Tesla Model 3: Airlift Performance 3H with AirDemand Bags quick install guide
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This is definitely not my best effort in making a video, but its a informational video so please forgive the poor quality. Many hours into the installation/calibration to provide you a summary of what I've learn and figured out based on my own install and research. 5 hours into editing to put together the shortest yet with the most information possible video without boring you guys but still hopefully nobody gets frustrated hearing me talk.
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Your Model 3 is incredible! I really love everything that you have done! You have a great eye for design and you have incredible taste! I didn’t think that there was any mumbling, so your editing was flawless.
Mitchell Barnow thanks a lot Mitchell, really appreciate it. Means a lot to me, it’s a lot of hard work in both on the car and making the video!
@@TeslaDIY You are very welcome!
That Duracell sticker rocked ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
Great video! A lot of very useful information for people looking to switch to air suspension. Great job and thank you! 😉
Hello friend~ and thank you!
Thank you so much for this. Maybe I missed it, what material did you use for the base, Lexan?
You do quality work!!!
ChimChimIsDead thanks for your support as always haha
Wow, just wow!!
that battery is over 9000!
Dude!! Finally had a chance to watch this. What a great video. I'm so jealous now! What I want to know is how the heck you made it into your garage without the air suspension!
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Where did you create and print the air tank wrap graphic? What type of paper did you use and is it matte or gloss?
thanks for the detailed install. can you elaborate more on how you mounted the tank/compressor. is it on the alumlite sheet or directly to the stock bucket? also how do you access the bolt holes, it looks like its right below the tank
I ended up using 1/2” MDF board, some long bolts and nuts, or use those threaded insert for wood. And a 3D printed leveler to level out the slope in the front of the tub. You can find the file on Thingiverse
Hey, great build ! Absolutly love it. Thank you for sharing this detailed video. I had read multiple threads about AirDemand air bags leak or something else going wrong with it. Would you mind sharing how are your air struts holding up so far ?
Sorry, I missed this comment.
I’ve never had any issues so far, been bagged on airdemand for over 1.5 years now, I’ve actually heard more bags leaking issue for UAS bags, but now that I have both bags, they’re both good in their own way, UAS is definitely conform and has even more range in terms of how high it can go, and their after sales service would be better than air demand. Airdemand rides fine, a bit sportier, cheaper in price but harder to get a hold of after sales
Great video! Been watching it over and over as I prepare to do my own install. I have a couple questions about the wiring, hoping you can help. Did you add inline fuses to the main harness and compressor going to the battery and what size fuse did you use, if so?
Thanks
Hello John! Thanks! I did, just the online fuse holder and the fuse provided by airlift, I just followed their diagram
Awesome DIY project! How has the airlift suspension been holding up and performing? Have you had to make any tweaks or repairs to the system or is it a set-it-and-forget-it type of consistency in the height measurements around all 4 corners?
Thanks! It’s been over a year now and have not had a single issue, pretty much set it and forget it as everything still function the same as the day after it was installed
Great video, was wondering what was the measurement setting on your struts to set proper ride height? What was the distance you used between the adjustment collars for front and rears? I order my kit and will be installing so looking to get a baseline as I like your settings.
Hello and Thank you! I don't have the measurement, but i pretty much maxed out the length and left about 1" of threads in the sleeve for safety measure. I remember all 4 struts were not equal in length however, lets say i had all four struts with 1" left in the housing. the car would sit uneven on each corner when they're all at the same pressure. so then you would take notes of which corner is higher/lower and adjust the strut length accordingly...tedious process..height sensor is another fun calibration
@@TeslaDIY Thanks for the reply, ok ill give it a try and do some trial and error. Your video helps alot thanks for doing it.
@@stvpket thanks again my friend! I’m not here to tell people what the latest tesla updates are, but I’m here to share my mod experience and How Tos! 😉
Any chance you know the length of the level sensor rods I’m having a real hard time getting time within the range. Same set up same bags
Kels, I actually don't know, i started off with measure the length and all and like you're saying, i had a hard time getting it within range too so i just started compressing the suspension assembly with a floor jack and use the app the monitor the travel range and make adjustment as needed.
What a great video! where can you buy the air struts from?
Amen Panesar hello and thanks! You can reach out to Autornd and they should have everything you need
1st - GREAT VIDEO! I always wondered and I'm still contemplating doing this to my P3D. You gave me more confidence to get this done one day. You might have a similar twin one day in OC. White on white P3D with Zero-G referral wheels. I'm also getting a body kit from Unplugged Performance (front bumper, unfinished CF side skirts, unfinished CF rear bumper).
If looking from the front of the car, I noticed that in some of the videos your manifold and compressors are below the tank (in front) and in others they are above it (behind it). Was there a mistake made earlier and you ended up changing it to manifold at the highest point (compressors behind the tank and manifold behind/above)?
Kenneth Jones haha thanks! Yeah if I knew exactly what needs to be done like I’ve shown in my own video, I think I could have had it done much quicker! What you saw in some clips where the manifold sits flat on the platform was how I had it the first 2 weeks. After I got everything dialed in, I re did the platform with MDF board and decided to change the layout because all the hoses through the middle of the tub wasn’t working well. There’s no room for wires and hoses to clearly route through behind it.
@@TeslaDIY Thanks for the response. That's really good info to know.
I wish someone would pick up where AccuAir left off and make something like the ENDO-CT 5 gallon air tank again. I have seen this on CJ's Casper ride ( www.casperm3.com ) and it looks so clean and muffles the sound quite a bit for the compressors. It's sad that AccuAir went out of business.
Another great video bro 👍🏾
Thanks buddy
@@TeslaDIY if you don't mind what body kit is that? Looks dope ..
its full MaierEV kit, they are more known for being a Mustang business but in 2018 they decided to make front and rear spoilers and they worked with me to create the side skirt and carbon fiber trunk@@Rugged_again
@@TeslaDIY 👌🏾👌🏾
what year is your model 3? And what size tank are you running?
How is the ride compared to your spring setup? Love your channel man
nevergone the ride is noticeably better than when I was on lowering springs. I just did a 1000+ miles road trip from sf Bay Area to San Diego and the ride was very comfort and smooth. For example, I used to get a scary loft on the freeway thru bumps going from a high spot to a low spot, or a nasty bump bottoming out on bumps going from low to high, no issue with the bagged setup, and it’s still 16 ways dampening adjustable AND ride comfort can also be “tuned” by increasing or decreasing bags pressure (but will have to adjust strut housing to extend or shorten strut length to compensate)
And thanks for watching my videos, I appreciate the support and glad you enjoy the contents!
can you do a video showing how you connected the ignition wire or at least how you did it. I havent found a video showing this step.
I sort of did at the end of the video, and i showed screenshot of all the posting i found inorder for me to figure out how to connect them
@@TeslaDIY it’s kind of hard by looking at this pictures what they are. I’m not a super handy person but I am very visual learner I just wish I can find a video showing exactly how people are connecting the wires. But your video was really helpful for the rest.
@@jt_mStesla it is a tight space up under the dash, a white connector with a open slot for a 4mm spade, and thats where you get the ignition 12v, connect that to a solid state relay as shown in the diagram i had on the screenshot. or you can look that up on TMC (the forum). then the on/off 12v wire i wired mine to the brown wire under the rear a/c vent, basically it is the center console led light wires, so when doors are closed, the entire air lift system shuts off
hi ! why did you used a relay ? why didnt you plugged in on a 12v non-permanent (near the passenger seat). So when your car is sleeping, no risk to have an empty 12v battery ?!
I did use a solid state relay, my ignition wire is to VC Left but my on/off wire is tap into the center console light connection (brown wire under rear A/C vent, my entire airlift system shuts off when all doors are closed
Where did you wire your power? Directly to the 12v?
Watch my other video on bagging my model Y, I explained the wiring in details
How many inches can u go off the ground?
Does this improves the ride quality, ex: when going over bumps?
Definitely rides better than stock and some performance coilovers, since "bagged" suspension also has adjustable dampening like coilovers, but instead of the springs (which has a fixed spring rate) we run on air bags, which can be adjusted in pressure (affects ride height and comfort level, less pressure, softer, more pressure, stiffer), you can also adjust the strut bottom sleeve to compensate the ride height to get the best ride air pressure you want in your bags
Will this air tank fit in the new Model 3’s with their smaller frunk? I don’t have one of those or I would measure it for you.
Mitchell Barnow I don’t know either, haven’t seen an updated frunk in person, but you can always get a smaller tank, they come in all sizes, some people run 2 smaller tanks.
@@TeslaDIY That makes perfect sense!
Do you have an advice which line to use 1/4 or 3/8 with 3H hight sensors?
i think most are using 1/4, 3/8 drops really fast and aggressive, altho i think UAS wants you to run 3/8, but i do have 1/4 on my Model Y with UAS and it works just fine, i do have flow restrictors just to balance out the front and back since the front seems to want to drop first which tilts the car in a way the front spoiler gets a bit too low and scrape the ground
Hey thanks for the video !
That build looks dope !
What kit did you buy exactly ?
I am thinking of putting airlift suspensions on my Model 3 as well but with the Air Tank in the trunk 🙌🏻
How are the suspensions ? Smoother than the stocks ones ?
What about the height, is the car higher than stock with those suspensions ?
Hahe a nice day bro ! 👊🏻
Thanks buddy,
On my model 3, I am running the air demand bags with airlift 3H, order from airdemand/airforce directly, via Instagram, it seems sketchy but that’s how everyone order from them, airlift I order from Zevcentric, Rishie is who to talk to.
For comfort, you probably want to go with UAS bags, which I have on my Model Y, it raises up higher and rides more comfortably.
My air demand bags are sporty, I actually like it that way, I don’t need it to be comfy.
I would say either way it’s better than factory, but everyone has difference need and opinions.
UAS can go 1-2” higher than stock, airdemand seems to bring my front a bit higher than stock, but rear is about as high if not slightly lower than stock
@@TeslaDIY Thanks for the precise answer !
As long as the airlift ones are better than the stock ones it is fine for me.
I will have a look on those bags !
Please send the link for the air demand suspension. I can’t find it
They don’t have a website ( I know it may sound sketchy, but many, including myself is how I order it) you gotta message them on Instagram and they will send you a PayPal invoice from Airforce suspension (the parent company). Or you can try ordering thru places like MTM from Justin, or you skip the air demand and get the UAS like I did for my Model Y (see latest video) you can get them shipped to you within a week from Zevcentric/AutoRnD, they stock them here in the Bay Area, look for Rishie, tell them to hook you up with the PK deal
Can you adjust height while car is moving?
Yes, anytime
How much weight does this add?
The tank, the compressors, manifold and platform…20lbs?
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Fobgarage thanks bro
You said you had coil-overs too? Are you happier with air? I am looking into air for mine and wanted to get some different opinions
Hello, I didn't have a very good set of coilovers, it was a custom setup and was bottoming out often. However, compare to springs, springs were bouncy and "lofty" and scary at high speed bumps. Coilovers would be firm and bumpy, good for performance altho you can probably get a set and dial it in to have a comfort ride as well.
Air is just overall comfort and practical, you'll never have to worry about riding low (for looks), yet it rides very nicely and comfort, some even track with bags (look up OMG Tesla on IG)
@@TeslaDIY appreciate the reply! I just found your videos this morning and I’ve been watching several. New subscriber for sure
@@Kazz52321 Haha awesome! Thanks for watching these videos and please excuse my boring monotone slow speaking =D
Any other good brands for struts? Any brands to avoid?
Kyle assuming you’re referring to the air bag struts since there isn’t aftermarket struts except for the new autocross setup from unplugged performance.
Universal Air (UAS) is known to be good, local in SoCal, better design and easier to reach for service. $2400+ pricier than other options.
AirDemand, what I have, ~$1800 a lot more people use them these days since they are cheaper and a lot of users are switching from the next brand that I’m going to mention. Service is slow for some, so far I’m pleased with their service and response time.
Airtekk, stay away, ~$1600 bad design since the rear bags are intergraded, so avoid this brand.
Airlift performance MAYBE coming out with their own struts, have to wait for them to announce if anything.
@@TeslaDIY Sounds great, thanks for the quick reply
Is it better in corners compared to stock suspension?
compare to oem shocks and spring, absolutely better, but i can't say i am a performance kind of guy, i do enjoy taking hard corners and stuff though, and its nice a firm for my type of use
@TeslaDIY Thanks for the info!
How is the ride quality?
Justin McMullen I don’t recall what stock ride was like altho I’ve been told by other airdemand users and universal air users that their ride quality is better than stock. But I can compare to my unplugged performance low spring setup and it’s definitely a better ride, especially at higher speed, I used to feel the loft or bounce when I go from a low to high spot. Recently did a 5 hour drive with this setup and it was very easy and there are 16 (I think it’s 16) ways dampening to adjust, as well as the bags pressure can dictate the ride quality (and height, so you would have to adjust your strut length to compensate) as well
Do you sell your previous lowering coils?
offroadfreak8582 no I just returned them back to my sponsor who fabricated them, they are going to send them back to Integra Racing Suspension to get the upper mount made, I think their plan is to sell them as a kit eventually. But they still have to work on the fronts since they never got around doing R&D work with my car for the fronts
@@TeslaDIY ok thanks. Great car you have 💪🏻
@@offroadfreak8582 Thanks my friend, definitely a bit wild as some may not like it (especially the skibox) but I am extremely thankful to have what I have, to think back a year ago, I only wish I could have new wheels..
How long did it take you to receive the struts, they told me 3 weeks until they ready and I been trying to reach them thru there Instagram but they always active viewing my stories but can’t replie and give me a update smh.
I ordered mine back in July 2020 so it was during early pandemic if that matters.. it took around 3 weeks and I am in the northern california
@@TeslaDIY they told me it was made to order, told me it took 3 weeks to make and tommrow is the 3rd week. Hopefully shipping don’t take to long
@@stexen10 They did show me video of the factory assembling my top hat and stuff, so they're probably right about made to order, this is one of the down side from getting the AirDemand as opposed to UAS which is local (socal), initial shipping, after sale service/maintenance is going to be far worst compare to UAS, but UAS is 600+ more expensive
@@TeslaDIY how long does shipping usually take ? I’m for cali, I appreciate the replies tho 🤙🏻
Where did you get the duracel wrap or decal??
Nevermind, i see that you made it. WOW, wish i was that crafty lol
Made it from scratch, from illustrator to cutting the vinyl to applying it on the tank
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@@TeslaDIY That's awesome, you should think about selling these.
@@phinguyening7610 thanks I appreciate that, however there are a lot of things I make that’s worth selling, some I do sell like the cup holder shifters (see my other video ) but even that I had just decided to stop selling just because it takes too much time out of my day when order comes in.. something’s are better to stay as a hobby or just for fun 🙏🏻
How long did those guys at air demand take to ship. I've been texting them and they have some garbage ass customer service. Takes at least days or a week to get a reply back about my package tracking. Currently been waiting 5 weeks and was told it would take 3-4 weeks to arrive.
i ordered mine before all the pandemic drama, got mine just within a month. I have heard several guys who had issue reaching them after they took your money, DM me, on IG, i can try to help you get a hold of them and then i can DM you a screenshot of what he says or maybe a tracking number like i did with another guy i helped just 2 weeks ago
how much does everything cost (your setup), air struts, air lift parts, tank, etc. i would like to install them myself, how does it ride? is it bouncey? handling? any drawbacks? any info would be greatly appreciated, thank you
i just saw the description, ill send you a dm
Whoauuuuuuu :-)
Too bad they don’t make Enloop wraps for the tanks. Opposed to Duracell
nevergone I’ve seen someone with eneloop battery tank, I could have done that and I would appreciate it as well since as a photographer, I use those batteries too. But I thought the Duracell screams louder, there’s no doubt it being a battery look a like, while some may wonder what the white eneloop tank with blue lettering is
👋 hi PK!
Yooooooooo, wait who’s this? Lol
@@TeslaDIY kseries on IG
how much for parts and labor? willing to travel to you
Hello, parts are about $3700 including miscellaneous stuff like MDF board and extra PTC fittings. I don't want to do install for other cars since I am not a professional, and I don't want to be responsible in case anything goes wrong.
@@TeslaDIY May I ask where did u purchase the parts? Air lift and the warp film?
@@MrKennethho8181977 airlift 3H from AutoRnD, you can dm them on IG and talk to Rishie.
The wrap was just from amazon, they were just plain vinyl and I CADed up the design and plot it out with my vinyl plotter
I’ll pay you to install air suspension on my 3!!! 😭
Hit up its_mkiii on ig for install
Man you did BIG job in here installing all parts...........If I drop my car at your place for 4 days can you please do it all ??? IF I will pay you cash $800bux for the labor and installation can you do it on my P3D 2020 I'll pay for all parts and orders ..
Haha hit up @its_mkiii , he can give you a quote.
I don’t do install for people
@@TeslaDIY can you send me his full email please:)
@@p3dtesla118 dont have his email, hit him up on instagram @ Its_mkiii
how's the handling of the car? When you turning and is the ride bouncy or stiff?
It all depends on how you setup your strut length (this affects bags pressure, longer strut length, less PSI you need to run to reach ideal set ride height), Dampening setting for your rebound. Bags are basically a coilover except you loose the coil and replace it with the bags, you still get your height adjustment on the strut housing, dampening, but a coil springs are set at its spring rate, but the bag pressure can be adjusted, higher pressure will ride stiffer/bouncier, lower pressure will still be firm but rides smoothly
@@TeslaDIY hey there again :D what's your ride hide preset? I just got my rear airlift bags that i replaced. I forgot what was my previous ride height so now I have reset it up. And the old bags were different company.
@@badboytilltheend13 hello, are you talking about ride pressure? and which bags do you have now? on my Air Demand bags, i am at around 100psi, be all depends on your overall length of the rear struts and also how low do you want to ride