Who decides to start nuclear war | Annie Jacobsen and Lex Fridman
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Guest bio: Annie Jacobsen is an investigative journalist and author of "Nuclear War: A Scenario" and many other books on war, weapons, government secrecy, and national security.
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@@marrz8244 Peace Walker?
Re: jamming the president - That's exactly what they did to JFK during the Cuban missile crisis. The advisors wanted him to launch a first strike against Russia, with one general famously stating, "Mr. President, if after a nuclear war there is one American left alive and no Russians, we win." JFK got up, walked out, and turned back to them at the door and said, "And we call ourselves the human race."
i dont believe in it. But i believe Mao really said "communist vicory is worth half of china being dead"
As lex said in the episode, I find it hard to imagine any contemporary president doing that. I could imagine some hesitating or being less trigger happy but if push comes to shove I see them all shoving.
Rfkjr?
She says "be aware of who you are voting for" when it comes to electing a President, meanwhile she says unelected bureaucrats could very well decide to override a Presidential decision if they subjectively believe the behavior behind the decision is "unstable"...so really it doesn't matter who you vote for, does it?
Oh yeah, and the last time we had a "young, forward-thinking President" the CIA took him out, didn't they?
Yeah her statement is odd.Sounds suspicious to me.
That was EXACTLY what I was thinking!!!!!
Who says no one else can take the "biscuit" out of the Presidents wallet and do the job for him.
Welp maybe if jfk wasn't a green upper class guy from a notorious dad who made all his money during prohibition he would have had a chance...banging Monroe and letting drag queen Hoover lord over him. He had no idea what he was up against. The OSS-CIA had helped beat Germany and Japan what was jfk or his family gonna do? Die if they don't comply. They got the message after rfk.
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"In the Nuclear Era, the only enemy is war itself" (Crimson Tide)
There wouldn’t be six minutes. Subs just off the coast launching hypersonic missiles would give seconds of warning, if that. (In my opinion)
There's also a hesitancy to be the one to hit the alarm button, especially after what happened in Honolulu a few years back.
That's why the hole Cuban Crisis was a waste. A couple years later, or maybe at the time, nuke subs were already off the US coast.
We wouldn’t receive any warning because that would cause panic which would disrupt an evacuation.
Only Russia has hypersonic missiles as of today
@@realityhurts8090 India has tested hypersonic missiles, but they are not sub-based.
Russia has the advantage at the moment, but not for long.
If John Bolton became president he’d be dropping nukes on day 1.
The government people worry about Saving Themselves , First .
Which is as expected. They only care about the power of the goverment. Democrats, Republicsns.. everybody. The US military for the past 80 years had this one use, nothing else. Thats why I laugh at people calling veterans heroes. They‘re paid killers for politcians. „Serving my country“ my ass
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Yes. It's the head of the collective. You cut it off everything goes haywire.
Some of you wouldn't survive in a disorganized US of A 😂
It's hard not to get anxious about these weapons. The power they hold is beyond anything else in human history.
Never before have we had the power to basically destroy every major city on the planet at the press of a button.
The state of the world today is just depressing.
Meh…why worry? We can’t do anything about it. Anyway, we’d likely be dead once it happened anyway, so why does it really matter?
2000 yrs ago a man wrote down how this age would end and said it would be by fire, 2 Peter 3.
Didn't make much sense until nuclear weapons were invented.
@@Blue1Sapphire I doubt nuclear weapons was what he had in mind when he wrote that.
@@GamesCooky Many prophecies written back then, were not fully understood. It was when they happened, the understanding was made clearer.
That prophecy is certainly clear in today's world and a very real threat.
In fact another prophecy in Matt 24:22 says," If those days were not shortened, no flesh would be saved".
Certainly much more revelant in today's world of nuclear warheads.
@@Blue1Sapphire Prophecies are like the bible.
Very much up to interpretation.
Take a shot every time she says “my book”
"my book details breaking information that the secretary of defense is a human. Nuclear war, gorbachov, dinner party guests. Where's the young guys to send nukes? Civil servant, fantastical"
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@@user-bu7hh3jd8k you can find this comment in my book
I get chills every time she says "launch on warning"
launch on warning (LOW), military strategy that allows high-level commanders to launch a retaliatory nuclear-weapons strike against an opponent as soon as satellites and other warning sensors detect an incoming enemy missile.
Another issue with having a potential commander refuse orders to launch from the president is that if your enemies know this they have an incentive to conduct a first strike. You need to convince the enemy that any strike will be retaliated against, no questions asked.
Here's an idea. Tell the truth, treat countries with respect and Stop rooting for war.
The U.S. wants to rule the earth. The alternative is incomprehensible to them.
Are you serious? Tell that to China, a nation that plays 6 moves ahead and has for thousands of years.
@ChatGPT1111 you concentrate on China. I'm going to concentrate on the country I live in. Good luck
Sounds like what Trump was doing
What about the military industry complex how else are they going to make money ware is all the haters going to work not everyone will die you might get lucky
I have a hard time believing this 6 mins of chaos, as its being portrayed, hasnt been simulated in every way, shape and form possible.
It has been simulated, wargamed, and studied for decades. Once someone pops a nuke, whether it be tactical or strategic, the overwhelming tendency in the "simulations" end up with major exchanges. It's a problem, a big one, and opens many avenues for accidents, incidents, mal actors, etc. to at worst case do something to start it. If you doubt anyone would deliberately start a nuclear war, check out the "Millenials Religious Sect" in Iran.
How do you know what you don't know has been simulated? Is a simulation run 5 years ago by other people that have moved on of any use?
As someone who’s familiar with government. They almost certainly have training exercises at a regular frequency and varying scope.
No one was asking you to make the decision. The decision has been made for you- now we rely on you to defend.
You get to the point where you are under attack, you don't have much time for discussion of strategy. At most, you decide on a prepared plan and give the order.
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Exactly, just having a couple new major nuclear foes than we did 3 years ago, increases our chances of annihilation by one or two orders of magnitude. We no longer have the time to take the position that it is probably an error, so let's check to see if it is. We fooled around and found out that our foes do have the resolve to develop hypersonics and then we dared them to field those weapons. In 2024, all we have is oh geez, better take out the other half of the world because our half is gone too.
I’ve read every single one of Annie’s books and LOVED them. She’s a great writer. I’m looking forward to her book nuclear war when it comes out next week
She's a Trump hater going on about "behaviour" and answers questions with "buy my book".
In nuclear conflict, i want a calculated cut throat winner at the wheel: TRUMP.
It comforts me to think that in the darkest days of war. Absolutely nothing is happening in most parts of the world.
Ignorance is bliss, ain't it? American medias don't report on half of what's going on around the world...and there's plenty
Ultimately, our fate depends on our willingness to not push one maniac to his limit. We don't have a clue what his limit even is, yet we keep poking him in the eye.
"I would defy orders". Lex would get us slayed.
What a lazy comment to make, as much as I can't stand the current President, somebody has to be in charge. You can't have layers of burocracy when it comes to something that needs Immediate response. Also some commander on a Sub has no idea what information the President has when ordering that launch. The country could literally be burning...
@rdawgz866 yeah....you've never served. When you are given an order, you expect higher to have done their part. The military is a machine. You don't do what YOU want because feelings.
@@ramtron1775 100% agree with you, for this guy to say he would refuse an order that can affect the existence of the country or even the world is crazy
@@rdawgz866 ah...ok bud. I understand. Lexs comment was lazy. Cheers
What are you guys talking about? And these two. It's not like that. There is a system and protocols. Safety measures and procedures.So if the order is to launch,it is the right thing to do in that moment. The problems are the nuclear weapons themselves. They exist,and you can not undo them. We are living in the imperfect world... Greetings to all of you people,from Serbia...
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This is not the complete question. The part they miss is "who is responsible for setting the stage for a nuclear event, whether it is an intentional strike/counter-strike, OR error/accident?"
Just the idea that all the pieces are in place for using a nuclear weapon... only needing an event or decision to trigger it... is irrational. "Oops", or "I'm sorry" mean nothing.
We have devolved as a species that this is possible.
Lex, having had some experience with US nuclear strategy and with respect to your guest’s apparent view on that strategy. The following questions come to mind: 1. Is it not more important to ask if we can LOSE a nuclear war rather than whether we can win one? 2. How often, and when most recently, did the President participate in a full scale exercise of the nuclear decision process? 3. Do you really believe that any military officer, STRATCOM Commander or otherwise, should choose to not obey the President’s order to launch a retaliatory nuclear strike? If so, should that same officer also “surrender” to Russia, China or whatever other country launched a first strike against the US? 4. Does you guest have a better process she can describe what our nuclear strategy should be?
No one is launching a first strike. People are so mis informed on this issue now days. Short range tactical is the modern problem. Not long range.
Most people think Nuclear war is a total win, but in reality there is no winner in a nuclear war besides a bragging right. In a war, each side wants to gain population or land or infrastructure, when there aint nothing left after the war, there is no reason to start one in the first place.
First strike is First Strike, regardless of how far away it originated from.Lex avoids the real question, which is, "do we sit here and do nothing while the enemy destroys us?" @@ilovetech8341
There is no game theory, no government, sponsored military exercises or wargames that don’t result in a full exchange of strategic nuclear weapons, basically emptying the stockpile after the first use of a tactical weapon in any theater of war. The tit for tat escalation results in strategic global thermal nuclear war every single time.
Your questions require more than the 6 minutes allotted to answer.
6 minutes is the time it takes for a nuclear missile launch until it hits.
We'll finish this discussion in heaven.
1 kind of person makes strat commander: someone who's made that their military career goal. I could see a dove making that their goal specifically to be the guy there so as to not launch. But then the officer next to them probably shoots them so idk.
I would think they would have drills and tell them any one of them could be a drill just so they have the 'one gun fires a blank' excuse.
15:00 when Lex said no one could possibly obey the order, consider that there are degrees to this. The scenarios are not just “all out war,” or nothing. Limited launches and responses are also possibilities, (as slippery slope they may be)
Honestly if you turned the pod cast more into the ideal of preserving knowledge from the greats before they pass away would be awesome . You could make a digital archive better than any book because you can hear tone of voice laughter and sarcasm
Look up Memoirs of ww2, they do just that.
This attitude actually undermines deterrence because it signals to our enemies that we might not hit back, hoping they will quit.
Interesting segment. I’m looking forward to hearing the whole interview.
For anyone interested look up Stanislav Petrov. The world owes him a debt of gratitude. I wonder if anything similar has happened here in the US.
You're not interested in her books?
One reason we can't get good pres candidates is the way they're treated now. Any minor moral stumble or misdemeanor is magnified by the other side and magnified, they are constantly harassed and persecuted by the press, their family is also harassed
I agree
Yes, they start digging around all the way to your college yearbooks to see if they can find something to embarrass you and/or your family.
I've also thought that this is a huge problem. Someone would have to decide when they are 12 years old that they want to become a politician and then live perfectly to that. Completely unattainable.
@@GreenPancakesYeah, and this reinforces the existing political dynasties and nepotism, like over here in the UK where most Tory politicians went to the same expensive private school and studied the same thing and all know eachother, basically bred from birth to be in politics.
Good point That's why you end up with total losers as presidential candidates and the same is true for the Congress.
I've heard (during the Cold War)Argentina is the safest place to be at in the event of a nuclear war. Can anyone tell me why?And, is it still?
WW 3 would be fought mostly in the Northern Hemisphere.
Not many targets of interest in South America…..maybe Rio, Some in Colombia, Venezuela….
Argentina would be in a large “clear zone”
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@@ilovetech8341you'd be eaten by headhunters
@@benjaminperez7328Right. And what would people down there eat? How do they grow food?
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The same way they grow food now?
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You should interview Moran Cerf on this topic! He has been working with the pope, homeland security that they are trying to change how the choice is made
6min is just a reaction time to put into practice what should already have been defined as part of the Nuclear Doctrine (which should detail processes and targets and type of response).
Also, didn’t a study once estimate that like 1/3 of the technicians at the missile stations would refuse to turn the launch keys? Makes you wonder if even more than that would refuse in a real time situation.
If nukes were sent at us first there would be no one that wouldn’t return fire. This logic only applies to a first strike scenario
Would they even have time to know if there were nukes inbound?@@matt15saints
No such study in real life. I was one of them. Hear me on this: We *would* launch, no question. And I was then - and now - as far away from a "war hawk" as it's possible to get, but knowing what was about to rain down on the heads of everyone I knew and loved just strengthened my determination to do my duty. No "war hawks" in the silos, by the way. We made sure of it. Those types are too unstable and are never allowed around nuclear weapons.
I wonder why Russia distrusts NATO… 😂
For the people living in fear of nuclear war - remember that the end of the human race can happen in many other ways, some of which are even scarier. There are many doomsday scenarios; like the world's largest volcano eruption, AI, collision with an extraterrestrial object, our own Sun, etc. So many other things can end all life as we know it suddenly and without warning, besides nuclear war. It's simply sadder if we destroy ourselves instead of the reason being something external.
On an individual level, you can die today from thousands of random causes. So it's just too much to even think about, and you shouldn't. There are so many things to fear, that if you think about them, you will never truly live.
The moral of the story is to accept all of these things beyond your control and that you can do nothing about them. Be conscious of your mortality and that this life will one day end, for that is the ultimate truth of your existence. You can't argue with it, only pretend that it's not true or procrastinate your understanding of it.
What follows from this understanding is, a lot of irrelevant bullshit that you think about will go away and you will focus on the things in life that truly matter, because you realize there's no time for bullshit. There's no time to live in fear. Treasure each moment, live truly and accept your death when it comes - there is nothing else you can do even if you wanted to. You've heard that a human life is a story? Just like a story, it's not the beginning or end that matters, that makes it a story, it's the inbetween.
Fear, no for all the reasons you express... but educated and able to vote for people that are in power to appreciate the responsibility... required in my opinion.
Honestly some extremely powerful points there mate !
A lot of a kids these days need to hear these things same as the whole mental health stuff I suffer from bipolar but you can’t let something define you I don’t take medication I train Muay Thai and smoke a little weed from time to time or have a couple drinks with GOOD friends. You can’t spend all this time worrying about things you can’t control, as you say you’ve got to make the story be what counts! The beginning and end is irrelevant , it’s the in between you’re remembered for, so don’t spend year blaming your ‘condition’ go out there and get it!!
But what about zombies???!!!lol!!!
You guys are forgetting about our space based missile defense systems. Remember the"Star Wars Missile Defense Initiative " started under Regan in the eighties? You think they gave up on that ?
Thanks for sharing
- President Biden, you have 6 minutes to make a decision about a nuclear attack.
After 6 minutes.
- What's your decision, Mr President?
- What decision?!
What is the highest level of education you have completed, Les?
“President Trump, there may be a missile strike coming our way, we’re not sure yet bu-“
Trump: launch the nukes. All of them.
“But Mr Trump, we haven’t confirmed ye-“
Trump: LAUNCH THE DAMN NUKES
Thus why I'm always impressed when people say things like why would aliens be interested in us.
It depends on who fires first and how much
One of my favorite authors, H.G. Wells, predicted nuclear wars in his 1914 sci-fi book The World Set Free and was amazingly accurate;
"They did not see it until the atomic bombs burst in their fumbling hands…before the last war began it was a matter of common knowledge that a man could carry about in a handbag an amount of latent energy sufficient to wreck half a city."
The most destabilizing weapon of war that we have currently, is the ground based siloed intercontinental ballistic missiles. Those cannot be recalled, and their positions are well-known and easily eliminated by an enemy. The entire problem with nuclear war is launch on warning because of the “use it, or lose it” catch-22 that six minute decision making window Is entirely dependent upon. The Air Force wants to replace the Minuteman III with something new that will be just as vulnerable and not add a single minute to the short window of decision-making when it comes to actually fighting nuclear war. You could add days weeks and even prevent an all out exchange without a launch on warning Mandate.
Very true what you say.
"Launch on warning" became the practice *because* the land-based forces are vulnerable. When I was first in the nuclear forces and the (then Soviet) missiles were so inaccurate we planned to absorb a first strike knowing we'd still have a large portion of the force intact for counterstrikes, and maybe diplomacy to have a chance. These days the opposition's missiles are more accurate and there are more of them. We are also much weaker now, with far fewer strategic weapons. It's a paradox that as we wound-down the numbers of weapons those remaining became more valuable. Now we can't afford to ignore any threats, so "launch on warning" is the only way.
The launch codes and launch command to ignite a nuclear weapon is ordered to be launched every training cycle sometimes every week so as somebody who holds the keys to the nuclear launch path, you would not know if it was an actual launch or just a training mission so you can’tlogically deny the order to launch the nuclear missiles because you don’t know if it’s for real or if it’s just a trading mission
But with that being said, the Soviet union actually gave the order one day to nuke the United States, and it got all the way down to the rank-and-file keyholder, and the submarine just off the coast of Florida, and he refused to launch the nuclear missiles saving mankind
It wasn’t an order to nuke the US but to use nuclear equipped torpedoes in self-defense. The sub in question was being depth-charged by a U.S. Navy destroyer.
Um nope - practice messages are apparent in the first few seconds. And that Soviet incident you refer-to concerned an officer in one of the C&C Centers inside Russia, and an inaccurate radar indication of a massive missile launch coming over the Pole. An "out of the blue" situation which was the first strong hint that something was wrong. Yes, that officer is a hero. No, the Soviet leadership never did order a nuclear attack.
Great conversation. More people should be talking about this.
I would disobey the order too.... Which is why they'd never put me in that position.
The problem with a widespread nuclear war is not whether it can be fought and won, but that nuclear ammunition runs out long before the war. This is not a war of conquest, but one of weakening or making the enemy unviable. We have never had the capacity to destroy humanity, but with much less than a widespread nuclear war we can destroy current civilizations and the entire structure of comfort and power, of cheap and quality goods...
For this reason, and not because of the deaths, there is no political enthusiasm for a widespread conventional or nuclear war. But such a war is inevitable, like a large asteroid or volcanism.
To her point about Putins paranoia, the dead hand system is a great example. Lets say we get hit by a high powered solar flare, there is a high probability that the system would initiate a full launch without any threat present. Scary stuff.
Paranoia 😂
Jesus Christ your ball deep with the propaganda narratives
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The US satellites in orbit have almost caused an accidental launch once. But no mention of that because she is "unbiased"... Right. Sure.
On the subject of paranoid leaders, I find her statements so one-sided. She says this as though Nato is some peaceful organization that just wants to put massive weapons systems and troops closer to Russia year after year, to foster peaceful relations. Just another worthless communist cow.
It has to be activated first. The system isn’t just left on.
It isn't possible. There is still a analog component to any intercontinental missile launch.
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A great time to revisit Stanley Kubrick's Dr. Strangelove . It speaks to this loudly and clearly.
I think she needs to articulate why she considers a strong and aggressive response to a nuclear attack a mistake or the most risky because it’s not clear to me that such a response wouldn’t be appropriate.
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I imagine the commander would always press that button bc their orders would come with the briefing that a country already used them first, so at that point youll get confirmation that your home is about to be destroyed so letting the attacking nation live while you die will never enter the mind of a human who follows orders enough to be in such a position
is that a Dimebolt on the shelf behind Lex?
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Anyone could launch the A-Bombs, don't kid yourself... Doesn't take much to enter parameters into a targeting system.
Ironic that Lex considers the United States to be uniquely moral in regards to possession of nuclear weapons, despite being the only nation in history to have actually *_USED_* nuclear weapons on other humans.
Wow, bold and italicized. You are serious
This really sounds like a scaremongering piece.
Yet every major conflict and catastrophe was preceded by warnings. This particular conflict is led by one man who fields more nukes and megatons than any one nation, perhaps all the others combined. Oh and half the world's leaders want us to believe he is unstable for good reason.
Putin Bad! Trump Bad! Biden Bad! Basically. She seems to be a shill of the globalist managerial class who want the end of nations and individual freedom on this planet.
The world changes a lot quicker than we perhaps realize.
The 1983 Able Archer incident was a launch on warning scenario; they definitely were not going to absorb a damn thing.
Lex, hands-down, has the best podcast on CZcams.
She's clearly anti-Trump and implies he is somehow less qualified to make a judgment on a live nuclear launch situation than other recent presidents. I reject the premise.
I think they’re all incompetent. It worries me that the US president would have a global impact. Not elected by my country.
@@eileenmcchrystal8471 Some less so than others certainly. But she speaks as if Trump is somehow uniquely unqualified, even less so than Biden? Come on now.
@@dirtypure2023 no problem dear I’m in the U.K. they both seem like balloon heads 🤷
@@eileenmcchrystal8471 It's slim pickings for quality candidates throughout the Western world. Almost every major option is a blatant partisan now, no one genuinely seems to simply have the people's best interest at heart. Like it's by design. I quite like Vivek Ramaswamy in the US but I think it was the right call to bow out this race since Trump is clearly destined.
@@dirtypure2023 I know what you’re saying 👍
Love how she says, "One candidate has a cognitive problem, and the other candidate has a judgment one." What are you talking about??? She's only describing Biden. I'm no Trump fan, but he did not have any judgment problems. He had the country running strong.....meanwhile Joe is on the verge of ww3.
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@RolexMan-nr6fg I couldn't bring myself to vote last time and I'm voting Kennedy this time. But if you can't see that there was relative peace in the world (outside of America) under Trump and Biden appears to not give a s*** . Mr Rolex man your bias has done blinded you.
when will you all learn it does NOT matter whos in office. this point in human history was envitable. ww2 never ended folks. russia, china, europe and the usa were all just arming up for the next one. godspeed everyone.👽
Trump had great judgement. People hate on Trump because it's a "fad," or it's something you're "supposed to do."
Trump wanted to nuke a hurricane.
I could imagine the stratcom commander watched this clip at some point given his position and it might just have some impact on their decision making process and execution of orders.
Many times, if i hear a strange sound in the sky, like the rumble of a plane or something like that, I Imediatly think, "Oh no, is that Russia? Is everything over?" And then im like,"Phew, just a plane. "
I’m exactly the same. I live basically in the middle of a triangle where each point of that triangle is an air force base, all of which would be likely targets in a nuclear exchange. So when I hear loud sounds in the sky there is always that question of “is this it”?
Did neither of them see War Games? She sounds just like folks used to in the early 1980s
A lot has changed since the 80s. People are misinformed.
Putin said something about like “we won’t be the fist to launch a nuclear weapon, we won’t be the second or even third “
Putin loves his power and his loots, he would not throw it all by starting a nuclear war.
Iran is a totally different thing. These zealots seek martyrdom...
And his word is worth what now? He has literally been razing Ukrainian cities to the ground because..... Soviet Union? 😂 Seriously
@@smithnwesson990 meanwhile usa destroyed dozen of countries and only country to every use nuclear bomb, the bad guy is not russia or putin but USA deep state :) everyone with common sense and logic can see it. USA also letting israel murder 10s of thousands in Gaza, its disuqusting how the usa and west differs ppl and ppl.
@@smithnwesson990 Agreed. Without demonizing him as so many do, it's very fair to observe that he has zero fidelity to the truth. He is wholly untrustworthy.
@@smithnwesson990by iranian drones whole cities? Your word is same like his.
1st 3 minutes - No Annie, no targeting decisions within those "6 minutes." All of those decisions have already been gamed-out and the various strategies formalized. The Plans are done ahead of time. Faint possibility of choosing between a few Plans but likely it's just a "go" or "no go."
The question is WHEN not IF we will see nukes used again.
When commanded to launch a retaliatory strike in response to being under attack, Lex would refuse the order. Thank God Lex isn't given that power.
A Russian man responsible for the actual launching disobeyed orders to fire on the United States. Their radar thought a flock of birds was a nuke. He saved humanity.
Can I ask you what is the point of a retaliatory strike? I mean you would never see or ever be aware of the impact of the strike. It's kind of pointless to launch a retaliatory strike since it would bring absolutely no benefit to you.
@@user-jm8fw3ir1t Are you stupid? If a bully punches you, the punch you give back is "retaliatory" in nature. You don't feel the punch that the bully receives but it stops you from possibly getting pounded more without mercy. If you just sit there and take it, you might lose your life. A retaliatory strike isn't just for retribution, it's defensive in nature.
@@user-jm8fw3ir1t 1. What do you think would be the answer of the victims of the nuclear strike? What would be the answer of their surviving families?
2. The idea that a retaliatory strike is pointless... imagine the day after America is a victim of a nuclear attack and fails to retaliate. Vladimir Putin, Kim Jong Un, the Ayatollahs, Xi Jinping. Imagine your future where these are the new masters of the world's destiny.
3. The projection of resolve prevents that you do not have to answer question 1 and question 2. That is the nature of deterrence.
First it acts as a deterrence if the other side knows you'll respond in kind. Second, the first attack may just be a few missiles so a responding strike neutralizes any further attacks.
This author is so full of herself. She acts all humble, but she's really just condescending. She's just regurgitating old history like she's the first one to ever think of it.
Agreed. Very unlikeable.
Lol. Using nuclear weapons isn't about being the "big dog" it is obedience thru fear...
I think its feature thay allows for nuclesr deterrent and the big of someone actually launched a nuclear weapon. Take cold war or today of Russia/ussr thought they could cripple nato/US(or vice versa) without threat of erupting a nuclear war they probably wpuld strike first
One’s a senile warmonger and the other kept us out of multiple wars but has judgement issues? Just because some partisan judge or prosecutor tells you so doesn’t make it true 🤔
lol what wars has trump kept america out of.
Ah yes, the hasty pullout of Afghanistan, leaving our allies in such a rush, the entire system collapsed basically overnight. Such warmongering going on there.
@@LoganChristianson he’s funding 2 wars right now, so yes by definition ole senile is a warmonger
@@LoganChristianson also I think everyone agrees with pulling out of Afghanistan, the issue was the incompetence with which there was no strategy.. he also tried to blame trump for that and said it was his idea 😂
@@rklkifySyria
The song "Russians" by Sting comes to mind:
"There is no historical precedent
To put the words in the mouth of a president
There's no such thing as a winnable war
It's a lie we don't believe anymore."
Absolutely no chance he’s stupid but not that stupid. America will be 20 years + ahead of them technology wise
Lol Lex, Agist? You mean the late 20/30 somethings with Low Vocal Burnout Pitch chirping in the ears of the poltical appointees that chirp into Dark Brandon's brain(what's left of it)
For him to choose from the Denny’s type menu
Awesome
She has the sexiest voice ❤
Come on..with the knock against trump. Are u kidding me. "Non presidential ". Are you a joke lady
No respect!!! Biased obviously
As a career military officer who spent his entire professional career with the DoD (41 yrs) and held an active TS/SCI for 33 of those years, I can tell you that civilians do not fundamentally understand how we career military think. As Annie said , it basically not possible that STRATCOM/CC defies the President's launch order ...
Dr. Strangelove, or how I learned to stop worrying and love the bomb is getting rewatched now
Everybody is a critic until they are being criticised. No critic has the guts to even run for president
T R U M P T R A I N
A L L A B O A R D
RFK Jr. looks better and better every day.
Get real.
Dismiss him at your own peril
Compared to everyone else you are correct. Check out Kennedy's State of the Union. Much more in touch and insightful then anyone else in the running.
He’s a Zionist who has one of the most radical rabbis as his advisor. He’s a hypocrite when it comes to war and genocide
Rfk Jr is a known Russian shill. He is paid directly by Russia and its ON PAPER
14:55 would you defy if it was a counter strike to 20 nukes Lex?
That’s why I think no commander would hesitate. A first strike would probably cause hesitation. But a retaliatory strike command would be followed without question
@nicolaerazvan5185 a nuke doesn’t automatically knock out communications. Just launching a warhead won’t take down the power grid. We’d have time to communicate and respond. Like they said 6 minutes. the top military brass would know the situation. The person whose job it is to coordinate a retaliation would by definition have to know what was going on. Don’t get into the weeds and over complicate it. NORAD would call the pentagon, who would call the White House who would then give the order. The nuclear triad would be put on immediate standby as soon as nuclear launch was detected. The nukes don’t just magically go up. It takes a human to prepare the launch sequence. So people would again just by definition have to be informed of the situation. Nobody outside of military command would be giving information to the president and others whose job it is to “press the button”. So idk what you mean by “who’s feeding them information & who’s doing the feeding”. It’ll literally be the joint chiefs of staff just like every other military crisis
Yeah, Lex is only thinking of first shot; I doubt the launch codes are given unless attacked first right now.
One thing is for sure: Lex Friedman would not make an excellent Commander of USSTRATCOM. Once the missiles are flying your way the decision to counter-launch does not require philosophical contemplation
In the graphic for this clip the missiles shown are Soviet SA-3 anti aircraft missiles. They’ve got nothing to do with nuclear weapons.
We have never been closer to nuclear war as we are now. I believe that the current situation is far worse than the Cuban missile crisis.
Read a book.
FFS.
Russians are hell-bent on restoring the Soviet Empire. If that should fail?
Atheists will not commit suicide, earth is all they have. But there is a new threat, the fanatics seeking martyrdom.
@@benjaminperez7328 Wow, what an insightful comment.
@@ether23-23
I don’t suffer fools gladly…….like you 🫵🏼🖕🏼
remember the South Park episode with the San Francisco people sniffing their own farts all the time? that's this woman.
😂😂 South Park perfectly described woke leftoids in SF...
Sad thing is there are to many nukes in existence today, impossible to get rid of them
There are no warmongers in a nuclear scenario. Everyone loses and they know this.
There is only one President in my lifetime that has not involved us in a foreign war. So, I would argue that while he might hurt feelings, he didn't get our young ones killed for pointless wars. I would agree that he could have communicated differently, but he did it his way and that is why he will be on Mt. Rushmore one day. I enjoyed this video, it was informative and if at all possible maybe do another with Ms. or Mrs. Jacobsen she seems to know her stuff.
Afghanistan, the entire time.
Instead of concede the election, he attempted to up end the democratic process and convinced a minority of Americans to no longer have faith in our elections. He is not a true American and his followers are false patriots.
@@randykintzley5923are you dumb? He’s referring to any NEW wars.. not to mention trump plan was to slowly withdrawal to get our troops out. He started that process towards the end of his term, Biden took over and decided to pull all out at once and look how that ended up, complete failure lost soilders and weapons. Research before you speak next time.
Get off the kool-aid
Ignore her. Invite Joel Skousen on for an interview on policy of nuclear war
Joel knows his stuff. Too much old misinfo floating around this issue. People are still going off 1960s info.
Fantastic topic
"If i was commander of strat com", you or i would never be allowed to be commander of strat com. That's exactly the point.
There is no question that Trump has exercised far better judgment in foreign affairs, preventing now existing wars , and warning about the real existential threat of nuclear war as opposed to CO2..
I don't think Trump has an issue with his judgment! He has demonstrated excellent judgment of the political swamp we have in Washington and he has demonstrated that his foreign policy is anti war and non interventionists which is very good judgment in my opinion.
Exactly, their assessment of Trump’s judgement is flawed as Trump actually promoted peace. Abrahamic Accord?
13:55
"non-presidential..." meaning that they defer to the military who are "jamming" to attack?
what if the president is the one who doesn't want to attack... making them unpredictable?
Trump has judgement issues? TRUMP 2024 AND FOREVER
Kennedy 24
Rfk Jr is a known Russian shill. He is paid directly by Russia and its ON PAPER
Circumstances.
My advice to you after the bombs have hit is to go to the grocery store and grab salt, sugar, rice, pasta, dried beans, and most importantly water.
I sure hope its on a Monday so I dont have to go to work.
On a monday NIGHT. so we can all enjoy the fireworks
Real talk listen 🎧 up ⬆️
I really hope the nuclear threat is just an intimidation tactic, otherwise it will be end of humanity.
Carl Sagan’s “Pale Blue Dot”
Enough said.
I really appreciate the author's emphasis on moral leadership. It would be a big breath of fresh air to have leaders who could be trusted to do the right thing for our nation and the world. We have seen the decline that occurs when lawmakers spend the majority of their time attacking each other and spinning the attacks into "making America great again". The loss of credibility and legacy is immediately apparent. The thought of entrusting an arsenal of nuclear weapons to our elected representatives in a world primed for larger conflict is disturbing.