Dodge Challenger R/T Scat Pack 1320 Vs. Ford Mustang GT: Drag-Strip Tested - Cars.com
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- We brought a Dodge Challenger R/T Scat Pack 1320 and Ford Mustang GT to the drag strip to see which sports car does the quarter-mile best.
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My 1320 has a best time of 11.5 @ 118 with all seats and Arizona heat. Not a one trick pony. I had it on a road course as well and was very impressed with the handling.
11.5 stock is great. Where is your track? I'm also in Arizona and my closed track is in Las Vegas. Last time I raced there the DA was so high the best run I got was 12.3.
AZ bois. I hate AZ but I'm in the Phoenix area for now.
1320 are excellent performers, on and off the Dragstrip. My Chally Scat runs high 11s on the street, I may try a Dragpak at some point here in Vermont. Depends on the DA, tires, and skills, as always...
I like how they use the excuse for the mustang losing due to temp and humidity and pretend the challenger wasn’t racing in the exact same condition. Than they talk about how the Mustang says it would do an 11...but you know, it was only effected by the weather...the Challenger must have used magic for the weather to change only for its race. Than when they run out of excuses they attack the challenger and say “but it’s just a one trick pony”.
They didn't cite the temperature and humidity as reasons for why the Mustang lost to the Challenger, but as an explanation for why it ran slower than it did when they ran 11.98 with the exact same Mustang on the exact same track. Obviously, if they had been able to run a 1320 on the same day under the same conditions (but the 1320 wasn't out yet), the 1320 would have run better than 11.8 and would have still beaten the Mustang.
And the 1320 is a one-trick pony. It's literally designed specifically for drag racing (which it's absolutely brilliant at).
I mean its challengers fastest 1/4 variant which is the rarest and most costly vs ford bare bones gt
@@gagehandy9005 only difference between this and a scatpack is the suspension and tires. It’s not rare at all and not that expensive
@@mason8557 not true though. Suspension and tires, sure. But also get the trans brake, a proper customizable drag mode, and some comforts like an alcantera steering wheel.
Its neither the rarest or the most expensive. That belongs to the R/T Scat Wide Bodies with the Shaker or T/A package.
I own a SRT 392 and have driven the Stang 5.0 as well as the Camaro SS.
All are great cars in unique ways.
The Challenger is my personal fav, however.
Which one puts you in the seat the hardest?
Niagarafalls 392 with its torque and gear ratios. 5.0 pulls but higher in the rev range. Gives a totally different feeling.
R2BA 100% the challenger bc it has more torque
Why is that?
The design is beautiful
Great video guys, gave all the strengths and weaknesses of both cars without bias👍
I mean the price difference though, also the mustang had a higher trap speed haha. Like both cars
Who cares about trap speed over et?
@@jeepjoseph9036 street racers
What price difference? A 1320 was $39k-$43k depending on when you purchased it. How much does a GT cost. I’ll bet it’s around the same
The Challenger can come with front passenger and rear seat for $1.00 each. It is not a one trick pony.
There have been 1320's that do the 11 second runs with full seats in the car.
Mopar or no car baby!!!
@@alfredoserralles5396 grandnational or no car
Definitely a one trick pony in performance. That is going straight. It's only faster out of the hole because thats what it was built for. Mustang wins in the Trap speed.
Absolutely and are not one trick ponies. All that you need to do is change out the drag radials for all season tires, and can even take a demon cross country. That's the beauty of these cars, and are a lot more practical than most people think. Challengers are super comfortable, and especially with SRT seats in them
@@lovethesmellofracefuelinth7374 it all new technology most muscle cars are comfortable now the Camaro mustang charger and challenger Chevy SS compared to cars back in the day like irocs and mustangs of the 80s lol
If that exact GT hit 11.9 under good conditions and 12.2 under not so great conditions. That 1320 dodge has a solid 11.5 pass under great DA.
One has run 11.7 in 2000+ DA with a full interior. I can give the link. Also a 1 seater has gone 11.4 with skinnies and a light battery no other mods.
@@thetruthaboutfacts224
Yes, I saw that video. I think there will be more records broken as well with the 1320.
My 1320 arrives today. I am looking forward to it.
@@Spunky-iq8jm That's great. I should be getting a T/A 392 sometime soon as well. I thought about the 1320, but I want a manual and the retro package on the ta looks so good.
@@thetruthaboutfacts224
Yes, the T/A has a very nice exterior and the manual transmission as well. Very retro.
The Truth About Facts that’s easily believable. A regular scat pack on stock tires has gone 11.9 before. You know that 1320 with the demon suspension and trans brake will do much better. Sure the 1320 is a tad be down on mph compared to the GT but GT isn’t capable of the 60fts the 1320 is without major mods.
So the trap speed is higher in the mustang, which means in a roll race the mustang should win
Everyone
Challenger has more torque. Depends on what speed you are going when racing from a roll. Roll racing at a drag strip is for wimps who can't do a good launch from 0 miles per hour.
Do you know how that would even work? Gearing...
@@stevesmith6236 facts
Wrong. Spinning typically leads to higher trap speed vs dead hooking.
The 392 has power everywhere. It pulls like a freight train from 2k to 6400
Mopar or no car baby!
@Catholic Firefighter F-O-R-D Fear of racing Dodge.
@Catholic Firefighter WOW so lame.
@Catholic Firefighter mopar and not farts lol
Great review on 2 very cool cars! I own the 2021 Challenger Scat narrow body, and I can get high 11 seconds on street radials, with good DA, with the drag pack, low to mid 11s, but I love it as my every day.
Own a 2020 ScatPack love it not the fastest fast car but its a modern day muscle car and full size
@@everydaysurvival157 Every car isn't the fastest car, there's always one faster. Scat Packs are viscous on the street and the track.
Something i just noticed. They also had the larger man driving the challenger. Imagine if they had the 110 lb man driving it might go high ten sec lol
you think 50lbs makes a difference in a 500hp car? Go back to Physics class.
@@NebuChadNezzarKBDN for ever 100 pounds you take off the car, 0.1 seconds is shaved of the quarter mile time
@@oliviadalmasso843 I'm talking about seat of the pants. Not time☺️
@@NebuChadNezzarKBDN ok
I don’t understand why so many people talk shit on the Challenger for being a one trick pony when that’s what it was designed to do.. It’s a muscle car, Dodge never intended for it to compete with European sports cars around circuits. That’s where the Viper comes in to play.
And boy does the acr come to play haha
You compared a mustang to a track focus challenger it would be a more equal match up if they would have got a standard 392 than a 1320
I'm guessing when you said track you meant dragstrip, but yeah these 2 cars are kind of meant for different things. A road course would be all Mustang..
Nobody uses the trans brake anyway. I got a widebody and even that fat tunaboat will still spank a 5.0
@@Sky1 ...
@@Sky1 man hate to say it I owned.a 392, with a drag pack and Jay Greene tune it went 11.86. At Atco raceway in New Jersey a bone stock mustang GT PP2 with a dragpack went 11.67. He even beat green machine's 1320. That was a stock mustang with just drag radials. This challenger has a special converter, drag suspension, and comes with dragradials.
@@Sky1 your widebody will not out perform ANY modern mustang on a track. I’ve owned both.
Your Mustang was .3 slower, so what would that make the Challenger in more ideal conditions?????? Hello. 117 mph is strong for a stock car, the Mustang would pull away up top as usual.
But the Challenger would already have the win light!
GM's new C8 is only 4 tenths quicker than the 1320, and is actually shocking when you consider the weight difference. It's definitely not a one-trick pony and all that you need to do, is change out the drag radials for all season tires
I agree it's not a one trick pony, it moves well in the water too. 🤣
Those 3 dislikes are mustang guys
@Catholic Firefighter Um a full interior 1320 went 11.7 in +DA.
@Catholic Firefighter No the 1320 beating mustang stock in the 1/4 mile is $74,000.
@Catholic Firefighter nah the Challenger 1320 have more power
@Catholic Firefighter yeah that what I mean lmao
Lol no those dislikes are the guys that realize you're pitting an almost 50k car vs a 30k and wondering why anyone would waste their money on the 50k one.
These guys are just mustang fan bois who are upset about the Challenger being faster.
Nice video!! More like this please!
Dont forget your comparing a light weight pony car to an honest to god muscle car. Look at the weight difference versus hp.
Yet barely anyone goes to the track unlike the drag strip shit gets packed
Nice video! My bone stock '22 1320 ran an 11.8 in Las Vegas with a DA of just over 5,000 in the summer heat. At a sea level track with good cool air it can easily do much better than the advertised 11.7
The two cars I can’t decide between
The 1320 will do 11.4’s stock, 11.3’s with a swap to skinnies on the front
Is that with a tailwind :p
Do you have any vid of the stock 1320 running that fast because if it's correct that's amazing
big rocc couple videos on my channel along with multiple stories from written publications. Here’s one from AllPar www.allpar.com/news/2019/12/challenger-1320-quarter-mile-reset-for-a-good-cause-46713
@@tommy_Marauder 1320 is amazing!
In the 2020's we are living
with a world where most people don't know what the real definition of hooking up really means.
My RT weights exactly the same 4120 lbs with full tank full interior
Don’t forget 1320 is a track focused car just like the demon ford don’t make any cars to compete with it it shout of been a regular scat pack or srt vs the 5.0 not a 1320
Same results
The 1320 has more from the demon than the red eye.
Dodge hands down makes the best drag strip cars you can buy, with that being said the Ford Mustang is a do it all drag strip, roll race and track car. Honestly you can't go wrong with either brand because they both make fantastic cars.
I wish people would stop comparing the Dodge to Mustangs and Camaros Dodge is the only true muscle car left
So, 117mph is slower than 115mph?
No comparison in the two really. The Dodge challenger Scat Pack 1320, 485 HP to Ford Mustang 5.0 460 hp. The challenger has 25 more hp.
And the dodge weighs 600-700 more pounds. Give the mustang 25 more HP, and remove 600 pounds from the dodge. That would give the Dodge an additional .4 second advantage over the Mustang in a 1/4 mile.
Obsessed with 1/4 mile times? Best to beef up that differential
Is this Great Lakes Dragaway in WI?
Why use transbrake of leaving at idle?
Just buy an intake and tune for the Mustang, run 11.3's and save yourself $9k.
Nick Giotta
Then listen to the engine sound like a typewriter after a few thousand miles
@@robbiefrentz9427 Exactly, then find out Ford won't warranty the car because it's been altered.
Robbie Frentz intake and a tune wouldn’t do that to a car.. clown 🤡
@@MonsterMeatMarcus it actually makes a big difference. Obviously drag radials are needed.
People and their stupid "tunes" Ford knows what they're doing.
With weight reduction in only the scat?
A standard 5.0 is lighter than the PP...
"Dodge, the brotherhood of muscle"
11.9 from a stock mustang GT? God damn
This might be the worst car review/comparisons ever. How do you talk about how great the car drives, and tracks, that you had several, and so on. Hardly talk about the other car and still pick the other car, someones pocket was lined.
I'd rather have the one that knows what a corner is
Mustang is faster on the top end AND can go around corners. I'd take the mustang.
I have a 2020. Love it
1320 Salute !
The 1320 IS NOT LIMITED EDITION...dodge will make as many as people order, Its just that not many people want one, but I do.
1320 with spray is a 10 sec car.....
Wish the scat pack offered a srt package.
They did from 2015-2018.
They had a 2018 Challenger SRT Scat Pack widebody at O'Connor Chrysler in Chilliwack in B5 Blue.
For 2019*
The Truth About Facts no it was a trim level now for 2019 they canceled it so for 2019 you can only get a flat bottom steering wheel on a hellcat /:
No such thing as a SRT scatpack.
Challenger weights more then 400 lbs more then the mustang and still beats it
Is the trans brake being used...? Yep.
How about a scat pack vs pp1?
They aren't built to compete
Is that the Great Lakes dragaway
Sure is!
@@Carscom
I heard that they only produced about 1,500 Challenger R/T Scat Pack 1320's? A future collector car.
How is that Mustang so heavy?!
It ate a civic
So it’s only good in a drag race
No performance pack 2?
PP2 is manual only. It would look slow compared to the 1320.
@@thetruthaboutfacts224 id have have to agree. Performance pack 1 or 2 is a waste for drag racing . More weight with no benefit in ET.
They should have ran a base model GT with the 301A package. That's the fastest Mustang gt
Drag tires and suspension was the only reason that challenger won. Mustang has a higher trap speed and this is coming from a guy who has owned 5 SRT models.
I'll take the car with the higher trap speed, thank you very much . . .
Higher trap speeds isn't important in winning official drag strip passess , quick reaction time and low ETs wins races. It's not how "fast" you go (trap speed), it's how "quick" you go.
Why?
@@stevesmith6236 I'm well aware of what's required to win drag races. But since I'm not a drag racer, 60-ft times and such don't come into play when I'm doing my "spirited" driving around town. Trap speed comparisons tell me which car has the advantage once they're already rolling . . .
@@jeepjoseph9036 See my response to Steve Smith's post . . .
@@bman99ss but trap speed is for the track, same with 60'. And how fast do you drive?
I love Great Lakes Dragway in Union Grove
The 1320 is a “1 trick pony”, as in its name 1/4 mile. Also with a drag pack mounted on that beast it’s a Low 11 car. Those things are insane at the strip
i thought the mustang was 3700 lbs wtf
Mustang fanboys.
Just get a wide body scat pack.
Widebody 1320. I wish.
Take the seats out of the mustang and add drag radials and see what happens lol.
clarks2001 who cares. It wouldn’t be stock for stock.
clarks2001 for real😂
They Literally said the Mustang had zero traction issues as it was lol
Jon K Heslekrants right
@@TheBb6prelude well by that logic why are we wasting our time with any of these? A demon is faster than both of them stock for stock.
Dam boi yeeeeeeeet
Best I've seen a stock 18 gt 10 speed was 11.83. Also let's not forget that this challenger was purpose built 1320 and it's 1.4 liters more engine. Just think if the Coyote was 392 inches instead of 307, there'd be no concern about the atmosphere.
Displacement is irrelevant. 32 Valve DOHC, vs. A pushrod.
Imagine a 32 Valve DOHC 6.4.
@@articfever3616 DOHC engines can’t handle big liters
6.4 DOHC would struggle a bit
But it isn’t, so let’s not forget that.
Just think if the 392 weighed as much as the GT ( 600 pounds less) 😊
Challengers will always have the best body shape. No one can deny that, however performance wise they are all good. Putting mods into a car aswell means it doesn’t matter which one you have, you can make any of them insanely fast
For sure they got everything beat on looks
LOL that is purely opinion! I can't stand the way they look!
Put DR’s on the mustang and see what happens.
Nothin would change
You can just get a widebody scatpack and go around a track and be as fast on the drag strip lol....
You can also get 305's on all four corners and some Eibach springs for the 1320 if you want to road course it.
@@johnnyz1781 You can but no point really. Its a focused built drag car, rather just buy the track option lol for the same price.
I saw a video on the Scat Pack widebody. The extra weight slowed it down on the drag strip.
@@DevPack but then you are slower on the strip...
Yea you will be half a second slower on the trip but you still get the best of both worlds compared to just one specific function.
Look in the dictionary under design flaw and poor quality and it'll say 6.4 Hemi -- designed to require major repair due to piss-poor lifters eating cams and resulting in thousands of dollars in repair, often with only moderate mileage and time. Challenger . . . no thanks.
Fixed after 2016
The dodge is great.. until you have to turn. That mustang is twice the sports car the dodge is and still close on the drag strip and that’s with the dodges drag radials and one seat
A 100% stock 1320 with full interior has gone 11.7 in +DA.
Richard Shelton That’s the point though. Dodge is the only true muscle car left. Mustang and Camaro have gone all in on making their cars Sport cars. Nothing wrong with that, but just have to keep in perspective what each car is trying to accomplish.
Richard Shelton.....more than close...see my comment in the main thread.
One seat is a gimmick, they give you a full interior for $1, and you can get the premium package with heated /cooled suede seats for $1,200. Challenger is a spacious, torque filled, boulevard bomber. The 1320 is as supple as a Town Car on the highway. MusMaro is a full on sports car more reminiscent of a MKIV Supra or 300ZX then their forebears.
Richard Shelton that is exactly true the mustang is A sports car now it gave up on being A pure muscle car....
Dodge doing what it do...Putting foot to Mustang Ass.
My supersnake wouldn't beat a DODGE IT WOULD DESTROY IT.PERIOD.
What's your fastest 1/4 mile.
@@thetruthaboutfacts224 My best time was a 9.77 at 145mph.Stupid power.
@@thetruthaboutfacts224 Honestly I am not a professional driver.I know the car has a lot more in it.I haven't raced a Demon but I am sure I can hang or beat one.
@@anthonylaudano9751 Nice, that would run with or beat a demon. I should point out however that your supersnake is not an oem production car.
@@thetruthaboutfacts224 No shit. I never said it wasn't.
Damn did u guys see those curves on that mustang? This is cool and all but yes i rather my cars be able to turn and brake so i would get the mustang
555th baby!!!!! WHOOOOOOOOOO NOT FIRST BUT WHO CARES?!?!?!!!!!!😀😀😀
What a waste of time
No comparison at all a stock gt 5.0 12.25 and a challenger set not a challenger 5.4 hemi a built up 6.2 scat pack no comparison this is not apples to apples. Its sad that a car with a bigger motor and a more built engine than the gt can barley beat the smaller motor sad and no comparison at all
Horsepower is Damn close , challenger also weighs a lot more so what’s ur point ? Both nice cars .
That is nothing but BS. Mustang with 10 speed auto will beat the 1320 all day long. Who do you think your kidding.
Wrong. Not in the 1/4 mile.
The Dodge is faster,get over it.All hail Dodge Demon
If it were any other scat, not the 1320 tho
richard tortorici Mopar or no Car buddy
Just keep repeating I THINK I CAN