As a general rule, 308 is higher pressure than 762 nato. If a rifle is chambered in 308, it should easily handle 762 nato. The opposite might not be the case, however.
A few mods: You can take that picatinny rail off, replace with a regular handguard. Take off the fat front sight and replace with the M1A "Scout" front sight. The "Scout" sight is taller than the standard National Match front sight but is same width (thin) as the National Match sight. Also replace the large rear peep with a standard size or NM peep. Should help with those long range shots.
A few years back I bought the Socom II and I just had to remove all the railing which added a lot of extra weight. I have taken it in a couple of hog hunts and it has brought down both with one shot. The problem that you encountered most likely is due to the ammo and not the rifle. I had the same problem with the 7.62x51 147 grain bulk ammo. Good video.
That’s awesome man! I thought about that when making this video because I’m also going on a hog hunt soon and want to take a rifle with good stopping power. It was definitely a combination of the metal mags and needing to be lubricated but the ammo was probably also it. Super reliable rifle and I need to make another video to redeem this one! Thanks for the comment man!
10 years later, I still lose sleep on a great deal. The Fort Bliss PX had a Socom 16 in with a winter camo pattern for $1,400. I want to say it was used but lightly if I can remember the conversation correctly. I still want one, but the price tag is definitely up there.
My dealer had a going out of business sale. I went there after they had closed. Gave the husband (Vietnam Vet USMC) & wife hug. Their German Shepard had one more nibble on my leg. The owner told me to go to the back with him. He handed me a box that had a slightly used Socom. Told me make him an offer. $700. Both the wife, husband, and dog have gone to their ranch in the sky. Still got that rifle. Miss them.
I have an older M1a. I believe 1979. Be aware if you buy an older one late 70's early 80's it could be a grenade. When Springfield started running out of USGI parts they got sloppy. Cast bolts were used on some rifles. Good news is the recall is still active. I bought one few years ago, did some research and contacted Springfield. They replaced barrel and bolt, is good to fire .308 now. They even put my bayonet lug back on😃
Is this a lubrication issue? It looks pretty dry. I'm pretty surprised as I believe it was developed by special operations looking for a CQB version of the M-14. The fact it cant double tap is ridiculous. Nice review, thanks for the honest approach.
A combination of it being dry and the spring in the metal mags, so yes, I typically get sponsored these firearms and was told it was taken care of pre hand, although you see what happened. SO yes it’s a solid rifle, I will definitely be making another video to try to redeem this one! Thanks for the feedback man!
@@philhagoes9339 I’m not actually 100% sure I can definitely reach back out and check, it was just what was given along with the rifle, I was going to buy a few new mags and better ammo for the next video but I’ll definitely keep you updated!
"Dual chambered" So... normal? I hesitate to say "every", but just about every .308 rifle can shoot 7.62x51. My bolt actions, my M14's (Springfield and Bula), my PTR-91, my FAL... all .308, all eat surplus M80 and European 7.62 like normal. And a max effective range of 400 yards sounds like a shooter issue. 16" barreled .308's can hit 600 yards easy. They're only held back by the sighting system, and the SOCOM comes with a crappy front sight.
Was just trying to elaborate for those that may not have known man, and was going off max range according to Springfield armory, i didn’t want to get into what it can or can’t do, just going by the manufactured stats, but i greatly appreciate the comment and feedback!
Cool video! I own one. Cons? Sure, there may be some minimal cons, but those rounds not cycling isn’t one of em. Not the rifle. Definitely the ammo. You get what you pay for when you buy this rifle. It’s not a competition shooter, although you can turn them into one with some mods.. (The M1A, that is. Not so much the SOCOM with the 16”, obviously.) With this rifle, You pay for a robust battle rifle that’s reliable as hell and one hell of a thumper. That’s what you get. Love my SOCOM16. It’s just fun and cool and pretty practical in the right hands and right situation. Careful if you ever decide to put a can on it. Most often they have some blowback unless you do some very specific modifications. Definitely worth looking into.
I greatly appreciate the feedback man! It definitely was a combination of the mags and ammo, that I have no doubt. I only wish I could’ve done this rifle the justice it deserves in showing off its talents
Cool rig, but to be blown away that it cann shoot 762 or 308 i dont quite understand. Its no different the havin an ar in 556, theyll shoot 223 or 556, or havin a 357, itll shoot 38 special... lol
Dude there is nothing significant about this rifle handling both .308 and 7.62 they are essentially the same. Any rifle chambered in 308 can shoot both.
There is no reason to be that way about it man, there are people out there that didn’t know, I’m simply trying to inform them of that. The videos are created for everyone not just specifically one type of people.
@@Halcyon1861 Absolutely...however, I'm guessing that is why you typically don't see many 7.62x51 (only) rifles made/sold in the US. In fact, I can't remember EVER seeing one. I'm not even sure military-issue weapons are only 7.62x51 these days. In the civilian market it certainly wouldn't make much sense to do so.
@@Halcyon1861 Also...there might be a bit of legal/political stuff to do with the differences between NATO designations versus US designations. The 7.62x51 IS .308 as far as measurements and construction, but as you said, NATO designation "allows" for lower pressure, which in-turn requires subtle differences for 7.62x51-only weapons. For example, those cheap M-14 knock-offs from China or Uzbekistan might blow up in your face if you put a .308 round in them 😂
@@OfficialWhiskey we know what you meant I did laugh though 😂👍😉I only jealous as the only semi automatics allowed in my country are 22 LR and magnum and shotguns and pistols we have M1 , AR15 , AK etc but unfortunately they are straight pull , but i do have a custom Springfield 1903 plus others 👍
I am so sick and tired of people saying that they can’t show shit on CZcams just because they’re guns there’s plenty of channels that show everything such bullshit
Thanks for the video and your time in presenting information. Much appreciated. Have looked at the Soccom for quite awhile but the lovely wife bought me an M1A which is an awesome rifle/gift as well so I’ll be thankful. Keep up the good work, learn as you go. All the best.
As a general rule, 308 is higher pressure than 762 nato. If a rifle is chambered in 308, it should easily handle 762 nato. The opposite might not be the case, however.
Right on, Thanks!
A few mods: You can take that picatinny rail off, replace with a regular handguard. Take off the fat front sight and replace with the M1A "Scout" front sight. The "Scout" sight is taller than the standard National Match front sight but is same width (thin) as the National Match sight. Also replace the large rear peep with a standard size or NM peep. Should help with those long range shots.
You can also put a “kick killer“ recoil pad on the rifle to extend the length of pull a little bit. This also reduces the already reduced recoil.
Thank you for this! I was given this rifle to review, but planning on getting a M1A for myself and doing some much needed upgrades!
My Socom is in a Vltor stock & I really love it.
I have a Scout Squad in a Sage EBR Chassis & it’s a heavy pig😂
Oh that’s awesome brother! And I bet! Haha
A few years back I bought the Socom II and I just had to remove all the railing which added a lot of extra weight. I have taken it in a couple of hog hunts and it has brought down both with one shot. The problem that you encountered most likely is due to the ammo and not the rifle. I had the same problem with the 7.62x51 147 grain bulk ammo. Good video.
That’s awesome man! I thought about that when making this video because I’m also going on a hog hunt soon and want to take a rifle with good stopping power. It was definitely a combination of the metal mags and needing to be lubricated but the ammo was probably also it. Super reliable rifle and I need to make another video to redeem this one! Thanks for the comment man!
10 years later, I still lose sleep on a great deal. The Fort Bliss PX had a Socom 16 in with a winter camo pattern for $1,400. I want to say it was used but lightly if I can remember the conversation correctly. I still want one, but the price tag is definitely up there.
I’d definitely lose sleep too man, hopefully one day there will be another chance for you, though the price tag is definitely high!
My dealer had a going out of business sale. I went there after they had closed. Gave the husband (Vietnam Vet USMC) & wife hug. Their German Shepard had one more nibble on my leg. The owner told me to go to the back with him. He handed me a box that had a slightly used Socom. Told me make him an offer. $700.
Both the wife, husband, and dog have gone to their ranch in the sky. Still got that rifle. Miss them.
@@juicyfruit6311 they sound like great people
Palmetto State will usually have some Socom 16's for 1500. They're out right now but hopefully they'll be back with some soon.
I have an older M1a. I believe 1979. Be aware if you buy an older one late 70's early 80's it could be a grenade. When Springfield started running out of USGI parts they got sloppy. Cast bolts were used on some rifles. Good news is the recall is still active. I bought one few years ago, did some research and contacted Springfield. They replaced barrel and bolt, is good to fire .308 now. They even put my bayonet lug back on😃
Awesome advise! I will definitely have to look into this!
So cool! So reliable! Also there’s stocks to make them more ergonomic to optics, lights, etc.
Right! And I want to add more attachments for a future video!
I changed my stock to a Archangel Socom CQB stock
You have to rock the mag
For sure!
It is most definitely the magazine. I ran into that problem with my Socom as well. Make sure you have good quality magazines.
I definitely will next time! Thanks for the advise!
Were you using the 20 rd. Pro Mag?
Nice rifle! Love the camo paint job. Excellent vid, cheers!
Thank you! And actually I was using some cheep medal mags when I should've been using pro mags so lesion learned there!
we love out socom II nice day on the range .
Always!
My complaint on these is the concussion from the compensator.
I’m more impressed with that hair due over the M1A, but over all that M1A is on my bday list.
Thanks brother, pomade held its own for sure and yes the M1A is always a good time!
Is this a lubrication issue? It looks pretty dry. I'm pretty surprised as I believe it was developed by special operations looking for a CQB version of the M-14. The fact it cant double tap is ridiculous. Nice review, thanks for the honest approach.
A combination of it being dry and the spring in the metal mags, so yes, I typically get sponsored these firearms and was told it was taken care of pre hand, although you see what happened. SO yes it’s a solid rifle, I will definitely be making another video to try to redeem this one! Thanks for the feedback man!
@@OfficialWhiskey thanks for the response. Were those SA factory mags?
@@philhagoes9339 I’m not actually 100% sure I can definitely reach back out and check, it was just what was given along with the rifle, I was going to buy a few new mags and better ammo for the next video but I’ll definitely keep you updated!
My socom gets hot even the stock heats up. Does anyone else have this problem?
My dream rifle,sad that we dont have this in Poland.
That is unfortunate, it is an awesome rifle!
7.62 nato is a slightly lower pressure than.308 Winchester. Only difference is that
Nice video. Will it hold zero after dissemble for cleaning?
I would definitely say some optics will some optics won’t but the iron sights should hold the zero regardless!
Yes it will, what makes you think it won’t?
"Dual chambered" So... normal? I hesitate to say "every", but just about every .308 rifle can shoot 7.62x51. My bolt actions, my M14's (Springfield and Bula), my PTR-91, my FAL... all .308, all eat surplus M80 and European 7.62 like normal.
And a max effective range of 400 yards sounds like a shooter issue. 16" barreled .308's can hit 600 yards easy. They're only held back by the sighting system, and the SOCOM comes with a crappy front sight.
Was just trying to elaborate for those that may not have known man, and was going off max range according to Springfield armory, i didn’t want to get into what it can or can’t do, just going by the manufactured stats, but i greatly appreciate the comment and feedback!
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Thank you brotha!
I know you didn’t mean to say 8 pounds 75 ounces, but with a loaded mag, cleaning kit and optic that’s about right.
Right! I did slip up but that’s a good take on it! The more added on only gets heavier!
Adam's arms seems to make a decent .308 for the price
I’ll have to check them out
Cool video! I own one. Cons? Sure, there may be some minimal cons, but those rounds not cycling isn’t one of em. Not the rifle. Definitely the ammo.
You get what you pay for when you buy this rifle. It’s not a competition shooter, although you can turn them into one with some mods..
(The M1A, that is. Not so much the SOCOM with the 16”, obviously.)
With this rifle, You pay for a robust battle rifle that’s reliable as hell and one hell of a thumper. That’s what you get. Love my SOCOM16. It’s just fun and cool and pretty practical in the right hands and right situation.
Careful if you ever decide to put a can on it. Most often they have some blowback unless you do some very specific modifications. Definitely worth looking into.
I greatly appreciate the feedback man! It definitely was a combination of the mags and ammo, that I have no doubt. I only wish I could’ve done this rifle the justice it deserves in showing off its talents
@@OfficialWhiskey right on brother, im sure you will have plenty of fun with it. Cool video, make more!!
I just found your channel & subscribed 👍🇦🇺
I greatly appreciate it!
Fulton Armory will now be your "friend" for information, accessories and M -14 facts.....
Thanks man! I’ll check it out!
Nice brother!
Thanks brother! Get healed up soon!
@@OfficialWhiskey yes sir! Thx
Good video!
Thanks man!
Why can’t ya show loading the mag?
CZcams regulations, Next time I wont let it interfere with the video!
The price tag on that bad boy makes my eyes water.
I thought the very same thing
i love my socom II worth every cent i paid for her ;-)
@@mrsmel269 Seems like an awesome rifle that I just can't afford.
The higher the price, the nicer the nice!
@@d7dun1010 still I cry! LOL
Cool rig, but to be blown away that it cann shoot 762 or 308 i dont quite understand. Its no different the havin an ar in 556, theyll shoot 223 or 556, or havin a 357, itll shoot 38 special... lol
Dude there is nothing significant about this rifle handling both .308 and 7.62 they are essentially the same. Any rifle chambered in 308 can shoot both.
There is no reason to be that way about it man, there are people out there that didn’t know, I’m simply trying to inform them of that. The videos are created for everyone not just specifically one type of people.
Your right 7.62 by 51 an 308 Winchester are the exact same 7.62 by 51 is just the military name
@@hound_baits Actually they are not the same. 7.62 nato specs is lower pressure, thats why its not called .308
@@Halcyon1861 Absolutely...however, I'm guessing that is why you typically don't see many 7.62x51 (only) rifles made/sold in the US. In fact, I can't remember EVER seeing one. I'm not even sure military-issue weapons are only 7.62x51 these days. In the civilian market it certainly wouldn't make much sense to do so.
@@Halcyon1861 Also...there might be a bit of legal/political stuff to do with the differences between NATO designations versus US designations. The 7.62x51 IS .308 as far as measurements and construction, but as you said, NATO designation "allows" for lower pressure, which in-turn requires subtle differences for 7.62x51-only weapons. For example, those cheap M-14 knock-offs from China or Uzbekistan might blow up in your face if you put a .308 round in them 😂
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Thank you!
8lbs 75oz? So 12.5lbs?
It’s actually 8.8 lbs I’m just scatter brained man that’s my bad
@@OfficialWhiskey we know what you meant I did laugh though 😂👍😉I only jealous as the only semi automatics allowed in my country are 22 LR and magnum and shotguns and pistols we have M1 , AR15 , AK etc but unfortunately they are straight pull , but i do have a custom Springfield 1903 plus others 👍
John wick is that you??
No way…well maybe..
Hey I'm over here.
Why won't you look at me?
What are you hiding?
Did I do something to make you mad?
Please look at me.
not too impressed with the shooter, oil that weapon, looks too dry, grease it like a m1 or m14...
All of the weapons are sponsored so I assumed it was already taken care of but thanks for the advice.
I am so sick and tired of people saying that they can’t show shit on CZcams just because they’re guns there’s plenty of channels that show everything such bullshit
I’m just new to making videos on CZcams and wanted to play it safe.
Thanks for the video and your time in presenting information. Much appreciated. Have looked at the Soccom for quite awhile but the lovely wife bought me an M1A which is an awesome rifle/gift as well so I’ll be thankful. Keep up the good work, learn as you go. All the best.
lost 1v1 ez pz
Painful to watch.
Looks like a piece of junk, jam happy
just needs a little love!