RBB intake manifold with less cutting and welding. This is an amazing video! Thanks for putting it together!
Dam I enjoyed the video Mike. I learned so much from this video. I’m still stuck on the b’s. Also you didn’t mentioned the transmissions. Where to begin on that?
You wanna do an rsx or civic si 6 spd manual
Hey man, firstly I love your videos! I am hoping you might see this and respond. So I just got a k24a2 and own an 8th gen si (06). My plan is to simply put the 24a2 bottom on the z3 head.. I'll be getting a 20a2 pump and the rest necessary parts to put these two pieces together. I wont be doing any major internal work. Possibly getting the head to a machine shop for a look over, hot tanked and milled down. Would you mind taking a moment and giving some advice... How high can I safely rev with stock bottom? Any suggested work I should have done at the machine shop? I can't afford cams right now so should I also throw the tsx cams in the z3 head? Sorry to write so much but I would highly appreciate a response if you see this! Thank you and God bless!! .... If anyone has advice i'd appreciate it too!!
New to k motor. To Start fresh as a complete motor, which should i go for? That is before pulling them apart and upgrade internal etc etc? Which complete motor That gives Most power in stock form?
Awesome bit of info for the new builder. Which engine would you reccomend for a first time conversion...best bang for buck. Here in the U.K? much appreciated 👍🏾
A K24w9 head you can bolt a turbo directly to the head and have no lag. At least my 2016 CRV AWD CVT. 3768 is more than enough turbo for me. And a hondata flash tune 12.4 air fuel. It's just a fun family car racing it will probably blow it up
In your opinion . Is it worth while to do the head swap on the TSX k24a2 block ? For money spent would you notice the difference in HP gains ? Thank you very much .
there was a dyno of a k24a2 stock... then one with a RSP headswap.... it made 12-15hp more.
www.clubrsx.com/threads/k24-swap-vs-k24-k20-frank-numbers.1139554/
@@diymike thank you very much . I really appreciate this ..
you mentioned in the video that A4 and Z blocks will need aftermarket piston rod combo so they do not interfere with the k20 head, but it was unclear if that is also the case on the A1 CRV block. can the head be installed to the stock short block without any interference?
Your final price tally, what does it include? Turbo kit as well? 4piston racing 1000hp built motors cost about $2500 less...
I don’t know if you’ll see this, but is it possible to use an oil pump out of a k20z3 on the k24a1 block without cutting it?
Thanks for the great video too!
dense with information, this is a quality video
so whats the best for all moter , stock block and head if you were going to get the head ported
Thanks for the video i actually have a k24a8 and my only question to what size piston do you change them too?
Mike, what a great video man, been looking for this info for a long time, so thank you very much. For all of us 9th gen Civic Si Owners, with the “unhappy” k24z7 engine. It’s the same build that for the k24z1? I mean, relocate oil filter, type s oil pump, block oil jet, change pistons, use k24 head gasket ?. Aaand... for the engine management, is the stock ecu with Hondata Flashpro or Ktuner enough ? I’m thinking our engine comes with intake vtec only (yeah, so sad!)
nice I have a crv 2011 I want to put it faster I was thinking a block tsx with the head rsx type S without turbo for daily use what do you think?
I noticed the k24z7 was not mentioned as a block that could be used. Can you not do a k20/k24z7 on a 9th gen si? I have a 9th gen and really wanting to do this. Or is the k24z1 block the same as the k24z7?
No mention of the JDM RBC head/block from the EuroR.
what about pistons ? for high revving and high compression ratio ?
Awesome information! Do you know if you can swap the three-lobe valve train in a two-lobe in the cylinder head?
Correct me if im wrong but the reason each head has different cfm flow rate is because each head has different cam shafts from factory which plays a big part with cfm numbers.
no, when you do a head flow test.. there are no camshaft installed in the head.
Any recommendations on bearings and gaskets???? I know that there are some that are bad and don’t hold up but I want to know the top brand or best bang for your buck