Allen W You can tell it was impulse, his girlfriend was violated (just a note, I make so many puns that the main option for auto fill was VIOLAted. I’m so done with myself), but as soon as he shattered it, the satisfaction immediately turned to regret as he saw his face. He then tried to avoid the issue by immediately redirecting the city conversation and location. The acting in this show is amazing.
Destroying the pictures makes complete sense. Steeve is sending the message of “Hey pal don’t do this again”. But instead he went far and broke the camera and to me, that is breaking someone else's property without consent, which crosses the line over to bullying.
Steve was absolutely NOT justified AT ALL. You clearly forgot how fucked up Steve’s (and Nicole’s) handling of the photo incident is. Nicole sees that Jonathan has taken creepy photos of Nancy. A decent person would in this situation go and tell Nancy about it and let her handle the situation. What does Nicole do? Goes and tell Steve, Tommy and Carol instead, to get in favor with the popular kids. Now when Steve knows about the photos, what does he do? Again, a decent person would go and let Nancy know so she can handle it however she wants. But nope, Steve sees the opportunity to bully and look cool, tough and macho in front of his friends. He doesn’t break the camera out of care for Nancy, his whole reaction to the photo incident is seeing it as an excuse to bully Jonathan and look cool in front of his friends. Never does he ever talk about it with Nancy, asks how she feels about it or nothing.
I think what’s important is that he stumbled upon the party while searching for Will in the woods. Here he is, living out a nightmare, the worst days of his life, as his brother is missing... and here are these careless teenagers from school, having no concerns except their foolish party. It was a fascination with how they could be so carefree and stupid. Probably disgust at that, but also a little envy, wishing to be that oblivious and not carry the weight of the world. This ties into his artistic, photography side and he at first was taking pictures to capture the moment/feeling, then that progressed to the moment with Nancy. I don’t think he was doing it to be pervy; just caught up in the moment.
Franco Fitzharris I think what’s important is that he stumbled upon the party while searching for Will in the woods. Here he is, living out a nightmare, the worst days of his life, as his brother is missing... and here are these careless teenagers from school, having no concerns except their foolish party. It was a fascination with how they could be so carefree and stupid. Probably disgust at that, but also a little envy, wishing to be that oblivious and not carry the weight of the world. This ties into his artistic, photography side and he at first was taking pictures to capture the moment/feeling, then that progressed to the moment with Nancy. I don’t think he was doing it to be pervy; just caught up in the moment.
Ix skill 97 ix I think what’s important is that he stumbled upon the party while searching for Will in the woods. Here he is, living out a nightmare, the worst days of his life, as his brother is missing... and here are these careless teenagers from school, having no concerns except their foolish party. It was a fascination with how they could be so carefree and stupid. Probably disgust at that, but also a little envy, wishing to be that oblivious and not carry the weight of the world. This ties into his artistic, photography side and he at first was taking pictures to capture the moment/feeling, then that progressed to the moment with Nancy. I don’t think he was doing it to be pervy; just caught up in the moment.
I didn’t. He’s been my favorite character from season one onwards. From this scene I knew Steve was a jerk with a heart of gold. Notice how he found it completely unnecessary to beat up Jonathan. He was never malicious and had some decency
Eh I don't really hate him but I don't like him. He's a "cool dude" now but I think he needs to prove himself more in order to be a nice guy. People act like some of the things he did throughout the series he was being such a good person when really its just being a decent human being. Anyone who's not a dick would clean up the sign after he realized he was wrong. Anyone who's not a bitch would of went back into to help Jonathan and Nancy
Steve regrets the impulse of smashing the camera...you can tell after it happens he’s not even looking at Jonathan and decides to leave. But overall he had the right to be angry.
amanda kenya because the photos were legit CREEPY, you can’t deny that. NO ONE wants their pictures taken, let alone half NAKED and WITHOUT THEM KNOWING.
Okay, if a person takes a picture of my gf without permission also spying on her on window that is creepy. And i would say "don't ever do that again". But he does it again then camera goes goodbye. That's is the proper way to do it. You can smash the camera but warn him first if you don't want to smash it.
I can see how steve is trying to be protective of Nancy and doing this to show he’s going to make sure she is ok at all times. But after breaking the camera when he leaves you can kind of tell he felt bad for doing it almost immediately
@@Kenyagirly Jonathan stalked them though... your totally fine if someone stalks you and takes pictures of you in that manor and you wont confront them or get any revenge? And people who do are bad? got it
@@sophie-tz7jm Yeah sure take a couple of pictures. But he went further than that. He stayed there from when the pool party started. They went in to dry off. And longer than that still. After a certain threshold it becomes stalking.
I actually like this scene. Breaking the camera was completely warranted in my opinion. He basically trespassed onto his house (knowing who’s house it was and that he wasn’t supposed to be there), watched them all party, then took photos of his girlfriend while she was changing. You can’t excuse his actions with, “He was looking for Will” because that is definitely not looking for Will. Jonathan totally deserved it here.
For me it's not about whether he should or should not have broken the camera, it's his reasoning and attitude. Steve and his friends aren't doing this out of goodness of their heart for Nancy and trying tell Jonathan he is completely wrong in doing so, they are doing this to bully him and feel powerful way more. In their eyes, Jonathan was a weirdo and a creep even before these pictures surfaced. See how Steve or none of the friends ask Nancy how is she feeling or is she okay or what she would like to do. They are more focused in just dunking on Jonathan and act like they can do whatever they want. Jonathan was genuinely sorry about this and it's very very clear here. They didn't even ask him to apologise or anything. So to me, Steve was at wrong here. Not for breaking the camera but because he genuinely didn't give a shit about people here but used this as a means to bully and act all cool.
@@sony8591 Even if I don’t understand why, Steve immediately regretted breaking the camera. So if Jonathan is let off the hook for being a creep just because he was sorry, so should Steve. Steve was sorry too. Also Steve’s friends were the ones bullying Jonathan here (but they also did have a right to be upset too - he may of took photos of Nancy changing which is worse but he also stalked ALL of them), while Steve was genuinely upset that he had taken photos of his girlfriend. He did it for Nancy (even if that’s not necessarily what Nancy wanted to happen), his friends didn’t. Also Nancy WAS upset that Jonathan took those pictures, even if she didn’t want his camera to be broken. We never properly see her upset about it is because she forgot about how creepy it was easily because she more concerned about Barb.
@@stitchedmouthgirl Steve definitely didn't do it simply for Nancy. If he cared for her so much, he wouldn't go around writing Slut later. He just saw her sitting with Jonathan in her room, they were doing nothing, and he decided to not even ask her but just made assumptions and went around shaming her all over the town. He felt sorry but he choose to act cool in front of people at the expense of others. I'm so glad he realises his mistake and genuinely apologise and that's great. But he was a bully. A lot of us who have been bullied know he is bully
You know what: yes, Steve's friends were major a-holes, but Steve was acting having Nancy's best interests at heart. I mean: secretly taking pictures of someone (especially while they're half naked) is a pretty shitty thing to do. So, ok maybe Steve was a bit harsh and he needn't have destroyed Jonathan's camera, but Jonathan had it coming. I'm with Steve on this.
Exactly. I don't know how people even can hate on Steve for acting like an asshole toward Jonathan. First he finds out Jonathan secretly took pictures of his girlfriend half naked. No, destroying the camera wasn't overreacting. I wouldn't be surprised if Steve punched him in the scene. Speaking of which, I was siding with Steve even when Steve mocked Jonathan's family, simply because Steve really cares about Nancy, maybe even loves her, so when he saw them in their bedroom together of course he was emotional and wanted to hurt Jonathan. Yes, Steve is cocky, childish and dumb, but he's not the cliché asshole character we see in average teen shows and read about in novels. He's a complex character. All the characters in the show in general are so authentic. As if Stephen King wrote the script and sent it to J. K. Rowling for editing and that's how Stranger Things came to existence.
I don't think that he did this out of Nancy's best interest. I've only just finished the fourth episode, but from my perspective, he's doing this as a way of claiming Nancy and showing his superiority.
you were siding with Steve when he did that how disquieting what a lecherous thing to say of someone was like that to me i'd put them in the hospital . you also claim to like Jonathan too but, i really doubt that you slam on him like hes dirt and treat Steve as if hes almost perfect . IT IS NOT COOL HOW HE TRIED TO HARASS JONATHAN WHEN THEY FOUGHT EVEN IN HIS SITUATION JUST PURE IDIOTIC. STEVE IS JUST POSSESSIVE OF NANCY. YOUR COMMENT ABOUT SIDING G WITH STEVE ABOUT JONATHAN IS THE EQUIVALENT OF SAYING UOI SIDE WITH TRUMP AND SINCE IM A HUGE JANCY FAN THIS IS A HUGE INSULT. WE DON;T COME HERE TO BE UBER STANCY AND F SLAM JONATHAN
you don't understand: Jonathan did' take these pictures to stalk them. he loves photo, and you can see it by the beauty of these pictures. You have to get over that ''stalking'' thing. This is art. So sad some of you still don't understand this.
I'm sorry but Jonathan was a creep for taking those pictures though. I would have wanted the photos destroyed and probably would have stayed away from him.
Not only did he take the photos, but he then proceeded to develop them and carry them around. This may be an unpopular opinion, but I don’t think Steve was in the wrong here. The narrative tried to spin this as a case or bullying, but if some strange kid I barely spoke to took several photos of me without my knowledge, I would be quite upset. He never even sincerely apologized for this. The narrative even made it seem as though Jonathan was the wronged party by having Nancy give him a new camera. It was a strange choice to have Nancy end up with the guy who stalked her.
Are you fucking kidding me? This kid's brother is missing and most likely dead, his mother is on the verge of collapse, and you would publicly humiliate him and destroy his expensive camera and only hobby because of some slightly creepy, but totally harmless pictures he took while looking for his brother? Also, he did properly apologize. Steve was the one who never apologized.
@@numbo655 yh "harmless" pictures of taking people half naked while having sex is so not harmless. Yes Will lost his brother and his mother on verge of collapse but doesnt givr him right to start stalking people and take pictures of them
End of season one, the camera that Nancy gives Jonathan is actually from Steve. "Did you give it to him?" And he smiles after Nancy says yes. Super subtle and easy to miss. But great writing!
@@safcjoe7062 Well Steve was a fucking asswhe to Jonathan during the whole of season one for no reason. Or did you forget all the things he said in episode 6 about Jonathans family? Dont act like Steve was a saint he did way worse then Jonathan
Brandon Reed I actually do know what the word cliché is, I don't care about the dictionary reference. I read it, and it says what I know it means. And Steve is not a cliche character, nor do you know what the ending is like.
Christian 4_Realzz It's was a cliché ending for that season. Steve became the outcast that also became superpowered, able to take on the Demogorgon, and save the girl. Or you can point to him as the cliché of the jerk who changes for the love of some girl like in the breakfast club. He's still a cliché just take your pick.
I love everyone’s facial expressions when the camera breaks: Steve looks like he regrets what he did, Tommy is just having fun with the situation, Jonathan’s face as he stares at his broken camera truly makes me feel bad for him, and Nancy just doesn’t wholly approve of it. Amazing acting here
Are you fucking kidding me? This kid's brother is missing and most likely dead, his mother is on the verge of collapse, and you decide to publicly humiliate him and destroy his expensive camera and only hobby because of some slightly creepy, but totally harmless pictures? And he had "good intentions". You people are unbelievable.
@@numbo655 he was trying to be defensive of his girlfriend since jonathan literally took half naked photos of her and decided to process them anyway it was still a creepy thing to do and steve took it way too far and he was completely insensitive and could've handled the approach a lot better
@@numbo655 “slightly creepy and totally harmless” yea bro your just being extremely bias at this point lol. Those aren’t “slightly creepy” this are EXTREMELY CREEPY, and a half naked photo of Steve’s girlfriend isn’t harmless. We all know Jonathan is a good guy lol, but from Steve’s perspective Jonathan was full on being a creep. He didn’t know what happened in Jonathan’s inner life lol, he didn’t know about his mother, you stupid
@@rigobertogallardo9850 Jonathan said what he did was extremely weird himself and he shouldn’t have done it I never understood people that are on his side when he not even on it himself
100% on Steve's side here. Those pictures were creepy! Imagine discovering that someone was taking pictures of your house AND of your girl undressing. Jonathan was lucky it was just his camera that got busted, lol.
Completely deserved tbh. Dude was not only spying on Steve’s home, but took creepy pictures of his girlfriend, had them developed and didn’t immediately destroy them. For all he knows Jonathan could use them to blackmail her later, or worse.
@@Noba46688 He and his friend (the jerk kid that becomes friends with Billy in s2) grabs Jonathan’s backpack and checks it. In a previous scene that guy and his girlfriend (Steve’s other friend) get annoyed that Nancy keeps talking to Jonathan, bc they perceive it as her disrespecting Steve, but she and Steve know that she’s just trying to console him bc Will is missing. Steve only gets upset once he realizes Jonathan took pictures of Nancy at least half naked, from what we know.
@@alexjames4770 actually, it was the red head girl who was in the photo developing room at the same time with Johnathan. She saw the photos hung up and then snitched to Steve and the rest of the gang.
The people who defend Jonathan are nuts. The guy is a voyeur pervert, he spied on his classmates to take pictures of them and not only Nancy and then let's not forget that he took a picture of her while she was undressing. If a guy has to do this with my sister, it's not his camera that I break, but his teeth. You defend Jonathan because you like his character and he is one of the protagonists but imagine if in real life a guy did that to you? you will defend it with as much fervor? I hated the way they handled the situation by making Steve the bad guy and pretending it didn't matter what Jonathan did. I rewatched season 1 and Steve wasn't that bad and Nancy and Jonathan weren't respectful and innocent.
I don't think the show in season 1 exactly defends Jonathan. He doesn't even "get the girl" or anything by the end and it definitely reiterates how the pictures were screwed up. This scene is just a perspective shift to make the audience second-guess themselves on a situation which normally seems straightforward-people defend Jonathan only because before this point he's been shown in a sympathetic light, and people don't do so with Steve because he is depicted as the stereotypical "popular asshole."
@@Charnutboy What I regret is the way they treated it all with such levity as if it was not serious. While it is. Nancy's reaction was unrealistic to me, she didn't blame him and didn't even hold it against him and even befriended him. In the end Steve who apologizes when he did what he had to do. I don't even know if he really apologized to Nancy but also to Steve and the others he spied on and took pictures of. Honestly it was voyeurism and they just excused and justified his gesture saying it was because he likes to photograph people to capture their real emotions but at the time it was just voyeurism and violation of privacy people.
@@blackbird45 I mean, I think you have to consider that at this point in the show Nancy is preoccupied with worrying about what happened to Barb. While what Jonathan did is screwed up, she can't really primarily be concerned with it because her best friend's safety is priority to her. This is why she teams up with him; if circumstances were normal and the pictures didn't leave any hints as to what happened to Barb, she'd never have had any reason to do so. I also think the stalking incident does leave a bit of tension between them before Nancy's Demogorgon encounter-whenever she tries to get a reason out of Jonathan, he spouts out a feeble apology and that "it's hard to talk to people" excuse, which she promptly calls out as bullshit. Only after they experience the trauma of the Upside Down do they realize they actually have to set aside their grievances in order to find the people important to them. Also, Steve doesn't really apologize for this moment imo, only what it culminated into (the movie theater stuff). Sure, his initial reaction may have been warranted, but all the escalation that came afterwards was on his misunderstanding and misplaced trust in his "friends". Sorry if the replies are getting long, I'm not trying to make a character study 😂
jonathan really WAS looking for his brother. most of the photos were just of the area, then he made the stupid and slfish decision to take one of nancy. he probably wasn't thinking clearly from the stress of will being gone.
after seeing how protective Steve was of his friends in later seasons.. i can tell he wasn't just a typical highschool jock/bully in this scene. his old friends maybe were and that brought the worst in him, but he definitely wasn't a bad person
Yeah but there's a big mistake, tops of school buses weren't painted white to reflect heat from the sun until the late 1980s. I say this is 4-5 years too early. Not only that but one of the buses in the background had rectangle headlights and a black grill, Those model Blue Bird buses are from the 1990s!
I really emphathized with Jonathan a lot... Because I grew up really shy, it's easy to see myself in him. I wanted to hold him pretty much every scene like "I KNOW HOW YOU FEEL BRUHHH" why did netflix do this to me
strongly disagree. most people would have done the same thing. to be honest it breaks my heart seeing Jonathan and Nancy together. Steve is actually such a good cunt
Honestly Steve is in the right here. He showed some pretty strong restraint and I feel like not enough people give him credit for that. The stuff he does later on is bad but this is fine. He reacted normally and understandably. His girlfriend (who wanted to keep that night of passion they had a secret) had been violated. He was justified.
@@Kenyagirly like what? Sure he let his friend write those things. But he thought nancy was cheating on him. Then he made it up and helped get rid of the demogorgan. I think he was just with the wrong crowd
honestly i understand why Steve did what he did, it’s fucking creepy to take pictures like that without someone’s permission and I can see why Steve was so protective, maybe smashing his camera was a bit overboard but i don’t blame him
I'm with Steve here. While breaking the camera was too much he showed regret for it immediately. Remember Jonathan DELIBERATLY took pictures of a half naked Nancy. Steve was already creeped out by Jonathan before this. What the hell did you expect? That he would just sit down and talk it out? No. He already didn't like Jonathan and after this he probably hates him now.
Steve got some point in destroying the pictures but not the camera Imagine if you’re girlfriend has a stalker who keeps taking pictures of her. It is your duty to protect her.
She wasn't his girlfriend. They slept together once - probably mostly because of his pressuring. He doesn't own her. Jonathan made a tiny mistake. He likes taking pictures of people and came across them while looking for his missing brother. Give him a fucking break.
He should have done the same to his bully ass friends too then when they were being mean to Nancy and called her a slut. But yet he still stayed friends with them
@@numbo655 why all these assumptions. Their relationship was way longer btw than just sleeping together 1 time. They didn’t break up till season 2 so idk what you are talking about. And if you think this is tiny mistake you should check yourself.
Yeah the guy who publicly slutshamed a girl, showed no concern for Barb being missing and called the family of a kid whose brother was missing and most likely dead, and whose mother was on the verge of collapse, a "fucking disgrace"? Sure, great guy...
Steve was wrong, no doubt. And he could have handled the situation more better. But, I have to agree that it's really "creepy" to take pictures of your classmates, especially if you don't have their consent. And I know it wasn't Jonathan's intent to do so, and I know he really was "just trying to find his brother" but come on Jonathan! He should know better not to get himself involved with Steves gang. Especially when he knows that they're all jerks and "they wouldn't understand."
Was rewatching the show before starting season 4 and I just want to say that Steve was in the right here. Jonathan was being a total creep and deserved what he got. Not only did he take the photos, but he also developed them and was carrying them around! I think it’s disturbing how the show frames this scene as if Steve is being a bully, when in reality what he did was completely right.
First of all Jonathan didn't stalk anyone. He was just gathering proof and trying to find his brother. Of course, what he did was wrong. But it was never his intention to directly go taking pictures of others. He printed the pictures out and carried them around with him because he needed evidence not because of dirty reasons. It was definitely right to destroy the pictures but not the camera. That's already considered "Property damage" and he was clearly doing it because of bullying and not because of justice. I feel like most of you peole are too attracted to Steve that you're always trying to justify every single bad action of him. Steve had already bullied Jonathan before he even took the pictures, so what he did was totally wrong and there is no single excuse for this. If you support the season 1 Steve, you literally support a bully. And that's absolutely messed up, if you ask me...
I didn't like Steve in the beginning of the first season but upon seeing his true personality in season 2 and 3… How his stare seems blank and how he hurries to get away after dropping Jonathan's camera while the others laugh says a lot I believe
Takes photos of people, whilst hidden in trees. Johnathan good guy. Stops his friends from bullying him and is a victim of the stalking so he destroys the things he stalked with. Steve bad guy.
Having not watched season 1 since the first time and having forgotten the context of jonathan taking those pictures, i cant even be mad at steve for doing that.
He took some fucking pictures. He was interested in capturing real moments and it was his only hobby. It wasn't "twisted", he just crossed a boundary he shouldn't have and said sorry afterwards. It's not like he was going to do anything with the pictures anyways. Also keep in mind this kid has a missing brother most likely dead and a mother on the verge of collapse.
Are you fucking kidding me? This kid's brother is missing and most likely dead, his mother is on the verge of collapse, and you decide to publicly humiliate him and destroy his expensive camera and only hobby because of some slightly creepy, but totally harmless pictures? If you people condone this, I can only imagine what shit you're doing in real life...
@@numbo655 Totally harmless? If some guy had taken pictures of me through the window while I was undressing without my knowledge, I would be so upset. I'd feel violated, I'd feel ashamed and wonder if it was somehow my fault (even though it wasn't), I'd feel angry, I'd feel scared in case they decided to do it again...not exactly harmless. Imagine if it was your friend/partner who had pictures taken of them? Would you just brush it off and be fine with it?
This was deserved and I love Jonathan. Though I think the actual reason they had him at Steve's house from a story standpoint was so he could take the picture of the Demogorgon.
This was actually the best way to foreshadow Steve's character arc. He might have gone overboard by destroying the camera but ultimately he was being protective of Nancy from Jonathan (tbh, I don't know how anyone would want to be with someone who took photos of them like that without their consent), and this protectiveness would go on to be his defining trait throughout the show when he's with the kids. Also, did anyone else catch the look of brief regret on his face after he destroyed the camera? Hats off to Joe Keery and the Duffer Brothers (and the various writers/directors throughout the show) for making Steve's character development utterly believable and realistic.
I think Steve was justified here. Jonathan was literally stalking them. He took a pic of Nancy in her bra. I don't understand how she was ok with that.
In season 2, though, Steve is a much nicer guy. And why? Before he broke up with Nancy in season 2, he was very responsible. Example: she was drinking too much alcohol, and he was begging her to stop. He is much more helpful and social to people. Example: he saw toothless and they were hunting for the demogorgan monster dogs. On the trip, they talked a lot in nice ways to each other. Steve saved Lucas, Maxine, Mike, and Toothless, when Billy(Another very strong highschooler), almost beat the shit out of Lucas. He put up a pretty good fight. Steve was always treating Toothless as a brother. When they were going to the “Snow ball” in the last episode, Steve drove him, and gave him a lot of advice. Steve went into the upside down(with all the kids, of course)to destroy the monster to save Will, because he was the monster, and the monster was the spy to send the Demogorgan monster dogs to them. And that is why Steve is an awesome guy in Season 2. He was actually a main character in season 2
How is leaving her in a stranger’s house almost black out drunk and completely vulnerable responsible? Imagine what could have happened if Jonathan wasn’t there? Steve has done some unforgivable shit compared to Jonathan’s one mistake
Steve was a douche in Season 1 but this was totally justified. Taking those pictures was really creepy and I'm not sure I would have done anything different if I was Steve in this position. But anyhow I'm glad they both matured as the show progressed
DUDE!!! YOU ARE KIDDING ME?? While Jonathan, out of context, looked like a creep, there is a lot of douchey body language and mannerism used by Steve in this scene regardless. Dude lacked patience, didn't wait to let anyone explain it. Taking the camera, baiting Jonathan into taking it, and then dropping it like shit like a pathetic bully. If that would be your response, then that's VERY pathetic of you. You are either straight forward in your response or you ignore!! But you don't mess or play around like Steve did when he dropped the camera.
@@MiguelRodriguez-dk2ds AGAIN, Steve was a douche here. The way he handled things is how a purist form of bully would have done. Jonathan wasn't right (I NEVER said he was), but he wasn't mean spirited like Steve was in this season.
throughout season 1, whenever steve did something bad or rude, it almost looks like he regrets it a few seconds after, like when he dropped the camera in his face it honestly looked like immediate regret
At first when I saw this scene I didn’t even notice that Jonathan took a photo of Nancy undressing, mainly because it was very hard to see and I thought he was only being confronted by Steve for spying. Though I watched a video about Steve’s character development and read the comments of this video, and now my perception of this scene has been altered.
not justified. Two wrongs don't make a right. Steve even knew he was wrong and he was still like aight fuck you you're for sure gonna do this another 10 times.
What you need to remember is that camera was probably fairly expensive and Jonathan’s family isn’t the wealthiest people and I think Steve knew that so destroying the camera was most likely something that was very valuable and rare for him making it even worse to destroy
Im sorry but Steve was really justified here, Jonathan may have been looking for will but he literally not even creepily watched Nancy change but also took pictures of her, so Steve was being protective and didnt even do the wrong thing.
tbh this is justified jonathan was a total creep that night i honestly dont know how nancy dated him after that i personally would’ve felt so creeped out lmfao
Yes those pictures were creepy, although the minute he dropped his camera you started to feel so bad, that just added to what was going on at the time for Johnathan. And I gotta say, the fact that the Duffer Brothers made everyone hate Steve then all of a sudden in a season he’s everybody’s favourite character is insane. Props the the Duffer Brothers, very underrated.
Why are people trying to make Steve the villain in this scene. I have not watched the series and only have his perspective on what happened. Someone was stalking another student and he punished him for it. If someone was taking pictures of your sister naked without her knowledge would you just let him off?
I went from hate Steve to love him lol.
Solcher Derbeer same
Me too
Sameeee
Ikr
Steve is my favourite
Let's be real here, those pictures are creepy and even Jonathan himself knew that. Destroying the camera is a little overboard, but not unwarranted.
Allen W You can tell it was impulse, his girlfriend was violated (just a note, I make so many puns that the main option for auto fill was VIOLAted. I’m so done with myself), but as soon as he shattered it, the satisfaction immediately turned to regret as he saw his face. He then tried to avoid the issue by immediately redirecting the city conversation and location.
The acting in this show is amazing.
Destroying the pictures makes complete sense. Steeve is sending the message of “Hey pal don’t do this again”. But instead he went far and broke the camera and to me, that is breaking someone else's property without consent, which crosses the line over to bullying.
I would do that toi and am not a bully
OnThe Gang are you sure though?
Ik but dude he’s extremely poor dude and he can’t afford anything imagine how sad he must be
Steve was pretty justified here. He only seems like a jerk because we know that Jonathan really was looking for Will.
Steve was absolutely NOT justified AT ALL. You clearly forgot how fucked up Steve’s (and Nicole’s) handling of the photo incident is. Nicole sees that Jonathan has taken creepy photos of Nancy. A decent person would in this situation go and tell Nancy about it and let her handle the situation. What does Nicole do? Goes and tell Steve, Tommy and Carol instead, to get in favor with the popular kids. Now when Steve knows about the photos, what does he do? Again, a decent person would go and let Nancy know so she can handle it however she wants. But nope, Steve sees the opportunity to bully and look cool, tough and macho in front of his friends. He doesn’t break the camera out of care for Nancy, his whole reaction to the photo incident is seeing it as an excuse to bully Jonathan and look cool in front of his friends. Never does he ever talk about it with Nancy, asks how she feels about it or nothing.
Karen Page
That shit was justified
He’s her boyfriend
I think what’s important is that he stumbled upon the party while searching for Will in the woods. Here he is, living out a nightmare, the worst days of his life, as his brother is missing... and here are these careless teenagers from school, having no concerns except their foolish party. It was a fascination with how they could be so carefree and stupid. Probably disgust at that, but also a little envy, wishing to be that oblivious and not carry the weight of the world. This ties into his artistic, photography side and he at first was taking pictures to capture the moment/feeling, then that progressed to the moment with Nancy. I don’t think he was doing it to be pervy; just caught up in the moment.
Franco Fitzharris I think what’s important is that he stumbled upon the party while searching for Will in the woods. Here he is, living out a nightmare, the worst days of his life, as his brother is missing... and here are these careless teenagers from school, having no concerns except their foolish party. It was a fascination with how they could be so carefree and stupid. Probably disgust at that, but also a little envy, wishing to be that oblivious and not carry the weight of the world. This ties into his artistic, photography side and he at first was taking pictures to capture the moment/feeling, then that progressed to the moment with Nancy. I don’t think he was doing it to be pervy; just caught up in the moment.
Ix skill 97 ix I think what’s important is that he stumbled upon the party while searching for Will in the woods. Here he is, living out a nightmare, the worst days of his life, as his brother is missing... and here are these careless teenagers from school, having no concerns except their foolish party. It was a fascination with how they could be so carefree and stupid. Probably disgust at that, but also a little envy, wishing to be that oblivious and not carry the weight of the world. This ties into his artistic, photography side and he at first was taking pictures to capture the moment/feeling, then that progressed to the moment with Nancy. I don’t think he was doing it to be pervy; just caught up in the moment.
Everyone hates Steve here, but in season 2 everyone likes him. Character development at its finest
Lil Ounce All in favor of having Tommy and Carol killed off in season 3, say “Aye” or just thumbs up.
I didn’t. He’s been my favorite character from season one onwards. From this scene I knew Steve was a jerk with a heart of gold. Notice how he found it completely unnecessary to beat up Jonathan. He was never malicious and had some decency
And love him more in season 3
NazcarFanatic24 Exactly.
People only like him because he's attractive
Wow Steve went from douchbag high school student to badass babysitter to badass ice cream scooper
Scoops ahoy
Everybody likes him in season 3 e even more than alexei
Jack O'Connor and a mom
He's still a fucking douche bag
Hey hands of the ScoOPeR
Back when everyone hated steve
Eh I don't really hate him but I don't like him. He's a "cool dude" now but I think he needs to prove himself more in order to be a nice guy. People act like some of the things he did throughout the series he was being such a good person when really its just being a decent human being. Anyone who's not a dick would clean up the sign after he realized he was wrong. Anyone who's not a bitch would of went back into to help Jonathan and Nancy
watch season 2
The rational people didn't hate Steve. He broke the camera of a guy who took half-naked pictures of his girlfriend. That's not that unreasonable.
? ? i liked him here
+? ? - Feel old yet?
Steve season 1: most hated
Steve season 2 and 3: everyone’s favorite
Nope, hopper is
just a random person on the internet
Ngl I hated hopper in season 3 lol
Brendan ODonnell season 2: billy is the most hated
Season 3: people sad because he died
just a random person on the internet hopper was always a favorite
Just a Guy yep pretty much
Steve regrets the impulse of smashing the camera...you can tell after it happens he’s not even looking at Jonathan and decides to leave. But
overall he had the right to be angry.
He still mother fucking did it
amanda kenya because the photos were legit CREEPY, you can’t deny that. NO ONE wants their pictures taken, let alone half NAKED and WITHOUT THEM KNOWING.
Via_Arts • yeah...
Yes true
Okay, if a person takes a picture of my gf without permission also spying on her on window that is creepy. And i would say "don't ever do that again".
But he does it again then camera goes goodbye.
That's is the proper way to do it. You can smash the camera but warn him first if you don't want to smash it.
1:30 Steve doesn't even look happy that he did that :/ Guy truly was just with the wrong crowd at the time.
Clayborne s3 really brought out his true character
Yeah that's awesome
I never realized this. Really good touch of acting.
He did the right thing tho
@@Epsa_ nah season 2 did. Dustin and Steve bro was the funniest shit I've ever seen
At 0:09 when Jonathan says "What's going on?" you can hear Charlie Heaton's British accent leak through.
Lol
just slipped in there
*English accent. No such thing as a British accent. I should know I'm from the UK
@@aidanmccormack67 Isnt that the picture of the "Gingers have no soul" guy?
Aidan McCormack it’s British accent as said in America
I can see how steve is trying to be protective of Nancy and doing this to show he’s going to make sure she is ok at all times. But after breaking the camera when he leaves you can kind of tell he felt bad for doing it almost immediately
Nah he's still a fucking douche bag. And he got what he deserved. When Jonathan beated the crap out of him
@@Kenyagirly Jonathan stalked them though... your totally fine if someone stalks you and takes pictures of you in that manor and you wont confront them or get any revenge? And people who do are bad? got it
amanda kenya if this was real life, Jonathan would be the one beat up. But Stranger Things is fantasy.
@@Jack-nu3lp he never stalked anyone lmao. he was looking for will and stumbled upon the party. that's when he took pictures.
@@sophie-tz7jm Yeah sure take a couple of pictures. But he went further than that. He stayed there from when the pool party started. They went in to dry off. And longer than that still. After a certain threshold it becomes stalking.
I actually like this scene. Breaking the camera was completely warranted in my opinion. He basically trespassed onto his house (knowing who’s house it was and that he wasn’t supposed to be there), watched them all party, then took photos of his girlfriend while she was changing. You can’t excuse his actions with, “He was looking for Will” because that is definitely not looking for Will. Jonathan totally deserved it here.
@@astro.8888 bro just shutup leave the guy alonr
@Phobos ok now I am a little curious. What bad stuff did you go through?
For me it's not about whether he should or should not have broken the camera, it's his reasoning and attitude. Steve and his friends aren't doing this out of goodness of their heart for Nancy and trying tell Jonathan he is completely wrong in doing so, they are doing this to bully him and feel powerful way more.
In their eyes, Jonathan was a weirdo and a creep even before these pictures surfaced. See how Steve or none of the friends ask Nancy how is she feeling or is she okay or what she would like to do. They are more focused in just dunking on Jonathan and act like they can do whatever they want.
Jonathan was genuinely sorry about this and it's very very clear here. They didn't even ask him to apologise or anything.
So to me, Steve was at wrong here. Not for breaking the camera but because he genuinely didn't give a shit about people here but used this as a means to bully and act all cool.
@@sony8591 Even if I don’t understand why, Steve immediately regretted breaking the camera. So if Jonathan is let off the hook for being a creep just because he was sorry, so should Steve. Steve was sorry too. Also Steve’s friends were the ones bullying Jonathan here (but they also did have a right to be upset too - he may of took photos of Nancy changing which is worse but he also stalked ALL of them), while Steve was genuinely upset that he had taken photos of his girlfriend. He did it for Nancy (even if that’s not necessarily what Nancy wanted to happen), his friends didn’t. Also Nancy WAS upset that Jonathan took those pictures, even if she didn’t want his camera to be broken. We never properly see her upset about it is because she forgot about how creepy it was easily because she more concerned about Barb.
@@stitchedmouthgirl Steve definitely didn't do it simply for Nancy. If he cared for her so much, he wouldn't go around writing Slut later. He just saw her sitting with Jonathan in her room, they were doing nothing, and he decided to not even ask her but just made assumptions and went around shaming her all over the town. He felt sorry but he choose to act cool in front of people at the expense of others.
I'm so glad he realises his mistake and genuinely apologise and that's great. But he was a bully. A lot of us who have been bullied know he is bully
You know what: yes, Steve's friends were major a-holes, but Steve was acting having Nancy's best interests at heart. I mean: secretly taking pictures of someone (especially while they're half naked) is a pretty shitty thing to do. So, ok maybe Steve was a bit harsh and he needn't have destroyed Jonathan's camera, but Jonathan had it coming. I'm with Steve on this.
Exactly. I don't know how people even can hate on Steve for acting like an asshole toward Jonathan. First he finds out Jonathan secretly took pictures of his girlfriend half naked. No, destroying the camera wasn't overreacting. I wouldn't be surprised if Steve punched him in the scene. Speaking of which, I was siding with Steve even when Steve mocked Jonathan's family, simply because Steve really cares about Nancy, maybe even loves her, so when he saw them in their bedroom together of course he was emotional and wanted to hurt Jonathan. Yes, Steve is cocky, childish and dumb, but he's not the cliché asshole character we see in average teen shows and read about in novels. He's a complex character. All the characters in the show in general are so authentic. As if Stephen King wrote the script and sent it to J. K. Rowling for editing and that's how Stranger Things came to existence.
I don't think that he did this out of Nancy's best interest. I've only just finished the fourth episode, but from my perspective, he's doing this as a way of claiming Nancy and showing his superiority.
you were siding with Steve when he did that how disquieting what a lecherous thing to say of someone was like that to me i'd put them in the hospital . you also claim to like Jonathan too but, i really doubt that you slam on him like hes dirt and treat Steve as if hes almost perfect . IT IS NOT COOL HOW HE TRIED TO HARASS JONATHAN WHEN THEY FOUGHT EVEN IN HIS SITUATION JUST PURE IDIOTIC. STEVE IS JUST POSSESSIVE OF NANCY. YOUR COMMENT ABOUT SIDING G WITH STEVE ABOUT JONATHAN IS THE EQUIVALENT OF SAYING UOI SIDE WITH TRUMP AND SINCE IM A HUGE JANCY FAN THIS IS A HUGE INSULT. WE DON;T COME HERE TO BE UBER STANCY AND F SLAM JONATHAN
you don't understand: Jonathan did' take these pictures to stalk them. he loves photo, and you can see it by the beauty of these pictures. You have to get over that ''stalking'' thing. This is art. So sad some of you still don't understand this.
Rita ♡ whether its art or not its still peverted, creepy and an invasion of people's privacy to take pictures of them stripping inside their house 😂
I'm sorry but Jonathan was a creep for taking those pictures though. I would have wanted the photos destroyed and probably would have stayed away from him.
I agree about destroy the photos, but Steve should not destroy Jonathan's camera.
+Solcher Derbeer I would of beat Steve ass for stalking
+Dreyton Benson and i already knew that smartass
+Dreyton Benson sorry about that it's a really bad habit of mines
+Dreyton Benson sorry about that it's a really bad habit of mines
Not only did he take the photos, but he then proceeded to develop them and carry them around. This may be an unpopular opinion, but I don’t think Steve was in the wrong here. The narrative tried to spin this as a case or bullying, but if some strange kid I barely spoke to took several photos of me without my knowledge, I would be quite upset. He never even sincerely apologized for this. The narrative even made it seem as though Jonathan was the wronged party by having Nancy give him a new camera. It was a strange choice to have Nancy end up with the guy who stalked her.
Are you fucking kidding me? This kid's brother is missing and most likely dead, his mother is on the verge of collapse, and you would publicly humiliate him and destroy his expensive camera and only hobby because of some slightly creepy, but totally harmless pictures he took while looking for his brother? Also, he did properly apologize. Steve was the one who never apologized.
@@numbo655 your an idiot lmao jonathon was a creep taking those photos "looking for his brother"
@@numbo655 cry
@@Echo-vl9jc bet that up I'm a class world actor😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
@@numbo655 yh "harmless" pictures of taking people half naked while having sex is so not harmless. Yes Will lost his brother and his mother on verge of collapse but doesnt givr him right to start stalking people and take pictures of them
End of season one, the camera that Nancy gives Jonathan is actually from Steve. "Did you give it to him?" And he smiles after Nancy says yes. Super subtle and easy to miss. But great writing!
Tbh he didn't even have to replace it.
@@safcjoe7062 Well Steve was a fucking asswhe to Jonathan during the whole of season one for no reason. Or did you forget all the things he said in episode 6 about Jonathans family? Dont act like Steve was a saint he did way worse then Jonathan
Some people say that Steve was a bully for this, but over the 1st season, I have really liked redeemable qualities that don't make him cliche.
He becomes a cliché. He becomes the outcast who gets the pretty girl in the end
Brandon Reed That is not cliche. Plus you don't even know what will happen to him in the end.
Christian 4_Realzz Apparently you don't know what a Cliche is. Here's a link educate yourself: dictionary.com
Brandon Reed I actually do know what the word cliché is, I don't care about the dictionary reference. I read it, and it says what I know it means. And Steve is not a cliche character, nor do you know what the ending is like.
Christian 4_Realzz It's was a cliché ending for that season. Steve became the outcast that also became superpowered, able to take on the Demogorgon, and save the girl. Or you can point to him as the cliché of the jerk who changes for the love of some girl like in the breakfast club. He's still a cliché just take your pick.
I love everyone’s facial expressions when the camera breaks: Steve looks like he regrets what he did, Tommy is just having fun with the situation, Jonathan’s face as he stares at his broken camera truly makes me feel bad for him, and Nancy just doesn’t wholly approve of it. Amazing acting here
Steve had good intentions when confronting Johnathan, but executed it the wrong way
Are you fucking kidding me? This kid's brother is missing and most likely dead, his mother is on the verge of collapse, and you decide to publicly humiliate him and destroy his expensive camera and only hobby because of some slightly creepy, but totally harmless pictures? And he had "good intentions". You people are unbelievable.
@@numbo655 he was trying to be defensive of his girlfriend since jonathan literally took half naked photos of her and decided to process them anyway it was still a creepy thing to do and steve took it way too far and he was completely insensitive and could've handled the approach a lot better
@@numbo655 “slightly creepy and totally harmless” yea bro your just being extremely bias at this point lol. Those aren’t “slightly creepy” this are EXTREMELY CREEPY, and a half naked photo of Steve’s girlfriend isn’t harmless. We all know Jonathan is a good guy lol, but from Steve’s perspective Jonathan was full on being a creep. He didn’t know what happened in Jonathan’s inner life lol, he didn’t know about his mother, you stupid
I agree.
@@rigobertogallardo9850 Jonathan said what he did was extremely weird himself and he shouldn’t have done it I never understood people that are on his side when he not even on it himself
100% on Steve's side here. Those pictures were creepy! Imagine discovering that someone was taking pictures of your house AND of your girl undressing. Jonathan was lucky it was just his camera that got busted, lol.
imagine breaking an expensive camera and leaving him all alone:/
@@_comeplaywithme_1810 Imagine taking pictures of someone in underwear without them knowing of it. And even printing it and walking around with them.
@@JNB1191 In this case I would've reported Jonathan to the cops along with evidence.
tommy whispering “boo” to jonathan is so out of place it kills me
And funny enough Jonathan would literally wreck him if he wanted too
Completely deserved tbh. Dude was not only spying on Steve’s home, but took creepy pictures of his girlfriend, had them developed and didn’t immediately destroy them. For all he knows Jonathan could use them to blackmail her later, or worse.
How did he find out that John took the photos? Haven’t seen the show in ages, and it’s not covered by recaps; merely “he found out”
@@Noba46688 Bc it’s Jonathan’s camera, and he had the photos in his own backpack. Not to mention he didn’t even attempt to deny it.
@@alexjames4770 no, ik that, but how did Steve ig see the pics?
@@Noba46688 He and his friend (the jerk kid that becomes friends with Billy in s2) grabs Jonathan’s backpack and checks it. In a previous scene that guy and his girlfriend (Steve’s other friend) get annoyed that Nancy keeps talking to Jonathan, bc they perceive it as her disrespecting Steve, but she and Steve know that she’s just trying to console him bc Will is missing. Steve only gets upset once he realizes Jonathan took pictures of Nancy at least half naked, from what we know.
@@alexjames4770 actually, it was the red head girl who was in the photo developing room at the same time with Johnathan. She saw the photos hung up and then snitched to Steve and the rest of the gang.
The personality growth of Steve is the best thing ever. He went from a bully to a caring mom. Awww❤
Ur meant to say son xD
Aayushman Verma no mom, he is the mother of Dustin
@@RedDeadDepressionist and erica.
@@ayushman7428 nope hes a mom
@@pioyoyong Ice *Cream*-Scooper.
Whos here after Season 3? Steve even admits to being a jerk lol, like this scene
Steve looks like a watered down Andrew Garfield
yeah and you probably look like watered down cordial, looks like shit, takes like shit and nobody likes you lmao.
ecliptic. Was that necessary?
ecliptic. That’s fucked up
Kytheres37 Glad I m not the only one who noticed that
ecliptic. You were just projecting all the nasty things your parents (or lack thereof) have said about you.
The people who defend Jonathan are nuts. The guy is a voyeur pervert, he spied on his classmates to take pictures of them and not only Nancy and then let's not forget that he took a picture of her while she was undressing.
If a guy has to do this with my sister, it's not his camera that I break, but his teeth. You defend Jonathan because you like his character and he is one of the protagonists but imagine if in real life a guy did that to you? you will defend it with as much fervor?
I hated the way they handled the situation by making Steve the bad guy and pretending it didn't matter what Jonathan did.
I rewatched season 1 and Steve wasn't that bad and Nancy and Jonathan weren't respectful and innocent.
I don't think the show in season 1 exactly defends Jonathan. He doesn't even "get the girl" or anything by the end and it definitely reiterates how the pictures were screwed up. This scene is just a perspective shift to make the audience second-guess themselves on a situation which normally seems straightforward-people defend Jonathan only because before this point he's been shown in a sympathetic light, and people don't do so with Steve because he is depicted as the stereotypical "popular asshole."
@@Charnutboy What I regret is the way they treated it all with such levity as if it was not serious. While it is. Nancy's reaction was unrealistic to me, she didn't blame him and didn't even hold it against him and even befriended him. In the end Steve who apologizes when he did what he had to do. I don't even know if he really apologized to Nancy but also to Steve and the others he spied on and took pictures of. Honestly it was voyeurism and they just excused and justified his gesture saying it was because he likes to photograph people to capture their real emotions but at the time it was just voyeurism and violation of privacy people.
@@blackbird45 I mean, I think you have to consider that at this point in the show Nancy is preoccupied with worrying about what happened to Barb. While what Jonathan did is screwed up, she can't really primarily be concerned with it because her best friend's safety is priority to her. This is why she teams up with him; if circumstances were normal and the pictures didn't leave any hints as to what happened to Barb, she'd never have had any reason to do so. I also think the stalking incident does leave a bit of tension between them before Nancy's Demogorgon encounter-whenever she tries to get a reason out of Jonathan, he spouts out a feeble apology and that "it's hard to talk to people" excuse, which she promptly calls out as bullshit. Only after they experience the trauma of the Upside Down do they realize they actually have to set aside their grievances in order to find the people important to them.
Also, Steve doesn't really apologize for this moment imo, only what it culminated into (the movie theater stuff). Sure, his initial reaction may have been warranted, but all the escalation that came afterwards was on his misunderstanding and misplaced trust in his "friends".
Sorry if the replies are getting long, I'm not trying to make a character study 😂
@@Charnutboy no it's good because in the end I think you're right on some points.
jonathan really WAS looking for his brother. most of the photos were just of the area, then he made the stupid and slfish decision to take one of nancy. he probably wasn't thinking clearly from the stress of will being gone.
after seeing how protective Steve was of his friends in later seasons.. i can tell he wasn't just a typical highschool jock/bully in this scene. his old friends maybe were and that brought the worst in him, but he definitely wasn't a bad person
Steve did nothing wrong here tho
Thats the only time he didnt do something wrong
Nice "1980s" school bus
Yep lol
Yeah but there's a big mistake, tops of school buses weren't painted white to reflect heat from the sun until the late 1980s. I say this is 4-5 years too early. Not only that but one of the buses in the background had rectangle headlights and a black grill, Those model Blue Bird buses are from the 1990s!
Lol fail 😂😂😂
BagoPorkRinds an average person couldnt tell
I didn't even know school buses were different back then
I really emphathized with Jonathan a lot... Because I grew up really shy, it's easy to see myself in him. I wanted to hold him pretty much every scene like "I KNOW HOW YOU FEEL BRUHHH"
why did netflix do this to me
You took picture of girls having sex with out them knowing?
I am a girl, for one thing. But he didn't do that either. He only took a photograph of her back, he put the camera down afterwards.
Oh well, then it's totally fine to stalk other peoples.
Lol, u creeped around in someone's backyard taking pictures of them having sex?
She said she grew up shy like him. Stop asking if she takes pictures of other people.
I also empathize with him because I'm shy too btw. 😅
It’s hard to believe this show has been going on since 2016. It’s a miracle most of the cast still look youthful.
The fact that Joe Keery can play this version of Steve, and then do a total flip flop the next season is crazy.
Why do i love jonathan so much, seriously?
Melanie Hughes I KNOW RIGHT!?!?!?!!
strongly disagree. most people would have done the same thing. to be honest it breaks my heart seeing Jonathan and Nancy together. Steve is actually such a good cunt
Melanie Hughes thank you
Akira Green ANOTHER!
@@Titancxnt man, you repeat your comment in everybody's comment, you're a broken robot???
i cringe when he drops the camera,
Morrissey I cringe when they look at the pictures
Phsyconic its all bad
Hi, I'm Danny Elfman From The Band Oingo Boingo i cringe at the fact that you end ur sentence like this,
Why the fuck is everyone cringing?
Me too
Steve's character development is just amazing. It's so weird seeing one of my favourite characters being that bully he was before.
XenoTronus PrimeZilla#21068
I just finished season 3 and almost forgot how much I disliked him.
Mina Ginger - Yeah, same here.
Do u kn9w what this is from like season 2 what episode
@@davidlott8719 The video clip? It's from season 1.
XenoTronus PrimeZilla#21068 Bully? He’s protecting his girlfriend from this creep taking half naked pictures of her
Honestly
Steve is in the right here. He showed some pretty strong restraint and I feel like not enough people give him credit for that. The stuff he does later on is bad but this is fine. He reacted normally and understandably. His girlfriend (who wanted to keep that night of passion they had a secret) had been violated. He was justified.
Steve has done way worse and no one cares just cause you all like him
@@Kenyagirly like what? Sure he let his friend write those things. But he thought nancy was cheating on him. Then he made it up and helped get rid of the demogorgan. I think he was just with the wrong crowd
@@abbij2009 yeah I agree. If I saw a random dude in my girlfriend's bedroom I'd get suspicious too.
@@KenyagirlyLol we hope there are no weirdos being creepy around you, mmm, i guess u would date them, such dmb as
In Steve's defense who could blame him
A lot of people who aren't stupid.
@@Gervaj79 A lot of creeps like Jonathan
You just wanna defend his ass. Because he's your favorite character
You can't blame Jonathan either. Since he was searching for his brother!! I'm so fucking glad he beated the mother fucking shit out Steve
@@Commander_Shepard. you just hate him because Steve is your favorite so your nothing but a jealous bitch
honestly i understand why Steve did what he did, it’s fucking creepy to take pictures like that without someone’s permission and I can see why Steve was so protective, maybe smashing his camera was a bit overboard but i don’t blame him
Steve: *Exists*
Billy: *I am about to end this mans whole career*
It’s crazy how complex they make the “bullies” in this show and how they develop over time.
And if Jonathan went up to his bullies Steve, Tommy and Carol and gave a speech about how bullying hurts, how would they deal with it?
0:57 this is proof that THIS WAS IN FACT A SCENE AND NOT A MANDELA EFFECT!!!!
YES TY I KNEW IT EXISTED
I thought i was going crazy😭
i think ppl jus got confused abt the pictures of nancy undressed and supposedly pictures of nancy and steve doin yk what but idk
Season 3 Steve is so much different
Who's here after jumper podcast mandela effect thingy lol. This scene actually exist
Lmao
Me I’m watching that shit rn but the photo is thier
I'm with Steve here. While breaking the camera was too much he showed regret for it immediately.
Remember Jonathan DELIBERATLY took pictures of a half naked Nancy. Steve was already creeped out by Jonathan before this. What the hell did you expect? That he would just sit down and talk it out? No. He already didn't like Jonathan and after this he probably hates him now.
why was it too much tho lmao.
@@Babycake. Destruction of property. Jonathan was already dealing with a lot of shit.
@@rocketsniper8726 still had time to be a creep and take pictures of a girl undressing
@@daveagard1884 he still did not have to break his shit riping up the pics was enough
@@antondavis9386 the way y’all defend a perverted stalker is crazy
everyone hated steve in season 1, grew to love him in season 2, and absolutely loved him by season 3
Steve got some point in destroying the pictures but not the camera
Imagine if you’re girlfriend has a stalker who keeps taking pictures of her. It is your duty to protect her.
She wasn't his girlfriend. They slept together once - probably mostly because of his pressuring. He doesn't own her. Jonathan made a tiny mistake. He likes taking pictures of people and came across them while looking for his missing brother. Give him a fucking break.
He should have done the same to his bully ass friends too then when they were being mean to Nancy and called her a slut. But yet he still stayed friends with them
@@numbo655 why all these assumptions. Their relationship was way longer btw than just sleeping together 1 time. They didn’t break up till season 2 so idk what you are talking about. And if you think this is tiny mistake you should check yourself.
@@numbo655 A TINY mistake? He took pictures of two people having sex without their permission!!
Steve was justified in this scene, Johathan took pictures of them like a creep and Nancy wasn't even her girlfriend yet
Not Steve’s finest moment, but he’s still my favorite character
Yeah the guy who publicly slutshamed a girl, showed no concern for Barb being missing and called the family of a kid whose brother was missing and most likely dead, and whose mother was on the verge of collapse, a "fucking disgrace"? Sure, great guy...
Steve is literally the definition of character development, I hated him so much but now I like him so much
Steve was wrong, no doubt. And he could have handled the situation more better. But, I have to agree that it's really "creepy" to take pictures of your classmates, especially if you don't have their consent. And I know it wasn't Jonathan's intent to do so, and I know he really was "just trying to find his brother" but come on Jonathan!
He should know better not to get himself involved with Steves gang. Especially when he knows that they're all jerks and "they wouldn't understand."
Renee Bitch but. Jonathan beat Steve -_-
Ren CC and now everyone loves steve
Taking pictures without consent is illegal, and so is destroying someone else's property. They are both in the wrong.
I'm so fucking glad. Jonathan beated the mother fucking shit out of Steve. And stole his girlfriend!! Steve got what he deserved
@@melosivitch lol speak for yourself
Why people saying this scene that never existed? And it’s a mandela affect? I knew this scene existed lol
What would have happened if Argyle had been in this scene with Jonathan? What would have happened differently?
Was rewatching the show before starting season 4 and I just want to say that Steve was in the right here. Jonathan was being a total creep and deserved what he got. Not only did he take the photos, but he also developed them and was carrying them around! I think it’s disturbing how the show frames this scene as if Steve is being a bully, when in reality what he did was completely right.
First of all Jonathan didn't stalk anyone. He was just gathering proof and trying to find his brother. Of course, what he did was wrong. But it was never his intention to directly go taking pictures of others. He printed the pictures out and carried them around with him because he needed evidence not because of dirty reasons. It was definitely right to destroy the pictures but not the camera. That's already considered "Property damage" and he was clearly doing it because of bullying and not because of justice. I feel like most of you peole are too attracted to Steve that you're always trying to justify every single bad action of him. Steve had already bullied Jonathan before he even took the pictures, so what he did was totally wrong and there is no single excuse for this. If you support the season 1 Steve, you literally support a bully. And that's absolutely messed up, if you ask me...
I didn't like Steve in the beginning of the first season but upon seeing his true personality in season 2 and 3… How his stare seems blank and how he hurries to get away after dropping Jonathan's camera while the others laugh says a lot I believe
Takes photos of people, whilst hidden in trees.
Johnathan good guy.
Stops his friends from bullying him and is a victim of the stalking so he destroys the things he stalked with.
Steve bad guy.
I'm so glad we've seen such a positive arc for both Steve and Jonathan.
I like how Steves super power is that he becomes a slightly better person every time he gets beaten up
Having not watched season 1 since the first time and having forgotten the context of jonathan taking those pictures, i cant even be mad at steve for doing that.
The scene did happen lol he did take pics of Nancy undressing
Even Jonatham didn't argue that much because he knew deeply in his mind that what he did was twisted af
He took some fucking pictures. He was interested in capturing real moments and it was his only hobby. It wasn't "twisted", he just crossed a boundary he shouldn't have and said sorry afterwards. It's not like he was going to do anything with the pictures anyways. Also keep in mind this kid has a missing brother most likely dead and a mother on the verge of collapse.
I never hated Steve. I was like "okay, this guy is not my favorite" but I didnt hate him once. Jonatan didnt act well so is his fault too.
S1 : I wanted Steve to die
S2 : I would die for Steve
S3 : I want Steve to be my mom
I laughed when Jonathan beat him up
To be fair i don't blame Steve for breaking the camera, from the outside looking in what other conclusion can you draw?
You don't blame him because he's your favorite character
amanda kenya you cant assume that
Same
Are you fucking kidding me? This kid's brother is missing and most likely dead, his mother is on the verge of collapse, and you decide to publicly humiliate him and destroy his expensive camera and only hobby because of some slightly creepy, but totally harmless pictures? If you people condone this, I can only imagine what shit you're doing in real life...
@@numbo655 Totally harmless? If some guy had taken pictures of me through the window while I was undressing without my knowledge, I would be so upset. I'd feel violated, I'd feel ashamed and wonder if it was somehow my fault (even though it wasn't), I'd feel angry, I'd feel scared in case they decided to do it again...not exactly harmless. Imagine if it was your friend/partner who had pictures taken of them? Would you just brush it off and be fine with it?
This was deserved and I love Jonathan. Though I think the actual reason they had him at Steve's house from a story standpoint was so he could take the picture of the Demogorgon.
This was actually the best way to foreshadow Steve's character arc. He might have gone overboard by destroying the camera but ultimately he was being protective of Nancy from Jonathan (tbh, I don't know how anyone would want to be with someone who took photos of them like that without their consent), and this protectiveness would go on to be his defining trait throughout the show when he's with the kids. Also, did anyone else catch the look of brief regret on his face after he destroyed the camera? Hats off to Joe Keery and the Duffer Brothers (and the various writers/directors throughout the show) for making Steve's character development utterly believable and realistic.
if carol and tommy were in danger lol do you think Jonathan would save or wouldn't even care about them?
Love Steve’s character development
I think Steve was justified here. Jonathan was literally stalking them. He took a pic of Nancy in her bra. I don't understand how she was ok with that.
Personally, I think Steve's actions were justified in this scene.
Steve was always my favorite character ever since his first appearance and I loved him even more with his character development
As a photographer myself seeing a camera break literally made me die inside😭😭
In season 2, though, Steve is a much nicer guy. And why?
Before he broke up with Nancy in season 2, he was very responsible. Example: she was drinking too much alcohol, and he was begging her to stop.
He is much more helpful and social to people. Example: he saw toothless and they were hunting for the demogorgan monster dogs. On the trip, they talked a lot in nice ways to each other.
Steve saved Lucas, Maxine, Mike, and Toothless, when Billy(Another very strong highschooler), almost beat the shit out of Lucas. He put up a pretty good fight.
Steve was always treating Toothless as a brother. When they were going to the “Snow ball” in the last episode, Steve drove him, and gave him a lot of advice.
Steve went into the upside down(with all the kids, of course)to destroy the monster to save Will, because he was the monster, and the monster was the spy to send the Demogorgan monster dogs to them.
And that is why Steve is an awesome guy in Season 2. He was actually a main character in season 2
True..i like steve now.
Sorry guys. Toothless=Dustin, Btw
How is leaving her in a stranger’s house almost black out drunk and completely vulnerable responsible? Imagine what could have happened if Jonathan wasn’t there? Steve has done some unforgivable shit compared to Jonathan’s one mistake
@@4o8.sebastian and now in season 3, Him and Dustin have a much stronger bond
Why the fuck are you calling Dustin "toothless" though? That's what the bullies called him, and he clearly hates that nickname
Steve really changed, what a dude!
1:26 When you’re giving someone their phone back but you drop it
I cried when this happened, like no joke.
Damn after watching this video i just realized that Steve was a LOT different from season 1! Holy cow his attitude has changed a lot!
wait its already almost 6 years ago ? damn
Steve was a douche in Season 1 but this was totally justified. Taking those pictures was really creepy and I'm not sure I would have done anything different if I was Steve in this position. But anyhow I'm glad they both matured as the show progressed
DUDE!!! YOU ARE KIDDING ME?? While Jonathan, out of context, looked like a creep, there is a lot of douchey body language and mannerism used by Steve in this scene regardless. Dude lacked patience, didn't wait to let anyone explain it. Taking the camera, baiting Jonathan into taking it, and then dropping it like shit like a pathetic bully. If that would be your response, then that's VERY pathetic of you. You are either straight forward in your response or you ignore!! But you don't mess or play around like Steve did when he dropped the camera.
Steve has done way worse so idc
@@Izaan2810 *They* *were* both in the wrong you don’t take pictures of people without permission or *break* someone’s camera.
@@MiguelRodriguez-dk2ds AGAIN, Steve was a douche here. The way he handled things is how a purist form of bully would have done. Jonathan wasn't right (I NEVER said he was), but he wasn't mean spirited like Steve was in this season.
Jonathan never knew that Nancy will get naked. He clicked that pic and as soon as he realised what was happening, he stopped and went away from there.
He stopped when he saw Nancy kissed Steve
Is anyone else here to prove that the Jonathan did take the picture and it wasn’t a mandala effect?
Yesss! I am
This scene shows proof he took the pic
yeah they removed a lot of scenes to make it less weird ig
Its amazing how you can see he regreted smashing the camera straight away after amazing acting
throughout season 1, whenever steve did something bad or rude, it almost looks like he regrets it a few seconds after, like when he dropped the camera in his face it honestly looked like immediate regret
the character development
Cant believe they edited out the fact Jonathan took these pics. Bad move.
At first when I saw this scene I didn’t even notice that Jonathan took a photo of Nancy undressing, mainly because it was very hard to see and I thought he was only being confronted by Steve for spying. Though I watched a video about Steve’s character development and read the comments of this video, and now my perception of this scene has been altered.
What would have happened if Argyle had been in this scene with Jonathan? What would have happened differently?
“Let’s go the games about to start”-the beginning of the Steve we love. You can tell he felt bad after dropping the camera.
Justified.
I felt bad, but justified.
xblackbarbies, did you even know what happened throughout the season?
not justified. Two wrongs don't make a right. Steve even knew he was wrong and he was still like aight fuck you you're for sure gonna do this another 10 times.
Jonathan beated the crap out of Steve anyway. And he stole his girlfriend!! So Steve got what he fucking deseverd Karma's a bitch
@@Kenyagirly you must be really lonely and worthless😂🤣
Jonathan deserve better
"no, please, not the camera."
steve was perfectly within his rights to do this... but you guys are not ready for this conversation yet
And people call that bullying? You stalk people and then use your brother whose missing as an excuse? That’s messed up af.
What you need to remember is that camera was probably fairly expensive and Jonathan’s family isn’t the wealthiest people and I think Steve knew that so destroying the camera was most likely something that was very valuable and rare for him making it even worse to destroy
You always knew that hes a good guy, just acting cool, look at his face when he drop the camera, 1:31
never noticed that before, so well done.
He still mother fucking did what he did can't change that
@@Kenyagirly yeah it's wrong but that bad bitch jonathan creeps the fk out of em'
Yeah sure lets forgive people for whatever they as long as their face looks sad afterwards. You guys have some fucked up morals.
Crazy to see how much his character has changed through the seasons of the show
This was not the Steve we knew
steve was right tho
They edited these scenes out but claimed they didn’t…sus
Im sorry but Steve was really justified here, Jonathan may have been looking for will but he literally not even creepily watched Nancy change but also took pictures of her, so Steve was being protective and didnt even do the wrong thing.
This for me was the saddest scene. Just the helpless look on his face crushes my heart. :( Almost legit cried when I saw this.
tbh this is justified jonathan was a total creep that night i honestly dont know how nancy dated him after that i personally would’ve felt so creeped out lmfao
Yes those pictures were creepy, although the minute he dropped his camera you started to feel so bad, that just added to what was going on at the time for Johnathan.
And I gotta say, the fact that the Duffer Brothers made everyone hate Steve then all of a sudden in a season he’s everybody’s favourite character is insane.
Props the the Duffer Brothers, very underrated.
Why are people trying to make Steve the villain in this scene. I have not watched the series and only have his perspective on what happened. Someone was stalking another student and he punished him for it. If someone was taking pictures of your sister naked without her knowledge would you just let him off?