Is the government betraying disabled people? Feat. Shani Dhanda | Jeremy Vine
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- Is the government betraying disabled people over its plans to change how they work for people who receive personal independent payments?
Jeremy is joined by Shani Dhanda to explain what the system is like and clear up common misconceptions about PIP.
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This government has betrayed everyone,except the rich 😢
It's an entertainment business ran by the wef
So true
And the boat people
Fully agreed 👍
Spot on.
The disabled guest ( finally) speaks facts and is 100% correct
People who live through disability every day and mental illness are the best people to speak about this, and give their opinion and advice about these matters, but that won't happen, the government will get somebody who has no idea about these things to decide who is going to have their money stopped, and who goes back to work, it's ridiculous if they don't have the right medical people to assess these disabled and mentally ill.
They're focussing on mental health because you cant see it.
My son had tbi at 16 .because we worked hard to help him eat
Drink.walk.talk.learn again.his thought process was very slow it would take 1hr for him to answer questions.that take 5 minutes.they wanted answers but didn't want his carer to speak for him.2 days utterly exhausted afterwards. They said his decide on what he says so since dla went to pip they give him lowest benefit.no way has he ever been able to survive financially since.
90million ppl in uk minium but 0.2% get pip.disgrace totally.what about our vetrans .ptsd.everyone needs support.they already weed ppl out if not valid.everyone should be able to receive a sick note at some time.its limited anyone.they did away with disabled or less likely employable they cut of work recovery.my son would have got better support if in wheelchair.
They have every right to question the benefit system towards it.
Because you can't see it, that makes it easier for people to fake it too
Not really they need diagnosis and you can see psychotic episodes and autistic traits and such. This will get people hurt. And it's certain types of mentally ill people who fake it essentially like bipolar types. They tend to cause theyre paranoid or suffering psychosis@@LivingOnaPrayer123
@@LivingOnaPrayer123Have you any idea how hard it is to claim PIP? I fought for 2 years. The private assessors LIE on applications. They refuse 90% of claims. Nobody gets it in a shake of a ducks tail. It takes perseverance. It wears the claimant down, to the point were they give up. Which is exactly what the Gestapo want.
People commit suicide because of depression it is serious, actor robin Williams committed suicide and he was a millionaire.
he also had a nasty disability, which is why he did it. he was getting a type of parkinson's dementia
Agreed 👏
I read the medication the depression meds can kill might not be suicide??
Very true
@@susanstreet1 a weird side effect is some people is that Anti Depression meds can increase suicidal thoughts.
I've come off them, recently, and feel better for it.
Sunak the bully, who needs to be gone asap
He will get £££200,000.00pcm retirement benefits and no taxes vats payed, then full pension plan!
Married into billions..What do you expect from rich idiots
Unfortunately, I don't have the confidence in people to vote out the Tories. So many people want them out, yet so many people just don't vote, because they think their one vote won't make a difference. When you add up all those "one won't make a difference" people... It really does!
@@NattyLady its true but no1 wants this jobs especially the way the country is now and the uk 🇬🇧 laws don’t protect anyone from top level to bottom level,
'SuNAK the SNAKE'.
As a child I was abused by a neighbour . I'm now 53 and struggle to leave the house because of anxiety and panic DISORDER. Which is different to anxiety and depression. I'm on a waiting list of 4 years just to have an appointment for a mental health assessment. ITS NOT MY FAULT. Now I'm anxious about seeing the postman incase I get my pip removed. This government are evil.
The wef is in control theyr exist and entertainment business
Even soap operas have done this story line so they know that people have suffered from this. They care but the crap government don't care at all and also they have never done a proper day's work in their life.
I believe, or at least hope, that a person with your back story, diagnosed conditions and relevant symptoms is not going to be within the remit of what the government (if you can call them that) are trying to tackle with this.... the same goes for people with physical disorders, diagnosed / or under medical diagnosis path - psychological disorders, diagnosed / diagnosis path personality disorders AND / OR diagnosed / diagnosis path - learning disabilities. These measures are hopefully not going to affect these categories. (fingers crossed)
No, my understanding of these measures are for the people who just want to go to the doctor and be signed off with anxiety and depression, no formal diagnosis of chronic depressive disorder or similar... or anxiety with no explanatory reasons, diagnosis and not willing to be on the diagnosis pathway for a CHRONIC condition. IF we all stop and remember that PIP is supposed to be for people with LONG TERM health conditions, so surely the qualifying diagnosis' for PIP have to be based on LONG TERM / Chronic / Recurrent life affecting conditions.
Everybody gets anxious for the future and depressed from time to time because the short / med term outlook is so bleak.... But that is not the same thing as Chronic Severe Depression, it is also not the same thing as somebody who has been suffering with and has been seeking medical help with and diagnosis for Severe Anxiety Disorder with proven history of life affecting symptoms.... Surely we have not come to a point where we can go to visit the GP and tell him that we are depressed and anxious on DAY1 and expect to be applying for PIP on DAY2 ???
Part of the story there in this clip is a young, double-doctorate person who "Cannot find a job", that is not true, the truth is that they cannot find the exact job they want with the exact employer they want for the exact wage they want, so they refuse to go looking for work at all. And when they realise that UC / JSA will be cancelled if you refuse to look for and take offered work (whether it's the job you want or not). So instead they get themselves signed off sick and try claiming disability benefits. That is not right, it is not proper. 1 or 2 generations ago people took whatever job they could get whilst applying for the jobs they wanted to be in... I myself worked in a fruit and veg shop, warehouses, factories, petrol stations, the local meat processing plant whilst attending full-time college (which back then was 9AM - 3PM, 5 days a week, NOWADAYS full time college is only 3 days per week). The youth of today DO NOT even realise how easy they have had it and the system shock for them is contrary to everything they have been brainwashed into them since starting school.
GUESS WHAT Gen Z .... School lied.... You cannot just have everything you want, you cannot just walk out of school / college / university, and into your high flying career without starting at the bottom of the ladder .... YOU are owed nothing in life until you earn it... so get out there... get whatever job will pay the bills and START EARNING IT.
I was tortured by a peodo who my mother let babysit when I was 4 ... I had teeth pulled out and fingers cut off .. My own father relieved himself on me when I lay dying...
I now at 48 have agoraphobia so I can totally relate to what you suffer ..Yet a man who married a billionaire has no idea what suffering is...
Omg I was tortured by evil aged 4 and youtube deleted my comment...
How evil is youtube
That guy needs to shut up! People like me who are living with crippling mental health will end up ending their lives if this happens!! It is NOT an excuse, it is a genuine battle with your own brain every single day. Stop the damn stigma! It's no bloody wonder so many people have mental health issues. I have to fight to get out of bed every morning. I struggle to leave my house. I am also disabled physically
They want all mental health people to commit suicide thats was they want so they dont need to pay them
Hope you all have a breakdown and see for yourselves
Wilfred talks so much sh'ite.
yup he sure does
Remember this is the guy who not so long ago said "let migrants drown" and even he knew the shock in the studio as they quickly went to a break and he didn't open his mouth for the rest of the show. Surprised he was ever allowed back on our screens
He’s a disgrace. How dare he speak like that to the gentleman caller who’s served in the military.
What person would wish to work for someone who has zero empathy for the sick and disabled?
Maybe he would give them a job tomorrow, but he'd also fire them the day after.
@@PastaSauce. Standard Tory, no matter what you've done, the moment you're unprofitable, you have no value to Tories.
What about the mp who spent 32 million pounds on refurbishing her office on tax payer money ? Why hasnt this been investigated ?
Do not invite this guy again he is so aggressive and disrespectful.
Typical Tory just like James Max, Mike Parry and that wee shite Albie Amankona
The government is full of those type unfortunately and the world
Hes also arrogant and ignorant too
As for the guy Wilfred saying anxiety needs to be clamped down on. He needs to realise there is a very big difference between anxiousness and an anxiety disorder. Look at the case of Errol Graham. He had severe anxiety to the point he was housebound. They stopped his benefits and he starved to death alone in his flat. That guy is dangerous.
He needs to get back to crop picking. I looked after my partner for over 20 years and she was diagnosed as chronic anxiety, he simply hasn't got a clue
He would never leave the house again, if I made as much effort to give him anxiety as the government have everyone else.
Man thats horrible. I havent been out by myself in over 10 years. If it wasny for my parents that could be me. My social anxiety is so bad!
@@user-iw2bn3gz1n Then use your voice and register to vote and vote them out. You can apply for a postal vote or vote by proxy online. If we all vote together we can kick them out. I hope you feel better soon.
Well said, Wilfred talks about depression and anxiety as it it the Monday blues. He needs to go and educate himself on the subject he feels so qualified to talk on.
Dehumanizing the most vulnerable in society is abhorrent it's disgusting!
Absolutely horrendous betrayal! There's already been a massive increase in suicides and this sort of crap encourages exactly that sort of result!!!!!!!!!
Its what there aim is. Do you really think that the toffs in the Tory government will care? They don't care and don't want to listen. They "hate" and despise poor people as it is. The type of people we have in government are not fit to be running the country. We need the Tories out once and for all.
How dare he..my closest friend who was incredibly successful in life just recently took his own life becauae he cpupd no longer continue! No one knew he was suffering. It's a silent killer and invisible condition. What an ignoramus! Clueless.
Sorry about your dear friend. I have diagnosed Depression from my teenage years, I have been on antidepressants all my life, never had a break. That Wilfred, more or less saying that people need to get a grip. Depression is a horrific Mental illness. God bless your friend, so sorry. ❤❤❤
I’m sorry your friend felt like he had no choice but to take his own life. I hope everyday more people in his situation get better support so they don’t feel the same as your friend 😢
I am autistic l understand about meltdowns l had good counselling to understand my condition please understand our condition and stop judging us.
My 20 year old son has Asperger's syndrome adhd social phobia extreme generalised anxiety disorder
Low moods no confidence and sleep problem
His meltdowns can be triggered by bright lights loud noises crowds even smells
He has an educational plan and is in special education
only The Daily Mail and Express will judge you.
I'm 32 i have Asperger's and I can do alot of things and seem normal to anyone that doesn't know me but I've been in job positions and completely broke down.
@@JosephMichaelsMusicthis is my point there is nothing in place to help people it's all very well stopping their support but where's the help they need?
The most severe people will have a hell of a time because of this, well said to the two lovely young ladies here x
There is a huge difference between depression and anxiety disorders and being down and a little fed up. It is purely discrimination against those with mental health issues. As someone who has suffered from depression but has always worked - it is not just dealing with the normal "ups and downs" of life.
The Tories created the anxiety through Covid. They cranked up fear and anxiety to the max and the aftermath has been overwhelming. Of course there will be minorities of folk who were fuloughed etc again done so by the Tories, who decided to jump on the mental health band wagon. This is incredibly frustrating as it's now having a massive impact on the true genuine disabled and those with neuro divergent conditions considered hidden disabilities . These people deserve support not judgement or the hatred sent their way.The Tories and the political classes have taken more from system than any disabled person ever has, they are shameful and a disgrace. What sort of society attacks it most vulnerable Whats next institutionalisation to cut costs. They will pay ar the polls for this and so they should.This is real reason they want rid of the ECHR so that no one has rights and they have a free hand in doing what they want.
yes. meanwhile cameron is swanning about on a private jet and half the tory party pay virtually no tax.
This women just said she had a tumour removed from her spine and his reply is “so there’s no job you can do?” How disgusting
I lost my 9 year old son to leukaemia in 2020 and I am suffering from ptsd, severe trauma, panic attacks anxiety attacks I don’t leave my house and am still living as we were in lockdown
Whenever someone argues for cutting benefits they will say something along the lines of “huge numbers of people”, I’ve never heard anyone say, X% of people claiming benefits are cheating the system.
The argument to cut benefits is always based upon opinion and not evidence.
and they will only use the money they save for a tax cut for the rich etc.
It's very difficult to say "X% of people claiming benefits are cheating the system" by the very nature that claimants cheating the system are going to hide it and won't admit to doing it.
Most of the working class are on benefits these are people who are in work
whay has being young got to do with anything? mental health has no age limit
Because a lot of young people are sitting at home on social media all day making themselves depressed by comparing themselves and their lives to tik tok influences and celebrities. It's a culture now. Also people seeing mental health problems on social media like ADHD and thinking they've got it.
They would be better working
They don't have serious mental health conditions or clinical depression which is disabling
I have profound cerebral palsy, chronic anxiety and depression. I can promise you, depression and anxiety are just as crippling as my CP. Also, I lost two brothers to mental illness.
When I needed help with anxiety I was not in the state to even cope with applying for pip and there was no one there to assist me with it
I worked from 11 until 41. I suffered an accident at work where I was dead for 6 minutes which caused frontal lobe damage. I also suffer COPD, fibermyalge, osteoarthritis, BPD, Autism, Bipolar, Diabetes, and severe migraine. I am housebound and now am feeling really unwell with terror of what all this will mean.
It's no wonder we are all suffering depression with the conservative renning this country.
Yet people keep voting them back in. Go figure.
Its true they wdnt the been in power for 14 years if people stopped voting for them thats British people all over any other country they wd throw them out
Left wing or right wing. The wings are still attached to the same bird! All politicians are just puppets on a string 💜
@@NattyLady In a way I have no sympathy for people who vote Conservative.
The government have played a huge part in people's mental health declining with all the madness they put us through
It is sicking that the government is focusing on mental health, especial making anxiety sound like one of these things. If you've ever not been able to leave your home because your heart is ringing in your ears and you can't breath, your sweating, the room is spinning or even every thing gone black because your so stressed out by how you feel Or even over time you get out and your hyperventilating, sweating, crying in shops or out side because the light, noise and crowds are bring on your anxiety. It feels like you will die, at times. but the way people in power talks about it it is nothing, not going to affect you. some people can't work with anxiety and lots of mental heath problems even if they wanted to, you can't stay out the house long enough , stand still or contrate. All this home jobs where are they? I think those who are suffering shouldn't be made suffer more. Those that have never suffered anxiety just don't know half of it.
I think those politshit they want the revolution in the 🇬🇧
Unfortunately there's people who are faking it to get off work,54 million was easily defrauded by the Bulgarian people, successful in thousands of claims and awarded millions in non genuine illnesses etc, it showed the government how easily fraud is achieved, now banksm accounts are be monitored soon because of the fraud
The problem is that they will punish eveyone and those that abuse the system will continue to do so and those who are genuine will go without like now. It is so hard to be awarded PIP even with medical evidence.
The Bulgarian gang defrauding 54 million with thousands of claims, providing fake documents, showed the government its easy to defraud the benefits system, unfortunately this is being done regularly, now it will affect the genuine people, who will have benefits stopped and hounded to find work, 1.5 million fit people can't find work, 8 million people in part time work can't find full time work. And the government wants to force millions of disabled people onto the job market. There's only 900,000 jobs available atm, also 1.4 million people arriving annually, the figures aren't adding up
Shania is lovely and really gets it 👏👏👍
PIP made scandals not so long ago where people were being denied PIP in some cases terminally ill and died not longer after. This government has a short memory, this could lead to people being told to go to work or have PIP withdrawn and possibly lead to significant consequences for them or others.
they hope for it callous bastards
the rich get processed and real people with out that support get walked over still.i seen the joke of some people who come from good homes are taking the piss getting paid huge sums of money claiming ill spending every penny on drugs ,and the only thing we noticed was he was a huge dxxxxxxd .
In the last 2 years, 1700 people died within 3 months of refusal of PIP
My Son hung himself in my home was dead for 4 minutes until his mothers CPR worked, he then spent 6 weeks is a Mental Health Hospital and now is home with hardly any support for himself and absolutely none for us.
Sound dreadful but, that’s the conservatives for you. So sorry for your son, also for your family.
Their focus is mental health, not 18 -30 mental health. They got themselves into this mess 18 months ago they said they would stop ESA for all without PIP. so people were asked to apply for PIP and low and behold they were eligible. So these peopleshould have been getting extra for yrs so they goverment have saved a fortune. And PIP how can it be easy when they turn you down if you turn up for the interview ( happened to me) I had just got out of a mental health hospital and was refused. And after being treated for 25yrs.so don't say its easy. How can you possibly separate how the state treats you by the words physical or mental. Illness is a illness
PIP doesn't decide if you are fit or unfit. Only what was ESA did, and now UC under the health care pathway. Like the lady on the panel said, PIP is not an unemployment benefit.
People, who don’t have depression, then get it, good luck getting help.
54 million to the Eastern European group in successful benefit claims in the UK, showed how easily it can be done, that was on an industrial level, but genuine people struggle to get benefits and keep them. That case highlighted the cause for benefits reform,unfortunately those deceitful people will always succeed even with the reforms and genuine people targeted and losing out
There needs to be more therapist and shorter waiting list. This is what the government should be focusing on.
they cut the budgets to everything!
They just want to cut benefits it's nothing to do with anxiety or depression it's disability discrimination by the torys. They would stop everyones benefits if they could get away with it
Shani is a legend!!!
Wilfred talks out of his porthole, as usual. He's a typical Tory. I have Asperger's Syndrome and it compromises my everyday life. With Asperger's, I'm prone to anxiety, depression but I receive no support at all.
I have anxiety and depression too the point I should be claiming PIP but I dont because of the stigma that comes with it and don't think my anxiety could take it being blamed and harassed by people and the goverment why would I benefit and make myself better too have people on the panel like this show and basically blame me "oww it's not you it's the others" and "depression and anxiety aren't real mental illnesses etc.." and I don't why I let those people too get too me I should be claiming the benefit am owed but I don't because of people like rishi I just feel like a failure and after all the suicide attempts now this from the goverment I have never felt less supported by the people who are supposed too be supporting me 😢
I’m so sorry you feel this way. I hope you do get some support soon. Take care of yourself and don’t be too judgmental on your self because you are a worthy person
My 11 year old is suffering with anxiety and depression which is a cause of Autism, education level, and pain. He has had no help. They say he has to have suicidal thoughts to get help. Why allow it to get to far.
Vines shirt gives me anxiety, he needs to understand young people are under more pressure than I was growing up. I hate these tory apologists getting away with spewing lies on TV all day
Yes! These people are the most vulnerable people in this country in what world is taking away pip from these people going to improve there lives they need that money to make their lives bearable this is totally unethical and unacceptable
Lack of living wages, debt, high living costs, homelessness, bad working conditions and working rights, high energy bill, council tax rises in fact rises in every aspect including fuel and food, covid, brexit, war you can go on and on and on under this government. Over worked underpaid, bullying in the workplace. And this man and many like him who are not even medically trained or have experienced anxiety or depression thinks he has the right to know what people are suffering wether it’s young or old, just because he thinks he knows who has it and who dosnt as an employer shows the disrespect and ignorance of mental health and what it is and also what’s caused it, he’s part of the problem. It’s not normal hardships of life that people are struggling with it’s an entire poorly managed and onslaught of problems these people like him others have caused. It’s shameful to be so arrogant
He is also a big part of the problem, many people want to work and would be capable, with adjustments, but most employers have zero interest in employing anyone 'not perfect'.
I admit there are people who will abuse the system, but the great majority of people do not and will need the extra support. Without this, they will deteriote or possibly die.
That's the plan
No one hates the abusers more than the genuine people claiming.
Humanity.
I like how Wilfred thinks it is as easy as going to the doctor, saying I have depression and/or anxiety (very dismissive attitude towards depression and anxiety there), I want a sick note, take it along to the office and that's it, set for life. Have you ever bothered really talking to them as people and asking what is happening for them? Trying to understand, help or offer support? Have you ever experienced these issues yourself?
It is by no means that simple. And it really shows a lack of understanding and knowledge of the process, of the daily life experiences and the reality of life with these issues. Constantly facing that attitude is a big part of it for most people. (Stanford prison experiment). What of those who have been coerced into working when they shouldn't be?
So people have been deemed to need support by the governments own system, but now they're basically being told that we can't afford for them to be ill so they'll just have to be ok? I'm sure if it worked that way, there wouldn't be much to discuss. This is like expecting someone with two broken legs to get up and walk, and stop being so lazy.
Picking arguments with each other doesn't get us anywhere. Neither does unrealistic expectations based on your own abilities, and not the ability of the person who is ill. Why does the blame and anger lay with the people who are ill, and not the people who create and amend our laws please?
It's having to justify the degree of how ill you are that makes it so hostile for people. People constantly questioning and doubting, and the rest. What a shameful act to see someone who is ill, and make them justify it, is this how we treat people now?
Let's not forget how many claimants are taking them to court, still, and having decisions overturned. That is high evidence of wrong decision making (and that's just the people that somehow manage the arduous journey through the system long enough to reach the outcome. They have to fight for every bit of support they get, mostly). Including the people that have passed away due to wrong decision making and neglect from the system that was supposed to offer support and maintain a legal duty of care. A system that has devastated families through the loss of those people, did you know about them Wilfred? Do you know how many of them have been lost since not long before the pandemic to present date?
A system that is reimbursing a lot of people for wrongfully paying them less than they should have been receiving........ For years. That has created mental health problems in people who have never experienced them before contact with the system, never mind people who already struggled with health issues.
Please don't overlook that while mental health may be "invisible" to others, the impact of it is not. It's visible in the changes to that person's personality, demeanor, mood etc. It is also visible in the physical impact it has upon their body. Mental health impacts physical health, and vice versa.
For instance, living at a constant high level of stress, produces more cortisol. If those levels stay high over a prolonged period of time, it can impact your metabolism, heart and weaken your immune system. Increasing illness, infection and inflammation, among other things.
Please don't forget the waiting lists for children who are experiencing anxiety and depression, that is not counting teenagers and adults.
There are such a broad range of disabled people and many do not realise how ill some people are. Why should the majority of deserving people suffer because of the minority. Some young people are dangerously depressed and have severe anxiety which cannot be ignored - it should be case by case. The therapists do not work for many. Just talking to someone wouldn't fix a broken arm and doesn't fix a mental disease.
This wilfrid man hasn't a clue about Depression, stereotyping people, that all people with Depression are just fed up. I have diagnosed depression, mine is a chemical inbalance and need to be on antidepressants. I have been on antidepressants since i was a teenager, never missed a dose. I also have physical health problems and other ailments.
If there are any mistakes on assessment on mental health.. then it lays with the assessors abilities to understand GP/psychology expert reports.. 🙄🙄🤔😎
It's the real disabled that we have to suffer we are genuine and under consultants. Im disabled and im a pensioner and payed into the system for 50yrs.
I have MRI results, diagnosis, of all my health problems.
me too .
Anyone who has applied for PIP knows just how hard it is to fill in the form. You don't just 'get' PIP.
How much do mps claim on expenses each year . Tax payers are paying for mps heated stables . What does heated stables have to do with mps working expenses .
That is absolutely ridiculous… I have a daughter that is only 29 and she tried to kill herself 3 times to date due to mental illness! What is wrong with you? Sometimes and most times people with mental health issues can’t even get a therapist because there aren’t enough that provide the service under NHS and not even private. The cost for a session is between £40 and £80 per hour and without PIP they will not be able to pay for these sessions. She is not on benefits at the present because she has some savings that has been using it to pay for her rent and all the usual bills and soon enough she will have to look for help from the government for certain and this news is making me worry so much and scared of what she may do to herself.
I personally have been confined at home because most days I can’t walk, cook or even dress myself. I can’t get a job in this circumstances and I used to work 10 to 12h per day and I don’t feel any pride to be at home and on benefits; I feel less of a person to be honest as I can’t be productive. It makes me feel less and embarrassed and if I could work I would but I can’t.
I've had a stroke. 4 years and I recently applied for PIP. I got the standard payment for daily living but get nothing for mobility even though only half mydody works. Figure that out.
I am already working for looking after my son for his schizophrenia 24/7 and yet I don't get paid not even carer allowance for my support to my son and Pip helps me out with daily living and costs of living yet I don't even know how long I have to live with medical complex and hepatitis I got infected at Bupa by a patient I cared for and only informed me that they had hepatitis after being infected. Bupa never ever paid me any penny for this hazardous event simply because I was a carer and not a nurse yet. Today I suffer a lot of pain and suffering from being injured by aggressive violent patients still never ever compensated from the NHS trust I worked for. It's unfair to treat people with disabilities in such manner. You are just adding up to problems.
I receive pip and work full time. The comment " go talk to a therapist ". I have been on a waiting list for years , but there was a comment there about it being attacked because you can't see it is 100% spot on
Its frighting how misinformed and lack of empathy the government have and some of the people on panel are about mental illness there's different levels of depression and anxiety theres mild up to very severe. If your in the severe bracket you don't get signed off by a GP so that's a misinformed you get signed off bye a psychiatrist with severe mental illness .people need help some have had very abusive childhoods in everyway for most of there childhood this damages you for the rest of your life speaking from experience. And know one ever mentions about people out there on benefits who can't read and wright they don't get offered any help and its nearly impossible to get pip. Its very dangerous the way the government are putting all mental illness under the same bracket with severe depression you can hear voices and see things what are not there. I've taken massive overdoses and been in a coma.
Traumatic brain injury stroke broken back and they still harass me
It's disgraceful how the Government have gone for the most vulnerable in Society!
All them Veterans with PTSD! This Country has been through a lot and is still going through it. The amount of Mental Health issues this Government has caused to the People!
Unbelievable!
Well said Shani! PIP form is so long & comprehensive, it requires medical evidence! It's terrifying when you've worked 30yrs NHS & paid NI! Then become disabled due to the heavy work! Little S&H 40yrs ago! We just had to do it! To care for patients!
My son has a terminal cardiac condition! Yet every 3yrs I have to fill in his DLA form for my son! Long, comprehensive form & needing explicit medical evidence! It's impossible to fake! Took 3yrs to get a wheelchair accessible vehicle for my son & had to apply for a £11k grant to even get the van and his mobility DLA taken away! DLA only covers cars, NOT wheelchair accessible vehicles - Vans (WAV) Just to be able to get my son out of the house! No education from the state! I've had to homeschool for 11yrs! And pay for his educational resources! Zero help from the LEA! They said if I take them to the High Court I'd win, but, how can I afford barristers? Exhausting!
And we're just gonna sit and take it.... hmmm
I think this is my first time seeing Shani, but I love her already. 🙏
replacing PIP income by vouchers wouldn't work and would cause outrage , PIP is for various ways of support and many disabilities are not visible hence easily revoked by DWP. We need to support disabled otherwise we are doomed
you bet the money going into the vouchers to be processed and spent will all be for tory proffits .another scam cooked up by and unelected criminal.
So when somebody ends their life through depression up or down
It is obvious Jeremy that people struggle with different levels/intensities of anxiety and depression. Detail please! Nuance????? Also - I don't know his name - but the black guy waffling on seems to think ppl get PIP as a result of their GP giving them a sick note. He doesn't even know how the system works!
Not every case of anxiety and depression is the same. Whenever I received praise for the standard and quality of my work I would often feel undeserving of the praise and attempt to unalive myself, an average 3 times a year. After an unfortunate no blame incident as part of a major surgery has left me with minimal use of my left arm I am hoping to get back to my voluntary work. Mental health is rarely as straightforward as some make out. It eventually led to an autism diagnosis at age 50!
I have aspergers which makes me too terrified to even apply for PIP. They talk as though mental health problems are just anxiety and depression which is a totally ridiculous assumption. All mental health services supplied by NHS or social services have either been stopped or drastically cut.
People like vine has never done a days work in his life and that wilfred no support in uk funding cuts etc and now this govt is letting someone not qualified to access this torys just waste money
The government needs to put money into the health service for mental health. I am old enough to remember mental health hospitals. My childhood memories were living with someone with this condition. Unless you have this condition or relate to it, you are unable to understand. It needs a doctor to confirm the condition and not someone who hasn’t a clue and untrained. Every person is unique, therefore you can’t just judge them.
Assessments are degrading I an an amputee and row DWP do nor snd never have under any government consider a prosthetic leg a walking aid. I cannot walk without mine. The DWP needs reorganising. ITS NOT GROWING BACK!!
sunacker needs to jog on along with tories,
Well said my dear i know how you feel. U won't find a employer to take on disability people any way in case something happens they are not covered on the employers insurance
My son was in an SEN school since aged 6. He was excluded each year due to his meltdowns and blowouts. It took a lot of anger management and therapies to get the anger under control. I’m desperately trying to get him help now to enable him to become a working member of society. We have to work around his social anxiety/autism/medical issues, since very very young. He attends disabled places like mencap once a week and this is exhausting as he has to mask all day long even though it’s run by people who understand mental health and autism. As a parent, the years of having to FIGHT for help when it’s obviously so desperately needed has taken its toll on me not only as a person but as a parent. It’s blooming exhausting let alone having to battle with the agencies that are put in place to supposedly help! If the help that is on the government website, ie EHCP, training, support etc, was actually put in place for youngsters like my son then we may not be in the situation we are now. I’m unwell myself, with multiple health needs and it’s got to the point where I’ve even considered supported housing for my son as I’m struggling to hold everything together throughout the battles I’ve had on top.
People conflating the issue…it’s specifically about anxiety and depression in YOUNG folk. Why are they going on about strokes, schizophrenia, physical disabilities, veterans and so forth? Bottom line is that you can’t trust the state to take care of you.
So kind of you
No it's not. It's about persecuting people on council estates, so their neighbours feel better about paying their landlord.
Anxiety and depression can be debilitating, I know I have both along with ADHD, IBS, OCD and trichotillomania. I’m now being assessed for fibromyalgia after being in pain for 8 months, I went absolutely numb down my whole left side and assumed I was having a stroke. Fibromyalgia is another condition like anxiety and depression that isn’t visible to the eye. So people don’t actually believe you are seriously suffering
I've just had to leave my job due to mental health, it's not because I'm having a bad day I've had to fight for my kids in court and failed I've been working in job that treats their staff like crap and I've been fighting working work due to Constructive Dismissal and the work place was trying to get rid of me. Mental health is no joke, yes I don't agree that people should play the mental health card because it's now impacting those who do have mental health issues. Stop cutting our NHS and fund them to help up with mental health so we can return to work and be happy doing so. I never took time off work due to the issues at court regarding my children and its got worse over the years which was only 1 year ago, I take this time off to heal and get my mental health dealt with. I think the government needs to live in our shoes, our life style we live in day in day out and let's see how many choose to end their life because nobody gives a crap out us.
Wilfred is giving me big time anxiety,.
I have a tumor in my brain and moving around and severe pains have been a problem apart from severe mental health issues I already have with heart issues already.
I'm diagnosed with complicated ptsd after 43 years as a coastguard. To many suicides to deal with.
I lost my sister in law few months later my sister then my brother. We then went into lock down and my wife had a major stroke. I am now just a full time carer.
I applied for pip was told I was not on medication (which is on the list of medication I take.) Was told I was laughing and joking during interview (which during which I was struggling to suppress a panic attack) I got zero points. Now I'm a scrounger with an mbe off the queen
I have tried to work and had about 20 different jobs part time and full time .I have two degrees and feel like there are no resonable accomodations to allow me to work .The fact that the government and society in general stigmatises us so severely impacts so much on my ability to just exist in this world. The attitude of people that we are all scamming the system makes me sick.Employers do not understand or care they won't take us on.I have PTSD autism fibromyalgia and probably arthritis I have never recieved the proper care to allow me to function in this world then the government wishes to give us vouchers and grants, cutting off our finances is not the answer.Personally I blame the systematic dismantling of workers rights employers are at fault just as much as this awful government its so short sighted .
The problem is with the "Reasonable adjustments/accommodations" that companies are supposed to make in order to hire someone with a disability. The companies class "Reasonable" as "To their advantage and profit". E.g. A disabled person who cannot stand or sit for long periods of time. They make a reasonable request to be able to stand or sit when they need to. However, the employer doesn't class it as reasonable because they expect all employees to stand because their counters are high. It needs to be clarified as to what is reasonable and what isn't. For someone who can't work morning shifts because their medications "Knock them out" so they can't get up in the mornings the employer could make arrangements for that person to start later. However, if the company needs someone full time from 9am promptly until 5pm then the company would not make the adjustment. Usually the clause of "According to business needs" outweighs "Reasonable adjustments" because the adjustments affect the business which takes priority over an "employees needs.". Employers have more rights than employees now which makes it much harder for those with disabilities to get and keep a job.
@@samanthahardy9903 Yes this sums it up completely .
Is hard to get pip in the first place
The only point I agreed with against was that there are people who could work in jobs but wint because they feel the job is below them...
However severe anxiety and depression is awful and these people against have no idea the hoops that have to be jumped through to even come close to qualifying... get medical trained assessors in would be a start to assess
the beneifit they'd be claimeing is JSA or ESA then, pip is not an out of work beneifit. you can work and claim pip legally.
@@blackbearish as a person claiming pip myself I understand that
Please replace sunak now, before the general election.
I got turned down for PIP a few weeks after being sectioned under the mental health act and hospitalised for 12 weeks and an official diagnosis . I was on anti psychotics, antidepressants and sedating medicine. I had crisis nurse coming to my home daily to medicate me and still couldn't get help from PIP... NO WAY IS IT AS SIMPLE AS GETTING A DRS NOTE! I'm also physically disabled and still can't claim PIP as i was turned down
BE CORRUPT ATOS CAPITA NEXT PAGES OF LIES
If only you could spend a day in someones life when they suffer with severe anxiety and depression too afraid to leave the house without someone you trust fighting with your mind everyday its mentally physically and mentally draining. Shame on anyone thats trying to make their life harder
Also the person In question on the panel with disabilities should be awarded pip indefinitely
That guy is talking out of his…. Because for people to be diagnosed an anxiety and/or depression mental health disorder, they must meet the DSM-5 criteria, so they must display specific symptoms and how much it interferes with a personal basic everyday life in a detrimental way. Having an anxiety disorder is not the same as feeling nervous and anxious in situations where it’s expected and to an expected level of emotion, like being anxious over a test or going on a first date. PTSD until very recently was considered to be an anxiety disorder. Now, would this guy say that is just normal everyday worries?
I had open heart surgery for a metal aortic heart valve ..it involves cutting open the stern bone [ribcage] ..when you come out ,you have to take painkillers constantly ..the bone takes time to grow back and heal ..the surgeon recommended be to take 3 months [12 weeks] off work ..i was in agony ....12 weeks later on my first day back at work i was summoned into the managers office and given a written warning ...i told this to the head doctor in my surgery and he went ballistic ..saying if you get any problems ,come and see me .......................that would not apply now ..
I hate the fact i am made to feel like a criminal by getting pip - but without it i would end up not working as i would not have the funds to cover my extra costs
The system of Personal Independence Payment is in a mess. I was notified by government when this payment was supposed to come in changing from Disabled Living Allowance -I'm Still waiting - i qualify under the Getting about / Personal Care Rules. Someone in an office will spot their blunder eventually, but by then Mr Stride will have brought in his new set of payments - all so he can aid his party's rich pals.
Well said to the two women
How about the benefits not being claimed ,
Nice to see what I said yesterday being addressed. Finally somebody who knows what they are speaking on when it comes to the disability payments.
Don't like the chap much, he has not experience and it shows in his opinion straight out of the government handbook.
when i went for my pip assesment, they told me there not interested in my general health issues that i have going on, and did not give me any phyical exham at all. they were only interested in my mental health issues that i'm suffering. and i was awarded full pip for three years. seems crazy to me, when i'm still waiting for opperations. and this was only three months ago.
There are people who are genuine and have uncontrollable anxiety attacks related to why a person is depressed there are hundreds of reasons wether its socially or psycally they don't understand mental health and just another attack on poor people for there failed attempts to run the country
How about people who were made long term ill by Covid? Long covid is not a "I decided I dont want to work anymore" condition, it has affected a lot of people differently, either neurologically, physically or mentally, or all.
I have just had yet another crash, this is after 4 years of long covid, it renders me useless and bedbound due to the fatigue for days at a time. That can be after as little as fifteen minutes of exerction. Ive now got heart issues, which i never had pre covid; when i worked 40 plus hours over four days in a busy hospital unit (where we were denied PPE , and ran out of sanitiser in Feb/MARCH 2020!)
Ive finally got a long covid clinic appointment, which is disgraceful having to wait four years for. Covid has changed my life. I feel ill most of the time, I hardly go out now and struggle to be in social situations. We need help, not be disbeleived and certainly not sanctioned!
The 18 to 30 needs to be looked into we have people who has serious issues with mental health but having said that a lot of youngsters are having meltdowns over the thought of going to work these people are giving the rest a bad name.
Severe position vertigo (with no cure) for 16 years (worked all through it), eventually body gave in, and have agoraphobia, severe anxiety and depression, if there's anyone out there who can cure me, then make me an example please!